Guimi Zhi Zhu: Xiaochou Pian Episode 3 Discussion

@Abomination_suah To understand this, I had to read 1984 chapters of a light novel beforehand as preparation for watching third-rate Chinese trash like this show, or sit there jotting down every name on a piece of paper, hoping it might pop up later. Dude, this is a freaking MyAnimeList forum—where do you think people post objective opinions? Here, oh horror, everything written is just "your personal opinion."

@Skullwild yeah, as usual with idiots, any message they don’t like is automatically evil and bad ragebait.

@Ki11grave "If Klein's divination failed, why would another seer's succeed?"
The guy at that point has been on the job for like half an episode and is literally a newbie who’s been on one single case. Why would another seer’s divination work? 🤔
"Just drop it or don’t spread nonsense." Lol, don’t you dare speak badly about my favorite third-rate Chinese garbage, or I’ll write on the forum that you’re spreading nonsense!

@OrigamistToo Because something is interfering the divination. It doesn't matter how many times you do it, if your power level is the same. Plus the Seer pathway is not popular, because of nighthawks having only seq 9 and it not having fighting abilities. By the way, Mystery Pryers (Old Neil) are also able to use divination, but not as good as Seers.

@Ki11grave It's a pity the anime doesn't explain this at all. So it turns out that the abilities of every seer of the same level are equal to each other, and there can’t be someone better or worse among level 9s 🤔 But at the same time, somehow our main character is special and manages to kill level 8-7 clown while being level 9.

@OrigamistToo MC managed to kill the clown, because he tricked him, not outpowered. The only special thing about Klein is that he has the Grey Fog, which is connected to his transmigration (it activates after the luck ritual). The nature of it is one of the main mysteries of the story.

@Abomination_suah To understand this, I had to read 1984 chapters of a light novel beforehand as preparation for watching third-rate Chinese trash like this show, or sit there jotting down every name on a piece of paper, hoping it might pop up later. Dude, this is a freaking MyAnimeList forum—where do you think people post objective opinions? Here, oh horror, everything written is just "your personal opinion."

@Skullwild yeah, as usual with idiots, any message they don’t like is automatically evil and bad ragebait.

@Ki11grave "If Klein's divination failed, why would another seer's succeed?"
The guy at that point has been on the job for like half an episode and is literally a newbie who’s been on one single case. Why would another seer’s divination work? 🤔
"Just drop it or don’t spread nonsense." Lol, don’t you dare speak badly about my favorite third-rate Chinese garbage, or I’ll write on the forum that you’re spreading nonsense!

he didn't pray to any chinese god. and for why could he do that without any breads. it's simple , go back at ep 1 when Klein cake back from fog world. there was four dots on his hands which also quickly disappear. so yeah that is current shortcut for now

@Skullwild



But they don't know that, or do they?




Why does he have to be there? Can't they find, recognize the notebook without him?




That would be more reason to not bring him. If a cop is tied to a case in real life, he stays out of it. Why do they trust him or was it a test?



Don't they have another seer?



I think without the novel this anime can't be understood, it is not telling a cohesive story, just shows parts of the novel.

A minute in, and it already feels like they skipped another year of the plot. Just a moment ago, they showed the main character all happy, finally moving into a new house, providing for his family, and in the next episode, they’re suddenly talking about some random book. Then, in the next scene, it’s like the MC hasn’t even left the previous case. By the way, I totally lost it at the detective scene when they randomly threw in a lightning strike sound and effect at the end of the dialogue—like, what was the point? It wasn’t even raining outside!

The epic music with bass-heavy badaboom at every opportunity is pure gold—guess without it, the viewer would fall asleep and forget they’re watching an “unforgettable” 6969-volume light novel story. So, in their massive organization, is the MC really the only seer they’ve got? Like, the MC fails once, and they immediately have to call in a bunch of agents and use a deadly dangerous doll just to figure out they need to follow their only lead? Couldn’t they just send some dude on a bike to scout it out?

I’ll say it again—the characters’ faces here are so bland. At first, I didn’t even recognize the MC; he looked like a 15-year-old in the opening scene. The captain guy has a face I swear I’ve seen in five other anime. Literally the same face as Erwin Smith from Attack on Titan.
The whole fight scene reeks of some Russian action flick—everything’s gotta be flashy and over-the-top, with constant camera shakes and flips. It’s also giving Korean RPG vibes, where a character can’t just swing an axe—they have to do somersaults and spin in a cloud of sparkles and fart-glitter just to hit a boar.

Looks like the only ones not used in the first episode’s plot were the bakery girl and that rat with the cat, though maybe they’ll turn out to be mages or villainous villains too. So, the MC managed to kill the clown because, what, nothing works on him, and he’s just special? And then the doll just shuts down because its battery died? I thought it was some separate entity from the clown.

Someone mentioned the captain’s forgetfulness is another Chekhov’s gun hinting at some illness. Could they have made that scene more obvious? Like, he coughs six to eight times, and then after that scene, he just stops coughing entirely, as if the writers were like, “Yup, we showed everything we needed to.” The guy learns the word “clown” from the clown who tried to kill him, and it’s presented like some grand mystery—okay, sure.

Anyway, I’m dropping this. No idea why anyone would watch this mess. The creators will probably dump a ton of disjointed nonsense in the next episode too and say, “Just wait, it’ll get really good next time, trust us!”

@OrigamistToo one of the worst criticisms of a show I've seen in a while...

Your first claim, "The next episode they are suddenly talking about a random book", makes me believe you just weren't looking at the screen at all during episodes 1 & 2. This "random book" was mentioned literally in BOTH EPISODES, MULTIPLE TIMES, and the ENTIRE plot point at that moment was that it caused Klein to shoot himself. If you were genuinely paying attention within the first 5 minutes, this is not a detail you possibly could have missed.

The second claim, "Couldn't they just send another seer?", is actually just media illiteracy. Dunn explains literally the second after the divination fails that "a strong force is interfering with the divination"... Why would he call another Seer in? Oh yeah, because it's definetly fucking logical to go to the length to find another seer, just for the slightest chance that the force stops interferring. Did you not see the fucking cane launch itself towards Klein's head? The claim about the doll is stupid too, it's literally explained to be the easiest way to find the notebook due to its ties with the Antigonus family, and they literally show you the method that they have to stop its dangerous effects. The reason it became dangerous during the clown fight was due to the notebook's interferrence, something they couldn't have divined or predicted.

The start of your third claim is valid, European characters in animated media always have similar designs... But it also devalues the next thing you say, "everything needs to be flashy and over-the-top", as if every anime design with multicoloured hair isn't flashy and over-the-top.
Also, nobody in the fight does constant flips and somersaults, other than the clown, who's abilities literally involve him being able to perform circus acrobatics.

The fourth claim "the MC managed to kill the clown because hes special", YES, but it's not the only reason. He just used what abilities he had in the situation to come out on top... Like every other fucking show that had a relatively smart main character. you'd hate batman.

i cba to type all this out

your fifth statement is reaching, he's coughing because you literally see him get pierced through the lungs, his forgetfulness has nothing to do with it, it's just a character trait, that will have more slice of life moments included with it in later episodes

and your statement straight after that is simply just because you didnt understand what roselle said in episode 2


don't know why it's a crime to have to theorize, and remember shit in an anime with "mysteries" in the title

@Abomination_suah Dude, are you schizo or just can't read? I literally just wrote that this is my personal opinion, like every post from anyone here. Who's gonna spill objective facts here? Everyone's got their favorites.

@supremeone55 Weird, it seemed to me like he was performing a ritual he did in China, like praying to a god he knew from a past life, meaning that god itself is some Chinese mystery wonder. And the deal with the dots, dude, am I supposed to suddenly get from some random, unexplained scene with dots that the main character is now three times cooler, stronger, and sexier, and can skip everything to show off his insane awesomeness?

How am I supposed to care about the main character when you know absolutely nothing of his motivations, inner thoughts, personality, or background? He's just acting as a vehicle for the plot at this point. Speaking of the plot, are they ever going to explain the power system to a point where I'm not just sitting here being bombarded by random asspulls and having to pretend like there's any consistency to what I'm seeing

@0207xander please pay attention to the episodes, and you wouldnt have to ask these questions

i can guarantee you that they are answered in both episodes 1 & 2

you should atleast understand his motivations,

as for the power system, if you still do not understand after a rewatch, there is mini-episodes and chibi-episodes not included on crunchyroll: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df3sg8y5VPY

At this point I'm sure that the novel readers know how to reply in just a singular way : it is called lord of mysteries so of course you are not supposed to know anything. No. That's not how it works. Our mc does not question anything at this point. He just learns how to use his powers and the show does not explain how they work or how he learned them, he just uses stuff and we don't learn what they are and the time skips are driving me insane at this point. People use domain expansion one after the other shouting nonsense and the mc does not care, does not question anything. Are they really a team? Why bring only the newbie seer, is he already that capable? Just saying "the clown potion" is not really that will make me say ahh that makes sense, it will just be oh ok just drinking potions I guess. I truly hope future episodes have a way to correct all the missing context. To everyone just saying "the director said that it will become better" stop coping already. That's not a reason to excuse terrible direction. Cutting off interactions between characters is much harder to re introduce. Peace out and good luck to the novel readers trying to answer everything ✌️

Chinese shows always go a bit fast for me. They love to talk and keeping up with the translation while watching things happen can be challenging. So far am liking this show but it does have problems with pacing and adding too many things to the table before explaining them. Someone here said those things get explained along the way, but that's not really the kind of mystery I like. We'll see. So far this is the best show of the season which I thought was doomed like last one was.

I hope the remaining episodes are tolerable. I’ve had to keep a faster pace than the first 3 episodes.

@GrdMysterion well it feels like that because show is lacking background context because of fast pace. But seeing things you can't see or knowing too much can kill a person. Even if klein ask about it they won't tell him. Because info comes with corruption and danger. Klein's transmigration, gray fog, most of mysticism stuff comes with high level corruption. You can say it's plot convenience. But most MCs won't be able to remain in sane mind.


And about those domain expansion it's just imaginary visual addition by donghua team but midnight poet power is simple they can recite poem to make people fall asleep.


Because seer are rare in nighthawlks. They only have sequence 9 potion so most won't choose that path. It's better for them to bring someone associated with case.


About clown potion lmao it's just about secrecy every next potion names are hidden. It's not that makes sense moment. Lord of mysteries: The clown have diffrent symbolic meaning then just sequence name.

I agree with you show definitely have failed the expectation compared to novel hope it improves in future

@Abomination_suah icic, even though i would have loved some inner monologue type of questioning from klein, i do understand your point. btw thank you for taking time to answer! o/

@GrdMysterion I think there will be more inner monologues like that starting from ep 4 now on since the pacing is going to be better

@fanaticrat oh that would be perfect. i truly hope that since the director knew that they had to speedrun the first 70 chapters, he also made a plan to add the missing context later on. not that easy but im willing to wait the whole season to see if i like it or not.

@OrigamistToo one of the worst criticisms of a show I've seen in a while...

Your first claim, "The next episode they are suddenly talking about a random book", makes me believe you just weren't looking at the screen at all during episodes 1 & 2. This "random book" was mentioned literally in BOTH EPISODES, MULTIPLE TIMES, and the ENTIRE plot point at that moment was that it caused Klein to shoot himself. If you were genuinely paying attention within the first 5 minutes, this is not a detail you possibly could have missed.

The second claim, "Couldn't they just send another seer?", is actually just media illiteracy. Dunn explains literally the second after the divination fails that "a strong force is interfering with the divination"... Why would he call another Seer in? Oh yeah, because it's definetly fucking logical to go to the length to find another seer, just for the slightest chance that the force stops interferring. Did you not see the fucking cane launch itself towards Klein's head? The claim about the doll is stupid too, it's literally explained to be the easiest way to find the notebook due to its ties with the Antigonus family, and they literally show you the method that they have to stop its dangerous effects. The reason it became dangerous during the clown fight was due to the notebook's interferrence, something they couldn't have divined or predicted.

The start of your third claim is valid, European characters in animated media always have similar designs... But it also devalues the next thing you say, "everything needs to be flashy and over-the-top", as if every anime design with multicoloured hair isn't flashy and over-the-top.
Also, nobody in the fight does constant flips and somersaults, other than the clown, who's abilities literally involve him being able to perform circus acrobatics.

The fourth claim "the MC managed to kill the clown because hes special", YES, but it's not the only reason. He just used what abilities he had in the situation to come out on top... Like every other fucking show that had a relatively smart main character. you'd hate batman.

i cba to type all this out

your fifth statement is reaching, he's coughing because you literally see him get pierced through the lungs, his forgetfulness has nothing to do with it, it's just a character trait, that will have more slice of life moments included with it in later episodes

and your statement straight after that is simply just because you didnt understand what roselle said in episode 2


don't know why it's a crime to have to theorize, and remember shit in an anime with "mysteries" in the title

How am I supposed to care about the main character when you know absolutely nothing of his motivations, inner thoughts, personality, or background? He's just acting as a vehicle for the plot at this point. Speaking of the plot, are they ever going to explain the power system to a point where I'm not just sitting here being bombarded by random asspulls and having to pretend like there's any consistency to what I'm seeing

Heh, lucky you that a horde of fans of this trash hasn’t swarmed in to tell you you’re an idiot who doesn’t get it, because there was a half-second reference in the first episode at 10 minutes 22 seconds, and you’re apparently the worst person on the planet for not memorizing it.

Man, the discussions here are a riot. Maybe I shouldn’t drop this Chinese garbage with its GoHands-level visuals and Chinese voice acting full of monotonous “shishushasho” sounds after all. Instead, I’ll just keep posting my thoughts on the episodes here to watch the fans of this mess foam at the mouth in rage.

@1kirua_aim Another dude pops up and takes my thoughts after the episode as a negative review, lol.

Oh, random internet guy, sorry I didn’t read the entire light novel before watching this Chinese trash and don’t know what I’m supposed to pay attention to and what I’m not. And of course, my bad for not pausing the episodes to jot down every character’s fart in a notebook so I could be fully in context a week later. For the record, I haven’t even memorized a single name besides the MC yet, and you’re telling me I should’ve remembered the name of the book’s author, which was mentioned once at the start of the first episode, 70 minutes of runtime ago. By the way, in the anime, they weren’t even chasing the book—they were on a mission to save some kidnapped kid. The bit with the torture of the big-nosed guy felt like a random aside, and it looked like the MC hadn’t even left his last mission.

“Second claim” The dude’s been working for literally 10 minutes of anime runtime, been on exactly one case as a detective, even though he was just appointed as a secretary who shuffles papers. Why is it so hard for you to imagine he’s just a newbie and that’s why he messed up? Did he become the best in the biz in 10 minutes flat and couldn’t possibly screw up the cane ritual? Oh yeah, totally safe doll that nearly killed everyone, which they brought on a mission to find the book that, as it turns out—without any hint in the anime—somehow powered up the doll. So they didn’t know the doll would be dangerous near the book? The book, by the way, didn’t go anywhere, so why did the doll just randomly shut down?

“Third claim” How do bland character designs relate to the endless barrage of special effects, like that ultra-gay dude who can’t even cast a spell without rose petals flying out of his pockets? Or the epic music blasting every time that damn suitcase shows up on screen? I guess for the fans, this is the peak of taste and direction.

“Fourth claim” So, like in every trash isekai these days, the MC gets a magical superpower the moment he arrives in the world, making him OP from the very first episodes. They could’ve just given him a dragon-slaying sword or something, but no, it’s just a magical pocket dimension with mysterious magic that grants his every wish. No big deal, right?

“Fifth claim” That same captain, in literally the next scene, just stops coughing and is perfectly fine. So, what, they skipped three years of the novel to his recovery or something?

P.S. By the way, who the hell is Roselle?


@Jfs_ Dude, you can shit yourself all you want, I don’t care. I didn’t ask for plot twist explanations or advice under my post even once. It’s you fans of this Chinese trash who keep popping up nonstop, telling everyone they’re idiots for not reading the whole book before watching. Get lost, fr.

@Abomination_suah Yep, goodbye, my favorite random internet guy who managed to read one book in his life and now tells everyone who didn’t like its wonky adaptation that they’re dumb. Don’t forget to frame your message and hang it on the wall.

@OrigamistToo

1. you literally just need to pay attention, it wasn't just mentioned over "70 minutes of runtime ago", it was literally mentioned in both episodes, and at the start of episode 3, and klein literally inner monologues on how the notebook couldve been the main reason for previous klein's death, theres literally no way you couldve missed this unless you werent paying attention

please check back, the mission WAS to save the kidnapped kid, but the antigonus notebook was mentioned multiple times, especially during the end

2. the anime literally outright tells you the reason why the divination doesnt work, but it isnt enough for you? but god forbid on every other plot detail, you need to be spoonfed? choose one bro

as for why the divination fails, and they dont bother getting another seer, the first reason is that you literally were shown every member of the nighthawks, 20 minutes of runtime ago, and none of them had the pathway of "seer", and the second reason is because you just gain all the knowledge related to your sequence, which IF YOU WERE PAYING ATTENTION, you wouldnt have missed

3. god forbid an anime tries to visually represent it's abilities and make all of them look distinct, lets just remove all the breathing effects from demon slayer, and remove the effects of haki while we are at it... we want bland spell moves like "Fireball" and "Whirlwind", and we want Leonard to just fucking stand motionless as he uses midnight poets' abilities, with no visual indicator, fucking joke ass argument

4. you clearly misunderstand the gray fog, so let me explain it to you, (which i shouldnt have to):

imagine you have a computer --> you boot up a game like universe sandbox --> you explode a planet

this wouldnt make you "planetary", since none of it actually fucking effects reality, klein just uses the space to divine whether it's safe for him to go back, which it ends up being, because the gray fog acted as an external force to remove the effect of 2-049, and the gray fog has way more meaning that will be expanded upon in further seasons, its not just a cheap cheat skill, it barely allows klein to do shit in certain situations, its essentially shit wifi

5. either way i think its just a really fucking nitpicky argument that you use to get another score on why you dont like the anime


"who the hell is roselle",

please
pay attention
this one was literally impossible to miss
i dont understand how this could possibly get past you
like im geniunely dumbfounded
my irl's managed to guess that he was a transmigrator, just like klein, 5 seconds into klein monologuing about him

go fulfill your fuckass agenda elsewhere

@1kirua_aim Heh, too bad I didn’t waste a month of my life reading this Chinese garbage, then I’d know what to focus on in this mess the whole time.

I get it, the fans here have an excuse for everything, like “he’ll definitely pay for his luck later” or “in 900 chapters they’ll explain why it’s like that” or “it’s not a plot device or insane luck, it’s all because of evil entities on top of entities on top of entities.”

1 - I remember that the book was mentioned once by the captain in that scene. But as someone who hasn’t read novel, why the hell should I have memorized that specific surname and not, say, the names of those random ancient languages they mentioned in passing?

2 - So, what, a level 9 Seer is automatically identical in every way to another level 9 Seer? Koreans/Chinese love reducing all characters to game mobs. So, in their massive organization with a giant underground city, there are like, what, six people total? And their church just lets everything run on autopilot? If they’re so desperate for super useful Seers who can just point a stick and know where to go (speaking of this fascinating local detective work), why didn’t they even try to guide the MC onto that path and instead gave him side-eye when he picked this RPG specialization?

3 - Nah, the issue here is that it just looks tacky and ridiculous, straight out of a Korean RPG where a guy can’t swing a sword without a cloud of magical sparkles. It’s not about distinguishing types of crap—it’s that it looks excessive just for the sake of being excessive. You can show a spell without turning it into a magical rose garden with arches and freaking petals flying everywhere. Am I watching episode two or some domain expansion from Jujutsu Kaisen? I see these cinematic red full moons appearing when a dude points a stick in the direction already in every damn show — come up with something original already, otherwise it already looks like some kind of cargo cult, stuffed into the plot simply because it's already been seen somewhere and it seemed cool. That’s why I’m comparing the monster in episode two with those GoHands-style hair physics—it’s flailing all over, spinning back and forth, and looks absolutely awful. As an example of excess for the sake of a cinematic moment: the first episodes are insanely rushed, scenes feel like they skip five chapters at a time, but they had to spend a ton of time on a rat in a bakery and then a cat chasing that rat. I’m pretty damn sure I’ve seen the exact same scene in some old movie like Mouse Hunt. That scene added nothing to the story, but it sure looked expensive and Hollywood-esque. Money was allocated, money was spent.

4 - So, basically, a totally useless ability that lets him break free from a doll’s control so strong that only one other guy with a demon in his shadow could escape it, and it lets him kill a clown two levels above his own class, even though class level completely determines strength. Don’t believe your eyes! It’s totally not OP, not at all.

5 - About the coughing and forgetfulness of that dude, I heard in another convo that it’s some “incredible Chekhov’s gun that not everyone will notice, and only the attentive will remember it and connect the dots after 15,983 chapters.”

Dude, I don’t care who Roselle is. I already said in that same message that I dropped this trash and have no intention of continuing, and it’s not because I called the book a “random book.” The issue wasn’t even the book itself—it’s that the scenes jump around like they’re stung in the ass. One moment the guy’s on a mission, then he’s buying a new house, then they’re suddenly talking about the book, and then he’s back sitting on the same mission. Sorry, by the way, if I offended you by calling your precious “Amogus book” a random book—I didn’t think anyone could get so butt-hurt and start crying over it. All three episodes feel like a bunch of pretty TikTok clips set to epic music with no decent direction whatsoever. You’re the one who keeps pushing your nonsense on me, while also showing that the fans of this title are a bit unhinged. OH NO, he didn’t remember the book’s name, he’s worse than Hitler!



@Skullwild Well, you’re right about that one. These novel freaks are insufferable, losing their minds just because someone called one book from the plot random.

Btw you are bashing on the donghua on every single sentence you have typed so dont blame it all on "not remembering the name of a book"

This ragebait seems better than the last one ill give you a 6/10