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pikagrue said: Monster's Inc got it wrong. They could power a continent with the sheer amount of mad and denial generated in the oreimo ending threads. That,sir, is an awesome statement that made me laugh. But it's justified. Incest is, well incest, and the end could actually be good, but it's the way it's presented that fuels the hatred. |
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Hakunamatataa said: So even the author is conforting himself when he confirms it? Seriously, you calling a fictional character "bitch" and writing such a nonsense is ridiculous. I appreciate Kuroneko and all the others who lost. But you are like an irrational 12 year old kid. Let me show you what you're arguing with: http://i.imgur.com/JN1QQUM.png http://i.imgur.com/S9PxWc6.png http://i.imgur.com/4LAkb6m.png He's so beyond buttmad, no amount of arguing will quell the tears. |
| >Yosuga no Sora avatar And we aren't arguing, we're having fun.  But you love Yuru Yuri so it's okay. |
ThisIsDK said: Hakunamatataa said: So even the author is conforting himself when he confirms it? Seriously, you calling a fictional character "bitch" and writing such a nonsense is ridiculous. I appreciate Kuroneko and all the others who lost. But you are like an irrational 12 year old kid. Let me show you what you're arguing with: http://i.imgur.com/JN1QQUM.png http://i.imgur.com/S9PxWc6.png http://i.imgur.com/4LAkb6m.png He's so beyond buttmad, no amount of arguing will quell the tears. Some call it buttmad, some call it dedication xD |
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Aenigma66 said: ThisIsDK said: Hakunamatataa said: So even the author is conforting himself when he confirms it? Seriously, you calling a fictional character "bitch" and writing such a nonsense is ridiculous. I appreciate Kuroneko and all the others who lost. But you are like an irrational 12 year old kid. Let me show you what you're arguing with: http://i.imgur.com/JN1QQUM.png http://i.imgur.com/S9PxWc6.png http://i.imgur.com/4LAkb6m.png He's so beyond buttmad, no amount of arguing will quell the tears. Some call it buttmad, some call it dedication xD Or some call it having a "facade". |
Sairyuu69 said: >Yosuga no Sora avatar And? Aenigma66 said: Some call it buttmad, some call it dedication xD I call it hilarious. |
| Manami vs Kirino was great I'm glad Manami punched her and told them how she felt. Kyousuke doesn't deserve Kuroneko |
| I correct myself - overdedication. |
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ThisIsDK said: Sairyuu69 said: >Yosuga no Sora avatar And? Aenigma66 said: Some call it buttmad, some call it dedication xD I call it hilarious. Saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame. Reactions on that thread are hilarious, like you somewhat stalking me. I like it. Feed me moar. Also your pal disconnected, so if at least you want to sound serious, PM him, haha. |
BattousaiLuffy said: Manami vs Kirino was great I'm glad Manami punched her and told them how she felt. Kyousuke doesn't deserve Kuroneko Word. He really doesn't deserve this show's best girl. |
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Sairyuu69 said: like you somewhat stalking me. I like it. Feed me moar. I got those images a long time ago, when that conversation was right on your profile. No stalking necessary, don't flatter yourself. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=605235&show=340#msg22377413 |
Komandos said: 7Aenigma66 said: Some call it buttmad, some call it dedication xD Some says he can break Manami's glasses with a flip of his ears, and that his ring-tone is a Maschera's ED1. But all that is true is he's a DIE-HARD KURONEKO FAN :-) As for Yosuga no Sora - wincest can be done ! Get over with it. If someone says he can't - he's just lazy. Yosuga no Sora was good from what I've actually been expecting, yes. And huh no if i had to choose a ringtone it'd be jenova synthesis ThisIsDK said: I got those images a long time ago, when that conversation was right on your profile. No stalking necessary, don't flatter yourself. I know, since this isn't my current display picture. But you still had fun screenshoting me. And whose tears? |
PsychedeliciousAug 18, 2013 12:17 PM
| ah, finally it's over. I'm glad i've read the LN first and also the interview with the author before watching this specials, made me understand more about the real message in the very last scene on this episode. the only thing that made me disappointed was they omitted the scene where Kirino asked Kyousuke to buy her another ring in Akihabara, probably a Meruru ring iirc. Personally i think this scene could explain more about their real feelings (and their relationship) after they became a normal siblings.. oh well, overall this show was amazing, OreImo is definitely one of my fav LN/anime. I'm gonna miss all those great characters (yes, Manami included) KyosukexKirino FTW PikkoPikko said: I thought it was pretty alright Didnt get the ending i wanted but thats fine. I liked all the girls for the most part and the developments were interesting enough to keep me entertained. I was asked to make some gifs by a friend and i thought i should share em with ya ill do more if you want me to thanks, would be great if you can share more of these GIFs! |
ChoroshiAug 18, 2013 12:19 PM
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Choroshi said: ah, finally it's over. I'm glad i've read the LN first and also the interview with the author before watching this specials, made me understand more about the real message in the very last scene on this episode. Could u give a link to the interview, so that I probaly geht the real message of this last scene too? |
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| Manami vs. Kirino cat fight was the best thing about the special. So freaking intense. Otherwise, I can't believe they really pulled off the incest route. Oh well, it was kinda fun to watch anyways. |
 Thanks, person who gave me this on another site a long time ago, lol. |
| I'm feeling a little less harsh toward this ending now that I heard about the author's comments, saying that "Kyousuke and Kirino now carry a new secret", but I'm still angry and confused by the dickish nature of the both of them, running around claiming to be a couple, publicly to their friends, and, in the process, damaging all the relationships developed throughout the series. If they were going to be together, in secret, why declare it publicly to begin with? Why hurt so many of their supposedly cherished friends in the process? Why not just "be together" and not tell ANYONE? None of those moments in these OVAs make any sense if that's the ending they were heading toward. It's just plain cruel the way they treated Kuroneko, Ayase, and especially Manami if they were going to keep it an ongoing secret. I just... don't get it. The writing is just plain bad. It doesn't make sense, and it's just bad. Also, say what you want, but Kirino is a bitch. I stuck with her through season one, waiting for the REASON why she was so mean to nearly everyone. Then they revealed it. And then she actually seemed to have some character growth at the end of the season. I was pleased, eager for season two. Then season two came. And she was RIGHT back to being a bitch again! And she remained a bitch throughout the rest of the show, especially in moments of these OVAs. Her horrible attitude and unchanging behavior, even after EVERYTHING that had happened during the show, really hurts my opinion of her, and makes me question why Kyousuke would be so hurtful to EVERY other female in the show purely to "be" with Kirino, the bitch. Again, I don't get it. I just don't. Hell, her unchanging behavior negates almost the entire reason for the show to exist in the first place. It almost destroys my investment in the series when it seems like all of the events that happened throughout had no effect on her personality. Why bother if she remains a bitch no matter what? That just screams bad writing to me, and I feel horrible saying that cuz I loved the show, as a whole, so much until this bad, bad ending. Uggg... |
| Lol i swear this dude Kyousuke is to funny xD, boy overdoes everything. Good show i'll miss it xD |
| I Hate Kyosuke :)...he's so idiot, dang... Btw Worst Final ever...i've wasted my time watching this series... |
Thelight52 said: Btw Worst Final ever...i've wasted my time watching this series... Well, the series as such was great, it's just that the ending sucks big time. |
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| Please someone free me from this confusion PLEASE. They promise each other at Christmas Eve that they were to become normal siblings after Graduation. They were mostly likely talking about Kyousuke's HS Graduation and Kirino's Middle School Graduation. At Graduation day they had a fight with Manami. Why did this happen? Why didn't they tell Manami that he was going to divorce her that day? SO CONFUSED. SOMEONE EXPLAIN THIS |
Eljero said: wow, awful ending. Ruined the show for me. Yeah, I know what you mean. :( |
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Komandos said: DestinedHero said: If they were going to be together, in secret, why declare it publicly to begin with? Why hurt so many of their supposedly cherished friends in the process? Why not just "be together" and not tell ANYONE? None of those moments in these OVAs make any sense if that's the ending they were heading toward. It's just plain cruel the way they treated Kuroneko, Ayase, and especially Manami if they were going to keep it an ongoing secret. I have an answer to that. They're still kids. And main problem with dealing with kids is they're unaware of being a kids. Assuming they know everything, not caring about their friends - that's how kids do it, not fully grown adults. In the end, Kyousuke gonna wake up and find he just lost 2 years and >3 opportunities to create a good relationship. My personal opinion: Kyousuke - he's still a child. He could've chosen Manami, Ayase or Kuroneko. But no, he chose the only option that would NOT let him advance into adulthood. Go out for real ? no. Explore sexuality ? no. Pretend to be a couple while do nothing but play eroge ? Yes ! <- that's what he thought and did in the end. Retard of the year. Retard of the year? You should watch Tomodachi. Kodaka would be the retard of the year lol. But I love the anime. I don't see why so much hate on Oreimo. I thought it was developed that Harems would have endings like these. Tragic endings where the main character gets no girl. |
logan99 said: Choroshi said: ah, finally it's over. I'm glad i've read the LN first and also the interview with the author before watching this specials, made me understand more about the real message in the very last scene on this episode. Could u give a link to the interview, so that I probaly geht the real message of this last scene too? http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51398941.html So like i pasted earlier: http://i.imgur.com/zddm8uW.png It seems that publisher is the reason that we got this half-assed incest ending |
worthless the pledges, all vows but lies... |
Aenigma66 said: Thelight52 said: Btw Worst Final ever...i've wasted my time watching this series... Well, the series as such was great, it's just that the ending sucks big time. Unfortunately they can't be separated. This ending is a large part of the definition of this franchise, leaving a mixed bag at best. Just knowing the ending caps the enjoyment level of the first season. The author lost his way. It's a real shame. |
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shigeru212 said: Unfortunately they can't be separated. This ending is a large part of the definition of this franchise, leaving a mixed bag at best. Just knowing the ending caps the enjoyment level of the first season. The author lost his way. It's a real shame. This /\ |
diamondketo said: I thought it was developed that Harems would have endings like these. Tragic endings where the main character gets no girl. No way. Harem anime is meant to be enjoyable like To-Love-Ru Darkness or Korezom. The genre is about enjoyment even at the cost of realism. The specials were about realism at the cost of enjoyment. It's totally the opposite of good harem anime. |
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Komandos said: diamondketo said: Tragic endings where the main character gets no girl. Well, here we get new type of tragic ending. Pairing with a girl (sister) in a fake relationship, blocking any advance on other girls while not allowing to any progress with the main girl. Can it get even worse ? :-) Well first have you forgive the incest parts? If you gone through that realize this. 1. They knew that society will never ever accept them as a couple 2. They had 3 months to spend together. Within those 3 months they experienced their love for each other. They explained how much they love each other. Which in the end it help them cope the forbidden love. Limited Love is better than Never. 3. Their life had not ended. They end up being normal siblings. You can guess the rest of the story but the author might not do it (he said there will be a bonus novel showing what happened 10 years later). *Edit to not double post* shigeru212 said: diamondketo said: I thought it was developed that Harems would have endings like these. Tragic endings where the main character gets no girl. No way. Harem anime is meant to be enjoyable like To-Love-Ru Darkness or Korezom. The genre is about enjoyment even at the cost of realism. The specials were about realism at the cost of enjoyment. It's totally the opposite of good harem anime. Well that is reality. I don't think he lost his enjoyment of life. Everything basically gone back to normal. The anime group can hang out again. Kyousuke probably still would go to Manami's house (they are in college now). I see that everything went back to normal. I also see that Kyousuke x Kirino wanted to experience what happened if they love each other. They didn't want to die not knowing. |
diamondketoAug 18, 2013 1:04 PM
shigeru212 said: Aenigma66 said: Thelight52 said: Btw Worst Final ever...i've wasted my time watching this series... Well, the series as such was great, it's just that the ending sucks big time. Unfortunately they can't be separated. This ending is a large part of the definition of this franchise, leaving a mixed bag at best. Just knowing the ending caps the enjoyment level of the first season. The author lost his way. It's a real shame. I wouldn't say he lost his way. I recall him actually mentioning that in his mind the ending is in fact a "Kirino end", which was his plan from the start. Japan's print and media restrictions are probably to blame for the ending's apparent ambiguity, but if the author's own testimony is of any worth, we can assume that Kirino and Kyosuke continue on with their "interesting" relationship in secret even after the story's official end. I believe someone in this thread actually sourced the author's quote about this, but I'm on a phone right now and can't easily search for it, sorry about that. @diamondketo: Unfortunately, the 10 years later bonus chapter is filler featuring Kirino and Kuroneko's younger sister. |
PentobarbidollAug 18, 2013 1:08 PM
Ghost-Lightning said: shigeru212 said: Aenigma66 said: Thelight52 said: Btw Worst Final ever...i've wasted my time watching this series... Well, the series as such was great, it's just that the ending sucks big time. Unfortunately they can't be separated. This ending is a large part of the definition of this franchise, leaving a mixed bag at best. Just knowing the ending caps the enjoyment level of the first season. The author lost his way. It's a real shame. I wouldn't say he lost his way. I recall him actually mentioning that in his mind the endig is in fact a "Kirino end", which was his plan from the start. Japan's print and media restrictions are probably to blame for the ending's apparent ambiguity, but if the author's own testimony is of any worth, we can assume that Kirino and Kyosuke continue on with their "interesting" relationship in secret even after the story's official ending. I believe someone in this thread actually sourced the author's quote about this, but I'm on a phone right now and can't easily search for it, sorry about that. My problem isn't with the Kirino end. My problem is with the subversion of the harem genre, with the subversion of the idea of entertainment over realism, with the abandonment of some of the potent themes of season 1, all for a wishy-washy romantic conclusion. That's why the author lost his way. He could have had a Kirino end, perhaps even more of an Kirino end than this, and still kept the aforementioned ideas, still kept the MC connected to his potential love interests. Instead he destroyed relationships and served up a romance that isn't even lukewarm. This show has a lot of wasted potential. |
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logan99 said: Choroshi said: ah, finally it's over. I'm glad i've read the LN first and also the interview with the author before watching this specials, made me understand more about the real message in the very last scene on this episode. Could u give a link to the interview, so that I probaly geht the real message of this last scene too? ah sorry i should've written my previous comment more clearly, what i mean is that there are few hints in the LN that may give you some answer about their interactions in the last scene (http://www.baka-tsuki.org/project/index.php?title=Ore_no_Im%C5%8Dto_ga_Konna_ni_Kawaii_Wake_ga_Nai:Volume_12_Epilogue), the interview itself doesn't really talk about that, but it somehow explained the reason why the author decided to make Kirino and Kyousuke ended up as normal siblings again.. enraged said: http://blog.livedoor.jp/geek/archives/51398941.html So like i pasted earlier: http://i.imgur.com/zddm8uW.png It seems that publisher is the reason that we got this half-assed incest ending thanks, i'll just add another source : http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4723516&postcount=3568 http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4729794&postcount=3882 |
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| I have to say this was really awesome anime, only if the Kyosuke would have ended with Kuroneko it would have been perfect. But you know, you can't always get everything you want. Still one of my favorite shows. |
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BunnerzAug 18, 2013 1:24 PM
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| I've heard that originally the end was supposed to be their "marriage" but to avoid censorship, critics and blablabla the author opted to play the "let us end the dream" card. Anyway I feel bad for manami, she invested 10yrs of pampering the guy and in the end she loses a friend and a pair of glasses. So for the ones raging about the loss (friendship bonds, a lot of cute girls) I do hope that knowing the origial intention of the author can ease your minds. He gets his sister, the end. You can even use some software to cut the anime before they break up (laughs). |
SousukeARX7Aug 18, 2013 1:30 PM
SousukeARX7 said: I've heard that originally the end was supposed to be their "marriage" but to avoid censorship, critics and blablabla the author opted to play the "let us end the dream" card. Anyway I feel bad for manami, she invested 10yrs of pampering the guy and in the end she loses a friend and a pair of glasses. So for the ones raging about the loss (friendship bonds, a lot of cute girls) I do hope that knowing the origial intention of the author can easy your minds. He gets his sister, the end. You can even use some software to cut the anime before they break up (laughs). That would relieve me but do you have a link or proof? Sadly in the end it was written. Damn critics. |
| What's up with people looking for happy ever after ending that's just lame as hell. Might as well go watch some Disney this ending is awesome |
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diamondketo said: SousukeARX7 said: I've heard that originally the end was supposed to be their "marriage" but to avoid censorship, critics and blablabla the author opted to play the "let us end the dream" card. Anyway I feel bad for manami, she invested 10yrs of pampering the guy and in the end she loses a friend and a pair of glasses. So for the ones raging about the loss (friendship bonds, a lot of cute girls) I do hope that knowing the origial intention of the author can easy your minds. He gets his sister, the end. You can even use some software to cut the anime before they break up (laughs). That would relieve me but do you have a link or proof? Sadly in the end it was written. Damn critics. Not sure if this is what you're looking for: http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost.php?p=4723516&postcount=3568 The actual page with the author's statements is in Japanese so no real point in linking it, but you can find a link in this thread one page before this one. |
PentobarbidollAug 18, 2013 1:38 PM
| So after all that, they break it off. Hearts are broken, and they play it off like it was a dream. All while not resolving what happens afterwards with the other girls. Kyousuke could have told Manami what was really going on, but no, he just lets her and Kirino smack each other around while stomping all over her feelings she's kept inside all those years. It's as if M. Night Shyamalan helped with this ending. SousukeARX7 said: It doesn't really matter what the original intention of the author was. If there were rules/laws he had to follow, then follow it. Don't use that as an excuse to make a silly ending.I've heard that originally the end was supposed to be their "marriage" but to avoid censorship, critics and blablabla the author opted to play the "let us end the dream" card. Anyway I feel bad for manami, she invested 10yrs of pampering the guy and in the end she loses a friend and a pair of glasses. So for the ones raging about the loss (friendship bonds, a lot of cute girls) I do hope that knowing the origial intention of the author can ease your minds. He gets his sister, the end. You can even use some software to cut the anime before they break up (laughs). The last 5 minutes of this ep was essentially saying "YOU GOT TROLLED - THIS WAS ALL A JOKE LOL" All the buildup and rejections were unnecessary. Kyousuke rejected everyone else for what purpose? So he and Kirino can play lovers until they graduate? What kind of BS is that? This is worse than your typical open harem ending since Kyousuke showed what a douche he is for breaking everyone's heart and not ending up with anybody. |
YveseAug 18, 2013 2:10 PM
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dragonshade said: yeah breaking his relationships with every girl chasing him + the "strong love" that there was between him and his sis surely is an awesome ending.What's up with people looking for happy ever after ending that's just lame as hell. Might as well go watch some Disney this ending is awesome |
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SousukeARX7 said: So for the ones raging about the loss (friendship bonds, a lot of cute girls) I do hope that knowing the origial intention of the author can ease your minds. He gets his sister, the end. You can even use some software to cut the anime before they break up (laughs). It's about the journey not the destination. The problem isn't the Kirino end but how we got there. Anyway, I'm tired of hearing about censorship. The author could have written a much sweeter ending that wouldn't have violated censorship laws and would have given Kirino fans something to think about. It's not like this ending is a full Kirino end anyway. Instead, he chose to submit substandard work that ignored or even conflicted with his previous ideas and themes. |
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| Just pretending the show ended at the kiss scene ; w ; |
 Where does the signature lead to? better find out ! ~If you have time to plan out a beautiful death...Why don't you take the time to plan a beautiful life till the very end? |
dragonshade said: What's up with people looking for happy ever after ending that's just lame as hell. Might as well go watch some Disney this ending is awesome I salute to this. Anyways I really don't understand why people are thinking this as a sad ending. I see it as a happy ending. I do wish they end it with a party with everyone. But like many anime..that ain't going to happen. |
| The fight scene was pretty brutal considering it was a series like Oreimo! Not quite the ending I expected, but not a waste either. |
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