Japan's Weekly Blu-ray & CD Rankings for Nov 11 - Nov 17

jmal said:

Wasn't that the premise of Tsuyokiss?

kuuderes_shadow said:
After several weeks of almost constantly being in the top 2 blurays in the ranking, Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio has finally overtaken Little Busters to join the top 4 by predictions. However, this seems to have been almost entirely LB's drop, rather than AHnA's gain.

Also I wonder if the special Amazon edition would make it more Amazon-heavy, and thus possibly overestimated by stalker.

scytheavatar said:
Seems like Freezing S2 will be a flop....... what made them think it was a good idea to greenlight a second season? The first season did alright but wasn't that big of a hit (average sales of 5299) but the material covered by the second season from the manga was always going to be a bit crap and something that's hard to sell to otakus.

rederoin said:
***,*94位/***,106位 ★ (**3,114 pt) [*,178予約] 2014/01/08 キルラキル 1(完全生産限定版) [Blu-ray]
***,121位/***,116位 ★ (**2,673 pt) [*,119予約] 2013/12/27 【Amazon.co.jp限定】蒼き鋼のアルペジオ -アルス・ノヴァ- 第1巻(初回限定生産)(描き下ろし全巻収納BOX付き)[Blu-ray]
***,136位/***,123位 ★ (**2,347 pt) [*,*64予約] 2013/12/25 のんのんびより 第1巻 [Blu-ray]

At the second to last update, not a single V1 was in the top 100. Thats the first time I saw something like that happen in the middle of a season.


edit :
***,104位/***,102位 ★ (**3,188 pt) [*,178予約] 2014/01/08 Kill la Kill v1 [Blu-ray]
***,126位/***,118位 ★ (**2,740 pt) [*,119予約] 2013/12/27 Aoki Hagane no Arpeggio: Ars Nova v1[Blu-ray]
***,129位/***,126位 ★ (**2,419 pt) [*,*64予約] 2013/12/25 Non Non Biyori v1 [Blu-ray]
And now this..



It wasn't really a question, I just think it'd be interesting(although it would never happen).

Or a yandere yuri harem.

jmal said:

Rank this hour, rank previous hour.

Meddigo said:


Top 3 likely to be

1. Kuroko no Basket 2
2. IS 2
3. Kill la Kill

Unless JC Staff does a really good job on Refrain, then I'd expect Refrain to take 3rd spot.

Hahalollawl said:
I was a bit perplexed as to where Kaioshin got the impression sunrise was widely viewed as a trainwreck studio. From what I've seen, it has been among the most successful and produced some of the more iconic shows. I seem to remember looking at one of jmal's lists (thanks for that btw) and seeing Sunrise a lot among the list of highest selling shows. At the same time, I'm pretty sure I have seen that "trainwreck" thing mentioned in relation to Sunrise before, so I realize it's not just you being delusional. Still, I don't think it's true. Also, if it makes you feel any better, who cares what the majority of western fans think anyways, it's not like they (we?) have that much of an impact on sales right? lol.

rederoin said:
Really? Looks like I got myself something new to watch

rederoin said:

I think that would only apply to the amazon editions, and not the normal editions, Right?

Hoppy said:
Not only that how many Sunrise anime depend even 10% on BD/DVD sales? They are one of the kings of merchandising and the merchandise matters and so easy to come by it isn't funny, just buying a Gundam game supports that franchise, easy for any fan to do.

kuuderes_shadow said:
Love Live volume... 6?

Not even volume 7?

Wow.

ThangLong said:
Futuremore, the studio is not the manufacture of the merchandise, it probably only receives royalty from owning the title through Bandai. So Sunrise would actually get less money percentage-wise than selling its own disc.

hpulley said:
^^^ Yes and not the 4 I would have predicted from the beginning of the season, not 2 of them anyway:

Arpeggio of Blue Steel / Ars Nova
Kill la Kill
Infinite Stratos 2
Non Non Biyori

Xinception said:
Can anyone educate me on how to browse The Amazon Top 100 and beyond list? I'm a noob at Japanese since I just started, and I'd like to check on how my favorite shows are doing.

Xinception said:

@rederoin

May I ask you who those cute girls are in your signature?

Also

rederoin said:

Himawari & Sakurako(Yuru yuri).


http://www27392u.sakura.ne.jp/index_news.cgi
Here you can look up the V1 rankings of anime series. Not sure where to find the rankings of the volume's outside the top 100.

symbv said:

Hmmm.. Charlotte may be not a tundere, kuudere or whatever, but dere she definitely is and extremely moe too.

hpulley said:
Charlotte is deredere chou moe moe! You don't get much more moe than Charlotte... or deredere...

Progeusz said:
Whaaa?!
She's definitely the most moe out of IS girls. If it weren't for her, I'm not sure if I would be able to like IS.

ToG25thBaam said:

I am somehow under the impression that cute =/= moe. Charlotte is cute, the girls from Non Non Biyori are cute, but are they moe? I doubt so. Example of moe, KyoAni's girls.

kuuderes_shadow said:
It will almost certainly rank on the full list. This week isn't nearly brutal enough to stop it unless it is overestimated by stalker, especially not with the low amount of stuff that ranked this week and will get that figure next week.

rederoin said:
Just looking at all new releases for the week coppelion is released in.





Seems like a really busy week, but I don't really keep track of what gets released each week, so I'm not sure.

rederoin said:
Its nice to see the Hidamari sketch OVA to be estimated at 14.7k

Progeusz said:
That's a lot of new releases. However there will be no anime-wk2 so it might have a chance to appear in Thursday list.We would need some info about non-anime BDs but I'm not sure if there's any site tracking that like Stalker.

rederoin said:

Acteally, that week will have wk.2 of the 5th volume of SnK. No idea how big the Wk.2's of the other anime BD's that get released this week will be.

-Snk v.5
-KKK v.2(no second week)
-Kimi no Iru Machi
-DeSu v.6
-Rozen maiden v.4
-Milky holmes v.2(no second week)
-C3-bu vol.3(no second week)
-Devils and Realist vol.3
-Crime edge v.6
-Gundam W BD box
-S.A.C 2nd gig
-The Eccentric family vol.3
^The releases of this week(sales thread of next week).

Kaioshin_Sama said:
Aikatsu does not seem like the kind of show that would be in a top 100 spot. Can somebody enlighten me?

hpulley said:
^^^ The Non Non Biyori girls are chou moe moe! Absolutely!

symbv said:
Cute =/= moe, right. Because moe encompasses more than cute, and being cute in anime nowadays almost always means moe. And Charlotte is definitely MOE - I have no doubt about it from how I see fans in Japan describes her. And it is the same with Non Non Biyori - which has moe galore and the character design and art is just a small part of its moe appeal. In sum moe covers a lot more things than cuteness, which is why cute=/=moe

jmal said:

Whether someone feels moe for a character is not about an animation studio. Moe isn't itself even an art style, which is the biggest mistake some fans make. Visuals are of course important for a lot of people in inspiring moe feelings (this is a visual medium after all), but visuals without the context of a characters thoughts, actions, feelings, desires don't equal moe. They may inspire nostalgia, curiosity, or maybe arousal, but those are different feelings.

And I totally moe hard for Koma-chan in Non Non. Poor always-suffering Koma-chan. Not sure why you don't think Non Non can inspire moe feelings.

rederoin said:
Acteally, that week will have wk.2 of the 5th volume of SnK. No idea how big the Wk.2's of the other anime BD's that get released this week will be.

-Snk v.5
-KKK v.2(no second week)
-Kimi no Iru Machi
-DeSu v.6
-Rozen maiden v.4
-Milky holmes v.2(no second week)
-C3-bu vol.3(no second week)
-Devils and Realist vol.3
-Crime edge v.6
-Gundam W BD box
-S.A.C 2nd gig
-The Eccentric family vol.3
^The releases of this week(sales thread of next week).

ToG25thBaam said:
...
And, do remember that Charlotte, if I remember correctly, is still crossdressing, she uses "boku" to address herself, I mean, can that even counted as moe? It's almost like saying a guy is moe. Sure she's cute, but moe? Hmm..

Hahalollawl said:
On a different note, is that kimi no iru machi v3 or 2? If it's 3 how did 2 do without the manga extra?

ToG25thBaam said:
Well the moe knowledge is kind of deep, lol. I wasn't connecting moe to the animation studio, but almost every KyoAni girls gave off that feels, they're just being overly cute (moe). Another example that I know is Outbreak Company, take a look at Myusel. Compare KyoAni girls and Myusel to those of Koma-chan and Charlotte, they seem very tame in comparison, which is why I did not label them as moe, but just cute.

ToG25thBaam said:
And, do remember that Charlotte, if I remember correctly, is still crossdressing, she uses "boku" to address herself, I mean, can that even counted as moe? It's almost like saying a guy is moe. Sure she's cute, but moe? Hmm..

ToG25thBaam said:
As for Koma-chan, well she is kind of cute, like a child, do you call a child "moe"? Cute is more befitting imho.

ToG25thBaam said:
Take the megane girl from Kyoukai no Kanata and Myusel from Outbreak Company, and compare them to the girls from Non Non Biyori and Charlotte from IS2, well.. that's a huge difference. Moe is, just like jmal said, more into their personality instead of their appearance though it still plays a factor in it.

Hahalollawl said:
Wow, so it seems almost anything that makes you like it can be considered "moe"...

Hahalollawl said:
I thought I was not particularly into moe things but if the definition is that broad then I guess everyone likes moe things...By the way, are ojous considered moe? If so, I guess I do like moe stuff lol.

symbv said:
This is why I said almost every midnight anime you see have moe in it.

Ojou is definitely a moe point, as is the haughty tone and language she uses. The point of moe is that there are a bunch of features that may involve appearance, behavior, speech, background or personality that are introduced and emphasized in certain way that would induce the moe feeling from the watchers towards the character. I see the moe concept to be an evolution of character design and as I explained before is a major approach to increase the appeal of an anime, particularly in terms of sales of discs and merchandise. Often to a consumer the make-or-break point between buying or not buying a disc or its related merchandise is whether he holds enough "moe" feeling towards the characters. He may like the series alright but it does not necessarily mean he will spend money on it....

I believe among western fans "moe" is often taken to mean a certain recognizable art style for character design. I won't say that it is wrong but it is just some of the narrowest definitions for the word, and in Japan the usage of the word is mostly consistent with the broad definition I mentioned above.