Totally disappointed at the story

Jan 7, 4:53 AM

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The animation quality was beyond beautiful in Evangelion 1,2,3 but CG ruined the last one. Also, they heavily altered the main story which made me unsatisfied :(

Jan 7, 5:17 AM

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For me, I really enjoyed the movie and the Rebuild of Evangelion series. The only one that was disappointing for me, and a film that lacked any kind of logic, was the third one. I couldn’t help but give it an embarrassingly low score, and on top of that, the film didn’t meet my expectations. However, I’m grateful for the final movie. It managed to turn things around for me, meeting my expectations and consoling my feelings of sadness.

That’s not the only reason, though—the movie was stunning in terms of cinematography, sound, and story. It had a continuation that I truly appreciated, and I liked it so much that I even cried at the end. Honestly, it’s a masterpiece.

Now, I’m not judging; maybe you didn’t like it for your own reasons, just like I didn’t like the third movie of the Rebuild series.

Jan 7, 5:26 AM

Ronninn

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thats the point of rebuilds what

Jan 7, 6:13 AM

MaximusX0

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Everything related to Neon Genesis is always disappointing nothing new.

MaximusX0Jan 7, 7:33 AM

Squanchyy!

Jan 7, 6:57 AM

thischeetobussin

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It’s an alternate version of Neon Genesis Evangelion, of course the story is going to be altered. It’s not the same as the series.

Jan 7, 7:09 AM

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i really care man ⠀

Jan 7, 7:10 AM

shuvrokun

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thischeetobussin said:
It’s an alternate version of Neon Genesis Evangelion, of course the story is going to be altered. It’s not the same as the series.

still a lot of things didn't make any sense

Jan 7, 7:14 AM

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This film is sadly a clusterfuck. Terrible generic cgi army (one of the worst trends of modern action movies), too many last minute mcguffins and technobabble, but worst of all is the fact that theres so many dropped storylines and character assassinations

The relationship with Shinji and Asuka is developed for 2 and a half movies and it just doesn't go anywhere. Especially if you've seen the supplementary short films, if youve seen 3.0-120min, there's a huge emphasis on how much Asuka cares about Shinji. Its the reason why Asuka ends up leading the mission to retrieve Shinji, it's the reason why Asuka decides to wear the old plugsuit now in tatters bc it's from back when Shinji was still with her. There doesnt need to be a wedding scene at the end but like what was the point of all this if there is zero payoff.

In the original, Rei's character arc culminates with her emancipation in betraying Gendo and leaving the fate of the world in Shinji's hands, proving she is not a puppet. In Rebuild, she is stated to be programmed to like Shinji and gravitate towards him. Theres so many more examples of character assassinations but this is the most egregious one.

Jan 7, 7:25 AM

banheesoo

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you should watch the original series you'll probably like that

Jan 7, 7:37 AM

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attvfsg

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Dec 2023

atleast it was better than the other two brainfuck endings we got

Jan 7, 8:06 AM

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riqmoran

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The original ending is about rejecting escapism and embracing both the good and the bad of living in the real world. Shinji faces his demons and makes this conscious decision. It's implied that everyone else faces instrumentality in a similar way and is allowed to choose whether they want to come back to the real world.

In the ending of 3+1, Shinji just goes outerversal godmode and completely fabricates the perfect world that he wants to live in, completely reversing the message of the original.

Genuinely how does anyone view this as a better ending. It takes a complete lack of critical thinking to accept this as a good or better ending.

Jan 7, 8:37 AM

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doesn't matter how complex the script writers or director make the story to be but evangelion story has always been pretty shit. personally the appeal to me is the relationships of each character and their dialogues but mostly it's all just angels go brrr shoot aliens horny etc

Jan 7, 11:07 AM

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shuvrokun

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you should watch the original series you'll probably like that

@banheesoo yes the original is a masterpiece in history

Jan 7, 11:08 AM

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shuvrokun

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@riqmoran absolutely true

Jan 7, 12:05 PM

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shuvrokun said:
The animation quality was beyond beautiful in Evangelion 1,2,3 but CG ruined the last one. Also, they heavily altered the main story which made me unsatisfied :(

What? It's difficult not to understand that is another cycle of the story, like the exit from a loophole? You don't have to watch it as a remake, it's a sequel from the original course.

Jan 7, 2:07 PM

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If it's that giant Lilith's head in 3D you're referring to it's just supposed to look like that because it come from another dimension and that's actually a good representation imo.

Jan 7, 3:08 PM

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riqmoran said:
The original ending is about rejecting escapism and embracing both the good and the bad of living in the real world. Shinji faces his demons and makes this conscious decision. It's implied that everyone else faces instrumentality in a similar way and is allowed to choose whether they want to come back to the real world.

In the ending of 3+1, Shinji just goes outerversal godmode and completely fabricates the perfect world that he wants to live in, completely reversing the message of the original.

Genuinely how does anyone view this as a better ending. It takes a complete lack of critical thinking to accept this as a good or better ending.

wait what The fuck? was The last scene all fantasy?

Jan 7, 4:23 PM

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smartest jjk fan (character limit)

Jan 7, 4:47 PM

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"They heavily altered the story which made me sad" That's the whole point in the rebuilds???

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riqmoran

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Blumarine210 said:
If it's that giant Lilith's head in 3D you're referring to it's just supposed to look like that because it come from another dimension and that's actually a good representation imo.

I hardly find "it looks bad because it's supposed to look bad" to be a convincing argument.

This film broadly has an issue of the copium defense relying on logic along the lines of it serving some sort of meta narrative that goes beyond the plot.

Yesterday, 9:51 AM

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3+1 was Shinji moving past his trauma and the escapism of the show. Evangelion has always been an analogy for Anno’s own personal journey and this was him moving on. Shinji didn’t make the world he wanted he just decided to live his life finally without his trauma (Evas) which had him trapped in a toxic cycle.

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Did you not notice the altered story in 2 and 3?

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@MadJimJaspers that's basically what I already alluded to. I understand that people want to praise it based on the META narrative, what they think it means to the author.

But what I'm doing is judging the story on its face. I don't care that the author wanted to poetically free himself of writing the Eva franchise by having Shinji wipe them out of existence. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the author, in that he wanted to tackle escapism by having Shinji erase Evangelion which is deemed to be the object of obsession for many fans, but in doing so Shinji himself is engaging in escapism. He is rejecting the world as it is and reshaping it with a godlike power so that he can get his happy ending. The purported meta narrative is in direct conflict with the actual narrative of the story.

You cannot give your main character the power to erase the bane of his existence, to bring people back to life, then fast forward to a future thats all sunshine and rainbows thanks to these godlike powers and then claim this is a story against escapism.

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riqmoran said:
@MadJimJaspers that's basically what I already alluded to. I understand that people want to praise it based on the META narrative, what they think it means to the author.

But what I'm doing is judging the story on its face. I don't care that the author wanted to poetically free himself of writing the Eva franchise by having Shinji wipe them out of existence. I'm pointing out the hypocrisy of the author, in that he wanted to tackle escapism by having Shinji erase Evangelion which is deemed to be the object of obsession for many fans, but in doing so Shinji himself is engaging in escapism. He is rejecting the world as it is and reshaping it with a godlike power so that he can get his happy ending. The purported meta narrative is in direct conflict with the actual narrative of the story.

You cannot give your main character the power to erase the bane of his existence, to bring people back to life, then fast forward to a future thats all sunshine and rainbows thanks to these godlike powers and then claim this is a story against escapism.

That’s actually a pretty fair critique and I completely see what you’re saying, sorry if I didn’t pick that up first time around.

I think for me I didn’t feel it was a contradiction having shinji do what he did as I engage my own narratives in a similar way of being very egocentric but I’m autistic and it’s kind of the only way I can express it, whether Anno is the same I can’t say but I understood it from that perspective when I watched it and seeing it from a literal view from within the universe your critique is valid.

The only retort I’d give is during the CG fight at the end that most people didn’t like they literally break the 4th wall and battle in the model set that they literally used to block the scenes, so for me that was the message that the narrative was no longer meant to be looked at from a literal perspective of Shinji and the world but from our own. Or at least that’s how I’m going to continue to justify my own perspective now that I understand yours lol

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riqmoran said:
The original ending is about rejecting escapism and embracing both the good and the bad of living in the real world. Shinji faces his demons and makes this conscious decision. It's implied that everyone else faces instrumentality in a similar way and is allowed to choose whether they want to come back to the real world.

In the ending of 3 1, Shinji just goes outerversal godmode and completely fabricates the perfect world that he wants to live in, completely reversing the message of the original.

Genuinely how does anyone view this as a better ending. It takes a complete lack of critical thinking to accept this as a good or better ending.

Because the first presupposes living in a world where you must accept the external and everchanging conceptualizations of others rather than defining the world for yourself and truly making your own decisions in it. Some people grow up and realize everything labeled "escapism" isnt just being a coward. Living in the world doesnt have to mean anything anyone else says or does inherently matters to you. Theres more to life than accepting "youre a coward if X, to Y is Z, etc etc" which all came from others and changes with culture time and circumstance

Well, most here won't understand this as our world has reached quite the inflection point of oversocialization most have no clue what its like to have a truly self-emanating framework

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