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Apr 5, 2010 8:54 AM

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Akiyama said:
ep2 preview

http://www.angelbeats.jp/story2/

Okay...that was pretty hot.
Apr 5, 2010 8:59 AM

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Guild? Oh... good, more MMO references... I dunno if we're being trolled or not...
Apr 5, 2010 9:07 AM

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really like the first episode . The distortion skill from Angel was pretty imba,I think. Any guns can't touch her . lol
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Apr 5, 2010 9:12 AM

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Raven_Ichigami said:
really like the first episode . The distortion skill from Angel was pretty imba,I think. Any guns can't touch her . lol


It's okay, following the rythym/style of the series I'm sure there will be a nerfing episode.

Lots of QQ to be had.
Apr 5, 2010 9:40 AM

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Angel beats have a similarity with the Matrix World,

I like it, and this have to much potential te be exploited.

Apr 5, 2010 9:56 AM
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HARUHI WITH GUNS

But honestly, it was pretty good. Looking forward to the next ep.
Apr 5, 2010 9:58 AM

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Am not impress by the artwork and especially the way girls are drawn. In general it wasn't a bad episode but i didn't find it very good ether.

The whole idea is clever but it's completely ruined by the school setting, the classic thundere, Haruhi like, club leader and the little emotionless cute girl for Angel. In anime such characters in such roles are too clishe. Even the protagonist is too predictable.

Other than that there i a tone of questions.
Why doesn't the Angel takes them? Especially the main guy after she stab him why didn't she took him.
Where to they find all the guns and ammunition?
What else is there besides that school?
MonadApr 5, 2010 10:15 AM
Apr 5, 2010 10:03 AM

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I'll try answer these questions from my own view
Monad said:

Other than that there are is tone of questions.
Why doesn't the Angel takes them. Especially the main guy after she stap him why didn't she took him.
Where to they find all the guns and ammunition?
What else is there besides that school?


1. Nothing has been fully revealed or explored yet and the Angel is still a mystery to us. This is how it is supposed to be.
2. We may get some explanation in later episodes, but my best guess is that it is something to do with the whole afterlife world. Maybe ammunition is dropped by NPC's or something.
3. I'm curious to this too. I'd like to see more than the school, and I imagine we will.

Also, the cliche in this show may start to fade once character background is built and the characters gain some sort of depth.

I think you expected a little too much from a first episode.
Apr 5, 2010 11:07 AM

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oh well not a disappointing opener after all the hype, though not spectacular either, well Key always starts the ball like that(after mentioning the lol coffee)...

The characters are typical meh: a tsun-tsun(not sure if dere-dere)/genkigirl, a loli kuudere, a deadpan snarker, and a bunch of jocks and bullies. Gore is presentable thus decent, SpecFX and animation is plain jane modern(though has an ignorable glitch), and the music is an applause to the ears. Story is still inaudibly early to judge...

The thing i giggle at is the introductory plot is cliché familiar, just look at yuripe the heroine's face, though surprisingly on the other way around(the blue corner). Maeda could be threatening someone from the red corner, i hope not, but it should be. AniKEYplex and the P.A.s seems to be creating a functional protohype, good for them.

Apr 5, 2010 11:23 AM
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Somehow it feels like even I am getting too jaded by shoving people into tropes. The show isn't ground breaking with its characters or premise as individual parts but put together it seems to have a great feel and I am looking forward to what it will be bringing each well.
Apr 5, 2010 11:26 AM

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It was okay.. Hope for something better in the near future. ^^

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Apr 5, 2010 11:26 AM

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Wow. Pretty good start. Yuri reminds me Haruhi, so I already like it. Good idea for the afterlife, I wonder if there is like Haibane Renmei that souls have to wait for redemption, and perhaps students is suicide.

And LOL. 100 hit's.
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Apr 5, 2010 11:51 AM

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garfield15 said:
Akiyama said:
ep2 preview

http://www.angelbeats.jp/story2/

Okay...that was pretty hot.
That... has got to be the most unexpectedly awesome preview I've seen in a while.
Apr 5, 2010 12:01 PM
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i dont know where all the negative comments are coming from.
i found the humor to be ok. its not too humorous and not too un-humorous either,
which fits the seemingly dark story of the anime.
also, animation-quality wise, i have never seen a better animated TV SERIES.
and as for some complaints about the concert scene, its just a way to
distract the NPCs, a tactical method in order to accomplish the missions.
i expect more concert scenes.
also, the characters do seem interesting, as well as the story.
angel beats is not doubt one of the better animes in recent years.
Apr 5, 2010 12:03 PM
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and btw, my theory on yuri-looks-like-haruhi is that
the world of angel beats is actually
closed space or a new world that haruhi created.
yuri could be haruhi's great grand daughter and otonashi could be related to kyon.

lol just an interesting thought
Apr 5, 2010 12:10 PM

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Psychodrake said:
Also, the cliche in this show may start to fade once character background is built and the characters gain some sort of depth.
That's totally possible, just look at Clannad...
Apr 5, 2010 12:27 PM

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Too bad it's only 13 EP.

Apr 5, 2010 12:33 PM

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Saygram said:
Too bad it's only 13 EP.


This.
26 episodes would be fine, geez ... =/


Apr 5, 2010 1:00 PM

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Confused the hell out of me at first, but I enjoyed it. Looking forward to the next episode :]
Apr 5, 2010 3:20 PM

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I wasn't realy impressed, they pretty much showed the whole episode in the previews.
Apr 5, 2010 4:49 PM
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The first remarks we can make are that the art is absolutely ugly and the animation not up to PA Works' usual standards. Also, I didn't understand anything about the plot of this first ep except that there seem to be some heavy underlying concepts about life and death, the existence of God and the separation between reality and virtuality (and potentially a metaphor of the japanese anime industry but I'd have to watch more to be sure). Apart from that, the plot was extremely hazy (Key's done it once again) and most jokes and dialogues fell flat to me, and I didn't really catch what's the characters' purpose as of yet. I'll wait for the next two or three episodes before trying to sort out everything and pass a better judgement on this series, but it was definitely a far less interesting intro than in most former Key adaptations. Not that I was expecting a lot of it anyway, and I still think there's room for a great show after this ep if I can forget the horrible character designs.

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Jacut said:
The first remarks we can make are that the art is absolutely ugly and the animation not up to PA Works' usual standards. Also, I didn't understand anything about the plot of this first ep except that there seem to be some heavy underlying concepts about life and death, the existence of God and the separation between reality and virtuality (and potentially a metaphor of the japanese anime industry but I'd have to watch more to be sure). Apart from that, the plot was extremely hazy (Key's done it once again) and most jokes and dialogues fell flat to me, and I didn't really catch what's the characters' purpose as of yet. I'll wait for the next two or three episodes before trying to sort out everything and pass a better judgement on this series, but it was definitely a far less interesting intro than in most former Key adaptations. Not that I was expecting a lot of it anyway, and I still think there's room for a great show after this ep if I can forget the horrible character designs.


Well finally another who saw the character designs as horrible. I was thinking i was going crazy here with everyone saying how awesome everything looked and never saw better production values(WTF?).
It seems to me that most people decide what they are going to say before they even watch just because they love a company, ate a lot of marketing promotion or something like that and don't actually look at the fucking screen.
Apr 5, 2010 5:00 PM

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Meddigo said:
Attack? How is that an attack? You make a statement on how you feel the episode was wasted. Just because I ask you to elaborate on your own statement doesn't mean it's an "attack". Personaly, I feel the first episode accomplished what it set out to do. Lay the ground work by introducing the Whatever-the-hell BattleFront, Angel, and showing how a basic operation goes down while sprinkling humor in between.

I was just trying to see why you feel it was "wasted". I could easily agree with your ideas, which is why I was just asking for them.

Well you know, anyone who reads this:

Meddigo said:
Oooh. I'm curious now. You can put on your director hat. How would you have done this episode differently? An episode that is obviously meant just as an introduction to the world and its few characters?

Can clearly see a bad case of sarcasm and attitude. If you were truly curious, you would've asked me straight up. A simple "I'm just wondering, but how did you find the episode wasted?" will suffice.

noteDhero said:
I see drama. Is it worth giving up on my saying that I won't watch anything by Key again just so I can be entertained in the discussion?

I was wondering when you were gonna come in :P I swear, it's never fun without you :(

PSNB said:
I didn't notice this on my first few watches, but when I captured this screenshot I noticed something quite interesting.



That my friend, just made me interested in the anime. I can't believe I missed it :(
Apr 5, 2010 5:16 PM

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Coalguy doesn't have SD version

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COALGUY SUBS WERE AMAZING!!!
definitely going with them for the rest of the season :D

Mazuii subs were trolls, just download the coalguys one, they are the best and most consistent with high quality videos

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Apr 5, 2010 5:25 PM

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I liked it a lot ^^

Of course, everybody noticed she is a lot like Haruhi (baka janai no, Ijou!, inasai!) but it's ok, I liked Yuri a lot! About Otonashi.. well, let's see some more..

Anyways, Angel Beats got me! Going to watch the next episode for sure!
Apr 5, 2010 6:10 PM

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no matter how many time they shot the angel, she deflected them- what a monster!
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Apr 5, 2010 6:15 PM

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Monad said:
Jacut said:
The first remarks we can make are that the art is absolutely ugly and the animation not up to PA Works' usual standards. Also, I didn't understand anything about the plot of this first ep except that there seem to be some heavy underlying concepts about life and death, the existence of God and the separation between reality and virtuality (and potentially a metaphor of the japanese anime industry but I'd have to watch more to be sure). Apart from that, the plot was extremely hazy (Key's done it once again) and most jokes and dialogues fell flat to me, and I didn't really catch what's the characters' purpose as of yet. I'll wait for the next two or three episodes before trying to sort out everything and pass a better judgement on this series, but it was definitely a far less interesting intro than in most former Key adaptations. Not that I was expecting a lot of it anyway, and I still think there's room for a great show after this ep if I can forget the horrible character designs.


Well finally another who saw the character designs as horrible. I was thinking i was going crazy here with everyone saying how awesome everything looked and never saw better production values(WTF?).
It seems to me that most people decide what they are going to say before they even watch just because they love a company, ate a lot of marketing promotion or something like that and don't actually look at the fucking screen.


Because everyone has the same opinions as you yeah?

No.
Apr 5, 2010 6:33 PM

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kage-bunshin said:
no matter how many time they shot the angel, she deflected them- what a monster!

I bet she has her own AT Field.
Apr 5, 2010 6:38 PM
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ShibuyaRiver said:





Reborn talks:

Yuri: if We disappear this world i will reborn as Haruhi and you will become my first dog Kyon!
Otonashi: huh? but they said i am gonna be Barnacle and living with Spongebob Squarepants on the sea!
Yuri: You are so dense are you? because you are first decline and very interesting guy
Otonashi:okay?
Apr 5, 2010 6:50 PM

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hmm i just realized that angel beats not just referencing haruhi. On the second blush in this first ep, i swear they are also promoting an incoming real time strategy pc game, perhaps starcraft 2. I reviewed the concert/fight scene, the whole SSS group represents a bunch of "terrans" shooting the lolikuudere "protoss zealot" tenshin(w/ her "plasma" shields up).

If you're all familiar with the game, you could lol. It should be just plain coincidence, but this production seems to be creating new metaphoric ideas for promoting and referencing some otaku cult, such like anime and games...but still not worth to convince though...

some remarks note that the animation was ugly or horrible, well it ain't really, its just too plain jane you could think its boring...

Apr 5, 2010 7:53 PM

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Well, Hinata and Yuri talking about love and other things... I can already see the fanfics
Apr 5, 2010 8:19 PM

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I had no idea what to expect coming into this episode but I have to say that it surpassed any expectations that I may have had. The animation quality was good, the story interesting, and the characters likable. I can't wait for the next episode to see what's gonna happen next :D
Apr 5, 2010 10:00 PM

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Up until the eighteenth minute it was a fairly dull show with uninteresting characters and mostly lame jokes and gags. Angel proving to what's his name he couldn't die was cool and him coming back from death too late with his comeback was one of the few funny jokes. The last few minutes were awesome with the neat concert (loved the song) and the fight against Angel. It was a little too one-sided, all attack from the dead and defense by Angel, but I still enjoyed it.

Not that good of an episode but I like the premise even if I think setting at a school is kind of a waste. It's too early to say one way or another and really there's plenty of potential so I'll stick with it.
Apr 5, 2010 10:04 PM

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Indeed reminded of Haruki. Interesting so far I guess?
Apr 5, 2010 11:10 PM

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Uglyass coloring for the characters. Gradient hair? Really? Some of the backgrounds were really nice so the simplistic, blunt character designs didn't fit.

The guy who visited Otonashi at the nurse had some badass introduction music. Too bad he's a Yurippe whore just like everyone else.

Why do they care if they get reincarnated as barnacles? They're not going to be conscious.
Apr 6, 2010 12:57 AM
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hikoghert said:

Why do they care if they get reincarnated as barnacles? They're not going to be conscious.


Barnacles have feeling too, especially when they are about to get eaten. :)
Apr 6, 2010 1:04 AM
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Monad said:
Well finally another who saw the character designs as horrible. I was thinking i was going crazy here with everyone saying how awesome everything looked and never saw better production values(WTF?).
It seems to me that most people decide what they are going to say before they even watch just because they love a company, ate a lot of marketing promotion or something like that and don't actually look at the fucking screen.


Haha this comment made me lawl hard. LOL
You must be quite a self centered person.
Hey guess what? The world revolves around the sun, not you.
Apr 6, 2010 6:03 AM

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Barnacles have feeling too, especially when they are about to get eaten. :)

XD lol cute~
Apr 6, 2010 6:05 AM
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It looks entertaining but I have a lot of questions I hope to get the answer to.
Apr 6, 2010 7:36 AM

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The art was just ok, but the animation quality blew my mind. Looks like a pretty interesting show this season.

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I didn't notice this on my first few watches, but when I captured this screenshot I noticed something quite interesting.




Really cool find!
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Of course there's no doubt that it's still quite early to be making conclusions, I know that.

But... The art is just about shit.
We have nothing good nor bad about voicing.
The history has nothing new and a bunch of incoherences.
The characters are over used stereotypes that constantly got annoying and acted idiotically... Of course, in my perspective.

So, I wouldn't give this shit an 1. But I'll try watching a few more episodes before dropping it.
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Monad said:
Well finally another who saw the character designs as horrible. I was thinking i was going crazy here with everyone saying how awesome everything looked and never saw better production values(WTF?).
It seems to me that most people decide what they are going to say before they even watch just because they love a company, ate a lot of marketing promotion or something like that and don't actually look at the fucking screen.


Haha this comment made me lawl hard. LOL
You must be quite a self centered person.
Hey guess what? The world revolves around the sun, not you.


You are a retard. Am not talking about the art style they chose but about flaws in drawing the characters(clothes that look like paper,bad drawn legs on the girls and staff like that).
The art style is a matter of perspective but bad drawing isn't.
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Monad said:
rocketbunny said:
Monad said:
Well finally another who saw the character designs as horrible. I was thinking i was going crazy here with everyone saying how awesome everything looked and never saw better production values(WTF?).
It seems to me that most people decide what they are going to say before they even watch just because they love a company, ate a lot of marketing promotion or something like that and don't actually look at the fucking screen.


Haha this comment made me lawl hard. LOL
You must be quite a self centered person.
Hey guess what? The world revolves around the sun, not you.


You are a retard. Am not talking about the art style they chose but about flaws in drawing the characters(clothes that look like paper,bad drawn legs on the girls and staff like that).
The art style is a matter of perspective but bad drawing isn't.


Bad Drawing? If Angel Beats had bad animation/bad drawings, what is good to you?
Name me an anime that has your definition of "good drawings". I would really like to know.

This episode had one of the best, if not the best animation.
Story I would admit is rather confusing, but you don't expect to know all that's happening in the first few pages of a book either...

On the issue of paper clothes:
If you did not see the shading and the shadows on the clothes to say that the clothes look like paper, I would suggest you find an optometrist and book an appointment. Hell, I'd warrant this to be serious enough for you to go to the emergency room ASAP.
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hello1357 said:
Monad said:
rocketbunny said:
Monad said:
Well finally another who saw the character designs as horrible. I was thinking i was going crazy here with everyone saying how awesome everything looked and never saw better production values(WTF?).
It seems to me that most people decide what they are going to say before they even watch just because they love a company, ate a lot of marketing promotion or something like that and don't actually look at the fucking screen.


Haha this comment made me lawl hard. LOL
You must be quite a self centered person.
Hey guess what? The world revolves around the sun, not you.


You are a retard. Am not talking about the art style they chose but about flaws in drawing the characters(clothes that look like paper,bad drawn legs on the girls and staff like that).
The art style is a matter of perspective but bad drawing isn't.


Bad Drawing? If Angel Beats had bad animation/bad drawings, what is good to you?
Name me an anime that has your definition of "good drawings". I would really like to know.

This episode had one of the best, if not the best animation.
Story I would admit is rather confusing, but you don't expect to know all that's happening in the first few pages of a book either...

On the issue of paper clothes:
If you did not see the shading and the shadows on the clothes to say that the clothes look like paper, I would suggest you find an optometrist and book an appointment. Hell, I'd warrant this to be serious enough for you to go to the emergency room ASAP.

Honestly, people who say this episode had great animation needs to look closer. There were some pretty QUALITY moments in there.
Apr 6, 2010 4:30 PM

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Not a bad first episode, some of the characters are a bit of the usual types but pretty cool concept.
Apr 6, 2010 4:41 PM

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lol comments

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Bad Drawing? If Angel Beats had bad animation/bad drawings, what is good to you?
Name me an anime that has your definition of "good drawings". I would really like to know.


Admit it and look closer, art direction of this episode was down right horrible. If you look at the character design closely, you will see how inconsistent and foolish they look. There were tons more animation errors than what it should have such as that freakin CG rifle turned me off right away.
Apr 6, 2010 8:37 PM

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Seeing some comment about bad animation,it prompted me to rewatch the episode & by lord,there is indeed many error is animation/character design.It's pretty disappointed when in 1st ep is already have blatant error despite how "fantastic" the animation was.
Hope they will increase the quality in next episode.
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hello1357 said:
Monad said:
rocketbunny said:
Monad said:
Well finally another who saw the character designs as horrible. I was thinking i was going crazy here with everyone saying how awesome everything looked and never saw better production values(WTF?).
It seems to me that most people decide what they are going to say before they even watch just because they love a company, ate a lot of marketing promotion or something like that and don't actually look at the fucking screen.


Haha this comment made me lawl hard. LOL
You must be quite a self centered person.
Hey guess what? The world revolves around the sun, not you.


You are a retard. Am not talking about the art style they chose but about flaws in drawing the characters(clothes that look like paper,bad drawn legs on the girls and staff like that).
The art style is a matter of perspective but bad drawing isn't.


Bad Drawing? If Angel Beats had bad animation/bad drawings, what is good to you?
Name me an anime that has your definition of "good drawings". I would really like to know.

This episode had one of the best, if not the best animation.
Story I would admit is rather confusing, but you don't expect to know all that's happening in the first few pages of a book either...

On the issue of paper clothes:
If you did not see the shading and the shadows on the clothes to say that the clothes look like paper, I would suggest you find an optometrist and book an appointment. Hell, I'd warrant this to be serious enough for you to go to the emergency room ASAP.


First before suggesting me an optometrist learn the difference between character drawing and animation. Animation has nothing to do with artwork. Animation is basically how naturally and smooth the characters move. It's all about movement. You can even have a cartoon where you draw a circle for a head and 5 lines for there body,hands,legs and still have good animation if the movement is done nicely.
If this show has good animation is a completely different story from what i was talking about.Not that is any good but personally i don't criticize animation too much because it has to be horrible and ruin good action scenes for me to bother. Especially first episodes am more interested in the artwork. If i like the style and if it's drawn well.

Now because am sick of words let's just see who needs an optometrist.
Let's compare paper clothes drawing with another new anime that i saw yesterday and it's not exactly some big production but just some ecchi harem magical anime.

Look at her skirt and clothes and look how more natural they look on the other anime.BTW there's something wrong with her hand in first pic too.


To you see it or are you still blind?

Another paper clothes phenomenon is how his shred clothes look. am afraid that if i touch them i will get a paper cut. Oh! yeah ignore the cables that seem to be levitating.


Now let's compare the other anime in a scene where the clothes get destroyed. Again. DO YOU SEE IT?


Now this.

Here we had a close up on her usual paper skirt put we also had her whole proportion leg distance look strange and also how the hell does her skirt fall like that if it is as short as shown here?

Let's compare it with a close up on the girl's skirt in the other anime. Well what to you know it actually looks like a skirt.


Let's go to this picture. Look at him, her, there clothes, her legs, everything.

Compare it to this. There clothes her legs etc.


Since we mention legs there are other strange paper leg phenomenon.


Of course the phenomenon is not restricted to girls. Same as above pics, look at the guys trousers.


Let's compare it to this trousers of some irrelevant characters in the back. Yes they are not even part of the story.


Is it clear now?

Also her face looks to go weird some times.

Her normal face.


Last look at the depth perception of her clothes. It looks like they are all a flat surface. Also look at her V shaped elbows that were a custom phenomenon of everyone.

Compare it to this.




Who needs an optometrist now? Start closing a date because you need him.

I hate being so anal and i was bored to sit and post all those pictures but since i got so bullied for saying the character artwork wasn't good and i was wondering why many were saying is the best they ever saw, i thought to finally show it in comparison pictures so you guys can finally shut up at criticizing my comment.

Before i close. THE ATTACK OF THE SQUARE MAN!!!!!


Edit: - BTW i just noticed an interesting statistic. All the people who had a problem with what i said had Clannad in there favorites. It looks that my comment about company love wasn't very far off. People see whatever they want to see.
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^ That was pure win.

*Sighs* PA works weren't like that before at all. I actually had some respect on them (CANAAN and True Tears), but I did not expected anime to become this much rough.
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