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| Maaan, I was hoping Ryuuji wouldn't end up with Taiga but meh~ The whole 'eloping and then getting married' thing was pretty lame D: Too many things happened in just one episode and it was also full of too much drama/cheesiness I hope the last episode will be better... if not, my score for the show will definitely go down a lot /: and btw, am I the only one who thinks that Ryuuji's grandparents resemble him and Taiga after 35 years xD |
| We're all insane |
| That was ridiculous. |
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| This show is just fantastic. Best of its genre, from what I've seen. The only thing I didn't like about in this episode was when Minori tripped and fell... It looked a lot more damaging than just a nosebleed. |
| I know there's one episode left but I'll say it now: Liked the journey, disliked the ending and it's execution. Went from a 9 to a 8 for me, could've been a 10. I think the pacing was really fast here. Yes, i'm sure the novel apologetics will say "they packed in X chapters into here and it could have been better fleshed out"; whatever. We can just agree that the animation studio could have done better executing it. Besides, I won't ever read the light novel, so don't use it as justification on why people should like the way the story in the anime developed based on the novel's development. As for particulars: it's an easy conclusion to reach that Yachan did what she did so Ryuuji could have the life she didn't have, but he didn't have to yell at her about it, that's just disrespectfu and now she's gone, with Inko; sucks for Minorin to be so supportive of two friends who are now leaving her; and at least Ami got the closure she wanted, and it's good she becomes a friend (kinda) of Minorin because they could both use one. As for the out of the blue proposal/marriage... divorce in less than 5 years. By that time Ami will be a famous model and Minorin will be a pro-softball player in the US. Ryuuji and Taiga won't even have a high school diplomas. I want that OVA. |
| the whole eloping/running away thing was ok. Didn't hate it or like it. But the things leading up to it was quite stunning. Particularly between Ryuuji and Yasuko. I could not believe what happened then. |
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| yeah i'm going to have have to go back and watch this episode again cause: 1: I just got through watching some shitty subs (cgs) & 2: I didn't understand half of the crap that was going on in that episode because of how everything was so rushed. I mean we start off with them chasing after taiga who just bolted out the classroom and then all the sudden taiga x ryuuji are getting married/eloping? wtf!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? |
| lol CGS subs. *puke* |
| Wow those were bad subs. I wish i would have waited for coalguys sub. but ill deffinately be re-watchining that version. I have to agree with everyone that episode 24 was certainly jam packed with drama. ive only watched the anime so im not sure how the story plays out in the light novels, but from what ive read here i really think they screwed up by not showing a proper confession, or the kiss for that matter! the idea of them eloping without actually being shown a proper confession just seems stupid. I hope the last episode redeems this episode and leaves the anime in a good place. Here hoping for a good last episode! |
| I honestly don't know whether this episode was good or not. It just felt way too damn rushed, this episode could have been split into two or three. Also the whole eloping/marriage thing seemed like an incredibly stupid thing to do. Felt really cheesy. The whole episode was just weird. We'll see how the last episode is, but I almost brought this to a 7 after after this one. |
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| Awesome episode, but what's with he ending scene, I thought Kawashima left them the keys to her villa yet he went to his grandparents? Although this could just be to get their approval or something, but if it's going to end in one episode I have no idea how they're going to do it. |
| I feel like they're rushing it a bit. But it's all cool seeing as how they got their homies to back them up. MinorinxAmi anyone? <3 |
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| Fucking Ryuuji made Yasuuko cry. Anyway kinda childish what he did there... about running with taiga to nowhere, and without thinking what he did to his mom, what kind of mature decition is that? *Sighs*. Next ep? I see a non-Taiga/Ryuuji Ending. He comes back to his old house (thats what its seems). CGS subs its like permanent diarrea, never try them. I just saw 5 mins of them and then i officially droped the episode. Had to wait till CoalGuys subs finished with the episode. So many stuff happened on this episode, i felt like they were rushing it. |
| This is a Toradora! sandwich. It is made of WTF and facepalm. |
Ruzgfpegk said: Forgot the Facedesktop?This is a Toradora! sandwich. It is made of WTF and facepalm. |
| yeah... I di9dn't understand any of it. it was all going too fast. First they were awkward with each other, then they were dating... THEN THEY ARE MARRIED!? wtf. I was hoping some kind of good ending, one more episode to go. ;; |
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| Wow ... i'm just not sure what to think of that episode yet. Super rushed, ridiculous plan to run away and get married, and just a big bag of wtf mixed in with it. I can honestly say that I don't like where the last 2 episodes have gone. *sigh* to many animes end up with a shitty ending that end up ruining most of the anime for me. I really hope the last episode can fix everything they have done. |
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hazelnutman said: lol CGS subs. *puke* |
minsk said: Did i misread something later in the episode, but when taiga and ryuuji were on the train she mentioned something about a Eh, I noticed that too... Maybe the subs were incorrect or maybe |
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minsk said: Did i misread something later in the episode, but when taiga and ryuuji were on the train she mentioned something about a I thought she meant along with Yasuko...I'm not really sure. I feel like I missed half of the episode because of bad subs. Anyway, I'm kind of liking this Minori/Ami duo. On the other hand, I'm not feeling this ~*running away bsns*~. Really. Toradora? |
cabaretMar 20, 2009 3:10 AM
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| Between the sudden marriage proposal, jumping off bridges, and excessively generous friends, the most unbelievable moment of this episode was what ryuuji said to his mother. Ryuuji fails at life for that. Seriously. |
| well that was weird. glad this is almost over. |
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| Amazing episode! I loved it! Maybe one of the best episodes! This is imo turning out to a GREAT ending! |
Naruleach said: well that was weird. glad this is almost over. I agree. Some scenes were just random. Why did she push him off the bridge? -_- |
| I would have liked a few episodes of relationship instead of the sudden realization that was displayed in this episode, but it's all good; I still found myself smiling at the end of the episode. I was kind of disappointing in the 'Ami needing to hear it from him' part. Their relationship wasn't developed enough for me to truly believe that they could have had something. |
| Seriously what the hell was that?? this series was perfect for the first 21 episodes but the past 4 have been so badly written. But this one was the worst by far. The fact the developed a romance for those first 21 episodes and just made it magically switch in the last few was annoying enough. This series was so natural before, i could relate to it. There was situations that i had been pretty much the same in. This series has had so many chances to pull of cliches and it didn't. it always proved to do something unique and realistic but the whole taiga ending is just a massive cliche itself. Well to my rant actually about this episode. Firstly i've lost quite a bit of respect for taiga and ryuji. i mean they make them seem like the good people but really they are the opposite. i mean the way they treated their mothers was shocking. The fact they just ditched all their friends for their selfishness. and then the fact that they want to get married?? this series just got way to unrealistic in one episode. it was ridiculous. 'sigh' i originally hoped for an ami ending early on because she really suited ryuji the best by far but i realised by a point that it was just not gonna happen. I always liked minorin and the fact we knew both ryuji and her liked each other made it seem so possible. i was supporting it for such a long time now just to see ryuji 'discover' these feelings for taiga. Just seems stupid to me. uhg theres plenty more i can rant about here, im sure of it. |
| WOW! Amazing. I love irrational romantic decisions, they make great stories. This is all looking to be a highly predictable ending. Poor Minorin. I wonder if in the next episode Ami will get upset, it seems she is overdue a breakdown - either that or she's already over it/has no emotions. |
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| I'm in total agreement with velcom here ... just wtf happened to this show. It proved me wrong time and time again (in a good way, by not be a stereotypical comedy/drama show), then out of nowhere they decide to toss the first 22eps aside and say, wth, lets be dumb and see how much we can fuxx up the ending. I am pulling for the School Days ending now ... c'mon Ami start hacking some people up! |
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CrazyOtaku said: I'm in total agreement with velcom here ... just wtf happened to this show. It proved me wrong time and time again (in a good way, by not be a stereotypical comedy/drama show), then out of nowhere they decide to toss the first 22eps aside and say, wth, lets be dumb and see how much we can fuxx up the ending. I am pulling for the School Days ending now ... c'mon Ami start hacking some people up! i'm glad someone agrees, i mean pretty much the first 21 episodes of this show was a utter waste of time for the romance plot. the reason being that there was no development at all in a ryuji and taiga romance before then. And when people keep saying 'but it was obvious from the beginning' it really annoys me because it wasen't. the series has been very misleading. i really thought this series would avoid the typical romance ending because of the way it handled it. i was sadly proven wrong :( |
velcom said: CrazyOtaku said: I'm in total agreement with velcom here ... just wtf happened to this show. It proved me wrong time and time again (in a good way, by not be a stereotypical comedy/drama show), then out of nowhere they decide to toss the first 22eps aside and say, wth, lets be dumb and see how much we can fuxx up the ending. I am pulling for the School Days ending now ... c'mon Ami start hacking some people up! i'm glad someone agrees, i mean pretty much the first 21 episodes of this show was a utter waste of time for the romance plot. the reason being that there was no development at all in a ryuji and taiga romance before then. And when people keep saying 'but it was obvious from the beginning' it really annoys me because it wasen't. the series has been very misleading. i really thought this series would avoid the typical romance ending because of the way it handled it. i was sadly proven wrong :( While I agree with you on the part about not having much development between Ryuuji and Taiga but I wouldn't go as far as saying the show is misleading. The show's named Toradora for a reason. I didn't like this episode. It feels as if some parts were missing. Also, what were their parents mad about exactly? All I know that Ryuuji promised his mother not to work yet he did but I didn't expect her to overreact like that. |
| Hmm, somewhat shocking and fast paced episode... its not that i didnt like it but at this rate the last episode has to be fast paced aswell and i thought its going to be more of a relaxed, lovely ending episode. i hope they will show us a road that both of them will definitly go together so that iam not left with "huh? thats all? so are they going to life together or not?". well iam still cheering on them, go taiga x ryuuji :3 |
Rebella said: velcom said: CrazyOtaku said: I'm in total agreement with velcom here ... just wtf happened to this show. It proved me wrong time and time again (in a good way, by not be a stereotypical comedy/drama show), then out of nowhere they decide to toss the first 22eps aside and say, wth, lets be dumb and see how much we can fuxx up the ending. I am pulling for the School Days ending now ... c'mon Ami start hacking some people up! i'm glad someone agrees, i mean pretty much the first 21 episodes of this show was a utter waste of time for the romance plot. the reason being that there was no development at all in a ryuji and taiga romance before then. And when people keep saying 'but it was obvious from the beginning' it really annoys me because it wasen't. the series has been very misleading. i really thought this series would avoid the typical romance ending because of the way it handled it. i was sadly proven wrong :( While I agree with you on the part about not having much development between Ryuuji and Taiga but I wouldn't go as far as saying the show is misleading. The show's named Toradora for a reason. thats exactly what i mean by people saying it was obvious. from my view the title showed the bond of their friendship. to me they were shown as extremely close friends who were like brother and sister in a way. i felt like they had a little family with ya-chan. now it just feels a bit like incest.... also i don't think ya-chan overeacted, shes had a tough life and really was never the right person to raise a child by herself. but she managed to for 17 years. She really has wanted ryuji to do well in life unlike her because shes upset about that. ryuji made a promise to her which meant alot and it made her upset. personally i think ryuji overeacted. even on a situation like that i don't think anyone should treat their mother so badly :( and to top it off he ran away. btw has no one else noticed that at the start of this episode ryuji and taiga were meant to be not running away anymore? but then they ended up running away in the end. very stupid.... |
velcom said: Rebella said: velcom said: CrazyOtaku said: I'm in total agreement with velcom here ... just wtf happened to this show. It proved me wrong time and time again (in a good way, by not be a stereotypical comedy/drama show), then out of nowhere they decide to toss the first 22eps aside and say, wth, lets be dumb and see how much we can fuxx up the ending. I am pulling for the School Days ending now ... c'mon Ami start hacking some people up! i'm glad someone agrees, i mean pretty much the first 21 episodes of this show was a utter waste of time for the romance plot. the reason being that there was no development at all in a ryuji and taiga romance before then. And when people keep saying 'but it was obvious from the beginning' it really annoys me because it wasen't. the series has been very misleading. i really thought this series would avoid the typical romance ending because of the way it handled it. i was sadly proven wrong :( While I agree with you on the part about not having much development between Ryuuji and Taiga but I wouldn't go as far as saying the show is misleading. The show's named Toradora for a reason. thats exactly what i mean by people saying it was obvious. from my view the title showed the bond of their friendship. to me they were shown as extremely close friends who were like brother and sister in a way. i felt like they had a little family with ya-chan. now it just feels a bit like incest.... also i don't think ya-chan overeacted, shes had a tough life and really was never the right person to raise a child by herself. but she managed to for 17 years. She really has wanted ryuji to do well in life unlike her because shes upset about that. ryuji made a promise to her which meant alot and it made her upset. personally i think ryuji overeacted. even on a situation like that i don't think anyone should treat their mother so badly :( and to top it off he ran away. btw has no one else noticed that at the start of this episode ryuji and taiga were meant to be not running away anymore? but then they ended up running away in the end. very stupid.... But he said they didn't run at the very end. I thought things were becoming stupid when Minorin unzipped her sweat jacket and offered to give her credit card. I thought it couldn't get worse after ep 23 ending but it did. |
| I have to say I'm troubled by the direction everything's headed. There were some fantastic moments (especially from Minorin which is a nice change), but running away? Getting married? Seriously? After all the cliché, predictable ending, alternative pairings etc this week we finally got to the point where School Days was actually mentioned in the Toradora topic.. With the words of Kizaki Emi: you..make me sick |
| I liked the episode, too bad that they cut out the bridge kiss scene from the novels though and used the lame cellphone block. :/ People saying that there was no romantic development between Taiga and Ryuuji during the first 20ish episodes obviously didn't pay much attention. |
| ugh, no. this episode (and maybe partially ep 23) made me drop toradora's score from 10 to 8. Rush rush rush + gay ending + over the top drama. This is NOT the toradora I know and love. |
Charliehsv said: I liked the episode, too bad that they cut out the bridge kiss scene from the novels though and used the lame cellphone block. :/ People saying that there was no romantic development between Taiga and Ryuuji during the first 20ish episodes obviously didn't pay much attention. Other than making her meals? When? |
| This episode should probably have been split into two. Still I have very much been loving this and believe that the light novels probably would help fill the small part about Ryuuji's mindset that the anime has had problems dealing with(mostly due to the medium). Indeed this is supposed to be the rushed stupid teenager decision that some people sometimes make. Ryuuji was indeed very wrong for what he said to his mother and I believe(and think will happen) he will apologize to her. What is kinda annoying is that he knows he's acting like a brat by running away yet he's still going through with it. I am curious if they are going to pull some weird ending out, like mess with the pairings or something. As for the people complaining about the rushed ending, well I rather have a rushed ending than an open or anime only one. I think the pacing is slightly off but I understand considering they pretty much had to cram the tenth novel into 2 episodes(I don't know if 23 was part of novel 10). JC Staff really should have pushed for a 26 episode broadcasting schedule and split this episode but I can forgive them as I feel the source material is great and I feel that they have done a good job with the story(beginning aside). I would really love to read all the light novels and again reiterate that I hope both are licensed. For the people complaining about the predictability, well you pretty much had to be blind not to see this coming and originality is not everything but rather execution. The drama aspect I didn't expect to be as heavy but I like it very much and it makes for something different than all the other anime romances. Edit:The romantic aspect of Taiga's and Ryuuji's relationship is more like real life(barring the runaway and marriage part). They both became dependent on each other and while it wasn't love on first sight, they realized that they used each other for emotional support, as seen with both of them kicking that light post in the early episodes, and started to subconsciously care for each other. |
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