Why do people have a problem with guns but not pitbulls?

@Deathko
hands off the Bible Belt, chud. We all know why reactionaries LOVE to hate on the only SKBC+ accepting part of the USA. Sometimes you just have to shoot someone to impress your sister, alright?

Best thread of the year so far. Millions of people in the world are sent to the hospital ever year after being attacked by dogs, and pitbulls make up for two thirds of the fatal attacks. It would be easy to solve the issue though:

1) It is now illegal to own a dog without a licence (the licence will be expensive and hard to get). You need a licence to own a gun, and the gun doesn't randomly start to shoot at people.
2) If you unloose your dog in public, you will face up to 5 years of prison and will have to pay a $10,000 fine.
3) It is illegal to own a pitbull and similarly dangerous breads.
4) It is illegal to bread pitbulls, pitbull bullies, and anything that is closer to a wolf than a caniche. The penalty would be up to 50 years of prison and $10,000,000 fine.
5) If you prefer dogs over cats, you are sent to Antarctica with your "man's best friend."

I was chased by a pitbull once. It lost interest and didn't bite me, but I still ended up with seemingly permanent damage to my body when I fell onto the street from running so quickly. Hopefully I'll win a lot from the lawsuit and have the injuries fixed with surgery.


I know you're exaggerating here, but I thought I'd point out that pitbulls are affectionate and protective toward humans they live with. Plenty of other breeds are more dangerous to humans too.


Let's run the numbers on this. There are roughly 900 million pet dogs in the world. Some have multiple owners such as a family. Some people own multiple dogs as well. But to keep things simple, let's assign one human owner to each of those dogs. Divide by two and we get 450 million people...all of whom are, according to you, "lowkey misanthropists with issues." And the evidence you have presented for this assertion is...*drumroll*...nothing at all. What a surprise. It sounds even sillier when you take into account that dogs have been living alongside humans for tens of thousands of years. That said, I agree with many of the other things you said about dogs and their owners, so I won't respond to all that.

Most gun owners are not nuts, fanatics or fetishists. Your ilk resort to these vacuous affronts because you have no fucking argument, and clearly have no respect for the liberty of others.


People own firearms because it is their right to defend their lives and liberty. Any other reasons are auxiliary.

It is typically not because of insecurity, obsession or "unhealthy views"...these are nothing but more empty insults to compensate for your lack of a rational argument.


And in your country, subjects (ahem, "citizens") are arrested and imprisoned for innocuous behavior like criticizing religion on Facebook or literally standing there doing nothing but silently praying near a building...and on top of that, fined many thousands of dollars for it. Thought crime at its finest.

That's a mild example too. Just look at all the countries where their governments disarmed the people and mass murdered them, to the tune of hundreds of millions.

This is no coincidence. When the people are not armed, the government can ultimately do whatever the fuck they want to you, and there isn't a goddamn thing you can do about it but hope they are in a merciful mood. (Or escape to a country that doesn't treat you like property.)

Honestly, I think I'd rather be a democide victim and have my body destroyed than have my spirit crushed by living in a place that severely punishes me for unapproved thoughts.


In the vast majority of instances that guns are used against others in the US, it is defensively as a deterrent to prevent harm from being caused, without the trigger ever being pulled, saving countless lives...people who may have otherwise been seriously injured or killed if they didn't have a gun with them.


You have not properly researched these statistics, let alone comprehended them. The truth is that no one is more well-educated and responsible in regards to firearms than Americans. There are over 400 million guns, trillions of bullets, and countless other weapons here...yet proportionally minuscule aggression. When a handful of Democrat-run cities are taken out of the equation, the US has nearly the lowest firearm-related murder rate of any nation. Criminals target the defenseless, and do not obey laws. The violence is only so high in those cities (and certain other "gun-free zones") precisely because guns are restricted (in flagrant infringement of the Constitution, I might add), emboldening criminals to take advantage of obedient citizens who are rendered helpless. And to make matters worse, the aforementioned cities fail to separate these violent criminals from the rest of society, habitually releasing them back into the public to wreak further havoc.


Then criminals will continue attacking people, except the victims won't be able to defend themselves. Not to mention the threat posed by governments I mentioned above: even if you don't lose your life, you lose your freedom. Banning guns is what is truly dangerous and deplorable.

A Pitbull needs to be trained to kill. A gun just needs a person with an index finger. It requires training to accurately use it, sure, but you need zero training to just point and shoot. Also, I'm pretty sure people do have issues with pitbulls. If there wasn't a bias against them, you wouldn't have asked why they aren't treated the same as guns.

@FanofAction
putting this into autocorrect, wait a second

A Pitbull needs to be trained is bred to kill human children.

It's a breed that was cultured to have a natural killing instinct, so it's more like they need to be trained to not kill.

@Zarutaku They have a natural killing instinct...if they were bred to fight. Specifically dog fight. If they're aggressive towards humans, it's probably because their human was a shit owner.

@FanofAction ... or maybe it's because too many of them perceive humans (other than their owner) and especially children as someone they're instinctively supposed to fight.

@Zarutaku Sure...And while we're at it, Chihuahua's were bred to be so small so they could be close to foot level and easily bite the toes off humans as their main food source. Dachshunds look that way and have the nickname "wiener dog" as anti-hotdog and sausage propaganda and were invented by PETA. Any really fluffy dog was born that way so they could kill people petting them with large amounts of static electricity. They're currently working on replacing the electric chair with big fluffy puppies.

@FanofAction https://www.noredink.com/lessons/1080

@Zarutaku My first thing was an argument against this. This one wasn't an argument it was pure sarcasm.

@FanofAction I know it was sarcasm, but also a roundabout argument, because it seemingly intended to make my statement appear similarly absurd.

You sound like someone who would enter a cage of hungry lions, just because there's a chance they wouldn't tear you apart.
I prefer being the coward who survives.

@Zarutaku I'll admit I went further than I needed to with that, but all it really boils down to is me not agreeing with what was said. Just like I wouldn't believe anyone who said anything that I listed. I wasn't really trying to put what you said on the same level as what I said.

@Zarutaku At least you know where you stand. You are also not advocating the eradication of a species due to fear mongering.

It's the owner that is illegal, not the gun itself. It's widely known that criminals in the US often use street guns, which are by definition obtained illegally. (Instead of directly from a licensed dealer that conducts a background check before the sale.) Relatively few guns used during the commission of a crime are legally possessed by that individual. There are numerous sources you can look up that show a high percentage of guns used in crimes were acquired from the street or underground markets, trafficking, gangs, theft, etc. I'm not doing your homework for you if you lack basic knowledge.


How is this relevant?


Stolen guns fall under the category of illegally obtained ones. The legal status of previous owners is irrelevant.


I said clashing cultures play a part. I never said they are the sole factor.


If by safer you mean statistically less likely to be murdered...but certainly not safer from governments punishing their subjects *ahem* "citizens."

If someone does attempt to kill or otherwise physically harm you, you are definitely less safe without having a gun to defend yourself. (Even more so with multiple assailants. This also applies to aggressive animals.) Statistics become meaningless when confronted with real danger and helplessness.

Still, there are many parts of the US that are safer than Europe. The true America is nothing like the crime-ridden urban hellscapes Democrats created.


I did not say good; I said legal and law-abiding.

Independent studies and government data indicate that legal gun owners are the most law-abiding group in the United States.


This little rant is based off of something I never even said...

I propounded two solutions: eliminate gun-free zones and imprison violent criminals without quickly releasing them. That way, everyone can fight back, reducing the probability and severity of attacks...and more of them will be incarcerated instead of repeatedly terrorizing the public.


It doesn't explain much for those like myself who have not seen that film. I would suggest explaining in your own words.

@SmugSatoko You should join Current Events, more conversations like this without thread getting locked.

@Tawaney I indeed don't, but I advocate high safety, and in case of pitbulls that requires mandatory leash and muzzle outside the owner's home.

Best thread of the year so far. Millions of people in the world are sent to the hospital ever year after being attacked by dogs, and pitbulls make up for two thirds of the fatal attacks. It would be easy to solve the issue though:

1) It is now illegal to own a dog without a licence (the licence will be expensive and hard to get). You need a licence to own a gun, and the gun doesn't randomly start to shoot at people.
2) If you unloose your dog in public, you will face up to 5 years of prison and will have to pay a $10,000 fine.
3) It is illegal to own a pitbull and similarly dangerous breads.
4) It is illegal to bread pitbulls, pitbull bullies, and anything that is closer to a wolf than a caniche. The penalty would be up to 50 years of prison and $10,000,000 fine.
5) If you prefer dogs over cats, you are sent to Antarctica with your "man's best friend."

it can happen, like when 100 or something years ago, carps walked out of the water and evolved into humans or smth

I'm kind of tired of people hating animals due to their own trauma in life. If you would just seek some help you'd probably stop being weird about it. Saying you hate dogs is unhinged. Humans have proven to be far worse creatures. Look in the mirror, buddy.