OGHelios said: Haha it's all good to be a fan and defend your team. Didn't mean to be offensive or anything. But you gotta face facts: Lebron isn't as good as MJ, or even Kobe, YET. Can he be better? That's up for time to decide. I can fully agree with everything you said. |
Verdale said: Gunbladewarrior said: Verdale said: futaro said: And I wasn't saying that. That'd be rude to the dozens of HoFers who retired without NBA rings who I think are better than Lebron Hopefully Nash will get one before he retires, otherwise he'll be another HoFer without a ring. As much as I hate the Lakers and I don't want Dwight getting an instant win, I also respect Nash and really wish them luck because of it. You wouldn't say that if Dwight were in Chicago.>.> Nonsense, I was one of many people here against bringing Dwight to Chicago. This city is all work and no play, and Dwight lacks the kind of dedication and discipline that Thibodeau and the fans expect. I think he's a great star, but I don't want him on my team, especially if it means breaking up the guys which have done so much for us. This has to be the most insane post i've read since whenever Alex last posted... 3x DPOY(should have bwwn 4 straight) 4× NBA rebounding champion 2× NBA blocks leader 4× NBA All-Defensive First Team He's been top 1-5 in rebounds and blocks for almost 5 years. On top of that he's averaged 20ppg, and 10rpg 4 out of the last 5 years. It could also be argued that he should have won the MVP in the 2010-11 season. How you can say a guy that's done all of this lacks dedication and discipline is beyond me. You put Dwight on the Bulls, they instantly become the favorites. |
GunbladewarriorOct 24, 2012 8:39 PM
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| Gunblade, you obviously didn't get what I was trying to say. I'm not talking about how much of a beast he is on the floor, I'm talking about his approach to the game and his organization. He goofed off in Orlando half the time, constantly complained and uses the media as his outlet. I don't like players like him, I'd rather have the quiet and modest Deng-type, who does everything he can to help the team. |
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| It's easy for Deng to be quiet, and modest. He doesn't get half the exposure that Howard does. The only time goofing off is a problem to me is when the player doesn't produce on the court. Dwight does that. He gives you everything he has, and doesn't quit on the court. Outside of maybe Tim Duncan, those type of superstars don't exist. |
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Gunbladewarrior said: Outside of maybe Tim Duncan, those type of superstars don't exist. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are also two superstars that don't abuse the media, as well as Nash. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have them over Melo, BronBron, and Dwight anyday. The same story goes with Allen Iverson, the dude was a beast on the floor and had plenty of stats and awards to back him up, but never won a ring and was a total hassle to his team and the media. |
VerdaleOct 25, 2012 7:26 AM
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| David Stern is going to retire by next season on February 1, 2014. I don't know about anyone else but I'm sure going to miss his trolling. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8550645/david-stern-retire-nba-commissioner-2014 |
TravSavage said: David Stern is going to retire by next season on February 1, 2014. I don't know about anyone else but I'm sure going to miss his trolling. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8550645/david-stern-retire-nba-commissioner-2014 why is it that i can't bring myself around to believe this |
| A match made in heaven set the fires in hell |
TravSavage said: I'll miss the trolling as well, but I can't wait to see what will happen afterwards with the new commish.David Stern is going to retire by next season on February 1, 2014. I don't know about anyone else but I'm sure going to miss his trolling. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8550645/david-stern-retire-nba-commissioner-2014 |
sparkedgloryOct 25, 2012 4:08 PM
Verdale said: Gunbladewarrior said: Outside of maybe Tim Duncan, those type of superstars don't exist. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are also two superstars that don't abuse the media, as well as Nash. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have them over Melo, BronBron, and Dwight anyday. The same story goes with Allen Iverson, the dude was a beast on the floor and had plenty of stats and awards to back him up, but never won a ring and was a total hassle to his team and the media. The same Nash that has never sniffed the NBA Finals? Go ahead. How exactly did Howard "abuse" the media? |
GunbladewarriorOct 25, 2012 4:23 PM
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Verdale said: Not really a fair comparison considering they've been in the league shorter than any of the so called drama queens.Gunbladewarrior said: Outside of maybe Tim Duncan, those type of superstars don't exist. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are also two superstars that don't abuse the media, as well as Nash. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have them over Melo, BronBron, and Dwight anyday. The same story goes with Allen Iverson, the dude was a beast on the floor and had plenty of stats and awards to back him up, but never won a ring and was a total hassle to his team and the media. But Nash is a great guy. :> |
| Quick question guys, I have been watching nba games via online illegal steams for a couple of years but this year I am thinking of getting the nba pass. First question: is it America only or can I still watch it in the uk? second does it include the playoffs or just regular season? and can I watch it on my android phone? |
Nabi123Oct 25, 2012 4:55 PM
TravSavage said: David Stern is going to retire by next season on February 1, 2014. I don't know about anyone else but I'm sure going to miss his trolling. http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/8550645/david-stern-retire-nba-commissioner-2014 BEST.....NEWS.....ALL....YEAR!!!! |
Gunbladewarrior said: Verdale said: Gunbladewarrior said: Outside of maybe Tim Duncan, those type of superstars don't exist. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are also two superstars that don't abuse the media, as well as Nash. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have them over Melo, BronBron, and Dwight anyday. The same story goes with Allen Iverson, the dude was a beast on the floor and had plenty of stats and awards to back him up, but never won a ring and was a total hassle to his team and the media. The same Nash that has never sniffed the NBA Finals? Go ahead. How exactly did Howard "abuse" the media? If you have to ask, you haven't been paying attention to anything going on for the last few years. Unless you consider his drama, complaining, and shit talking of coaches and other players acceptable behavior and appropriate use of media time, then I guess he deserves a gold star in that book. |
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Verdale said: Gunbladewarrior said: Verdale said: Gunbladewarrior said: Outside of maybe Tim Duncan, those type of superstars don't exist. Derrick Rose and Kevin Durant are also two superstars that don't abuse the media, as well as Nash. Call me crazy, but I'd rather have them over Melo, BronBron, and Dwight anyday. The same story goes with Allen Iverson, the dude was a beast on the floor and had plenty of stats and awards to back him up, but never won a ring and was a total hassle to his team and the media. The same Nash that has never sniffed the NBA Finals? Go ahead. How exactly did Howard "abuse" the media? If you have to ask, you haven't been paying attention to anything going on for the last few years. Unless you consider his drama, complaining, and shit talking of coaches and other players acceptable behavior and appropriate use of media time, then I guess he deserves a gold star in that book. I've been paying attention. Enough attention to know that you're wrong when you said it's been going on for a few years. The whole thing with Dwight didn't start until 2011. That's hardly a few years. Sh*t talking other players? What the balls are you talking about? And it's not as if he called a press conference every week to complain about something. You do realize that you can't rely on everything the media reports, right? This is the same media that reported that Dwight wouldn't be ready to play until Dec, or January. |
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| BREAKING NEWS: Lebron James has given up chasing MJ's GOAT title. He has instead opted to create his own category: BOAT BEST of luck to him! |
| What does BOAT stand for? :o |
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Gunbladewarrior said: What does BOAT stand for? :o "Best of All time" maybe? Who cares. The season starts in T-minus 91 hours! Can't wait to see that banner go up into the rafters and all those guys get their rings! GO HEAT!!! |
JavierR said: Gunbladewarrior said: What does BOAT stand for? :o best of all time <__< MJ has copyrighted that as well. LAKESHOW!!! |
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| THUNDER!!!!! ...oh and go pistons |
| A match made in heaven set the fires in hell |
| KINGS!!! ... ... ... I'll just show myself out... |
| KNICKS!!!! The power of senior citizens FTW! |
| Bucks... They dont deserve special lettering |
| WOW!!! Thunder trade Harden to the Rockets! |
| I think that was premature. |
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baboon said: Bucks... They dont deserve special lettering LoL! sparkedglory said: KINGS!!! ... ... ... I'll just show myself out... At least they have Cousins. He is a beast. |
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JustALEX said: Thunder trade Harden to the Rockets! "Harden rejected a four-year offer that would have paid him a base salary of $53 million to $54 million, league sources said" .. from yahoo article I wonder what he thinks hes going to get in free agency if hes turning that down. |
baboon said: JustALEX said: Thunder trade Harden to the Rockets! "Harden rejected a four-year offer that would have paid him a base salary of $53 million to $54 million, league sources said" .. from yahoo article I wonder what he thinks hes going to get in free agency if hes turning that down. Supposedly, the Rockets are going to give him $60 million for 4 years! |
| Gonna miss the beard but I like the Rockets since the TMac days so I guess it's not too bad. Plus reading that AMA Darly Morey had on reddit a while back made me like em more too. Do you guys think Harden can develop into that superstar the Rockets are looking for? Is he better than a sixth man? |
| A match made in heaven set the fires in hell |
| GO RAPTORS!!! I think im the only Toronto Raptors fan around here lol |
OGHelios said: Do you guys think Harden can develop into that superstar the Rockets are looking for? Is he better than a sixth man? He can start for alot of the teams in the NBA..... that doesnt exactly mean superstar though. Should be interesting to see him now that he's not with Durant and Westbrook to play off of. |
baboonOct 27, 2012 9:20 PM
| Houston picked up two of the most overhyped players of last season. Good job. OKC needed a big, not more guards. |
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| OKC got 2 1st round picks, I could see them flipping those at the deadline. Also what the hell is Monta Ellis' trade value? |
JustALEX said: Still an incredibly dumb move. He essentially traded a championship level team for a couple million. What an idiot. baboon said: JustALEX said: Thunder trade Harden to the Rockets! "Harden rejected a four-year offer that would have paid him a base salary of $53 million to $54 million, league sources said" .. from yahoo article I wonder what he thinks hes going to get in free agency if hes turning that down. Supposedly, the Rockets are going to give him $60 million for 4 years! Me thinks his beard is messing with his mind. |
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baboon said: OKC got 2 1st round picks, I could see them flipping those at the deadline. Also what the hell is Monta Ellis' trade value? Good question. Probably not as much as Harden. |
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JustALEX said: baboon said: JustALEX said: Thunder trade Harden to the Rockets! "Harden rejected a four-year offer that would have paid him a base salary of $53 million to $54 million, league sources said" .. from yahoo article I wonder what he thinks hes going to get in free agency if hes turning that down. Supposedly, the Rockets are going to give him $60 million for 4 years! If that's true the Rockets will be in deep luxury tax doo-doo without having a single superstar in 2 years. Doubtful they'd even be a playoff team. I wonder if OKC told Harden he'd be traded if he declined the 53mil contract? |
bippo said: JustALEX said: WOW!!! Thunder trade Harden to the Rockets! WHAT!? Trading a ring for a couple of million bucks ... WHAT!? They didn't trade Westbrook or Durant, so they'll be fine. |
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4Sky said: Pretty much, I'd say many people laugh at our home teams more than support it. I hear a Maple Leaf/Blue Jay/Raptors diss like every time sports is brought up, lol.GO RAPTORS!!! I think im the only Toronto Raptors fan around here lol |
Tachii said: 4Sky said: Pretty much, I'd say many people laugh at our home teams more than support it. I hear a Maple Leaf/Blue Jay/Raptors diss like every time sports is brought up, lol.GO RAPTORS!!! I think im the only Toronto Raptors fan around here lol That's very true. The management over the years has sucked big time for all the Toronto-based franchises. I only root for the Raptors because they are always the underdog. I can't stand to watch teams that are expected to be good. I'd rather watch someone weak like the Bobcats throw off the Lakers or something (although that might never happen LOL) About the Harden trade, very good trade for both sides. Thunder don't need a guy who was thinking about stats during the Finals instead of thinking about getting a ring. Hopefully, the Rockets is a good change of scenery for him. As for the Thunder and them getting Kevin Martin and Lamb, pretty good idea. They get a real off the ball swingman who they can rely on when Durant is sucking and a rookie in Lamb they might be able to develop into something good. But there is one thing that they lose with trading Harden is his playmaking ability. He's the only one who can handle the as decently as Westbrook when Maynor was out. Well, I guess Maynor is back but Harden was a proven thing with handling the ball. So if Eric Maynor works out properly for the Thunder then they don't lose out. For now though, they lack clutch time playmaking. |
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| This is it.....We are 20 hours away from the beginning of the Heat's title defense. The key is very simple....STAY HEALTHY! If we do that, we have a good shot at this. Let's end this season the way we ended it on June 21, 2012  |
| Hope Harden likes egg rolls |
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JustALEX said: This is it.....We are 20 hours away from the beginning of the Heat's title defense. The key is very simple....STAY HEALTHY! If we do that, we have a good shot at this. Stay healthy? With brittle Wade on the team, that's unlikely. I'll probably skip the first game on ESPiN. The a** kissing will be ridiculous. |
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Gunbladewarrior said: Stay healthy? With brittle Wade on the team, that's unlikely. I'll probably skip the first game on ESPiN. The a** kissing will be ridiculous. Even if Wade only plays half the season, that's more than good enough in a crappy Eastern Conference to get the #1 seed. Besides, we don't need Wade in the regular season, we have the unanimous greatest basketball player on this planet on our team, I'm sure we'll manage :-) |
--ALEX--Oct 29, 2012 11:57 PM
| Without Wade, all you gotta do is Give guys like Ray Allen and Norris Cole more minutes and you'll be fine. Besides I think everyone is forgetting how great Wade really is after that subpar playoff performance last year. He's still the second best SG in the league. |
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JustALEX said: Gunbladewarrior said: Stay healthy? With brittle Wade on the team, that's unlikely. I'll probably skip the first game on ESPiN. The a** kissing will be ridiculous. Even if Wade only plays half the season, that's more than good enough in a crappy Eastern Conference to get the #1 seed. Besides, we don't need Wade in the regular season, we have the unanimous greatest basketball player on this planet on our team, I'm sure we'll manage :-) The Heat couldn't get the top seed even when D.Rose was injured most of the season. :/ The East may still be meh compared to the West, but stop acting as if it's a cake walk. MJ came back from retirement and is still in his prime? |
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Gunbladewarrior said: The Heat couldn't get the top seed even when D.Rose was injured most of the season. :/ Yeah, and the Bulls not only had the best record in the East, they had the best record in the NBA! That was different, and Rose still played enough games for the Bulls to remain a powerhouse, now that he's most likely gone the whole year, they're going to see a big decline. This won't be a 60 win team, not even close. Gunbladewarrior said: The East may still be meh compared to the West, but stop acting as if it's a cake walk. I'm not. But you're also acting as if Wade is always injured. He played every single game in the Playoffs last year, and of the 66 regular season games, he only missed 11. That means that of the 89 games the Heat played last year Wade was there for 78 of them. That's about 88% The person YOU SHOULD worry about being healthy is Dwight! Gunbladewarrior said: MJ came back from retirement and is still in his prime? Are we going to have this discussion every time? As of RIGHT NOW, this very instant......the best basketball player on this planet is Lebron. I know you don't like that, I know you can't stand that, but that's the way it is. |
| Rose missed nearly 30 games last season, and when he first got back he did more harm than good. If the Bulls take a step back it'll be due to losing their bench depth(Asik, Korver, Watson) along with Rose. ------ Yes, you are. He is. Name a season he has played 80 games? And Wade played 49 games last year. Why? With the exception of last year, Dwight has been one of the most durable players ever. Unlike Wade. ---- Because you say it as if everyone agrees with that. I know you don't like that, I know you can't stand that, but that's the way it is. |
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