No Game No Life (light novel)
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greatlaharl said: Ajunky said: greatlaharl said: Your first screenshot is confusing, it makes it look like the black queen was the last to move.Ajunky said: greatlaharl said: Ah wait, was Shiro playing white?Okay,since you didn't pay attention to this part of the episode, I'll just have to show you: http://i.imgur.com/WZSLNr1.jpg Could she move the White Knight if she was playing Black? I thought that you all watch this already ? o_o nice catch..! Shiro was already check-mated before she even moved the knight, so she should have lost. probably an oversight / a fail on Madhouse's part. hopefully they'll fix it in the blu-ray. |
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Ajunky said: DreamingBeats said: I'm not sure she was supposed to win anyway, and though I can't say for sure, I don't think anyone said she won that game (sorry if I'm mistaken).nice catch..! Shiro was already check-mated before she even moved the knight, so she should have lost. probably an oversight / a fail on Madhouse's part. hopefully they'll fix it in the blu-ray. She is not Blank by herself so it's no problem if she loses, and the wager was her false memories, but she didn't have any, so her winning or losing that game was not relevant, instead her change in attitude was. Though it is a nice catch indeed. Even if the poster is a smartass pratt. edit: ah wait, false memories, and not just memories about Sora? if she just bet false memories, then never mind, though Shiro should have still lost |
DreamingBeatsJun 5, 2014 10:20 AM
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| What a nice display of trust between the two siblings. Also, Zell is aboard now since she knows Sora's memory. I'm looking forward to see what Sora is gonna do with his pawns, especially the elf pawn. |
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Akanezora said: What a nice display of trust between the two siblings. Also, Zell is aboard now since she knows Sora's memory. I'm looking forward to see what Sora is gonna do with his pawns, especially the elf pawn. he pretty much already won the game with the elf on his side. iirc warbeasts can't use magic, so kuuhaku have a big advantage over them. |
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skudoops said: Shiro is a terrible character and her voice is super annoying. I guess that's to be expected, looking at the VA's characters from the shows I've seen she's done. Inori from GC, Hana from Captain Earth, Pino from Valvrave, Saaya from Gargantia and Mayaka from Hyouka.. essentially she does quite a few stupid and annoying characters. Ai Kayano is really popular and gets a lot of roles like Maaya Uchida nowadays but I have yet to become a fan. Just have yet to come across a role she's played that I particularly cared for or felt she really added to the performance which is pretty remarkable when you consider the amount of stuff she's been in. Heck even Uchida had Hiyori from Noragami so she's sort of on her way but Kayano......maybe Millia from the Last Exile sequel? Not a great show by any stretch but she was probably the best character in it and she did well enough with the role. Anyway personally I'm not a huge fan of how either character is played. Sora's VA plays him in this over the top smug fashion that I think is trying to make him sound cool but doesn't really fit with how even he tends to describe himself as and Shiro's breathy high pitched voice is honestly just kind of creepy and unsettling rather than endearing in any way. It's funny cause I have like no particularly major problems with any of the other characters or their seiyuu besides the two mains. Steph/Yoko Hikasa in particular has saved more than a few scenes that would have probably bombed if just left up to interactions between the NEET siblings. zerriet said: absolutely agree with your viewpoint, imho ollythirteen and Kaioshin_Sama need to understand that different characters need to be understood through different perspectives and an open mind. The Blank duo have technically lost the most important game initially and that was their lives because being shunned by society for being superior in an aspect is no small matter. The premise of them being transported to another world indicates that they were given another chance to do what they love without society despising them. The nature of cool is not so much to do with winning games since to them, everything is at stake. It is more to do with like how a previous user quoted, their confident personality. It is trying to emphasise the value of trust and indicate that together they will overcome all odds but apart, they breakdown in defeat. This was further emphasised in the chess game. Watch this with a more open mind and realise that their bond is anything but superficial or fake. I get what they're going for, it just rings kind of hollow for me. I accept that they were apparently shunned by society for being geniuses (this gives a bit of a Gary/Mary Stu to the characters since their weaknesses and emotional baggage are actually just further strengths) but it just sort of rings emotionally hollow to me. Maybe if they were given more back story earlier or it was fleshed out more than just a couple of short monologues and we see whatever emotional turmoil it is they go through it'd help their characters more, but we're basically just told these things in very short monologues in the past couple of episodes and that's it. Maybe that's a reflection of the 12 episode format that barely allows most anime to tell a story anymore, but it's just all very half-baked, much like the rest of the show and kind of cheap emotional turmoil to give the characters some further motivation. Still better than nothing at all I guess, but it doesn't make their bond feel all that much less superficial to me since it's about the absolute least I could have asked for in terms of character development. ollythirteen said: Still @ Mirailianil, left some stuff out regarding our main characters. Sora and Shiro haven't been humanized yet in a flashback. We haven't seen that they were judged by society only that Sora was a faker and people pleaser, Shiro a genius and the genius realized that the faker was faking and told him so and pow! sparks flew (very weak way to form a bond in my opinion, especially one that is touted as incredibly strong and deep as theirs). But even if it eventually comes (their humanization) the damage has already been done for some (myself included). We've seen Sora taunt others, mock them, insult their fathers (he apologized because "plot") and just be a condescending, arrogant dick in general, act or otherwise. This is someone you say I should sympathize with because society judged him? If that's the case then he's nothing more than a downtrodden person who has found themselves in a position of power and has completely forgotten what it's like to be downtrodden. That's his "rebirth"? Meh. Also the contradictions in Sora's character is just too much. On Earth he was a social outcast. Suddenly he's in a new world and takes risky gambles such as gambling with his existence and so on? It just isn't a realistic progression, his love for games and confidence in his ability otherwise. Same goes for the way he's used his intelligence to become king, start wars, get people on his side and so on. It just isn't realistic since they've pushed the whole "rebirth" angle. Remember how I said realism applies to characters but you can go wild with plot situations and objects? Sora's personality just does not follow. It isn't logical or "human" i.e. a social introvert suddenly being so extroverted because "I good at games, this game world, me go wild". Even if the decision was conscious (their "rebirth") old habits die hard. I've said too much for someone who's dropped the bloody show. I'm done now. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! Pretty much exactly this is how I see the two MC's. And yeah Sora's character feels like a mess of contradictions for sure. It's like they are trying to make him seem like just the absolute coolest and the ultimate wish fulfillment self insert representative of what NEET's wish they were but at the same time pitiable and angry at the world that they can't understand his and Shiro's pain. It just doesn't really work at all and there's no healthy medium for the character, his whole personality just makes so little sense unless he's bipolar or something. Also is it me or are the interactions in this thread infinitely more tolerable and pleasant whenever Takuan_Soho isn't around. I see a lot of decent discussion in the last couple of pages or so and while not everybody is agreeing there's very little petty fighting. |
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Ajunky said: Still, I don't see the problem with Shiro losing this game (she is not Blank by herself). Ajunky said: She is not Blank by herself so it's no problem if she loses, and the wager was her false memories, but she didn't have any, so her winning or losing that game was not relevant, instead her change in attitude was. DreamingBeats said: edit: ah wait, false memories, and not just memories about Sora? if she just bet false memories, then never mind, though Shiro should have still lost Although is a minor change, I'll blame the adaptation for the part of misleading you. In the novel what was bet on was not the "false memories" but instead the memories of the so called "Sora". So the story should be like this (believe me this is a very, very short summary, so I'll leave a lot of information behind....): * Jibril tries to play a game to seal Shiro's memories of Sora (the story was was a little different of what the anime showed), since it was too painful for Shiro. With the race piece challenge coming up, they needed Shiro in a acceptable condition to play. * Shiro wasn't able to throw away the game due to her memories. During the game against Jibril she remembered all the promises they made together, and the two most important promises were: "They will always be together, so one is never alone!" and "[ ] can't lose!" * Seeing how Shiro can't allow herself to lose the game on purpose in order to seal the memories of this "Sora" character, Steph makes a remark about the possibility of all that is happening is a strategy. If this so called brother really existed and they were invincible together, then this could be some kind of strategy in order to win some game. * Shiro regains some composure after hearing this remark, while Jibril on the other side feels bad for doubting her master to who she is devoted ("If her master said that crows were white, then dyeing the three thousand crows in this world white was her duty.") * At this point the wheels start to move... Steph will stay with Shiro in the castle while they try to figure it out what's happening, while Jibril went to the other races to confirm the existence of Sora, and the possibility of Imanity memories being changed due to a game. (Remember they already knew that the Eastern Federation erases the memories of the players) * Having confirmed that Sora did existed and that the game with Eastern Federation was still to be scheduled, Shiro starts figuring out what was going on with the clues Sora left behind: The information that the game with Eastern Federation was still to be held, the need for allies, the races that could and would want to intervene with Imanity or Eastern Federation at this point, who among all races had the ability to change memories, the need for one last piece before the game with the Eastern Federation, the fact that she woke up on Stephs room (Kings room) instead her own room, how magic must be involved in order to create this situation and so on... Basically, the discovery process was not as linear as the anime showed... In fact there was a lot of lost information like Shiro's past, the struggle Sora had with himself, the teasing during the game from Kurami, and so on... Hope I was able to shed some light over your misunderstanding. :-D greenmush said: I was hoping for more logic but oh well, why the hell does Shiro get to go 3 turns in a row though. god dammit Again the adaptation... Shiro didn't get 3 plays in a row... if you are talking about the Reversi game, there was even a rule stating that no one could skip a turn, which was why Kurami had to wait for Shiro to make the first move after Sora disappeared... The fact is that Shiro only made one move by instinct and calculated risk, not knowing for sure where the board was, but figuring out by the spot where magic was detected and Sora's habits (always staying in the shade, keeping a small spot for Shiro since she doesn't like open spaces and so on). With the first move she, Jibril and Steph recovered their memory, and the board (and only the board) appeared. Then the black piece hesitantly made a move by itself (since Kurami was still invisible). This follow up for one more turn and only when Shiro made the third and final move and won the game did Fii, Kurami and Sora reappeared. Edit: added new answer Edit 2: correcting my own english... I really need to go back to school >_< |
DarkMoonWolfJun 5, 2014 10:49 AM
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mirailianil said: Kaioshin_Sama said: skudoops said: Shiro is a terrible character and her voice is super annoying. I guess that's to be expected, looking at the VA's characters from the shows I've seen she's done. Inori from GC, Hana from Captain Earth, Pino from Valvrave, Saaya from Gargantia and Mayaka from Hyouka.. essentially she does quite a few stupid and annoying characters. Ai Kayano is really popular and gets a lot of roles like Maaya Uchida nowadays but I have yet to become a fan. Just have yet to come across a role she's played that I particularly cared for or felt she really added to the performance which is pretty remarkable when you consider the amount of stuff she's been in. Heck even Uchida had Hiyori from Noragami so she's sort of on her way but Kayano......maybe Millia from the Last Exile sequel? Not a great show by any stretch but she was probably the best character in it and she did well enough with the role. Anyway personally I'm not a huge fan of how either character is played. Sora's VA plays him in this over the top smug fashion that I think is trying to make him sound cool but doesn't really fit with how even he tends to describe himself as and Shiro's breathy high pitched voice is honestly just kind of creepy and unsettling rather than endearing in any way. It's funny cause I have like no particularly major problems with any of the other characters or their seiyuu besides the two mains. Steph/Yoko Hikasa in particular has saved more than a few scenes that would have probably bombed if just left up to interactions between the NEET siblings. zerriet said: absolutely agree with your viewpoint, imho ollythirteen and Kaioshin_Sama need to understand that different characters need to be understood through different perspectives and an open mind. The Blank duo have technically lost the most important game initially and that was their lives because being shunned by society for being superior in an aspect is no small matter. The premise of them being transported to another world indicates that they were given another chance to do what they love without society despising them. The nature of cool is not so much to do with winning games since to them, everything is at stake. It is more to do with like how a previous user quoted, their confident personality. It is trying to emphasise the value of trust and indicate that together they will overcome all odds but apart, they breakdown in defeat. This was further emphasised in the chess game. Watch this with a more open mind and realise that their bond is anything but superficial or fake. I get what they're going for, it just rings kind of hollow for me. I accept that they were apparently shunned by society for being geniuses (this gives a bit of a Gary/Mary Stu to the characters since their weaknesses and emotional baggage are actually just further strengths) but it just sort of rings emotionally hollow to me. Maybe if they were given more back story earlier or it was fleshed out more than just a couple of short monologues and we see whatever emotional turmoil it is they go through it'd help their characters more, but we're basically just told these things in very short monologues in the past couple of episodes and that's it. Maybe that's a reflection of the 12 episode format that barely allows most anime to tell a story anymore, but it's just all very half-baked, much like the rest of the show and kind of cheap emotional turmoil to give the characters some further motivation. Still better than nothing at all I guess, but it doesn't make their bond feel all that much less superficial to me since it's about the absolute least I could have asked for in terms of character development. ollythirteen said: Still @ Mirailianil, left some stuff out regarding our main characters. Sora and Shiro haven't been humanized yet in a flashback. We haven't seen that they were judged by society only that Sora was a faker and people pleaser, Shiro a genius and the genius realized that the faker was faking and told him so and pow! sparks flew (very weak way to form a bond in my opinion, especially one that is touted as incredibly strong and deep as theirs). But even if it eventually comes (their humanization) the damage has already been done for some (myself included). We've seen Sora taunt others, mock them, insult their fathers (he apologized because "plot") and just be a condescending, arrogant dick in general, act or otherwise. This is someone you say I should sympathize with because society judged him? If that's the case then he's nothing more than a downtrodden person who has found themselves in a position of power and has completely forgotten what it's like to be downtrodden. That's his "rebirth"? Meh. Also the contradictions in Sora's character is just too much. On Earth he was a social outcast. Suddenly he's in a new world and takes risky gambles such as gambling with his existence and so on? It just isn't a realistic progression, his love for games and confidence in his ability otherwise. Same goes for the way he's used his intelligence to become king, start wars, get people on his side and so on. It just isn't realistic since they've pushed the whole "rebirth" angle. Remember how I said realism applies to characters but you can go wild with plot situations and objects? Sora's personality just does not follow. It isn't logical or "human" i.e. a social introvert suddenly being so extroverted because "I good at games, this game world, me go wild". Even if the decision was conscious (their "rebirth") old habits die hard. I've said too much for someone who's dropped the bloody show. I'm done now. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP! Pretty much exactly this is how I see the two MC's. And yeah Sora's character feels like a mess of contradictions for sure. It's like they are trying to make him seem like just the absolute coolest and the ultimate wish fulfillment self insert representative of what NEET's wish they were but at the same time pitiable and angry at the world that they can't understand his and Shiro's pain. It just doesn't really work at all and there's no healthy medium for the character, his whole personality just makes so little sense unless he's bipolar or something. Also is it me or are the interactions in this thread infinitely more tolerable and pleasant whenever Takuan_Soho isn't around. I see a lot of decent discussion in the last couple of pages or so and while not everybody is agreeing there's very little petty fighting. You certainly have a peculiar way of being polite Kaioshin_sama, to ignore my post twice, when I talk to you. I cannot remember being rude or insulting in either of my post... Is my post too dumb for you to understand that you simply ignore them? Setting those aside, it is pretty clear to me that you hate this show because its popularity, not because of the "flaws". That is a really petty thing to do. From the producer to voice actors, and every time someone point the "flaws" you quickly back them up and sometimes subtlely try to diss the show. Apologies in advance if you found any of my post(especially this one) offending to you, but everyone has patience, and mine has not so much left P.S. I already post my thought on ollythirteen's post earlier, read it if you care P.S.S I thought you said you want to drop this show at episode 7. Why are you still here then in episode 9 discussion After years of forum experience I no longer feel the need to multiquote and spend x amount of time on every single persons post. Sorry if you feel offended by it, but it's really not intentional and I'm not trying to ignore you. As for why I tend to support people that criticize the show in ways that I can relate too, I'll just say that it's nice one in a while to see somebody that feels the same way you do and I like to make some attempts to have further discussions with them. Beats just having people tell you what a hater you are and how you're a terrible excuse for a human being all the time for not holding the majority opinion. *shrug* I'll also just say this, when you have to guess at what motivates a character like Sora and what they are thinking when they go to take certain actions or do things that seem to contradict other things they do or say that's not particularly strong character development. To me it just feels like this show is trying to combine rule of cool tropes with the two MC's that don't necessarily fit all that well together. It's a very VERY otaku culture oriented show and that can tend to be a bit of a double edged sword when it comes to things like character development and basic logic. Example, the episode is so focused on Shiro's whole sob story about Nii Nii and woe is the poor downtrodden genius NEET that they forget to pay attention to the positioning of her chess pieces thus shooting the whole idea of a genius NEET in the foot. If she's such a genius why can't she recognize that she has to make a basic legal chess move that even a novice would know about and why if Jibril is also supposed to be a mega genius in her own right why isn't she able to correct her on it and say that she's in check and has to make the move to eliminate the check situation before she can consider mating her. As someone who mainly came into this show in the hopes of seeing some clever game mechanic twists and the show essentially selling itself on that front in the early episodes it's been extremely disappointing on that front and this latest flub is just kind of the nail in the coffin as far as that aspect of the show goes. The best it ever did on this front was probably episode 6. It was far from perfect and more than a little silly but at least there weren't any blatant rule violations so much as plot armor being involved. Anyway all of this isn't a specific problem with NGNL so much as LN writing in general in which NGNL is really just par for the course. If there's one thing that ought to probably be abandoned reasonably soon it's this whole super genius savant misunderstood character thing that is pretty much never convincing in the slightest. It pretty much just always ends up in a mess of contradictions and completely blowing up any attempt I make at trying to apply suspension of disbelief to the premise. |
PeacingOutJun 5, 2014 11:37 AM
Caleb8980 said: DreamingBeats said: Akanezora said: What a nice display of trust between the two siblings. Also, Zell is aboard now since she knows Sora's memory. I'm looking forward to see what Sora is gonna do with his pawns, especially the elf pawn. he pretty much already won the game with the elf on his side. iirc warbeasts can't use magic, so kuuhaku have a big advantage over them. Sora said last episode that they will only play with these four players that were present in the diplomacy ;-) Sora could still use the elf secretly (just like how Kurami used the elf in the "chess" match) he's clever enough to use the elf w/o being found out |
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Caleb8980 said: Kaioshin_Sama said: snip Before this gets out of hand, pls stop with the quote towers XD Well you know my stance on the matter concerning how I see Sora's and Shiro's characters so I won't argue with you here but one thing: These contradictions are what makes the dents in his perfect/gary stu picture: he is strong yet weak; he acts all the time as if he had great confidence but in reality he doesn't have it, that even showed itself in the end of this episode where he for once showed his real feelings instead of that smug smile all the time. It's still bad NisioIsin tier character writing to me (the weakness is strength thing), but that's a whole other can of worms. Personally I'm not seeing it this way myself so much as people just seem to be trying to fill in the blanks in the writing for themselves in whatever way is most convenient. That's another problem I have with a lot of LN writing, the laziness of the author in ever really committing to anything and basically give the reader just enough insight into characters in order to let them take things the rest of the way in fulfilling whatever wish fulfillment scenario best suits their specific leanings. At the same time you get the fetish fuel stuff in order to fuel specific fantasies and possibly slash pairings. I don't know maybe for some people this is fantastic character writing, but I expect a hell of a lot more. Plenty of game/sports themes shows I'm watching have significantly better character writing than this show does (though in fairness they also have a lot more than just 12 episodes in which to try to manage these things) though so maybe it makes for a tougher standard of comparison than most people have to experience since much of MAL sticks strictly to the otaku friendly shows and have no frame of reference for that. I did actually like getting to see some of the characters interact in a non-condescending manner for a change though, it was actually quite refreshing and probably the best handled aspect of this episode. You have gestures like Shiro and co. trying to help each other out in finding Sora and Sora even makes the gesture of allowing Kurami to continue on existing after the typically improbable resolution to the game. For this show that's a lot so that was nice to see. |
Kaioshin_Sama said: ollythirteen said: mirailianil said: I'm sorry to meddle in your fiery debate, however I would like to ask you one small thing: Please either learn to cut older quotes, or get a room and talk through Private Message. I'm gonna be honest, I'm the kind of person that tries to help clearing all the doubts and questions people have regarding the story or episode when I know the answers. This means that multiple times in order to give a good explanation a wall of text is necessary (reason why I use and abuse the color system), so truth is I'm not one to talk about the current situation... However the quote chains you guys create is terribly scary, and people like me when they see such a scary quote chain of wall of texts, will just ignore your conversation (to be honest I've been ignoring your posts since page 7 or 8 I believe). So this is why I would like to humbly ask you guys to either learn to cut on the quotes or start talking through PM. Thank you very much for your attention, DarkMoonWolf |
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| I remember someone complaining about Shiro's voice. I don't have problem with the voice acting for Shiro in general, except at the part where she screams "come back" near the end of the episode |
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| I'm glad Sora and Shiro are back together, but it was a bit of a boring episode IMO. But stuff does get interesting for the next episode, I'm curious what Sora is now planning to do with the elf. |
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| This episode was boring. What is the game they played ?! Sora and Shiro suddenly won without explaining how they won, and what game they were playing !!. By far this is the weakest episode I've seen in this anime. The previous games were much more enjoyable. Sora want the elf to work with him, but I wonder why he wants to alter her memory ? |
Caleb8980 said: Then let me complete it with some more information about how Shiro won the game. ^_^EDIT: Well...damn always too slow :D thepath said: Sora and Shiro suddenly won without explaining how they won!! [...] Sora want the elf to work with him, but I wonder why he wants to alter her memory ? Well if you wanna know the answer to the first question and be hinted about the answer of the second question, I suggest you read the part of volume 3 chapter one I posted before. DarkMoonWolf said: Kitoge said: Oh okay...actually wait...how'd they see the board then? I thought a spell was made to conceal it from them? Too tired to write... gonna copy paste instead: I'll also add the rest of the chapter, since it will probably answer many questions most people seem to have: Edit: added references and the rest of the chapter Edit: corrected HTML... Damn!! This post looks like a freaking Christmas Tree with so many colors >_< |
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Toaki90 said: Characters role: Steph: To take the idiots role that always confuse and question every motion by blank so Blank will have the chance to explain how the story goes/the game 'rule' to the audience. This is what absolutely grinds my gears about this show so far. It was ok at first but it after episode 5 I started to get annoyed. Even the fanservice began to make me cringe as well im forced to watch her undergo this stuff repeatedly. I really hope this is not how they will treat her threw out but im afraid it may well end up that way. |
DreddJun 5, 2014 2:25 PM
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| I liked the Othello scenes because I'm a huge Othello fan and I play all the time. ^_^ Good episode though, can't wait for the next one. |
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| I get a feeling this show could have an entire episode explaining how to watch paint dry and the hype train would discuss how "brilliant" and "intelligent" it was. Honestly, what a boring episode that once again ends in Sora and Shiro winning "just because they do." I was hoping after we got a great episode last week that this show could finally take off but here we are again with the story inching along. At least the fanservice has died down a bit so points for that but so far I've just seen this show as wasted potential. |
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thepath said: This episode was boring. What is the game they played ?! Sora and Shiro suddenly won without explaining how they won, and what game they were playing !!. By far this is the weakest episode I've seen in this anime. The previous games were much more enjoyable. Dude, the game they played is well known. What cave have you been living in to not know what othello is? The only twist they added to the game was that each piece contains a portion of their existence so as the game progressed, each player would steal each others existence. Since the game can't end unless all pieces are placed on the board Sora mentions that if they can no longer continue (possible since they lose their existence as game progresses) their partners take over. Sora set up the game for Shiro to win with the last 3 pieces which contains the most important parts of Sora's existence in winning the game (method of winning, absolute trust between Shiro and Sora, everything that Shiro is). |
| Omg at the amount of mindfuck in this episode. It was a serious virtual trip, I loved it! Sora's bets were so out of place and it was just such an amazing way to gain Kurumi's trust. You know what though, if somehow Shiro didn't remember, Sora, Kurumi, and Fi would be screwed for the rest of existence... |
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| Damn that was a really cool episode. Glad that Sora is back. And now Fi and Kurumi are their allies. Can't wait for the game agaisnt the Eastern Federation. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: Caleb8980 said: Before this gets out of hand, pls stop with the quote towers XD Well you know my stance on the matter concerning how I see Sora's and Shiro's characters so I won't argue with you here but one thing: These contradictions are what makes the dents in his perfect/gary stu picture: he is strong yet weak; he acts all the time as if he had great confidence but in reality he doesn't have it, that even showed itself in the end of this episode where he for once showed his real feelings instead of that smug smile all the time. It's still bad NisioIsin tier character writing to me (the weakness is strength thing), but that's a whole other can of worms. Personally I'm not seeing it this way myself so much as people just seem to be trying to fill in the blanks in the writing for themselves in whatever way is most convenient. That's another problem I have with a lot of LN writing, the laziness of the author in ever really committing to anything and basically give the reader just enough insight into characters in order to let them take things the rest of the way in fulfilling whatever wish fulfillment scenario best suits their specific leanings. At the same time you get the fetish fuel stuff in order to fuel specific fantasies and possibly slash pairings. I don't know maybe for some people this is fantastic character writing, but I expect a hell of a lot more. Plenty of game/sports themes shows I'm watching have significantly better character writing than this show does (though in fairness they also have a lot more than just 12 episodes in which to try to manage these things) though so maybe it makes for a tougher standard of comparison than most people have to experience since much of MAL sticks strictly to the otaku friendly shows and have no frame of reference for that. I did actually like getting to see some of the characters interact in a non-condescending manner for a change though, it was actually quite refreshing and probably the best handled aspect of this episode. You have gestures like Shiro and co. trying to help each other out in finding Sora and Sora even makes the gesture of allowing Kurami to continue on existing after the typically improbable resolution to the game. For this show that's a lot so that was nice to see. Again, it is probably based on perspective, I have to disagree with the whole sob story situation because they have not gone to the point where they remind you in the face every single time. They just present a very honest backstory that hopefully will be expanded on soon. The sibling bond also feels very genuine since it is nothing like what it is in mahouka where they both are stus who really start to feel annoying due to the nature of being overly clingy. To sum it up, ngnl did thread on some dangerous grounds but the execution did make it a success imho |
| Anime gave me more life lessons than school |
| The ending theme is SO AMAZING! The opening theme is amazing as well. This has been the 9th fantastic episode of this series. This has been the best airing show I have ever watched, and it is currently my fifth favorite anime. Sora is my fifth favorite anime character. |
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| Great episode. The part when Shiro was going through her memory, and when she won the game were amazing. Nowadays an 11-year-old girl is not only a master gamer but a detective too. So realistic. |
| "Me ni wa me wo, ha ni wa ha wo, aku ni wa aku wo." |
skudoops said: DreamingBeats said: I remember someone complaining about Shiro's voice. I don't have problem with the voice acting for Shiro in general, except at the part where she screams "come back" near the end of the episode That was me actually and yeah that scene in particular was awful. I find all characters that speak like she does tend to turn out awful. In this case, shiro doesn't really have her own personality, she seems to be a carbon copy of her brother, except talks a lot more slowly and stupidly. Also for the supposed genius in the group, she never actually makes a plan for herself, she just goes along with what he does. So how I see her is basically being a worse version of Sora. Honestly she seems (and probably is) like a pure pandering type character but her VA and lack of personality makes her the worst kind. Don't forget that she makes an illegal move in Chess in order to "win" the match. That was pretty special. |
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