DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
Maloghurst said: tsudecimo said: on top of what others said. Rin always cared about him because since you's seen F/Z this isnt a spoiler for youFairly meh episode, aside from Archer conversation and interaction with Shirou. Why was Rin so upset about Shirou not having fun? was it just because she cares about him? 3/5 Theoretically it is a HALF the reason. An omitted scene in Rin's part of prologue of UBW (EP0) has her thinking back to |
 |
Maloghurst said: tsudecimo said: on top of what others said. Rin always cared about him because since you's seen F/Z this isnt a spoiler for youFairly meh episode, aside from Archer conversation and interaction with Shirou. Why was Rin so upset about Shirou not having fun? was it just because she cares about him? 3/5 Oh right, that too. And |
 |
CookingPriest said: Maloghurst said: on top of what others said. Rin always cared about him because since you's seen F/Z this isnt a spoiler for you Theoretically it is a HALF the reason. An omitted scene in Rin's part of prologue of UBW (EP0) has her thinking back to this is NOT in the prologue it's actually revealed MUCH MUCH later. I would even say in the epilogue... |
tsudecimo said: Maloghurst said: on top of what others said. Rin always cared about him because since you's seen F/Z this isnt a spoiler for you Oh right, that too. And It's one reason but the post above you gave another reason. |
 |
normalpriest said: CookingPriest said: Theoretically it is a HALF the reason. An omitted scene in Rin's part of prologue of UBW (EP0) has her thinking back to this is NOT in the prologue it's actually revealed MUCH MUCH later. I would even say in the epilogue... |
|
tsudecimo said: as mentioned from previous posts to top this off Maloghurst said: on top of what others said. Rin always cared about him because since you's seen F/Z this isnt a spoiler for you Oh right, that too. And |
normalpriest said: CookingPriest said: Theoretically it is a HALF the reason. An omitted scene in Rin's part of prologue of UBW (EP0) has her thinking back to this is NOT in the prologue it's actually revealed MUCH MUCH later. I would even say in the epilogue... No it is in prologue. Do i need to screencap it? |
|
CookingPriest said: it's mentioned in the prologue, she goes on about it but it's not showcased as a major deal. normalpriest said: this is NOT in the prologue it's actually revealed MUCH MUCH later. I would even say in the epilogue... No it is in prologue. Do i need to screencap it? |
CookingPriest said: normalpriest said: this is NOT in the prologue it's actually revealed MUCH MUCH later. I would even say in the epilogue... No it is in prologue. Do i need to screencap it? oh yeah, i just checked, but it's not that explained at all |
Maloghurst said: as mentioned from previous posts to top this off Hmm. Will I like the Sakura reason more, it's less generic, and might make their romance less painful in the future. Also got two more questions |
|
tsudecimo said: Maloghurst said: as mentioned from previous posts to top this off Hmm. Will I like the Sakura reason more, it's less generic, and might make their romance less painful in the future. Also got two more questions No & No |
|
| So, Rin did that command spell, purely for Shirou's sake? no other hidden reason? That's pretty wasteful.. |
|
tsudecimo said: So, Rin did that command spell, purely for Shirou's sake? no other hidden reason? That's pretty wasteful.. It just shows how contradictory she is. F/Z spoilers |
|
| Where is that highjump image when you need it? |
tsudecimo said: Killing your ally after you just used 10 years worth of mana to save his life is wasteful?So, Rin did that command spell, purely for Shirou's sake? no other hidden reason? That's pretty wasteful.. |
HentaiPriest said: Where is that highjump image when you need it? What is the scene name that contains the actual explanation? Been a while since I read it that route. |
|
nocorras said: tsudecimo said: So, Rin did that command spell, purely for Shirou's sake? no other hidden reason? That's pretty wasteful.. It just shows how contradictory she is. F/Z spoilers Yeah, and it's pretty evident in episode 12. But couldn't she have trusted Archer enough, to behave? I know she felt he isn't being himself, but I doubt Archer, would have attempted aggression against Shiro or Saber again. |
|
tsudecimo said: Maloghurst said: as mentioned from previous posts to top this off Hmm. Will I like the Sakura reason more, it's less generic, and might make their romance less painful in the future. No no, that's not the main reason she developed the crush, or rather an "interest" in the guy, the main reason she did is literally because As for the other two questions, I've already been sniped. |
UBW is basically a route about three tsunderes constantly bashing their heads against one another.  |
nocorras said: No it is a comical image about the scene and how pretty much every other FSN char show Shirou that evening.HentaiPriest said: Where is that highjump image when you need it? What is the scene name that contains the actual explanation? Been a while since I read it that route. tsudecimo said: I doubt Archer, would have attempted aggression against Shiro or Saber again. lol. Ah just to be safe, I am not laughing at you but that's funny. |
Noruhma said: tsudecimo said: Hmm. Will I like the Sakura reason more, it's less generic, and might make their romance less painful in the future. No no, that's not the main reason she developed the crush, or rather an "interest" in the guy, the main reason she did is literally because As for the other two questions, I've already been sniped. Oh I see. I guess the reasons are not that important anyway, what comes after it, is. |
|
HentaiPriest said: nocorras said: No it is a comical image about the scene and how pretty much every other FSN char show Shirou that evening.What is the scene name that contains the actual explanation? Been a while since I read it that route. Got you covered (bit of HF Spoilers I think). |
UBW is basically a route about three tsunderes constantly bashing their heads against one another. |
Noruhma said: HentaiPriest said: No it is a comical image about the scene and how pretty much every other FSN char show Shirou that evening. Got you covered (bit of HF Spoilers I think). Hehe, lel |
 |
tsudecimo said: nocorras said: It just shows how contradictory she is. F/Z spoilers Yeah, and it's pretty evident in episode 12. But couldn't she have trusted Archer enough, to behave? I know she felt he isn't being himself, but I doubt Archer, would have attempted aggression against Shiro or Saber again. - Archer tried to kill Shirou and Saber as collateral during battle against Berserker - He tried to kill him at the temple. - He has shown to favor Caster so Rin very rationally is afraid of him doing another collateral thing which would lead to caster killing them. |
|
Noruhma said: Yep thanksHentaiPriest said: No it is a comical image about the scene and how pretty much every other FSN char show Shirou that evening. Got you covered (bit of HF Spoilers I think). Funny how Even Ilya wants to be part of it. |
tsudecimo said: Yeah, and it's pretty evident in episode 12. But couldn't she have trusted Archer enough, to behave? I know she felt he isn't being himself, but I doubt Archer, would have attempted aggression against Shiro or Saber again. Don't ever trust Archer... You will see why soon enough. tsudecimo said: Oh I see. I guess the reasons are not that important anyway, what comes after it, is. Yeah. Rin said that, didn't she? She just do what she likes. But that's just a simple crush. The reason she falls for Shirou in UBW is partly (I want to use "mainly", but many people won't agree with me) thanks to |
chickenonthepan said: tsudecimo said: Yeah, and it's pretty evident in episode 12. But couldn't she have trusted Archer enough, to behave? I know she felt he isn't being himself, but I doubt Archer, would have attempted aggression against Shiro or Saber again. Don't ever trust Archer... You will see why soon enough. tsudecimo said: Oh I see. I guess the reasons are not that important anyway, what comes after it, is. Yeah. Rin said that, didn't she? She just do what she likes.But that's just a simple crush. The reason she falls for Shirou in UBW is partly (I want to use "mainly", but many people won't agree with me) thanks to ^Not necessarily There's also the part that Shirou intentionally throws her off her comfort zone or facade, by teasing her and trolling her. Which is bound to have her grow closer to him because usual methods of preventing that do not work. |
|
- Archer tried to kill Shirou and Saber as collateral during battle against Berserker - He tried to kill him at the temple. - He has shown to favor Caster so Rin very rationally is afraid of him doing another collateral thing which would lead to caster killing them. I don't think so. He told Rin, he had no communication with Saber or Shirou, so that doesn't automatically means he wanted to take them out as well. Not to mention, the most important part, being at the time, they weren't official allies, but enemies as far as he is concerned. But favoring of Caster, happened after the command spell was used though. |
|
CookingPriest said: ^Not necessarily Uhm maybe |
tsudecimo said: - Archer tried to kill Shirou and Saber as collateral during battle against Berserker - He tried to kill him at the temple. - He has shown to favor Caster so Rin very rationally is afraid of him doing another collateral thing which would lead to caster killing them. I don't think so. He told Rin, he had no communication with Saber or Shirou, so that doesn't automatically means he wanted to take them out as well. Not to mention, the most important part, being at the time, they weren't official allies, but enemies as far as he is concerned. But favoring of Caster, happened after the command spell was used though. He continues lying to Rin about his memory being hazy when clearly he remembers his past when he talks to Shirou. And just be patient, and you will see why this guy is a dick who should not be trusted. |
tsudecimo said: Rin had just told Shirou that she would let hm go for now.Archer just ignored her intentions.- Archer tried to kill Shirou and Saber as collateral during battle against Berserker - He tried to kill him at the temple. - He has shown to favor Caster so Rin very rationally is afraid of him doing another collateral thing which would lead to caster killing them. I don't think so. He told Rin, he had no communication with Saber or Shirou, so that doesn't automatically means he wanted to take them out as well. Not to mention, the most important part, being at the time, they weren't official allies, but enemies as far as he is concerned. But favoring of Caster, happened after the command spell was used though. But Archer trying to kill her ally happened before the use of the command spell. |
tsudecimo said: LOLs "what he told Rin".........- Archer tried to kill Shirou and Saber as collateral during battle against Berserker - He tried to kill him at the temple. - He has shown to favor Caster so Rin very rationally is afraid of him doing another collateral thing which would lead to caster killing them. I don't think so. He told Rin, he had no communication with Saber or Shirou, so that doesn't automatically means he wanted to take them out as well. Not to mention, the most important part, being at the time, they weren't official allies, but enemies as far as he is concerned. But favoring of Caster, happened after the command spell was used though. |
chickenonthepan said: He continues lying to Rin about his memory being hazy when clearly he remembers his past when he talks to Shirou. And just be patient, and you will see why this guy is a dick who should not be trusted. I actually was wondering about that. Did he actually remember or not, it would certainly explain some of his behavior. Maloghurst said: LOLs "what he told Rin"......... I mean as in he told her to stay back. Not that he told her, to warn Saber and Shirou. |
|
tsudecimo said: Just think about it.chickenonthepan said: He continues lying to Rin about his memory being hazy when clearly he remembers his past when he talks to Shirou. And just be patient, and you will see why this guy is a dick who should not be trusted. I actually was wondering about. Did he actually remembered or not, it would certainly explain some of his behavior. Is there any reason why a summoning like Rin's would cause memory damage to Archer but Saber with Shirou's accidental summoning is ok? |
tsudecimo said: chickenonthepan said: He continues lying to Rin about his memory being hazy when clearly he remembers his past when he talks to Shirou. And just be patient, and you will see why this guy is a dick who should not be trusted. I actually was wondering about. Did he actually rememberor not, it would certainly explain some of his behavior. He remembers everything. |
chickenonthepan said: Don't ever trust Archer... This needs an edit with Archer already, I only have this one with the mushroom: |
UBW is basically a route about three tsunderes constantly bashing their heads against one another. |
chickenonthepan said: tsudecimo said: I actually was wondering about. Did he actually rememberor not, it would certainly explain some of his behavior. He remembers everything. What about Saber? |
|
tsudecimo said: chickenonthepan said: He continues lying to Rin about his memory being hazy when clearly he remembers his past when he talks to Shirou. And just be patient, and you will see why this guy is a dick who should not be trusted. I actually was wondering about that. Did he actually remember or not, it would certainly explain some of his behavior. Maloghurst said: LOLs "what he told Rin"......... I mean as in he told her to stay back. Not that he told her, to warn Saber and Shirou. There was no way for Shirou or Saber to notice that or for Rin to warn them unless she would ignore her own self-preservation which well, no normal person can. Rin even voices her concerns to Shirou after boundary field incident saying that Archer is acting strange and they should not give any reason for him to do something stranger. She already has a precedent of Archer intentionally trying to kill shirou AND of Archer indirectly trying to kill Shirou(which would technically circumvent her second command spell) AND she has only one spell left so she can't just waste it because then she has no way of stopping him. So she does her best at trying to not have Shirou and Archer in same place. tsudecimo said: chickenonthepan said: He remembers everything. What about Saber? Rin's questions to him in Episode 12 should have already answered that. |
|
tsudecimo said: if there is anything about Archer that is remotely believable is that Rins safety matters to him.chickenonthepan said: He continues lying to Rin about his memory being hazy when clearly he remembers his past when he talks to Shirou. And just be patient, and you will see why this guy is a dick who should not be trusted. I actually was wondering about that. Did he actually remember or not, it would certainly explain some of his behavior. Maloghurst said: LOLs "what he told Rin"......... I mean as in he told her to stay back. Not that he told her, to warn Saber and Shirou. |
tsudecimo said: chickenonthepan said: He remembers everything. What about Saber? |
|
tsudecimo said: chickenonthepan said: He remembers everything. What about Saber? Uhm, everything... |
Noruhma said: chickenonthepan said: Don't ever trust Archer... This needs an edit with Archer already, I only have this one with the mushroom: LOL nice reference |
| Okay, I take the ''she should trust Archer enough'' part back. nocorras said: No I meant, does Saber remember |
|
| Yes, she even mentionated it. |
|
tsudecimo said: Okay, I take the ''she should trust Archer enough'' part back. nocorras said: No I meant, does Saber remember Yes |
|
| Then why doesn't she say anything, when Shirou talks about him? I remember one of the scenes where her face implied that she knew about Kerry's past, but then I thought that maybe she made that face, because she was worried about Shirou's injury in episode 10. |
|
tsudecimo said: Okay, I take the ''she should trust Archer enough'' part back. nocorras said: No I meant, does Saber remember She already let it slip in Episode 2 that she was summoned into this age before. |
|
tsudecimo said: Then why doesn't she say anything, when Shirou talks about him? I remember one of the scenes where her face implied that she knew about Kerry's past, but then I thought that maybe she made that face, because she was worried about Shirou's injury in episode 10. |
|
tsudecimo said: Then why doesn't she say anything, when Shirou talks about him? I remember one of the scenes where her face implied that she knew about Kerry's past, but then I thought that maybe she made that face, because she was worried about Shirou's injury in episode 10. |
tsudecimo said: Then why doesn't she say anything, when Shirou talks about him? I remember one of the scenes where her face implied that she knew about Kerry's past, but then I thought that maybe she made that face, because she was worried about Shirou's injury in episode 10. Because the Kiritsugu Shirou talks about is someone Saber never met. CookingPriest said: I am sure that line is in the anine.tsudecimo said: I actually was wondering about that. Did he actually remember or not, it would certainly explain some of his behavior. I mean as in he told her to stay back. Not that he told her, to warn Saber and Shirou. There was no way for Shirou or Saber to notice that or for Rin to warn them unless she would ignore her own self-preservation which well, no normal person can. Rin even voices her concerns to Shirou after boundary field incident saying that Archer is acting strange and they should not give any reason for him to do something stranger. She already has a precedent of Archer intentionally trying to kill shirou AND of Archer indirectly trying to kill Shirou(which would technically circumvent her second command spell) AND she has only one spell left so she can't just waste it because then she has no way of stopping him. So she does her best at trying to not have Shirou and Archer in same place. |
nocorras said: tsudecimo said: Then why doesn't she say anything, when Shirou talks about him? I remember one of the scenes where her face implied that she knew about Kerry's past, but then I thought that maybe she made that face, because she was worried about Shirou's injury in episode 10. |
|
More topics from this board
Poll: » Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) Episode 3 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Oct 25, 2014 |
1042 |
by Alice_Huxley
»»
Feb 13, 4:23 PM |
|
Poll: » Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Oct 18, 2014 |
856 |
by Alice_Huxley
»»
Feb 13, 3:14 PM |
|
Poll: » Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Dec 27, 2014 |
2751 |
by keynutil
»»
Jan 29, 9:06 AM |
|
Poll: » Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) Episode 10 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Dec 13, 2014 |
1630 |
by SanessyAdversary
»»
Jan 19, 12:54 PM |
|
Poll: » Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) Episode 9 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 ... Last Page )Stark700 - Dec 6, 2014 |
708 |
by SanessyAdversary
»»
Jan 14, 1:25 PM |