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Jul 21, 2008 4:17 AM

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5/5.. I really Love this episode!
C.C just become an ordinary human again o.o
Nunally rocks! for being bossy
and Suzaku so annoying as always -.-
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Very awesome episode. I think I'm also in agreement with some of those that saw CC losing her memories = her potential "death", but I'm not sure.

Also not sure what to think of this move ... I liked CC a lot in the first season, but she never did much in this season until this very episode, which was exciting, then this happens. Sure her new character seems cute ... but eh, weird. It'll be interesting to watch, looks like Lelouch is going to have to really take care of her, lol.

Also just bringing this back up because I think it was an excellent question:
Bloodshot-Shanks said:
absolute insanity so is Charles a contracter now?


I wouldn't be surprised, it's Code Geass after all, heh.
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Well, not a bad episode. So much happened that I think I need to let it sink in a bit more. I question the pacing because a lot happened but this is CG. there are just some episodes that are like this one. It really does feel like things are getting a bit too science-fiction for the nature of this series and my suspension of disbelief has been shaken even more... but next episode seems to have a much more "realistic" tone.

Suzaku... well. better very late than never. He's pretty much been Zero 2.0 since the start of this season and still, it takes him 15 episodes to realize the fault of his ways. I hope he returns back to more of his old self as I think it's better for this series that he doesn't turn into a one-dimensional villain character and isn't 100% dislikable.

I don't know what's going to happen to Lelouch or his geass. It seems as though Lelouch might've lost his geass. I don't know if I should be interested or disgusted. If he really did lose his geass part of it is really does seem to be a blatant cover-up to avoid possible loopholes created by the pairing of Orange and Lelouch (a.k.a. infinite geass use). Part of me sees potential in this move and part of me is really second guessing it all. What's Zero without his Geass?

It looks like the war is going to push into full power and that things are going to slide to a close. I thought we might get a third season but it looks like it has a good chance of ending in 10 more episodes... given how much it feels like their trying to rush things and cram these episodes full of content (or how they basically set up the end of the Ashford Academy "filler" episodes), it feels like they have some plan for things.

And C.C... C.C... T_T add another dumb as a brick girl to Lelouch's entourage. Her superiority and swagger was really a good departure from all the bimbos in this series.
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It's an interesting development, It does seem as if more has happened to C.C than just lost her memory, but I can't see that having any effect on Lulu. So for Lulu's powers to have changed something damn interesting must have happened when we weren't looking.
If C.C's memories were altered by Charles then that's something Orange could fix quite easily, so I don't think it will be that simple. It also occurs to me that Lulu can order people in a way to change their memories so Charles's power must be a little better than that.
To the comments about Lulu satisfying C.C's wish, that shouldn't have had such a big effect on her, it defiantly seems as if its the result of interrupting the process half way through. The wider effect of that might be interesting.
Jul 21, 2008 6:29 AM

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Wow what the hell was that?
Poor poor C.C. I hope she doesn't stay moe though :\

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Fai said:

If it was CLAMP series


OMG, you made me laugh so hard!!! especially the "stab his eye" part!!

You're also forgetting that if CLAMP really did make this then we'd have been inundated with Sakura petals of doom by now. I'd actually be so worried if CLAMP took over this, I can imagine them all doing that crazy Lelouch laugh while creating scary crack pairings ~
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Overall nice episode. Though it really created some confusion (especially Nina's new creation and CC losing her memories). I believe things will get even more interesting ;)

Jul 21, 2008 7:31 AM

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You're also forgetting that if CLAMP really did make this then we'd have been inundated with Sakura petals of doom by now. I'd actually be so worried if CLAMP took over this, I can imagine them all doing that crazy Lelouch laugh while creating scary crack pairings ~


what!? you mean rose petals in the opening is not enough? :<
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Fai said:
LolitaDecay said:

You're also forgetting that if CLAMP really did make this then we'd have been inundated with Sakura petals of doom by now. I'd actually be so worried if CLAMP took over this, I can imagine them all doing that crazy Lelouch laugh while creating scary crack pairings ~


what!? you mean rose petals in the opening is not enough? :<
There needs to be MOAR! The Knightmares need to rollerskate down a road lined with Sakura trees. Then I'll be happy.
Jul 21, 2008 8:13 AM

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ok i have a question

did she lose her memories or was it an alter ego or another personality or another person in her that woke up..
Jul 21, 2008 8:26 AM

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Nice episode, it really seems that the Code Geass staff has started to work, it was a strange episode, it will be good if they don't mess up the story now.
Jul 21, 2008 8:42 AM
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Ahhh...that was truly mind boggling. But rewatching it makes a lot more sense.

It makes me fee that R2 is not over rated at all...well, I hope it still continues its usual rhythm.

C.C. to be loved?


Jul 21, 2008 9:42 AM

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boring episode. Im really hating R2 so far
Jul 21, 2008 10:34 AM

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loved the episode, not too much action, but everything else was awesome
lulu gained points for being smart and using mirrors... cheap, but really useful.
lol @ emperor shooting himself, i thought it was too easy for lulu... then again, he should have been geass-less by then, so lulu's geass shouldn't have worked... lol, lulu got teas'd
kallen SLAPPED sufagu... HELL YES
sufagu needs to die for hitting kallen.
no, i don't like sufagu a bit more than before, even if he didn't use the refrain, he is still a jackass in my opinion
V.V died... yes!?
Emperor come back!
emperor got a geass hand, xD
THE MASKS, I KNEW WHAT THEY WERE, my prediction was right, not completely, but i knew they were masks xD.... i guess they do hide all of the world's lies...
Villeta and Ougi reunion just to get spoiled by kunoichi sayoko, and ougi... sad... but well, it was such a nice development moment...
why did charles want to grant C.C's wish? to become more powerful? or wut? lol, it makes almost no sense
lulu's sad for C.C's wish, awww, lulu likes C.C
nina's nuke works, thats bad
Nunally is about to realize, oh shitz
C.C's younger self was so cute...
a geass to be loved... so... that means that the geass comes from the user's desire?
S1 ED pictuer at the end.... they finally explained it, about effin time
uhh... poor lulu and shi tsu, without c.c's memories, she's no longer C.C... maybe we will even get her real name... FOR THE FIRST TIME IN THE TWO SEASONS
also... i want kallen to go back to lulu.... :(
Jul 21, 2008 11:06 AM

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Well some of you are saying that having your code taken basically wipes all your memories that were created when you were a geass contracter. i don't think that is true because if that were true then V.V. would not be able to remember C.C. let alone the time he met Charles when they made the Pact.
Jul 21, 2008 11:13 AM

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I couldn't quite tell by the episode 16 preview, but I think Lelouch and Cornelia will finally talk again.
Jul 21, 2008 11:26 AM

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Thanatos said:
I couldn't quite tell by the episode 16 preview, but I think Lelouch and Cornelia will finally talk again.


Yea i also noticed that she was chained up that doesn't seem like a good sign.
Then we also meet another knight of rounds but for some reason he's meeting wit Kallen, which also cannot be a good sign.
Then we have Lelouch talking to press about his UN plan or sumthin which seems like a Good sign.
Jul 21, 2008 11:53 AM
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Wow lelouch became the giver... this was a pretty amazing yet sad episode...
Jul 21, 2008 11:53 AM

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OH

MY

GOD

Up until tis day, I thought that Slayers Revolution would be the best show this year(and the next). Now, I'm not so sure!

I don't know what's more awsome, the prism bomb, that Lelouch won and didn't(LOL at his face, that's one way cope with victory) or the premise that Sunrise will wrap this up in Hirosima. Let's not forget invincible Charles!

What the fuck was up with naked C.C.? Must be a les. You don't get naked in church just like that sporting an attitude like that...

canephalanx asked:
did she lose her memories or was it an alter ego or another personality or another person in her that woke up..


Guess her mind got reverted back efore the moment she got the Geass.

P.S. Somebody make the picture of the Ha- Ha Guy with the nun's line! That's a must!

Ha- Ha!
Sorry, you were fooled!
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Woah, I just finished watching this episode and it was awesome! Now, Lelouch is going to make the UN, too. Crazy.
Blergh.
Jul 21, 2008 2:31 PM

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So, did Charles kill V.V for lying to him? Or was it just for his Code?
Jul 21, 2008 2:48 PM

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blackfeather_58 said:
So, did Charles kill V.V for lying to him? Or was it just for his Code?


I think it was just for the Code
Jul 21, 2008 2:49 PM
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Izzy2008 said:
blackfeather_58 said:
So, did Charles kill V.V for lying to him? Or was it just for his Code?


I think it was just for the Code


yea now hes immortal & lelouch will have to do the same thing to c.c. to beat charles...
Jul 21, 2008 2:52 PM
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canephalanx said:
ok i have a question

did she lose her memories or was it an alter ego or another personality or another person in her that woke up..


i think charles was close to killing her & her memory was the 1st to die then she got away & saved lelouch...
Jul 21, 2008 3:10 PM

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Great episode, the C.C. backstory was interesting, and the episode was just crazy. Looking forward to what's next now.




Jul 21, 2008 3:14 PM
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Yeah this episode was soo filled! I loved it!!! Wuhu this is what Code Geass should be like! NICE!!!
Jul 21, 2008 5:12 PM

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flix02 said:
Izzy2008 said:
blackfeather_58 said:
So, did Charles kill V.V for lying to him? Or was it just for his Code?


I think it was just for the Code


yea now hes immortal & lelouch will have to do the same thing to c.c. to beat charles...


i don't think that Lelouch will do that to her, C.C said it herself he's too kind, but then again, he has killed before.
Jul 21, 2008 5:51 PM
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I loved soo much this epi too, but i´m sad with the loss of memory of C.C. , i wish her´s memory back, Lelouch will be immortal after all of that was happend in the epi 15?
Jul 21, 2008 6:43 PM

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i really hope she regains her memories
Jul 21, 2008 6:48 PM

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I was really looking forward to the back story of C.C., but this episode was kind of confusing. I understood everything with how she got her powers and how what she wanted was to die and then Lelouch would be immortal but the whole way it was carried out was jacked. Now it seems that the emperor is immortal and V.V. is going to die, I actually thought that Lelouch managed to pull it off for a second. Also, I have a new hatred for Suzaku, even though he was able to stop himself from using the refrain even having the though of doing it is bad enough.


#NBHNC
Jul 21, 2008 7:06 PM

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This show would benefit from 40 minute episodes.
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From 100-1000, how much do you love LWL?
OVER 9000!!!
Jul 21, 2008 7:44 PM

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This show would benefit from having hour long episodes. :P

Once again Geass delivers. I don't know whether to curse R2 or not. I mean, the episode was great, but doing that to C.C.

T_T

5/5 from me. And I wasn't confused at all by what was going on. Easy enough to understand. :P

And Nina and her weapons of mass destruction = :-(

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I was really looking forward to the back story of C.C., but this episode was kind of confusing. I understood everything with how she got her powers and how what she wanted was to die and then Lelouch would be immortal but the whole way it was carried out was jacked.

You, my friend, have just been Evangelion'd.

Favorite episode thus far, ironically because it was reminiscent of Eva. What's disappointing to me though, is that both Rolo and Suzaku are still alive.
Jul 21, 2008 8:14 PM

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oh God, mind screw episode X_X
Jul 21, 2008 8:40 PM

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Smart ass bastard...taking her memories away. I guess, in a way, she did "die."

But hahaha, with the semi -mind fuck this episode provided, it got me thinking if CLAMP had a little part in the script. =P
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I don't get why so many people are calling this a mind-screw episode <_< it really wasn't that bad in those regards.

the only thing mind screw about it was the break-neck pacing of constant revelations. The rest of it outside of the typical cliffhanger ending was rather straightforward.
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Oh one thing confused me with Suzaku....how the heck is injecting Kallen with Refrain similar to what Lelouch is doing? GG Suzaku you fail at logic again.
Jul 22, 2008 2:21 AM

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vindemon64 said:

But hahaha, with the semi -mind fuck this episode provided, it got me thinking if CLAMP had a little part in the script. =P

Haha, those sneaky ladies.
Jul 22, 2008 2:33 AM
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Taihaku said:
Oh one thing confused me with Suzaku....how the heck is injecting Kallen with Refrain similar to what Lelouch is doing? GG Suzaku you fail at logic again.


Because it's immorally forcing a helpless person to submit to your will without choice. It's also an action that would sacrifice the welfare of another person for personal goals / desires. Not to mention that they are "friends" and that such a relationship should also carry a sense of mutual respect.

Do I need to explain? When Lelouch geasses someone into doing something against their normal will, it's an act of immorally forcing someone else to submit to his will without a choice. It's an action that has often involved sacrificing the welfare of another person for personal goals / desires. In Suzaku's eyes, Lelouch has also been acting with no regard for friendship. From what he knows, he thinks Lelouch forced Euphy into doing something totally against her will for a selfish goal and personal gain.

It's similar to what Lelouch has done on multiple levels.
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Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence syndrome. Reality, thought, and dreams are all mixed up and you have no idea what's happening. Well, at least I don't,
Jul 22, 2008 4:55 AM

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This was another great episode.. I somehow hope that Lelouch gets immortal, that could be sooo cool ;D
Jul 22, 2008 11:20 AM

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This episode was great, certainly one of the best episodes this season. Also, way to make CC moe.
Jul 22, 2008 12:50 PM

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Great episode.. and if Lelouch gets immortal it will be the end of the world as we know it!! xD lmao
Jul 22, 2008 1:51 PM
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Oh yeah, can someone clarify me on this?

Why did C.C. lose her memories again? Didn't she push Charles away? When Lelouch shot the pillars suddenly we get the mysterious falshbacks again and in the next scene we see C.C. falling with blank eyes...So I assume she already lost her memories at that point.....But WHAT happened?
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
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wakka9ca said:
Oh yeah, can someone clarify me on this?

Why did C.C. lose her memories again? Didn't she push Charles away? When Lelouch shot the pillars suddenly we get the mysterious falshbacks again and in the next scene we see C.C. falling with blank eyes...So I assume she already lost her memories at that point.....But WHAT happened?


u should just go back and read some previous posts because there are a whole bunch of explanations from different people each wit what they believe in the past 7 pages.
Jul 22, 2008 7:24 PM
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All right, now Schneizel is the official antagonist right now.. Just look at the new OP, Schneizel appears to antagonize Lelouch more than the Emperor....

The machine we see Touda fighting in the OP... Is that the Damocles mentionned???

Judging from the numerous appearance of Gino in the new Op, he must play major rule in the second half of the season.....
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The endless debate between fans and haters. At one point, after spending a lot of time on MAL, you just realize it's totally pointless.
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On MAL, everyone who has used the lame rating system becomes a critic and an intellectual by default, haven't you heard?
Jul 22, 2008 8:31 PM

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I figured it out!

Lelouche has the Code now. Whatever happened when He fired at the Sword of Akasha made C.C. lose her memories, and in thus, signifying her death whilst obtaining her life. (Maybe a power of the Sword of Akasha; I thought it had something to do with the images of clocks ticking and people dying/maoning)

Anyway to prove this, as many have already mentioned:

C.C. DOES NOT HAVE HER MARK OF CODE, HER BANGS WERE OPEN TO SHOW THIS
LELOUCHE'S BANGS WERE CLOSED, RIGHT WHERE THE CODE WOULD HAVE BEEN

*bows*
Jul 22, 2008 9:17 PM

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I'm kind of losing interest in this.

At first I was like oh yay Giant Robots...but now it's too much magicy and whatnot and he always seems to win..randomly...I really hope they stop at 50 episodes. I'm going to watch something else for a while then go back and finish it up as it's just not worth waiting a week to see what randomness happens next.

By the way, nothing wrong with magic...just doesn't seem to like work well with it anymore for me... I think there wont even be anymore mechs soon...
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Se2b said:

By the way, nothing wrong with magic...just doesn't seem to like work well with it anymore for me... I think there wont even be anymore mechs soon...


Did you already forget the last episode contained every Knightmare frame on the Order vs. Siegfried?
Jul 22, 2008 11:08 PM
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I figured it out!

Lelouche has the Code now. Whatever happened when He fired at the Sword of Akasha made C.C. lose her memories, and in thus, signifying her death whilst obtaining her life. (Maybe a power of the Sword of Akasha; I thought it had something to do with the images of clocks ticking and people dying/maoning)

Anyway to prove this, as many have already mentioned:

C.C. DOES NOT HAVE HER MARK OF CODE, HER BANGS WERE OPEN TO SHOW THIS
LELOUCHE'S BANGS WERE CLOSED, RIGHT WHERE THE CODE WOULD HAVE BEEN

*bows*


mmhmm <_<

So what of Charles? He took V.V.'s code and yet he doesn't have the geass mark across his forehead. It's also not like the mark of geass was always showing on V.V.'s forehead, either.

The truth is we won't know what happened this episode until some things are explained.

To clear things up for people, things we know from watching this episode:

1.) We know C.C.'s past now.

2.) The immortal contractors (V.V. and C.C.) give geass to people in an attempt to find a person who will take their place as a contractor and end their immortality.

3.) The way geass changes over time (like we saw with the mishap with Lelouch's geass involving Euphy) is a result of geass developing. After geass reaches the end of its development, the possessor of the geass replaces the contractor.

4.) The original deal between C.C. and Lelouch was this: In exchange for the power of the kings, Lelouch would eventually inherit C.C.'s immortality from her and take her place as an immortal contractor. What C.C. wanted was a release from her timeless suffering and the pain of countless years of pain, loss, and suffering.

5.) Charles inherited V.V.'s code. As a result, he's now immortal.

6.) Suzaku has come to the realization that his actions resembled Lelouch's.

Things we don't know but can speculate about now:

1.) The Sword of Akasha's use is still unknown. I was thinking that it was most likely a tool that allows the final transfer of immortality from the contractor to the contracted when the time has come. Charles has said that the Sword of Akasha is a weapon that is used to slay the gods. If we assume that the gods are C.C. and V.V. (and possibly not limited to them as we saw in C.C.'s various flash backs), it makes sense as he's effectively slaying them when they lose their immortality. This theory is effectively debunked by the fact that C.C.'s original contractor didn't need the Sword of Akasha to give her immortality to C.C.

2.) Contractors and Geass. Right now, we know when Charles replaced V.V., he lost his geass. So, we can assume that it was not Charles altering or erasing C.C.'s memories with his geass. We can assume it was something else. Also, if it was a result of geass, Orange's canceler would make it a rather pointless plot twist.

3.) Right now, we can't say for sure if C.C. has lost her abilities as a contractor. We also can't say anything definitive about what happens to other contracted geass users when their contractor is stripped of their role as a contractor. It would make sense that their geasses are effectively cancelled since their contracts are nullified. So, what happens to Rolo? And, if C.C. has indeed lost her abilities as a contractor, what would happen to Lelouch?

4.) Contrary to what has been said in this topic, we also don't know if Charles is indeed trapped within the realm of the Sword of Akasha.
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Brian333 said:
Ivalice3 said:
I figured it out!

Lelouche has the Code now. Whatever happened when He fired at the Sword of Akasha made C.C. lose her memories, and in thus, signifying her death whilst obtaining her life. (Maybe a power of the Sword of Akasha; I thought it had something to do with the images of clocks ticking and people dying/maoning)

Anyway to prove this, as many have already mentioned:

C.C. DOES NOT HAVE HER MARK OF CODE, HER BANGS WERE OPEN TO SHOW THIS
LELOUCHE'S BANGS WERE CLOSED, RIGHT WHERE THE CODE WOULD HAVE BEEN

*bows*


mmhmm <_<

So what of Charles? He took V.V.'s code and yet he doesn't have the geass mark across his forehead.


Charles' code is on his right hand; he showed it to Lelouch. I am assuming that's also where V.V had it.
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