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| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| Pretty sick chapter. I like how continuing the Grand Magic Games (so Erza, Gray, and Laxus can participate again) serves a purpose now. And did ALL of Natsu's magic get taken away? So now Natsu has to rely on everyone else to win the Games I'm guessing. and Time-Travel plot was to be expected ._. |
| No, he can recover. It didn't seem that dramatic to me. Also they still have 2 days till the match so there's plenty of time to recover. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| I'm still thinking that the current Dragon Slayers are actually from 400 years in the past. OR, the slayers that participated in the games 400 years ago, were actually the current slayers.(Which would explain why the person in the mural fighting the dragon had Natsu's scarf on) There's a lot of complex stuff underlying all the time travel theories, and the time frame that we've followed until now, could be the alternate time frame. My head starts to overload when I think of all the possibilities. Once you throw time travel into the mix, then EVERYTHING that has happened before, could have been altered from the future. Meaning anything that may have seemed weird, or gone unexplained, could be explained now. I wonder if Mashima planned this since the beginning? If so, then there are likely many many clues that we missed. |
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| ^Maybe the DS have traveled FORWARD in time and that's why they were considered over80 years old? Meaning the 7/7-X777 was the day they were transfered from the past to the future and that's why it seemed like their parents abandoned them. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| ^ THIS. That's EXACTLY what I proposed last chapter discussion. It was either last chapter, or chapter 300. |
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| Found it, it's the second post down http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=497453&show=100 So we're thinking alike. Glad I'm not the only one who thought so. |
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| If I could raise my rating for Fairy Tail any higher I definitely would after this chapter!! Time-travel has to be one of the BEST plot devices ever made xD luffydragneel said: I'm still thinking that the current Dragon Slayers are actually from 400 years in the past. OR, the slayers that participated in the games 400 years ago, were actually the current slayers.(Which would explain why the person in the mural fighting the dragon had Natsu's scarf on) There's a lot of complex stuff underlying all the time travel theories, and the time frame that we've followed until now, could be the alternate time frame. My head starts to overload when I think of all the possibilities. Once you throw time travel into the mix, then EVERYTHING that has happened before, could have been altered from the future. Meaning anything that may have seemed weird, or gone unexplained, could be explained now. I wonder if Mashima planned this since the beginning? If so, then there are likely many many clues that we missed. Slightly confusing, but I like this theory!! Or maybe he's just making you think that so you'll go back and re-read the series, hahaha! |
| I'm not a big fan of time travel, so I'm a little worried here. Also, Lucy wasn't captured. She was arrested. |
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| Not digging time travel because of the potential plot holes that will form and it being a weak writing device. |
luffydragneel said: ^ THIS. That's EXACTLY what I proposed last chapter discussion. It was either last chapter, or chapter 300. I just picked up on what you said and it just might fit. Though to be honest I can't agree with the theory that the one on the prhecy-tablet(or w/e that was) IS natsu. Maybe that's the initial Dragon slayer of fire? And the scarf was passed on to Natsu? |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Kanic said: luffydragneel said: ^ THIS. That's EXACTLY what I proposed last chapter discussion. It was either last chapter, or chapter 300. I just picked up on what you said and it just might fit. Though to be honest I can't agree with the theory that the one on the prhecy-tablet(or w/e that was) IS natsu. Maybe that's the initial Dragon slayer of fire? And the scarf was passed on to Natsu? That's also a strong possibility. Maybe his father? I mean Igneel didn't just up and have a kid out of nowhere. Maybe Natsu's parents died in the war and Igneel found him and decided to raise him. Edit : You know, maybe ALL of the current slayers' parents died in that war? |
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| Fail fail fail... omg wtf man so much fail. Natsu just lost his power, anyone notice that fuck man. more problems caused. god dam lol fairy tail always make mains suffer to worst for so long and then have a small come back. it better be better this time around. |
Chimasternmay said: Fail fail fail... omg wtf man so much fail. Natsu just lost his power, anyone notice that fuck man. more problems caused. god dam lol fairy tail always make mains suffer to worst for so long and then have a small come back. it better be better this time around. Then again http://www.mangareader.net/fairy-tail/267/4 this explains why Natsu fainted. He is still a mage after he recovers. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| Time travel was to be expected.No surprise there!Things are moving on!Good chapter! |
| This world...is rotten |
Kanic said: ^Maybe the DS have traveled FORWARD in time and that's why they were considered over80 years old? Meaning the 7/7-X777 was the day they were transfered from the past to the future and that's why it seemed like their parents abandoned them. yeah i think so... I wrote somethiing similar some posts ago but no one seems noticed it XD It could be possible that lucy's mom was used for a past eclipse plan and that she died for fatigue later. And if in the Layla eclipse plan Natsu and other DS were transported 400 yeard in the future? That would explain the ds age problem, the fact that zeref knows a baby natsu, maybe even why dragons know why DKfestival in going to happen "again" in the present (bacause as I said before, DKfestival happened 400year ago will be "transported" in the present) because maybe they arranged this with humans (!?!). |
farfallinaOct 4, 2012 4:30 PM
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| More time travel? Oh great I can only guess what's going to happen. andinb4 they save her. |
| For me, this confirmed the idea that the person in the cloak was Future Lucy. |
Kanic said: luffydragneel said: ^ THIS. That's EXACTLY what I proposed last chapter discussion. It was either last chapter, or chapter 300. I just picked up on what you said and it just might fit. Though to be honest I can't agree with the theory that the one on the prhecy-tablet(or w/e that was) IS natsu. Maybe that's the initial Dragon slayer of fire? And the scarf was passed on to Natsu? I'm starting to think that really is Natsu. It could explain why Zeref knows him (chapter 209). Implying he did go back in time and fought Zeref, but since he(zeref) is still alive Natsu wasn't able to kill him, only to stop and put him in some kind of sleep, that is why Zeref has this confidence in Natsu's power. But i am not really sure of this myself. The thing is, i am not very fond of time travelling, cause it can many times open space to holes in the storyline. So the best think would be if they coulld find another way around this and don't use the eclipse plan at all. Even so, i still think they will use it. |
| Well, ofc there exist plot-holes. Time-travel aint even officially science. Scientists themselves have problems with time paradoxes, you can't expect an author to handle it 100% without any missteps. BUT , on the otherside it is an awesome way to foreshadow great things, cuz you know, they happened, just not yet. Even the almighty Steins-Gate had problems with it but in the end it worked and it became an awesome anime. I, too, was against time-travel back when the hooded girl showed her face to Gerard and the theories began, but if you consider the possible scenarios that might follow you can't but get hyped up. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
macx12 said: Kanic said: ^Maybe the DS have traveled FORWARD in time and that's why they were considered over80 years old? Meaning the 7/7-X777 was the day they were transfered from the past to the future and that's why it seemed like their parents abandoned them. This explanation BY FAR makes the most sense to me. Cause of you think about it, the few times it showed natsu with Igneel it wasn't near civilization or anything, so that could be a clue as well. But if that's true then that would mean that the scenes it's been showing with the dragons are from 400 years ago? If so that would be really interesting. Or this could mean both Natsu and Gajeel are considered to be over 80 years old because they traveled to the past and are over 400 years old. |
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PirateKingz said: macx12 said: Kanic said: ^Maybe the DS have traveled FORWARD in time and that's why they were considered over80 years old? Meaning the 7/7-X777 was the day they were transfered from the past to the future and that's why it seemed like their parents abandoned them. This explanation BY FAR makes the most sense to me. Cause of you think about it, the few times it showed natsu with Igneel it wasn't near civilization or anything, so that could be a clue as well. But if that's true then that would mean that the scenes it's been showing with the dragons are from 400 years ago? If so that would be really interesting. Or this could mean both Natsu and Gajeel are considered to be over 80 years old because they traveled to the past and are over 400 years old. Why the past? How does that tie with everything? They traveled to the past and stayed there and now they have no recollection of who they are? How are they so ageless? And why did they suddenly start aging normally? |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Kanic said: PirateKingz said: macx12 said: Kanic said: ^Maybe the DS have traveled FORWARD in time and that's why they were considered over80 years old? Meaning the 7/7-X777 was the day they were transfered from the past to the future and that's why it seemed like their parents abandoned them. This explanation BY FAR makes the most sense to me. Cause of you think about it, the few times it showed natsu with Igneel it wasn't near civilization or anything, so that could be a clue as well. But if that's true then that would mean that the scenes it's been showing with the dragons are from 400 years ago? If so that would be really interesting. Or this could mean both Natsu and Gajeel are considered to be over 80 years old because they traveled to the past and are over 400 years old. Why the past? How does that tie with everything? They traveled to the past and stayed there and now they have no recollection of who they are? How are they so ageless? And why did they suddenly start aging normally? The same could be said for the future. I'm just predicting it to be the past because it makes far more sense. |
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| And Lucy gets fucked over 3 times in one arc. That's gotta be some kind of record. |
PirateKingz said: The same could be said for the future. I'm just predicting it to be the past because it makes far more sense. Well, at least I gave some reasoning behind it. And I wasn't being aggresive about it ,mind you. It just seems to me that there is no reason for Hiro to take them to the past after existing in the future only to return them again in said future. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
Kanic said: Well, at least I gave some reasoning behind it. And I wasn't being aggresive about it ,mind you. It just seems to me that there is no reason for Hiro to take them to the past after existing in the future only to return them again in said future. There are plenty of reasons for it. The main one is that they need to go back to the past in order to defeat Zeref before he was immortal. This would also answer why Zeref already knew Natsu in Tenrou Island as they had already met in the past. |
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| Macx summed it up for me. Zeref recognising Natsu doesn't negate the possibility that the DS came from 400 years ago(in fact it may empower it) and it doesn't strengthen the future->past->future theory in any particular way. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| It's actually difficult to say who the bad guy is here.. I mean one wants to kill Zeref essentially the root of all evil and conflicts in the world and while that may seem like a good idea I do have to say the other guy is right as well. It's not as if it's going to be a small change but they are making a huge change in history which could possibly drastically alter the present. I mean that's a big part of that whole "time travel" thing for a lot of movies/books/anime and so on. Where someone will have the power to alter history but whether they should or not is really a tough question. They took Lucy into custody though and the Sabertooth chick so that sucks. Although I guess they want to try and make sure they don't try to activate the Eclipse and the old guy is giving them a chance to get an audience with the king on the matter. Bleh who knows how this will work. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
macx12 said: PirateKingz said: macx12 said: Kanic said: ^Maybe the DS have traveled FORWARD in time and that's why they were considered over80 years old? Meaning the 7/7-X777 was the day they were transfered from the past to the future and that's why it seemed like their parents abandoned them. This explanation BY FAR makes the most sense to me. Cause of you think about it, the few times it showed natsu with Igneel it wasn't near civilization or anything, so that could be a clue as well. But if that's true then that would mean that the scenes it's been showing with the dragons are from 400 years ago? If so that would be really interesting. Or this could mean both Natsu and Gajeel are considered to be over 80 years old because they traveled to the past and are over 400 years old. I think the time traveling to the future part makes more sense. If they went back then forward and back again their's too many things to account for. Like: did they lose their memory? what happened to cause them to have to go back? And if it's them going back that's like an infinite loop because if you go to the past from the future to prevent the future fro happening when you come back you witness the result of it. Unless the result was zeref sleeping for 100 years as a result of what natsu did which doesn't correlate because they said the time frame is 400 years, so it makes more sense for the past to future theory because zeref said "you've grown" when he say natsu in chapter 209. Perhaps Natsu was like 4 when he was born in the past and the time-jump made his figurtive age like 400+ years while he only looked 4. Wait, wouldn't this contradict a part of the manga though. If you guys recall Igneel and the other dragons were watching one of Natsu's fight when he was losing badly and at one point I believe Igneel helps him out on the fight somehow. I mean they haven't said anything about dragons being time travelers so how could Igneel have been watching Natsu if not in that present time. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
| ^First things first, what you refer to as help that Natsu recieved happened during the fight with Zero, and it happened only in the anime. It was more of an emotional boost, like what his father would say to him at that momment. Igneel didn't REALLY talk to him. Also, I'm not assuming as part of the theory that igneel raised Natsu during the past. Maybe past igneel sent him in the future and then present igneel raised him there. Aaaanyway, I'm tossing these things out as random guesses, I don't have a clear image on what is to happen nor do I care particularly if any of what I said will come true. My preferances about FT's scenario are different than this theory. It's just funny to come up with stuff every now and then. |
| "But don't cry my friends, we are all the same.Every one of us is a human with "H" capital... and now we are two and one of us has to be shit." -Mr.Freeman |
| Many answered questions, many new possibilities. Let's see how this turns out. I wonder how the Paradox theory will play out in Fairy Tail. Rave handled it in a legendary way. |
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| Well this smells of Gestahl's "let's save the world" crap-talking in FF6 all over again. Everything about this plan smells bad news and I guess that in both cases (The tragedy now and the past then) the characters will end up chosing to not change anything for whatever reason or will end up actually causing it all. Also this is not the first time Mashima used time travel. Its in Rave too...and it never ends well. |
AhenshihaelOct 5, 2012 2:05 AM
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Kanic said: ^First things first, what you refer to as help that Natsu recieved happened during the fight with Zero, and it happened only in the anime. It was more of an emotional boost, like what his father would say to him at that momment. Igneel didn't REALLY talk to him. Also, I'm not assuming as part of the theory that igneel raised Natsu during the past. Maybe past igneel sent him in the future and then present igneel raised him there. Aaaanyway, I'm tossing these things out as random guesses, I don't have a clear image on what is to happen nor do I care particularly if any of what I said will come true. My preferances about FT's scenario are different than this theory. It's just funny to come up with stuff every now and then. Every time we've seen dragons I believe, they're always shown in an ancient-type world with volcanoes and fire. Who knows, maybe there is already an eclipse gate in that era 400 years ago, and possibly Grandine really is Porlyusica and is using it to keep tabs on things. Just one theory. I'm really curious if Natsu's parents were DS from that era. |
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Kanic said: Aaaanyway, I'm tossing these things out as random guesses, I don't have a clear image on what is to happen nor do I care particularly if any of what I said will come true. My preferances about FT's scenario are different than this theory. It's just funny to come up with stuff every now and then. That's a great way to deal with these discussions. We are just assuming things , and no one has a clear idea of what is to happen(only Mashima of course). I wish everyone could think like that to avoid many useless conflicts, cause for me it's really fun to see all these different theories, even if i don't agree with them. |
| Lucy and Yukino trapped together and Natsu getting K.O.'d, sometimes life hates 'em, sometimes life loves 'em. But at the moment, it's clear that the characters are getting close to a tragedy, especially with Lucy and Yukino getting captured together. |
| Seems dangerous to go to the past and interfere. Maybe someone will die or no born in the present. But... So the tournament was to steal magic. Its a fun way to obtain magic. |
| Now its like, its not that the dragons disappeared on that July 7, but Natsu team of DS were the one that disappeared, they disparaged to the future. |
| Time travel sounds interesting. I was surprised that army knight turned out not to be an enemy though. |
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| Wow, I wonder how many assistants Mashima has. |
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| Who's the bad guys here now, and they still haven't shown us who that girl Jellal saw, oh well nice chapter! |
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Mrameez said: Who's the bad guys here now, and they still haven't shown us who that girl Jellal saw, oh well nice chapter! Its called "mystery" The bad guys are either a)Dios and he's just pretending to be good. b)Minister who just appears to be good so far (I highly doubt its him IMO) c)Sabertooth, specifically Minerva and the 2 other jerks. d)That Raven Tail mage that escaped e)Ultimate Troll, Qutro Puppy. You forgot that black creature that left Obra when RT got arrested :P |
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