[Oshi No Ko]
| Very well said. I would have killed for an happy ending of Aqua seeing Ruby at a dome and ending up with Kana. But this is what suits the story most. Aqua lived and died as an hero. Thank you GOAT💙 |
| I rushed all 165 chapters in... two or three days. I wanted to check for myself if the ending was really THAT atrocious as people were saying, and nah. I agree it's really fitting, there were hints since the first chs, and Aqua's personality was a complex topic so... I also agree it's not the best one, nor the most emotional one, but call it "the worst ending" or trash, it's definitely an exaggeration lol. |
| is it the worst ending imaginable? No. Is it good? Absolutely not. It feels rushed, unsatisfying and, as someone else put it most of all, lazy. And for me personally it puts the spotlight entirely on what I consider the weakest parts of Oshi No Ko story-wise and leaves a whole bunch of threads not only unanswered (which I don't mind) but basically meaningless. |
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| for me its really a bad ending, it feels like I wasted my time, no progress, now I wonder what was the purpose of the story, they ended where they started |
| Those 3 options right there is what 'writing yourself into a corner' means. The problem isn't that he died, but that it didn't feel like it was built up right. The feeling that you wanna invoke in the readers when Aqua's drowning is a sense of sadness, acceptance and understanding as to why this had to be done. The feelings it actually invoked were shock, confusion and for some, 'he's just gonna wake up in a hospital next chapter'. That alone is proof that this wasn't a great conclusion in any way. Aqua should've died, I agree. He's been saying he'll die to avenge Ai, or rather he CAN'T die till he avenges Ai since day one. But when you've been building up a story of hope, of positive change and moving past your hate, an ending like this doesn't quite fit. It'll only throw the audience off, and launch arguments within readers who perform mental gymnastics to justify what happened, and those who feel that it made no sense because of the build up they had seen. Aqua himself was a character who very justifiably, deserved a good ending. As Gorou, he states he could never live for himself, and lived a sad life. As Aqua, he's been living that way again to avenge Ai, but the conclusion his character got was killing himself for someone else again. |
| I like it, personally. Maybe not “love”, but it’s FAR from the worst ending I’ve seen and it wraps thing up pretty well IMO. |
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| Wait, the final chapter is out already? I thought it will be released on November 14? |
yeah it seems like it |
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| “Is the ending that bad?” No, not at all. I have some issues with the ending, or more specifically, the final arc, but it's still a good one. People in general overreact to endings; the biggest example of this is Attack on Titan ending. When it dropped, people acted like it's the end of the world, that now Attack on Titan is trash and everything is bad. But now? Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Kanketsu-hen is the second highest-ranked Attack on Titan entry, and for over a year, has been in the top 30 highest-ranked anime. Of course, a bad ending and a good ending are both personal opinions. Some people truly dislike this ending, but for now, it's just part of the larger hate train Oshi no Ko has received since chapter 122/123. |
| i can say yes or no. No because get rekt of ship bait ending and yes because author make Aqua dirty. Author messed up that character. 😌 Too bad the author kinda give up with his own manga. |
RielHinami14Nov 9, 6:43 PM
| I mean, I guess it is alright. I figured if Aqua was going to die he should had sex with Ruby, but it would not be the most disappointing ending in my honest opinion. |
| Auroraloose's Aurorasimp |
| it has good ideas but it was terribly executed. its a shame because if aka actually spent time for the final arc, it could've been good. but even then, there are issues with how previous arcs were written poorly too. there was no saving it for fans except a forced happy ending with aqua ending up with one girl. |
| Aqua had any number of options in a perfect murder situation for him to kill Kamiki and live for himself without Ruby's reputation having any consequences. Hell, he could probably even spin the story that Kamiki lured him out to kill him and he killed Kamiki in self-defense, given how the whole world falls for his ploy here hook, line and sinker. And why exactly would him having to live knowing what he got away with scot-free? Couldn't he be challenged with the aftermath of his mission having been accomplished? I find it hard to believe that his murder-suicide was the only option he could've gone with or the most compelling one narratively. Those are my main problems logistically with this ending, but my big one is that so many events have centered around Aqua learning to value his own life and that message finally getting through, only for him resorting to this making it feel like Aqua's learned absolutely nothing from his entire journey, and the story validates and glorifies his suicide in the process. |
| Yes it’s a trash ending. Aqua should’ve survived for Ruby’s sake, not commit suicide. Even she ends up feeling her life is basically nothing but a lie. Frick man, I know I’m anime only but I can’t bring myself to watch the next season anymore because I have no faith they will change the ending |
I think the idea that Aqua has to die because this is a revenge story and revenge is bad is a tired trope at this point that misses the nuance of any given "revenge" story. Sometimes closure is a matter of revenge, sometimes we want to read stories where the bad guys need an ass-whooping. I understand that for a film like the The Vanishing, the entire point was that the obsessive need for closure can be self-destructive, hence why it ended the way that it did. Its bleak ending, like all good endings, seeks to reiterate its message, to have its developed themes culminate in an ending that emphasize the main theses of the film.  In all good stories, a good ending is one that seeks to validate the narrative's message. Oshi No Ko is not perfect in that regard. Firstly, much of the reason Aqua pursues this goal is because he feels oddly responsible for Ai's legacy. There is a guilt and trauma for failing to prevent her death, Aqua cannot move on. So we see moments where his revenge is questioned not merely because of the actions he takes but how it became his identity. It affected his relationship with Ruby, his ability to connect with others, to live a life beyond revenge. The narrative often has its twists exist to pull Aqua between pursuing revenge, protecting Ruby, and valuing his own second life as beyond just a second chance on Ai's behalf. Aqua essentially committed suicide here, and I am not wholly convinced it was actually justified. Does Aqua dying really cement that running message of him valuing his life? No, not really. You could say that this is to emphasize how self-destructive revenge is, but Hikaru does die. Aqua wanted that to happen, and was willing to die to make it happen. So it does not work that way either, at least perfectly. It comes off as neither pro or anti-revenge, strangely enough. It just is. It wants to be bittersweet, but the story does this by taking the middle of the road approach that does not accept its own themes. Commit to your themes, or at least one of them. If you want to be anti-revenge, portray Aqua's sacrifice as pointless, tragically so, or anything less than heroic. Have him succumb to his revenge as tragedy, not a display of bravery. If you want to be pro-living your life, do not have a character as smart as Aqua kill himself in a murder-suicide. Some say killing Aqua was brave and unconventional, but I disagree. It was the most conventional way to end your story on an emotional note. |
PeripheralVisionNov 10, 11:30 PM
| Auroraloose's Aurorasimp |
| I think the ending would fit if it had better overall execution, but from what I've read? It's a mess. It’s far from the worst I’ve encountered, there are certainly worse ones. Aka's handling of the final arcs depends on how satisfied the readers are but I’m not inclined to continue with his future work. |
| People, seriously, can you wait at least a couple of days until the last chapter comes out? It just amazes me how people over-dramatize every new chapter without even trying to wait until the story actually ends. |
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Reply to HoangNguyen2107
RobertBobert said:
People, seriously, can you wait at least a couple of days until the last chapter comes out? It just amazes me how people over-dramatize every new chapter without even trying to wait until the story actually ends.
People, seriously, can you wait at least a couple of days until the last chapter comes out? It just amazes me how people over-dramatize every new chapter without even trying to wait until the story actually ends.
The final chapter been leaked for days now
We know what happens in the last chapter,even if it wasnt leaked,with the way 165 was written,it wouldnt take a genius to know thay 166 will just be ppl move on fron Aqua's death
Also,for most manga,the "final chapter" often serves as a epilogue with the 2nd to last being the "ending"
So me talking about "the ending" is very normal and not "why cant peopke be patient and wait"
| @HoangNguyen2107 Are you sure? The final chapter will be released the day after tomorrow, but all the so-called leaks that I found on the Internet describe two chapters before that. And yes, no matter what the leaks are, they still need to be confirmed. Which obviously won't happen before the release of the original chapter. |
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