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Bagonirix said: This isnt going to get better is it? Nope |
 Ok, so Yui has appeared so what secrets does she keep? |
| Love this episode. Its nice to see a calm life-themed episode and as for someone who is interested in sociological and psychological factors of controlled environments, this show for me is all about character psychological insights. I could not care less about fights or etc(which I guess is what 99% if those whining about this was expecting to see). Its utterly fascinating to see the community the game world has developed as well as two socially awkward teenagers being forced to grow up and pondering the questions of adulthood life, like marriage, maternity/paternity, etc. I love this. 5/5 Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: What a wonderful couple. Jesus and Harem Girl#1 really do know eachother so well. Ah! Married life. Can't even look at your wife unless you want a good slap in the face. Yes, this young married couple only feels at home once they adopt a random 10 year old. And Jesus, it was LESS than 24 fucking hours. The kid was also asleep 90% of that time. Another spectacular 1/5 Awww, yet another person who watches with the brain turned off. I guess the fact that both main characters have been built up as VERY socially challenged and detached(irl) people passed right by you as you were REALLY waiting for that new fairy tail episode, eh? Well, what can you do. Better luck paying attention next time. |
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Fai said: Love this episode. Its nice to see a calm life-themed episode and as for someone who is interested in sociological and psychological factors of controlled environments, this show for me is all about character psychological insights. I could not care less about fights or etc(which I guess is what 99% if those whining about this was expecting to see). Its utterly fascinating to see the community the game world has developed as well as two socially awkward teenagers being forced to grow up and pondering the questions of adulthood life, like marriage, maternity/paternity, etc. I love this. 5/5 Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: What a wonderful couple. Jesus and Harem Girl#1 really do know eachother so well. Ah! Married life. Can't even look at your wife unless you want a good slap in the face. Yes, this young married couple only feels at home once they adopt a random 10 year old. And Jesus, it was LESS than 24 fucking hours. The kid was also asleep 90% of that time. Another spectacular 1/5 Awww, yet another person who watches with the brain turned off. I guess the fact that both main characters have been built up as VERY socially challenged and detached(irl) people passed right by you as you were REALLY waiting for that new fairy tail episode, eh? Well, what can you do. Better luck paying attention next time. I dont remember Asuna being portrayed as a socially challenged and detached person in the anime yet.... But anyway he is someone that put Little Busters in his favs before the anime even aired.I guess SAO fanbase isnt the only one that does those kind of things,right? |
| Yui is so obnoxious. I just wanted to punch her. Or have somebody kill her gruesomely. Still crossing my fingers for that... And the relationship between Kirito and Asuna is just so flipping awkward to watch. Jeez, I thought this anime was getting good and now they give me this? |
ssjokg said: I dont remember Asuna being portrayed as a socially challenged and detached person in the anime yet.... But anyway he is someone that put Little Busters in his favs before the anime even aired.I guess SAO fanbase isnt the only one that does those kind of things,right? The very episode Asuna appears portrays her as having trouble communicating with people around her, being awkward around people and introverted in a way as to empathize with herself and only her own problems, as a defensive mechanism. And due to Kirito she is able to move past that barrier, being able to socialize, but so far its quite clear that she still does not really "let people in" on herself or her personality/emotions. So to say, she "takes" emotional response, yet does not really want to give it. Even in her guild it feels like she is more about receiving than opening up. The only person she has a two-way interactions is Kirito, thus it makes sense on why they are still very awkward and yet at the same time very close, when around each other. The social awkwardness both share let them be empathic with each other and that empathic bond is what allows the walls they have around each other to slowly break(the very fact that Asuna is starting to wonder things, empathize with Kirito, something we never saw her do before, shows that). Might be just me and my interest in psychology, though. |
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: LOL, those are funny ironies indeed.  What a wonderful couple. Jesus and Harem Girl#1 really do know eachother so well.  Ah! Married life. Can't even look at your wife unless you want a good slap in the face.  Yes, this young married couple only feels at home once they adopt a random 10 year old. And Jesus, it was LESS than 24 fucking hours. The kid was also asleep 90% of that time. Another spectacular 1/5 I do think it's on purpose though. Considering how fast they jumped into the "marriage" I would rather find it unbelievable if they had a perfect or even a mature relationship. And there's the fact that they are still teens. At this point it's more of a play believe. Kirito was even asking about her real feelings after marrying her. If anything, the situation fits how the romance has developed so far, there's still a lot of room for them to grow up as a couple. |
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Fai said: ssjokg said: I dont remember Asuna being portrayed as a socially challenged and detached person in the anime yet.... But anyway he is someone that put Little Busters in his favs before the anime even aired.I guess SAO fanbase isnt the only one that does those kind of things,right? The very episode Asuna appears portrays her as having trouble communicating with people around her, being awkward around people and introverted in a way as to empathize with herself and only her own problems, as a defensive mechanism. And due to Kirito she is able to move past that barrier, being able to socialize, but so far its quite clear that she still does not really "let people in" on herself or her personality/emotions. So to say, she "takes" emotional response, yet does not really want to give it. Even in her guild it feels like she is more about receiving than opening up. The only person she has a two-way interactions is Kirito, thus it makes sense on why they are still very awkward and yet at the same time very close, when around each other. The social awkwardness both share let them be empathic with each other and that empathic bond is what allows the walls they have around each other to slowly break(the very fact that Asuna is starting to wonder things, empathize with Kirito, something we never saw her do before, shows that). Might be just me and my interest in psychology, though. in the anime at least it wasnt obvious for me that she had problems(at least the same ones Kirito has) But maybe I forgot this because I recently found her family's problems.And I havent read the second eps' novel yet.... |
unj008 said: Can somebody explain the distortion at the end of the episode? I know it's foreshadowing, but I can't wait another 5 days for this!!!! It would be a huge spoiler, i suggest you just endure it, besides it will build up you wanting to watch the next episode XD |
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| Aww what a cute family they are. :3 |
ssjokg said: Fai said: ssjokg said: I dont remember Asuna being portrayed as a socially challenged and detached person in the anime yet.... But anyway he is someone that put Little Busters in his favs before the anime even aired.I guess SAO fanbase isnt the only one that does those kind of things,right? The very episode Asuna appears portrays her as having trouble communicating with people around her, being awkward around people and introverted in a way as to empathize with herself and only her own problems, as a defensive mechanism. And due to Kirito she is able to move past that barrier, being able to socialize, but so far its quite clear that she still does not really "let people in" on herself or her personality/emotions. So to say, she "takes" emotional response, yet does not really want to give it. Even in her guild it feels like she is more about receiving than opening up. The only person she has a two-way interactions is Kirito, thus it makes sense on why they are still very awkward and yet at the same time very close, when around each other. The social awkwardness both share let them be empathic with each other and that empathic bond is what allows the walls they have around each other to slowly break(the very fact that Asuna is starting to wonder things, empathize with Kirito, something we never saw her do before, shows that). Might be just me and my interest in psychology, though. in the anime at least it wasnt obvious for me that she had problems(at least the same ones Kirito has) But maybe I forgot this because I recently found her family's problems.And I havent read the second eps' novel yet.... I suggest you read Aria, i like this anime even with its flaws but i'll admit that it didn't adapt Aria well at all....completely changed their meeting, also if you are wondering more about Asuna's problems then volume 7 (Mothers Rosario) is a key volume in explaining it, since its pretty much her volume (Kirito takes a step back in it) |
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ssjokg said: twonline said: So there are kiddie players in SAO..... And why those front-line players were afraid of Asuna's attacks.... Inner area attacks wouldn't reduce HP.... And as I remember pain is not simulated in SAO.... So nothing to be afraid..... Anyway, Yui is cute.... 3.5/5 Front liners?The ARMY stays in the 1st floor since the 25floor boss if I remember correctly...Numbers aside they must be one of the weakest guilds now.She wont reduce their HP,but she can push them back and players can "feel" pain it's just that its in their minds.Like when Kuradeel was trying to kill Kirito. I don't know about if the frontliners are the correct one, that's what UTW's sub called them. Anyway, in the beginning of episode 1 Kirito explains to Klein that "you will not feel pain in the SAO universe". |
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DarkChaplain said: Arguing like that is pointless. They adapt the side stories, trying to get as much of the novels into the anime as possible = people complain about "fillers" because they don't like their characters to be set up rather than appearing out of the blue. If they didn't adapt the side stories, people would bitch even more, because they'd butcher the fantastic and absolutely perfect novels. We've seen it. so. many. times. If they cut characters and rearrange the story to fit into the anime medium, people call it a failure for being unfaithful to the original. They can't win, can they? They could if the people adapting had a brain. All they had to do was weave the side stories in at the appropriate time, instead of just tossing them all at the beginning for the sake of being lazy when they all stretch across vastly different times and incidents that happened to Kirito. When it's done like that, he changes way too fast [to the point he just seems like he contradicts himself every other episode], and characters are tossed about in such a manner no one can make a strong enough attachment to them because there is no stability to get things settled into place. When Kirito mentioned what happened with Sachi and that guild to Asuna for instance, that should've been the first time we saw that side story. It would've been the perfect time for it. Similarly, just weaving the others in at the appropriate time would've made a huge difference. Basically SAO is like a Star Wars type of story, where you're supposed to start later in the story and THEN go back to read the beginning or side stories at the appropriate time. The way they adapted it was from the beginning first to the end, which is what ruined it. It would be like if you watched Star Wars in chronological order [which I'm sure people do, but still], then you get to some of the later movies and some of the shocking developments [including one of the greatest lines and most recognized lines in movies], suddenly has 0 impact on you. This is what A-1 did to SAO. |
twonline said: ssjokg said: twonline said: So there are kiddie players in SAO..... And why those front-line players were afraid of Asuna's attacks.... Inner area attacks wouldn't reduce HP.... And as I remember pain is not simulated in SAO.... So nothing to be afraid..... Anyway, Yui is cute.... 3.5/5 Front liners?The ARMY stays in the 1st floor since the 25floor boss if I remember correctly...Numbers aside they must be one of the weakest guilds now.She wont reduce their HP,but she can push them back and players can "feel" pain it's just that its in their minds.Like when Kuradeel was trying to kill Kirito. I don't know about if the frontliners are the correct one, that's what UTW's sub called them. Anyway, in the beginning of episode 1 Kirito explains to Klein that "you will not feel pain in the SAO universe". It's a psychological thing.It happens every time,even in the novels.People "feel" pain when they see someone being kicked in the balls,so "feeling" pain when they stab you is logical. |
daleb729 said: iv enjoyed this series up until this episode, i don't mind if they want to get married but the stupid thing is no teenager acts like this when they have a girlfriend/boyfriend and i really don't want to see kids acting like they've been married for 40 years and then they introduce a kid and act like a mother and father WTF and on top of that whats with asuna dressing like a middle age woman. I enjoy character development and romance and i don't need a fight scene every episode but this is a game and the whole point is to beat it not live happily ever after while your lifeless body slowly rots away in the real world. You would be surprised of how seriously teenagers take their relationships.At least in anime I know it's fake so I dont care(hate) that much. And what does Asuna's clothes have to do with the story? " not live happily ever after while your lifeless body slowly rots away in the real world"Thats something they will say in the next 2 eps.(If the studio does not omit it) |
LunaSep 16, 2012 1:22 PM
| @Gash you shouldn't act as if Fairy Tail is some masterpiece, where friendship power triumphs over all and the MC breaks so called established power scales and becomes OP. I like Fairy Tail, but you shouldn't degrade other series in an attempt to make it look better. |
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Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Pondering about adulthood, why not ponder about common sense first. How the fuck do they know eachother for 2 years yet she still doesn't know how old he is. Humans, when put into life death situations for extended periods of time, learn how to cope with their surroundings and end up maturing extremely fast. Asuna and Kirito mature yet after being in such a situation for 2 years. Nope. They are still the same as before the timeskip. Speaking about the real world is taboo.satisfied?I guess not. Oh I am sure you know about life and death situations.And didnt all the 6000 learn to cope with their life in SAO? You should know that if you paid any attention to the show. |
Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: Ajunky said: Gash_V-D_Hetchum said: As if maturity was a switch. Surviving those life and death situations doesn't mean you know all there is to know about relationships. And if you really observe people, most of us are mature in some aspects while immature in others.Humans, when put into life death situations for extended periods of time, learn how to cope with their surroundings and end up maturing extremely fast. I can semi-stand their rushed relationship, what I can't stand is that after 2 whole fucking years, they still don't know eachothers ages. They dont know each others ages,real names,home towns and etc. Like I said sometime after the death game started talking about their real lives became taboo.Trying to not think so much of the other world so they can cope with SAO. |
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LunaSep 16, 2012 1:29 PM
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| 3/5 because I didn't really like it ... They took 7 minutes for a the honeymoon part. |
daleb729 said: id like to make a simple observation i don't think asuna knows kirito's real name because if they are in a relationship you'd think she'd call him by his real name and how in the world are they gunna find each other in the real world without knowing each others full names they know nothing about each others real life. |
| liked it,seriously envy them and love to see their love blossom,even thought kirito looked like he is already got the 'married' syndrom - oh again,we already played all the frigging time - he said :P :D and asuna just got worried about his age after done many things with him...such a lolicon... yui is ubercute - totally look like their child would be,thought she materialized...somehow xD but she is a strange creature... seriously this serie is too popular 26 page conversation?! and a lot of picture and spoiler...sigh,there are other good series too thought :( |
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| @Gash_V-D_Hetchum SAO isnt that complicated even without reading the LN.At least up until now what you needed to know is there in the anime. |
Sango_chan_desu said: liked it,seriously envy them and love to see their love blossom,even thought kirito looked like he is already got the 'married' syndrom - oh again,we already played all the frigging time - he said :P :D and asuna just got worried about his age after done many things with him...such a lolicon... yui is ubercute - totally look like their child would be,thought she materialized...somehow xD but she is a strange creature... You means shotacons |
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Tsundereppoi said: Sango_chan_desu said: liked it,seriously envy them and love to see their love blossom,even thought kirito looked like he is already got the 'married' syndrom - oh again,we already played all the frigging time - he said :P :D and asuna just got worried about his age after done many things with him...such a lolicon... yui is ubercute - totally look like their child would be,thought she materialized...somehow xD but she is a strange creature... You means shotacons 1 fucking year i such a huge deal huh?.Well it is somewhat funny at least. |
ssjokg said: Tsundereppoi said: Sango_chan_desu said: liked it,seriously envy them and love to see their love blossom,even thought kirito looked like he is already got the 'married' syndrom - oh again,we already played all the frigging time - he said :P :D and asuna just got worried about his age after done many things with him...such a lolicon... yui is ubercute - totally look like their child would be,thought she materialized...somehow xD but she is a strange creature... You means shotacons 1 fucking year i such a huge deal huh?.Well it is somewhat funny at least. These people are likely more shocked that the women is older...really people are narrow minded, i actually liked that it was different for a change, the dude is almost always older. |
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InfiniteDestiny said: ssjokg said: Tsundereppoi said: Sango_chan_desu said: liked it,seriously envy them and love to see their love blossom,even thought kirito looked like he is already got the 'married' syndrom - oh again,we already played all the frigging time - he said :P :D and asuna just got worried about his age after done many things with him...such a lolicon... yui is ubercute - totally look like their child would be,thought she materialized...somehow xD but she is a strange creature... You means shotacons 1 fucking year i such a huge deal huh?.Well it is somewhat funny at least. These people are likely more shocked that the women is older...really people are narrow minded, i actually liked that it was different for a change, the dude is almost always older. No one's shocked, we're simply gobsmacked cuz 16 - 17 = π |
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ssjokg said: @Gash_V-D_Hetchum SAO isnt that complicated even without reading the LN.At least up until now what you needed to know is there in the anime. ^this For example, everything I said about Asuna's and Kirito's characters is already in anime, but its shown, not told, which still works perfectly. Frankly a lot of what was cut, can be figured out by viewers using common sense(like why they are still alive in real world) and so far anime took good lengths at animating facial expressions of both Kirito and Asuna to build up that uncomfortable socially-awkward pairing stuff. |
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| Sigh, people really are misunderstanding the marriage thing... |
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InfiniteDestiny said: ts the greatest form of trust because your inventory is shared, you hide nothing Somehow, this sounds so wrong. |
ssjokg said: InfiniteDestiny said: ts the greatest form of trust because your inventory is shared, you hide nothing Somehow, this sounds so wrong. I think that says more about your mind then anything else...Just sayin |
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