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Will you quit watching harem, ecchi, and/or rom-com anime or reading LNs and manga in these genres if the bill passes?
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Aug 31, 2013 6:01 PM

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Pirating_Ninja said:
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doesn't japan have better things to do right now (fixing the nuclear leakage in the pacific) then censors and bans on anime?


Yes, they need to fix their high youth unemployment rate as well.
Maybe their logic is that under aged girls bouncing around in a sexualized fashion poisons the minds of the youth. By fixing that they will have less youth unemployed . . . Don't hate me, just connecting the dots here.


Only one problem, mangaka and manga artists will be out of work, increasing unemployment, while some may wind up doing other genres, quite a few have a passion for what they are doing and don't want to move on to other genres or demographics at the moment. Also, if sexualized fashions are poisoning youth so much, why the government isn't banning the slutty fashions grade schoolers are wearing? They could have the whole PTA supporting it and no opposition from anyone. Where's the law on that? It would be better than banning ecchi of lolis, middle schoolers, and high schoolers which aren't real. This is an example of government at it's most incompetent, they can't get their priorities straight.


Aug 31, 2013 6:03 PM

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Hoppy said:
Pirating_Ninja said:
Hoppy said:
Sourire said:
doesn't japan have better things to do right now (fixing the nuclear leakage in the pacific) then censors and bans on anime?


Yes, they need to fix their high youth unemployment rate as well.
Maybe their logic is that under aged girls bouncing around in a sexualized fashion poisons the minds of the youth. By fixing that they will have less youth unemployed . . . Don't hate me, just connecting the dots here.


Only one problem, mangaka and manga artists will be out of work, increasing unemployment, while some may wind up doing other genres, quite a few have a passion for what they are doing and don't want to move on to other genres or demographics at the moment. Also, if sexualized fashions are poisoning youth so much, why the government isn't banning the slutty fashions grade schoolers are wearing? They could have the whole PTA supporting it and no opposition from anyone. Where's the law on that? It would be better than banning ecchi of lolis, middle schoolers, and high schoolers which aren't real. This is an example of government at it's most incompetent, they can't get their priorities straight.
That's what a government is now. It's the same everywhere.
Lolis > Everything
Aug 31, 2013 6:12 PM

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I won't care, if I wanted to see a loli all I have to do is look in a mirror and cry.

On a serious note: College settings don't appeal to me either, if that bill passes I probably won't watch any new anime(of the genre) until after it fails again. I don't think it will pass anyway, at least I hope not. Not that I'm obsessed with lolis, but I would miss the character type if they suddenly disappeared.
Aug 31, 2013 6:17 PM

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I would just spam the japanese political emailing system with lolicon.



Aug 31, 2013 6:21 PM
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over all it all leads back to one incedent and began getting porn censored back in the mod 80's and thgen ishihara law that i disise

but over all ths law could moost likly be traced to the moral gudinans like the PTA
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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Aug 31, 2013 6:45 PM

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TheUnknownTurnip said:
I would just spam the japanese political emailing system with lolicon.


I like to see 2ch members do this, it would be pretty funny.


Aug 31, 2013 6:47 PM
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Hoppy said:
TheUnknownTurnip said:
I would just spam the japanese political emailing system with lolicon.


I like to see 2ch members do this, it would be pretty funny.


they wont do that thay dont anymore
"If you tremble with indignation at every injustice, then you are a comrade of mine"

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Aug 31, 2013 8:05 PM

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I love harem anime so I will not quit watching it.
Aug 31, 2013 8:09 PM

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so why is there a ban on loli anime in the first place?
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Aug 31, 2013 8:11 PM

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MEanimaniac1 said:
I won't care, if I wanted to see a loli all I have to do is look in a mirror

Be careful saying such things, the guys here are dangerous.
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Aug 31, 2013 8:11 PM

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beavis2323 said:
so why is there a ban on loli anime in the first place?
Japan's trying to corner me in.
Lolis > Everything
Aug 31, 2013 8:11 PM

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beavis2323 said:
so why is there a ban on loli anime in the first place?


Because senile old folks want to restrict freedom expression in Japan.


Aug 31, 2013 8:52 PM

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god people fight for the dumbest causes
I don't see anyone wanting to ban guro hentai, whats the difference?
lol @ img bbcode not working, mal is such a great site
Aug 31, 2013 10:08 PM

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I'm torn between this, while I don't like censoring, I would love to see less child porn lolis.
Sep 1, 2013 5:14 AM
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I would kill myself it it passes
Sep 1, 2013 6:55 AM

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I am sick of lots of anime cliches and school settings but i know very well that censorship never is a way to go. It's always a slippery slop and give free card for authorities to become even more corrupted by enforcing a law bill to whoever they chose(probably depending on the under the table payment). Nothing but fascism.
I like more senein anime but this is not the way to get them.

Also the irony of trying to hit a segment that is based on art and fantasy shows that we are dealing with old close minded fools wanting to pass their conservatism against new type of things.
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I'd say lolis or not, censoring media in general gives me a bad taste in the mouth.
Sep 1, 2013 7:34 AM

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HaXXspetten said:
I'd say lolis or not, censoring media in general gives me a bad taste in the mouth.


This is one the true reasons why the bill is so hated by both the fans and haters alike.

Mod Edit: Removed quote of a deleted post.
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Sep 1, 2013 1:04 PM
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Thread cleaned.
Removed the pointless quote towers, the loli/ecchi discussion and other off-topic/spam posts. Please stay on-topic.
Sep 1, 2013 2:16 PM

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They should be banned. What would I do? Celebrate, maybe?
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I'll celebrate.
Sep 1, 2013 6:53 PM

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NiN10d0h said:
I'll celebrate.
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They should be banned. What would I do? Celebrate, maybe?
I'll crash the party, and that's in red!
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Sep 1, 2013 7:05 PM

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If it passes, they would just make extra short underaged looking characters that go to college but with the exact same personality and cliched archetype as you would get in a highschool/middle school setting.
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This is the first time i have ever heard of such bill.
Trying to put my lolicon self aside.
If this bill passes i will be extremly disappointed in the Japan government. There was already a bill to censor any sort of sexual content or anything considered harmful to the viewer, that airs on TV that is. So are they now trying to take down the whole genre itself? I can not accept this as a fan of it. I like highschool settings and i like ecchi. But on the bigger picture this is taking away freedom for artists everywhere and that is just wrong.
Sep 1, 2013 9:06 PM

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Lolis are disgusting, they should be had been banned long ago.
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Sep 1, 2013 9:51 PM
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If it passes, they would just make extra short underaged looking characters that go to college but with the exact same personality and cliched archetype as you would get in a highschool/middle school setting.

i think that it's retarded that they would just change the highschool to college.
by the way i'm not fan of lolicon so i don't really care for it but i really don't like that bills like these would pass.
Sep 1, 2013 11:40 PM

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TassadarV said:
If it passes, they would just make extra short underaged looking characters that go to college but with the exact same personality and cliched archetype as you would get in a highschool/middle school setting.


I feel the above would be the inevitable. I don't like lolicon or shotacon. I would be happy if it gets banned. Something about sexualizing young girls or boys doesn't sit right with me. I don't like the idea that it's okay because it is "art" or a "cartoon" so it makes it okay... If the people who like it are well over 18 and they are fantasizing and imagining sexual acts with children(getting a kick out of watching it)...

I feel some of you may think of lolicon as "just" young cute girls or just a "style". Nope that is closer to moe(young girls being cute ect)... If you are in denial look it up it. It's a sexual facination/interest in prepubescent, pubescent, or post-pubescent children.
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Sep 1, 2013 11:56 PM
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Chibiginger said:


Cartoons are for children anyway, we should just ban watching anime for those over eighteen.
Sep 2, 2013 12:15 AM

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agaffe said:
Chibiginger said:


Cartoons are for children anyway, we should just ban watching anime for those over eighteen.


So you are in support of sexaulization of children or child porn? Your comment is out of context and rather "defensive". I will take it as you were offended and reacted with emotion.
Sep 2, 2013 12:22 AM
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Chibiginger said:
So you are in support of sexaulization of children or child porn?


Not really, but the bill does nothing about children. Getting rid of something, just because you don't like it, doesn't make sense. If that were right, it would be pretty easy for something like adult consumption of a media, thought to be juvenile, to be taken away.

Don't accuse people who don't agree with you as being paedophiles.
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agaffe said:
Chibiginger said:
So you are in support of sexaulization of children or child porn?


Not really, but the bill does nothing about children. Getting rid of something, just because you don't like it doesn't make sense. If that were right, it would be pretty easy for something like adult consumption of a media, thought to be juvenile, to be taken away.

Don't accuse people who don't agree with you as being paedophiles.


Did I once say the word "pedophile" besides the question I am asking you? You are assuming things. I merely was stating part of the definition for lolicon. The definition of pedophile is actually "A person 16 years of age or older typically characterized by a primary or exclusive sexual interest toward prepubescent children". Not all people interested in lolicon "are" pedophiles lol(very few are as they have an exclusive interest in "just" cartoons). The honest truth is though that lolicon/hentai is an outlet that fuels those that are. Obsessive people search for the only/few outlet they can find their loved taboo. Hardly do I expect people to quit liking it or expect it to disappear with a ban, but I do not like anything that promotes the "sexual interest" of little children. If I could and had the power I would banish child pornography and depictions of it in cartoons from the world(not all lolicon is pornographic, but it does sexually depict children to a very extreme extent). My ideas are not "realistic" but my opinion is based on my trade and interests. I'm very protective over children.

I don't think the ban will get rid of it, but It would make it less easy to access to the general or unseeking public. So I would rather see it banned.

For fear of derailing the topic this will be my last reply. I'm sorry if I frustrated you. My opinion is just very strong on this subject.
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Chibiginger said:


It seems I misconstrued what you meant by "lolicon", though I'm not sure how someone supporting child porn could be anything but a paedophile.

Chibiginger said:
For fear of derailing the topic this will be my last reply. I'm sorry if I frustrated you. My opinion is just very strong on this subject.


Fair enough
Sep 2, 2013 1:06 AM

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Mclovinballs said:
I'm torn between this, while I don't like censoring, I would love to see less child porn lolis.
Please learn about cel animation and its technical process.
Learn how special effects and backlighting were done without computers.

Sep 2, 2013 6:06 AM

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I'll cry and kill everyone I know.
Sep 2, 2013 7:07 AM

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The only manly way out, suicide.
Sep 2, 2013 8:26 AM

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You know what I don't think I would mind. Then we'd get more decent romance shows without all the ecchi bullshit. We need some more wholesome romance.
Sep 2, 2013 8:27 AM

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I'll cry and kill everyone I know.

Start by yourself.
Sep 2, 2013 8:30 AM
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2-D said:
You know what I don't think I would mind. Then we'd get more decent romance shows without all the ecchi bullshit. We need some more wholesome romance.

I think the fact that loli characters are by default thought of as being purely fanservice/side characters without even having anything to do with the "wholesome romance" department is the main problem if so.
Sep 2, 2013 2:57 PM

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B-but... I like underage hentai.... *kills*

And why is romcom included?
Sep 2, 2013 2:58 PM

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Sep 2, 2013 3:04 PM

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In my opinion
They're all fake animated characters so who gives a fuck its not real porn or anything like that so why would it matter if explicit images were shown, just search the internet and you'll find yourself drowning in the shit
Sep 2, 2013 3:30 PM

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Well i prefer highschool and up anyway so it doesn't bother me.
Sep 2, 2013 4:51 PM

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"Let's protect those poor fictional "children" from the dirty semen-caked hands of those nasty lolicon shutins instead of doing anything about the real children being used in those junior idol stuff!"
Sep 2, 2013 6:03 PM

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I hope this doesn't make anime too censored.
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VanishingKira said:
So when does the voting for this bill start/end?


If you have to ask, your vote probably won't be eligible.
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Gogetters said:
"Let's protect those poor fictional "children" from the dirty semen-caked hands of those nasty lolicon shutins instead of doing anything about the real children being used in those junior idol stuff!"

B-but the poor pixels..
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VanishingKira said:
So when does the voting for this bill start/end?


Later this Fall when the Diet comes into session.


Sep 2, 2013 7:21 PM

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No more lolis please. No more. Get rid of them all.
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Sep 2, 2013 7:22 PM

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Harutora said:
No more lolis please. No more. Get rid of them all.
Why?
Lolis > Everything
Sep 2, 2013 7:24 PM

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Harutora said:
No more lolis please. No more. Get rid of them all.


But the otaku will start raping real kids if there are no lolis, you'll have an even worse version of what's going on in India.


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