| It's all in 4:3, early 2000's animation sucked, pre-2000 stuff is usually long and not easily acessible, lots of older tropes didn't age well and i fell that i get most of what i like of current anime. Should i watch pre-2005 anime? Why? |
 yes!  YES!  OMFG YES!  did i mention YES?! |
GrimAtramentNov 13, 2018 8:20 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| Shows with good animation today are still few and far between, so that is seriously a non-issue, lots of old anime has amazing animation so you are just assuming that. Most aren't long and most people have pirated anime before. Lots of tropes are trash regardless of decade. Because Legend of the Galactic Heroes is the pinnacle. |
 I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
Lunilah said: Shows with good animation today are still few and far between, so that is seriously a non-issue, lots of old anime has amazing animation so you are just assuming that. Most aren't long and most people have pirated anime before. Lots of tropes are trash regardless of decade. Because Legend of the Galactic Heroes is the pinnacle. theres a lot of good pre 2000 anime, but that's not one of them >:) LotGH is just a meme. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: I don't trust people with mean scores over 7.Lunilah said: Shows with good animation today are still few and far between, so that is seriously a non-issue, lots of old anime has amazing animation so you are just assuming that. Most aren't long and most people have pirated anime before. Lots of tropes are trash regardless of decade. Because Legend of the Galactic Heroes is the pinnacle. theres a lot of good pre 2000 anime, but that's not one of them >:) LotGH is just a meme. |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
| another post of ignorance saying whatever decade they dont like has bad animation I see There is no reason as to why you should watch. You should just want to watch anime in general and not care about age Its just dumb like asking for a series that takes places in college and is about art but when given Honey and Clover as a solid option you just say ew no please, it released in 2005 so I can't watch that despite it being what I asked for |
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Deknijff said: another post of ignorance saying whatever decade they dont like has bad animation I see There is no reason as to why you should watch. You should just want to watch anime in general and not care about age Its just dumb like asking for a series that takes places in college and is about art but when given Honey and Clover as a solid option you just say ew no please, it released in 2005 so I can't watch that despite it being what I asked for i think its because people confuse animation with art style. in anime. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Your claim on the animation part is just straight up wrong. Sure 4:3 sucks, but there are some shows that animation wise look better than most things coming out today. (Eureka Seven, FMA 03, Cowboy Bebop etc.) |
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hazarddex said: Its kind of sad that happens so often tbh Deknijff said: I think its because people confuse animation with art style. in anime.another post of ignorance saying whatever decade they dont like has bad animation I see There is no reason as to why you should watch. You should just want to watch anime in general and not care about age Its just dumb like asking for a series that takes places in college and is about art but when given Honey and Clover as a solid option you just say ew no please, it released in 2005 so I can't watch that despite it being what I asked for |
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Immovable_Object said: Your claim on the animation part is just straight up wrong. Sure 4:3 sucks, but there are some shows that animation wise look better than most things coming out today. (Eureka Seven, FMA 03, Cowboy Bebop etc.) cowboy beepbop yes eureka seven i've not fully seen yet so ill save my opinion on that. but FMA 03 is a travesty to the source material. Deknijff said: every time i hear people confuse art for animation part of me wants to clockwork orange style them into watching actually badly animated shows. hazarddex said: Its kind of sad that happens so often tbh I think its because people confuse animation with art style. in anime. like berserk 2016...... |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Of course you should give it a chance lmao. In order to better appreciate what we have now, you should see where the creators today got their ideas and passion from. (Though I agree that early 2000s art specifically was ugly, just watch something older than that if it's not to your liking style-wise). Also keep in mind the differences between animation and art when viewing. Not all subjectively ugly art is badly animated for the time period. |
hazarddex said: Pretty much this.Deknijff said: another post of ignorance saying whatever decade they dont like has bad animation I see There is no reason as to why you should watch. You should just want to watch anime in general and not care about age Its just dumb like asking for a series that takes places in college and is about art but when given Honey and Clover as a solid option you just say ew no please, it released in 2005 so I can't watch that despite it being what I asked for i think its because people confuse animation with art style. in anime. I'm looking at Eva and can't say the animation is below average at all. |
| Yes? Some of it's really enjoyable... I don't see a reason why you wouldn't watch older anime. |
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Immovable_Object said: Your claim on the animation part is just straight up wrong. Sure 4:3 sucks, but there are some shows that animation wise look better than most things coming out today. (Eureka Seven, FMA 03, Cowboy Bebop etc.) >Eureka Seven ...are you sure about that?  |
| What you have is merely assumptions. Don't assume shit. Try it for yourself. Watch some notable pre 2005 anime and see if that makes a difference. For example, Mobile Suit Gundam, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Cowboy Bepop, Full Metal Alchemist etc. Most of those anime are usually the poster children of their respective genre, what's considered to be the best in their genre. |
| I don't think you should watch old anime because they're not new and anything thats not new is bad XDXDXDXDXDXDXD |
Deknijff said: another post of ignorance saying whatever decade they dont like has bad animation I see There is no reason as to why you should watch. You should just want to watch anime in general and not care about age Its just dumb like asking for a series that takes places in college and is about art but when given Honey and Clover as a solid option you just say ew no please, it released in 2005 so I can't watch that despite it being what I asked for I was actually referring to a period of 5-7 years that is basically the pre-Haruhi period when anime changed it's paradigm to digital animation but still couldn't use it very well. |
_Iconic said: What you have is merely assumptions. Don't assume shit. Try it for yourself. Watch some notable pre 2005 anime and see if that makes a difference. For example, Mobile Suit Gundam, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Cowboy Bepop, Full Metal Alchemist etc. Most of those anime are usually the poster children of their respective genre, what's considered to be the best in their genre. I couldn't enjoy Cowboy Bebop. As for Gundam and FMA, i might as well just watch Brotherhood and the the Origin films. |
Admittedly, the third opening does look bad, but you can't seriously say that the show looks badly animated overall.  |
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| @Immovable_Object The third cour in general is like this. The animation is pretty fine overall, but really nothing spectacular. |
hazarddex said: cowboy beepbop yes eureka seven i've not fully seen yet so ill save my opinion on that. but FMA 03 is a travesty to the source material. Okay... Okay... I'll take the bait why do you think it's a "travesty" to its source material? |
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Immovable_Object said: hazarddex said: cowboy beepbop yes eureka seven i've not fully seen yet so ill save my opinion on that. but FMA 03 is a travesty to the source material. Okay... Okay... I'll take the bait why do you think it's a "travesty" to its source material? it had almost nothing to do with the actual source material and devolved into a plot about nazis from another dimension. did the characters very little credit to how they were in the actual manga and basically went full filler. thewiru said: _Iconic said: What you have is merely assumptions. Don't assume shit. Try it for yourself. Watch some notable pre 2005 anime and see if that makes a difference. For example, Mobile Suit Gundam, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Cowboy Bepop, Full Metal Alchemist etc. Most of those anime are usually the poster children of their respective genre, what's considered to be the best in their genre. I couldn't enjoy Cowboy Bebop. As for Gundam and FMA, i might as well just watch Brotherhood and the the Origin films. as far as brotherhood goes thats based on the source material unlike a certian 2003 adaptation EHEM gundam bad idea Origin films do not cover the first gundam in the UC timeline or zeta or 08th ms team. and you will be missing out on the absolute gem that is Turn A gundam. (also turn A has a blue ray release which bumped up the graphics if its "to old for you." so you literally have no excuse for that one.) |
GrimAtramentNov 13, 2018 8:53 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: That's what happens when you use up all the source material.Immovable_Object said: Okay... Okay... I'll take the bait why do you think it's a "travesty" to its source material? it had almost nothing to do with the actual source material and devolved into a plot about nazis from another dimension. did the characters very little credit to how they were in the actual manga and basically went full filler. thewiru said: I couldn't enjoy Cowboy Bebop. As for Gundam and FMA, i might as well just watch Brotherhood and the the Origin films. as far as brotherhood goes thats based on the source material unlike a certian 2003 adaptation EHEM |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
Lunilah said: hazarddex said: That's what happens when you use up all the source material.it had almost nothing to do with the actual source material and devolved into a plot about nazis from another dimension. did the characters very little credit to how they were in the actual manga and basically went full filler. as far as brotherhood goes thats based on the source material unlike a certian 2003 adaptation EHEM not even 2003 had horrid filler before it even used up the source material. and don't even get me started on this whinny bit of filler trash |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
hazarddex said: Because there wasn't enough source material.Lunilah said: That's what happens when you use up all the source material. not even 2003 had horrid filler before it even used up the source material. |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
hazarddex said: it had almost nothing to do with the actual source material and devolved into a plot about nazis from another dimension. did the characters very little credit to how they were in the actual manga and basically went full filler. The first anime was made specifically to deviate from the source material. I also hope that Nazi's not what you got out of the second half of the story which is almost irrelevant to the story. |
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Immovable_Object said: hazarddex said: it had almost nothing to do with the actual source material and devolved into a plot about nazis from another dimension. did the characters very little credit to how they were in the actual manga and basically went full filler. The first anime was made specifically to deviate from the source material. I also hope that Nazi's not what you got out of the second half of the story which is almost irrelevant to the story. no it was also the highly contrived |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
thewiru said: _Iconic said: What you have is merely assumptions. Don't assume shit. Try it for yourself. Watch some notable pre 2005 anime and see if that makes a difference. For example, Mobile Suit Gundam, Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Cowboy Bepop, Full Metal Alchemist etc. Most of those anime are usually the poster children of their respective genre, what's considered to be the best in their genre. I couldn't enjoy Cowboy Bebop. As for Gundam and FMA, i might as well just watch Brotherhood and the the Origin films. I can't see the hype surrounding Cowboy Bepop either, I dropped it early on because I didn't see any sense of direction with the plot and felt like it was a waste of time. I literally sat there after the seventh episode I believe and asked myself "when is the plot going to start?" after that I just dropped it. As for Gundam, starting off with Origins is your best bet as to finding an introduction into the universe of Gundam. In fact it's my favorite Mobile Suit Gundam anime out of the entire franchise. I was more intrigued by the political situation Origins introduced the Gundam universe in rather than the mobile suit fights themselves (Although the fights were like a cherry on top and well animated). FMA Brotherhood is the better of the two FMA's imo (because it follows the manga I've heard). I actually watched the first FMA before watching Brotherhood. Although I definitely enjoy Brotherhood more, I did enjoy FMA too. It's definitely interesting to see where both versions of FMA branch out and see how the same characters were presented differently in each anime and how the vision/scope of the characters played out in both versions. It's definitely not a must to watch FMA but if your craving more FMA than I do recommend doing so. |
_Iconic said: You should check off Heaven's Feel on your PTW then, you'd enjoy that with the 2nd movie around the corner.It's definitely interesting to see where both versions of FMA branch out and see how the same characters were presented differently in each anime and how the vision/scope of the characters played out in both versions. hazarddex said: I get you don't like FMA because it went off the source material, but you have to understand there was no source material to go off and that was kinda the point. Furthermore, source material can still be trash, your gripes seem to be more towards the comparison to FMA:B rather than the actual story.Immovable_Object said: The first anime was made specifically to deviate from the source material. I also hope that Nazi's not what you got out of the second half of the story which is almost irrelevant to the story. no it was also the highly contrived |
LunilahNov 13, 2018 9:07 PM
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
Immovable_Object said: The third OP was actually intentional animated in that way and is considered to be the best animated one of the show. But yeah, Eureka Seven is pretty good in that regard overall.Admittedly, the third opening does look bad, but you can't seriously say that the show looks badly animated overall. Like with any time period, there were bad and good shows. Nobody forces you to watch a show, but you might be missing on some good stuff. Planetes, Ghost in the Shell, Rahxephon, Paranoia Agent and Samurai Champloo to name a few are all amazing shows in every aspect, be it animation, directing or writing. |
| Dude, the best anime ever made are pre 2005, eva, rah, blue gender. You can watch a few of them the good ones. |
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Lunilah said: _Iconic said: You should check off Heaven's Feel on your PTW then, you'd enjoy that with the 2nd movie around the corner.It's definitely interesting to see where both versions of FMA branch out and see how the same characters were presented differently in each anime and how the vision/scope of the characters played out in both versions. I get you don't like FMA because it went off the source material, but you have to understand there was no source material to go off and that was kinda the point. Furthermore, source material can still be trash, your gripes seem to be more towards the comparison to FMA:B rather than the actual story. oh yes i know the source material can still be trash, but that was not the case. and please not i watched FMA 2003 when it aired and immediately noticed the drop in story quality when it went full filler edgelordfest. |
GrimAtramentNov 13, 2018 9:13 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Lunilah said: _Iconic said: You should check off Heaven's Feel on your PTW then, you'd enjoy that with the 2nd movie around the corner.It's definitely interesting to see where both versions of FMA branch out and see how the same characters were presented differently in each anime and how the vision/scope of the characters played out in both versions. For Fate Stay Night? I actually think Fate Stay Night is the most disappointing Fate entry out of the Fate's I finished. I didn't like how the plot essentially focused much of it's attention on two servants and their masters and disregarded a lot of the cast. I certainly felt the other servants could've gotten more screen time (it wasn't like they were boring either). However if it's that good enough to change my perception of Fate Stay Night, I'll give it a watch. I've been craving alot of well animated action oriented anime (with decent plots) lately. |
| Thought this was a bait thread until I saw who op is. If you don't want to watch older anime, then just don't watch it. I really doubt anybody here is actually going to sway you otherwise. Although, I get the feeling you created this thread knowing nobody would be able to change your mind and you just enjoy spouting your unpopular opinions like a few months back when you couldn't stop talking about how much you dislike Cowboy Bebop. If that is indeed true (which it may not be), I want you to know that you're a very obnoxious individual. |
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(yes i know 360p, but no one posted the blue ray opening on youtube *yet*) |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
_Iconic said: That's a pretty specific thing to put a lot of weight on considering your Fate/Apoc score, which i now presume it's so high because of the wide development it has with a lot of the heroic spirits.Lunilah said: You should check off Heaven's Feel on your PTW then, you'd enjoy that with the 2nd movie around the corner. For Fate Stay Night? I actually think Fate Stay Night is the most disappointing Fate entry out of the Fate's I finished. I didn't like how the plot essentially focused much of it's attention on two servants and their masters and disregarded a lot of the cast. I certainly felt the other servants could've gotten more screen time (it wasn't like they were boring either). However if it's that good enough to change my perception of Fate Stay Night, I'll give it a watch. I've been craving alot of well animated action oriented anime (with decent plots) lately. But no, Heaven's Feel isn't like that, what it is though is cutting out a lot of the bullshit you already know about the series. For example, UBW repeats a ton of SN dialogue and plot in general, feels more like a soft reboot. Heaven's Feel has very little of that and doesn't show much of what you already know, and just gets right to the point. It does give more screen time to other spirits but i don't want to put too much weight on that since the other movies aren't out yet. |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
thewiru said: millenial weebshit like you should probably stay away from cel animations.It's all in 4:3, early 2000's animation sucked, pre-2000 stuff is usually long and not easily acessible, lots of older tropes didn't age well and i fell that i get most of what i like of current anime. Should i watch pre-2005 anime? Why? your brains arernt developed for such good quality, you should stick with your cgi sao shit |
If you don't mind me asking, what the names of the anime in which the gifs originated from? |
| Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts. |
| Yes. There are some very good shows per 2005 |
Lunilah said: _Iconic said: That's a pretty specific thing to put a lot of weight on considering your Fate/Apoc score, which i now presume it's so high because of the wide development it has with a lot of the heroic spirits.For Fate Stay Night? I actually think Fate Stay Night is the most disappointing Fate entry out of the Fate's I finished. I didn't like how the plot essentially focused much of it's attention on two servants and their masters and disregarded a lot of the cast. I certainly felt the other servants could've gotten more screen time (it wasn't like they were boring either). However if it's that good enough to change my perception of Fate Stay Night, I'll give it a watch. I've been craving alot of well animated action oriented anime (with decent plots) lately. But no, Heaven's Feel isn't like that, what it is though is cutting out a lot of the bullshit you already know about the series. For example, UBW repeats a ton of SN dialogue and plot in general, feels more like a soft reboot. Heaven's Feel has very little of that and doesn't show much of what you already know, and just gets right to the point. It does give more screen time to other spirits but i don't want to put too much weight on that since the other movies aren't out yet. Yeah I agree with you that it is, but the very first thing that's introduced to you when watching Fate for the first time (that is if your watching Fate Zero as most people are instructed too) are the servants. The servants (and to a lesser extent the masters) make or break the show. Fate Zero had an excellent balance of interesting rivalries between masters and between servants, whereas Fate Apocrypha had an entertaining cast of servants with rivalries despite not having a lot of masters. Regardless it didn't disappoint. Whereas UBW focused much of their attention on the rivalry between another master and servant, sort of breaking the established formula for the series. Which I don't usually mind if a series does that, but it has to be done right. For UBW it wasn't done right and rubbed me the wrong way. Servants are supposed to be way stronger than masters, much so that it was presented in Fate Zero that if a master encounters a servant, it's either run away or get slaughtered. The fact that masters were literally going toe to toe with servants in UBW didn't sit well with me. Not to mention I felt that alot of the potential for development for the other servants and masters was wasted on a rivalry that didn't make sense in the universe in the first place. Also, the rules surrounding the holy grail war were repeated so much it did add to my disappointment. Just curious, what is your opinion of Grand Order? Is it worth the watch? |
Shreeder4092 said: If you don't mind me asking, what the names of the anime in which the gifs originated from? first one is from the comedy sifi action dirty pair. second one is from the war drama sifi 08th ms team third one is from the claimed nassica in the valley of wind. fourth one is form FLCL first season. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Man this topic is full of bait. I'm honestly a little impressed. |
| Why is this even a question? ofc, this shouldn't even be a question |
   I'll keep wishing for a world where you can be happy. |
hazarddex said: Shreeder4092 said: If you don't mind me asking, what the names of the anime in which the gifs originated from? first one is from the comedy sifi action dirty pair. second one is from the war drama sifi 08th ms team third one is from the claimed nassica in the valley of wind. fourth one is form FLCL first season. Thank you for the answer! I'll make sure to check out these series soon! |
| Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts. |
_Iconic said: I understand this especially as someone who was instructed to start with Zero, but that didn't bother me much at all. What bothered me most with UBW was how it basically had nothing to actually do with Zero at all and can be watched without it. Nothing overlapped when tons should have. But unfortunately or fortunately Zero was something made after the original source material/1st adaptation and capitalized on it's faults.Lunilah said: That's a pretty specific thing to put a lot of weight on considering your Fate/Apoc score, which i now presume it's so high because of the wide development it has with a lot of the heroic spirits. But no, Heaven's Feel isn't like that, what it is though is cutting out a lot of the bullshit you already know about the series. For example, UBW repeats a ton of SN dialogue and plot in general, feels more like a soft reboot. Heaven's Feel has very little of that and doesn't show much of what you already know, and just gets right to the point. It does give more screen time to other spirits but i don't want to put too much weight on that since the other movies aren't out yet. Yeah I agree with you that it is, but the very first thing that's introduced to you when watching Fate for the first time (that is if your watching Fate Zero as most people are instructed too) are the servants. The servants (and to a lesser extent the masters) make or break the show. Fate Zero had an excellent balance of interesting rivalries between masters and between servants, whereas Fate Apocrypha had an entertaining cast of servants with rivalries despite not having a lot of masters. Regardless it didn't disappoint. Whereas UBW focused much of their attention on the rivalry between another master and servant, sort of breaking the established formula for the series. Which I don't usually mind if a series does that, but it has to be done right. For UBW it wasn't done right and rubbed me the wrong way. Servants are supposed to be way stronger than masters, much so that it was presented in Fate Zero that if a master encounters a servant, it's either run away or get slaughtered. The fact that masters were literally going toe to toe with servants in UBW didn't sit well with me. Not to mention I felt that alot of the potential for development for the other servants and masters was wasted on a rivalry that didn't make sense in the universe in the first place. Also, the rules surrounding the holy grail war were repeated so much it did add to my disappointment. Just curious, what is your opinion of Grand Order? Is it worth the watch? I haven't watched Grand Order, just SN, Zero, UBW, HF, and Apoc. I plan on watching the rest of HF along with the 3 NEW GO series coming. |
I don't believe in the Devil. You should. He believes in you. |
anyway this is not the point of this topic. if you wish to continue talking about it pm me. |
GrimAtramentNov 13, 2018 9:55 PM
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| @hazarddex Bro, as much as I love the FMA manga and Brotherhood, don't use arguments like "it's not canon" when criticizing FMA 2003. Because going by your logic, The Shining is a bad film because it was unfaithful to its source material. |
AltoRoark said: oh no i already went into detials on why i dislike the 2003 series literally 1 post above you@hazarddex Bro, as much as I love the FMA manga and Brotherhood, you're gonna need better arguments than "it's not canon" when criticizing FMA 2003. Because going by your logic, The Shining is a bad film because it was unfaithful to its source material. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| @hazarddex I edited my post. I realized that you were using other arguments. But the point stands that "non-canon" is a poor argument about quality. |
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