Immahnoob said: If you're a guy who cries over a sprained ankle, because your girlfriend left you, or because you just finished watching Marley & Me, then you're a fucking pussy. It's very simple.No, you said that it's better for men not to cry because of social views that really are useless overall. You should cry when you feel like it, as I said, people that cry for no reason have other problems, not lack of masculinity. |
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BryanBossling said: You're one close-minded individual.Immahnoob said: If you're a guy who cries over a sprained ankle, because your girlfriend left you, or because you just finished watching Marley & Me, then you're a fucking pussy. It's very simple.No, you said that it's better for men not to cry because of social views that really are useless overall. You should cry when you feel like it, as I said, people that cry for no reason have other problems, not lack of masculinity. |
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Sapewloth said: I don't like that term, it doesn't seem to mean anything in these sort of discussions.You're one close-minded individual. |
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BryanBossling said: Sapewloth said: I don't like that term, it doesn't seem to mean anything in these sort of discussions.You're one close-minded individual. You may not like the term, but it certainly means something in the current discussion, given how narrow-minded you are regarding what masculinity is supposed to represent. |
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Sapewloth said: No, really whenever someone has a differing point of view people just hit you with: ''oh, well you're just close-minded'', in an effort to make your opponent's argument seem invalid. I am a very open minded person, believe it or not, I just don't think that crying is very manly.You may not like the term, but it certainly means something in the current discussion, given how narrow-minded you are regarding what masculinity is supposed to represent. I'll have you know that I also teared up during Marley & Me (although I didn't cry), although it's not my own manliness that I'm trying to prove here. |
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Endycia said: No they don't. What happened to the ''everyone reacts differently'' thing? Now you're saying that if a guy doesn't cry river, that only means he didn't give a shit. Talk about being judgmental.Crying because your girlfriend left you, I'm pretty sure that if you loved someone for several years and it trully was deep love, if the girl left you, you would cry rivers. Everyone does, unless you don't give a shit about your relationship. Endycia said: I admitted to dressing up in women's clothing in the ''Nail's'' thread, so I am definitely not trying to act tough. When did I ever say I was a tough guy? I'm just stating the obvious: ''Crying over bullshit isn't manly''.Seriously it still amazes me how you people tend to judge others and act so tough in the Internet or even IRL, People have diferent ways of reacting to things, criticizing them because of such is just plain dumb. You need to grow up and start facing reality if you think that men are pussies because they cry due to the examples that you gave. |
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| Over the top Manliness is overrated~ BryanBossling said: If you're a guy who cries over a sprained ankle, because your girlfriend left you, or because you just finished watching Marley & Me, then you're a fucking pussy. It's very simple. Being emotional is totally different from being a pussy! A warrior poet may weep at a sad poem one day and jump into the teeth of battle the next day. |
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dankickyou said: I wouldn't say that writing poetry makes you a pussy, since those are two completely different things. Weeping over poems is one thing though.Being emotional is totally different from being a pussy! A warrior poet may weep at a sad poem one day and jump into the teeth of battle the next day. Yes, how you react to and deal with hardship can definitely show what kind of person you are, whether you're a wimp or you're not. I'm not trying to set up an ideal here, that's just the way things are. If a man cries often and for silly reasons, then he's acting more like a woman would, and since when is it manly to act like a woman? |
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Aylaine said: Yep, that's basically what I meant. I wasn't refuting any of his arguments : his views of gender roles (in this case masculinity in particular) just seem particularly reductive and unhealthy, which makes him come off as a close-minded person (at the very least regarding this specific matter).BryanBossling said: Sapewloth said: No, really whenever someone has a differing point of view people just hit you with: ''oh, well you're just close-minded'', in an effort to make your opponent's argument seem invalid. I am a very open minded person, believe it or not, I just don't think that crying is very manly.You may not like the term, but it certainly means something in the current discussion, given how narrow-minded you are regarding what masculinity is supposed to represent. I'll have you know that I also teared up during Marley & Me (although I didn't cry), although it's not my own manliness that I'm trying to prove here. She might have been referring to the adherence of gender roles, which tend to be narrow minded in nature. I could be wrong; if I am, then count me on the ship instead. The sooner they go, the better. Everyone cries. It isn't a sign of anything other then being human. |
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Sapewloth said: Some people believe that giving birth and breastfeeding are potential acts of manliness. We all have our own ideas of what constitutes manliness, and in my opinion, crying like a little bitch is not fitting of someone who wants to be a man.Yep, that's basically what I meant. I wasn't refuting any of his arguments : his views of gender roles (in this case masculinity in particular) just seem particularly reductive and unhealthy, which makes him come off as a close-minded person (at the very least regarding this specific matter). |
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BryanBossling said: Immahnoob said: If you're a guy who cries over a sprained ankle, because your girlfriend left you, or because you just finished watching Marley & Me, then you're a fucking pussy. It's very simple.No, you said that it's better for men not to cry because of social views that really are useless overall. You should cry when you feel like it, as I said, people that cry for no reason have other problems, not lack of masculinity. Subjective, wrong. |
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| Yo Pirate, can you prove to me objectively that that is what a "pussy" is or that that is actually wrong for men to do? You can't, it's an opinion. And he's not leaving any options out, which also makes it a fallacy. Crying over a sprained ankle is dependent on how well you take pain, if that girlfriend meant a lot to you and let's say you would have gotten married, then you could have a reason (but even if this situation wouldn't happen, it would be the same anyway), maybe watching Marley & Me reminded him of one of his own real life situations or maybe he correlated it with something else, that implies real life experience. Anyway, why don't you guys try to take out the big guns? I've been bored these days. |
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| If I cry, it's because shit's sad and stuff. I don't cry due to (physical) pain though. |
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| That's a strawman, I've never claimed that it's manly or not, or feminine or not (by the way, these are also subjective, but let's just say that we have a "universal" one, to make this fun). That's not my point, my point actually clearly states that masculinity is useless (just like femininity), as it proves to brings a lot of disadvantages and little to no advantages. Pain seems to be tolerated by women a lot more than by men, because of estrogen they say, but they're still debating about such things, to me it looks like it still tilts towards women as men's toleration of pain is just a facade most of the times considering how "masculinity" works. If only you could have read my responses though, you would have had a chance to fabricate some idiotic argument that has no room for objections (which in itself is a fallacy, but it's hard to see most of the times). |
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| If you didn't, then it's a red herring, completely useless to what I said. |
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| Men shouldn't cry unless in certain situations. |
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| Some cry for stupid reasons, stuff that shouldn't tear you up. |
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GuusWayne said: Some cry for stupid reasons, stuff that shouldn't tear you up. Then they have problems like depression or stress related stuff. |
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| Women are less tolerant to pain than men are, the exception to this is during childbirth. |
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BryanBossling said: Women are less tolerant to pain than men are, the exception to this is during childbirth. Sources? |
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Immahnoob said: BryanBossling said: Women are less tolerant to pain than men are, the exception to this is during childbirth. Sources? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_tolerance ; though, I don't know where Bryan is going with this since it has nothing to do with crying. |
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GuusWayne said: Why?Men shouldn't cry unless in certain situations. |
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snaphat said: Immahnoob said: BryanBossling said: Women are less tolerant to pain than men are, the exception to this is during childbirth. Sources? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_tolerance ; though, I don't know where Bryan is going with this since it has nothing to do with crying. "...men are more motivated to tolerate and suppress expressions of pain because of the masculine sex role, whereas the feminine sex role encourages pain expression and produces lower motivation to tolerate pain among women." That's the problem. |
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Immahnoob said: snaphat said: Immahnoob said: BryanBossling said: Women are less tolerant to pain than men are, the exception to this is during childbirth. Sources? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_tolerance ; though, I don't know where Bryan is going with this since it has nothing to do with crying. "...men are more motivated to tolerate and suppress expressions of pain because of the masculine sex role, whereas the feminine sex role encourages pain expression and produces lower motivation to tolerate pain among women." That's the problem. It began with "One possible explanation suggests that..." (from the paper); ergo, it is a hypothesis, not a theory (yet). The part we do know is that in studies women do tend to report less of a tolerance; whether or not that is has a basis in gender roles, this research hasn't concluded. It definitely is a plausible hypothesis though and I would look to see more research regarding this. |
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Immahnoob said: I posted my source earlier ITT.BryanBossling said: Women are less tolerant to pain than men are, the exception to this is during childbirth. Sources? |
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Red_Keys said: It displays lack of masculinity and emotional immaturity.GuusWayne said: Why?Men shouldn't cry unless in certain situations. |
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GuusWayne said: How?Red_Keys said: It displays lack of masculinity and emotional immaturity.GuusWayne said: Why?Men shouldn't cry unless in certain situations. And why is that a bad thing? |
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| Crying is just a way to express feelings, there's nothing weak or strong about it. |
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