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Nov 3, 2024 8:34 PM
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i just finished watching this, and honestly, i can’t wrap my head around why it’s considered the most highly rated anime of all time. sure, the animation is nice, but it’s just another mediocre fantasy anime at the end of the day. the story isn’t even that impressive, and let’s talk about frieren, she’s basically emotionless and kinda hard to like. i don’t get why people are so into her, and it’s the same deal with the other female leads

is it just me, or does it feel really overrated? even some lower tier isekai did a way better job at storytelling and character development than this. is it all just because it looks good, has high production values? i’m really not seeing the hype :(
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Nov 3, 2024 8:53 PM
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the point of Frieren is to watch the characters grow. Based on what you wrote about the female cast and being "into them" I'm guessing you were watching from a gooner mindset since some gooners attached to it with fanart. The actual story is about characters, learning/growth, and relationships (in a general sense, not specifically in a romantic/sexual way) though. Frieren being somewhat emotionless is the point as you watch her grow through her relationship with Fern and make up for what she never valued with Himmel and party, and understand how much they affected her. She was not made for people to be horny over like a female isekai character (and neither are any of the characters)

it's not my #1 anime of all time, but I did give it a 10/10, in my eyes I've never seen a fantasy anime - definitely not isekai - have as much emotion behind it. The phenomenal animation is just a bonus
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Nov 3, 2024 8:56 PM
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This is more of a "I don't like it, so it sucks" post ngl
Nov 3, 2024 8:57 PM
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Did you really create an alt just to make this post or something
Nov 3, 2024 8:59 PM
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Did you really create an alt just to make this post or something
@SCAREDgorilla this is my main account, not alt. i just joined mal
Nov 3, 2024 8:59 PM
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This is more of a "I don't like it, so it sucks" post ngl
@natrelll did you even read the post? or are you dyslexic?
Nov 3, 2024 9:06 PM
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I am not the biggest fan of the anime, but the fanart and hentai is absolute fire.
Nov 3, 2024 9:09 PM
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It's overrated, but I understand why so many people love it to the point of it being the highest-rated anime.

Simply put, Frieren does an excellent job of balancing various themes, ranging from romance to tragic moments, and from relaxing scenes to intense action sequences.

For example, a few months ago, I discussed this series with a friend who suggested that, in his opinion, Frieren should be tagged as Iyashikei. On the other hand, if you browse the Frieren sub-discussion forums, you’ll find that some people describe it as a battle (action) shounen. Yet Frieren isn't an action series or Iyashikei, yet it manages to evoke such diverse interpretations among its viewers.
Nov 3, 2024 9:12 PM
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Did you binge ?

When watching it every week I thought it would be really painful to binge Frieren but if you watch one episode a week the pacing feel much more natural so it's more enjoyable that way.

If you did (I see you already have the 2nd season in your list) don't binge the 2nd season and come again to share your impressions when it ends.


About the female characters Frieren and Fern are comedy most of the time yet I see a lot of poetry in them building their friendship between them. That's what I liked about them
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i really dont get it as well, are ppl too lazy to find the overrated threads that already exist and comment on those ones instead of creating the same threads, copy and pastin the same points over and over again. I really dont get it, is it just me?
Nov 3, 2024 9:30 PM
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Did you binge ?

When watching it every week I thought it would be really painful to binge Frieren but if you watch one episode a week the pacing feel much more natural so it's more enjoyable that way.

If you did (I see you already have the 2nd season in your list) don't binge the 2nd season and come again to share your impressions when it ends.


About the female characters Frieren and Fern are comedy most of the time yet I see a lot of poetry in them building their friendship between them. That's what I liked about them
@DragyG yes, i did. i was watching it little by little since the 1st ep dropped. i kinda liked it at first; the himmel hero and the other stuff were actually wholesome and good to watch, but later it just kept going downhill. it felt like i was watching a filler, if i'm being honest. i lost interest in all the characters, and i was just watching for the beautiful animation and music it had. and that's the reason why i put its second season on my list :p
Nov 3, 2024 9:35 PM
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I think is the age of the person who sees it and the life lived.

I am already on my 30s, and Frieren hits home, the friends you left behind, the people who dies and you can never talk to them or see them, how you have to move on, the routines in life, to like the small things, the regrets you feel when you never said the things you guess you should have said, how the world changes its rules and you start to get behind, the new generations and how sometime they remember you the past times but also how they are in some way better and freer than yourself.

I just think if I have watched this anime in my teens or in my 20s, I just have felt it very boring. But I watched on my 30s, and it just hits home, and I loved it.
Nov 3, 2024 9:36 PM
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A lot of people felt it was a 9 or a 10 for them. That's all. it met or exceeded their expectations of what it would be based on what they knew. (Which, for most, wasn't a score.)

In contrast, you watched it and are looking for the show to justify its score--a completely different interaction. It's easier to beat people's expectations before hype peaks because hype tends to raise the next person's expectations even higher.

And while plenty of people gave it a 9 or a 10, plenty gave it lower. a high score doesn't suddenly mean it's going to be everyone's favorite or even something everyone likes.

In short, there isn't much to get. The score people enter means 1 thing to them, but the aggregate of those scores means something different to the people paying attention to them. Throw in a dash of the fact that we're all a little bad at statistics since statistics aren't very intuitive, and here we are.

If you don't think about the score when you watch an anime, you'll probably enjoy it more, even if MAL loses some engagement.
Nov 3, 2024 9:43 PM
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I think is the age of the person who sees it and the life lived.

I am already on my 30s, and Frieren hits home, the friends you left behind, the people who dies and you can never talk to them or see them, how you have to move on, the routines in life, to like the small things, the regrets you feel when you never said the things you guess you should have said, how the world changes its rules and you start to get behind, the new generations and how sometime they remember you the past times but also how they are in some way better and freer than yourself.

I just think if I have watched this anime in my teens or in my 20s, I just have felt it very boring. But I watched on my 30s, and it just hits home, and I loved it.(×2) Well said by the way!
Nov 3, 2024 9:44 PM
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I see what you are saying, and I’m not writing to agree or disagree with you, just wanted say my opinion.

So in the end it’s impossible to say what’s the best anime of all time. It will be different for everyone. As far as highest rated goes it’s really by how ppl is willing to give it a 10/10. Dosent mean it’s there favorite. (Hell, I know some ppl who only give 1s , if they didn’t like it or 10s if they liked it, on MAL , nothing in between . ) In that regard im actually quite happy that Frieren is #1 and One pice Fan letter is #2 atm. (Never thought I’d see the day that anything one pice would be #2 of all time)

I don’t think Frieren is the best anime ever, but I do think it was made in a way where lots of ppl will give it 9s and 10s because it was made to be likeable by most. Instead of something that a few might think “best anime ever” but majority disagrees, it’s more of a majority liked it so they gave 9s and 10s even tho they don’t think “greatest of all time” it was likeable enough for majority to give high scores. Thats what I think atleast. I gave Frieren a 9, I did like it for what it was, I like slice of life ish / adventure combos stuff now days.

And I do agree that there’s a lot of lower tier anime I thought was better for sure. But I also feel like I see why it is number 1 atm imo as I said above. And I like when top 5 changes, especially by something new, so I was happy when Frieren became #1. so looking for to what takes over Frierens spot one day.
Nov 3, 2024 9:53 PM
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kiritodagamer said:
@SCAREDgorilla this is my main account, not alt. i just joined mal

So you joined MAL just to make this post. Makes sense.
Nov 3, 2024 9:55 PM
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@SCAREDgorilla this is my main account, not alt. i just joined mal

So you joined MAL just to make this post. Makes sense.
@GTRaijin nope, i ironically posted it lol. i didn't know this was top rated here, and wanted to know if other people also felt this way
Nov 3, 2024 9:58 PM
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@DragyG yes, i did. i was watching it little by little since the 1st ep dropped. i kinda liked it at first; the himmel hero and the other stuff were actually wholesome and good to watch, but later it just kept going downhill. it felt like i was watching a filler, if i'm being honest. i lost interest in all the characters, and i was just watching for the beautiful animation and music it had. and that's the reason why i put its second season on my list :p

If you feel like Frieren had filler than you’ve missed the entire point of the show
Nov 3, 2024 10:10 PM
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Idk why people start to shit on any anime that reaches like top 5 highest rated or top 1 highest rated spots. FMA:B had it's #1 spot for so many years because it is actually overall amazing but you would still get people who hate on it for fuck knows why.

I would say Frieren deserves it's spot not because it's the best anime ever to exist or it's the best piece of fiction, etc but because it has pretty much everything you would expect from this type of anime done magnificently. Also, you can recommend it to almost anyone of any age since it doesn't have certain things that would not be for everyone (gore, ecchi fanservice, etc.).

My favourite anime isn't even in like top 100 highest rated list but to me personally, it's just that amazing even though I wouldn't recommend it to everyone and you don't see me telling it to others that it's the best anime of all time.
Nov 3, 2024 10:20 PM
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kiritodagamer said:
i just finished watching this, and honestly, i can’t wrap my head around why it’s considered the most highly rated anime of all time. sure, the animation is nice, but it’s just another mediocre fantasy anime at the end of the day. the story isn’t even that impressive, and let’s talk about frieren, she’s basically emotionless and kinda hard to like. i don’t get why people are so into her, and it’s the same deal with the other female leads

is it just me, or does it feel really overrated? even some lower tier isekai did a way better job at storytelling and character development than this. is it all just because it looks good, has high production values? i’m really not seeing the hype :(

Why do they allow anyone to post in threads? Like I don’t really like Jujutsu Kaisen, one of the most beloved Shounens right now but I don’t go to the MAL community to whine about it.
Nov 3, 2024 10:31 PM

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kiritodagamer said:
let’s talk about frieren, she’s basically emotionless

What emotion did she not display in the show?

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it’s the same deal with the other female leads

Ah I see your problem now
Nov 3, 2024 10:35 PM
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parts of your criticisms are right. it's an incredible show but doesn't deserve to be the highest rated of all time. top 100 surely
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I am not the biggest fan of the anime, but the fanart and hentai is absolute fire.

how many times have you jcked off to them
Nov 3, 2024 10:42 PM

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And you will never get it. Imagine being this stupid that you can’t even get Frieren
Nov 3, 2024 11:08 PM

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Here is the real kicker…

What do you think is “the best anime of all time?”

I find that people who claim to not get it are basically biased for another style / genre of anime, and don’t even try to understand other people’s perspectives.

One big red flag is the “surface level similarities” complaint, which means you didn’t even try to follow or pay attrition to the deeper differences that made Frieren unique from other anime, of the same genre and from other genres.

The other red flag is “isekai anime is bad” complaint [ “lower tier isekai” ], which means that you have pre-bias against the isekai genre, but this genre has actually had some of the best anime in recent years.

Basically, it boils down to your own personal opinion, which is just that, your own personal opinion, but there are millions of people around the world disagreeing with your comment.

And don’t even try to claim I’m a zealot, I don’t think it is the best anime ever, but I disagree with all posts that read like yours.
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Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.

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it's just growth. I liked the anime and I liked frieren as a character a lot. imagine being over 1000 years and watch your friends pass away. it's fun to watch and the way she gets closer to fern and stark is enjoyable. when they met another elf in the snow(I forgot his name) I was so excited. she met somebody else that can emphasize with her. the fighting at the end of the anime I didn't really enjoy but it is part of the journey. I agree this anime is overrated but that usually happens to new anime that gets popular like oshi no ko for example. in a few years the rating will probably drop.
Nov 3, 2024 11:39 PM

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Ig it depends on what you like, if u we’re expecting smth rly exciting or thought provoking, then you set your expectations wrong. Frieren is abt the little things in life, atleast from my perspective it is. I had no expectations for this show and went in blind, which is prolly why I like it a lot. It even introduced me to Milet (well not rly I first heard her in Demon Slayer opening), and now she’s one of my fav musical artists along with TK from Ling Tosite Sigure, Yoasobi and Creepy Nuts, so I’m grateful for that too.
Nov 4, 2024 12:56 AM
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A kid with limited knowledge about the world and life won't get it.
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You don't?

Well, that's a shame.

Lets accept the random guys on the internet wont always have the same opinion as you and move on with our lives.
Nov 4, 2024 2:23 AM

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It's at the top for a reason. Lots of people resonate with it, and it's definitely not a mediocre show.

And you said some other lower tier isekai shows are better than Frieren? Maybe you would like to share with us the names of those shows that you feel are better than Frieren?
Nov 4, 2024 2:59 AM

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No, Frieren is not another average fantasy anime, the plot is good even though Frieren focuses more on the characters and the message, Frieren's character is not "without emotion" and she is very easy to like because it is easy to identify with her situation and Frieren's storytelling is one of the best.

I hope I helped you.
Nov 4, 2024 4:39 AM
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Maybe you're not very smart?
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stick to marvel movies bro
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Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.

Nov 4, 2024 5:15 AM
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kiritodagamer said:
even some lower tier isekai did a way better job at storytelling and character development than this


What isekais are we talking about?
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go back to SAO, Kiritod
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lmfao, too much bait these days.
No, this isn't my signature.
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@natrelll did you even read the post? or are you dyslexic?

I read it yea but I don't see how dyslexia would apply so this
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GUYS PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS THAN ME....HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW....HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE....WHY IS THIS HAPPENING....HOW CAN THIS ANIME EXIST AS TOP IF IT DOES NOT ALIGN WITH MY OPINIONS....IS THE WORLD BROKE????? ARE WE LIVING IN A SIMULATION????.....WHY DID MAL NOT ASK ME TO REVIEW THIS FIRST BEFORE ALLOWING IT TO BE NO.1....WHY DID MADHOUSE NOT ASK ME FIRST BEFORE PRODUCING THIS ANIME....PLEASE IN FUTURE ASK FOR MY BLESSING ON ALL POPULAR ANIME BEFORE ALLOWING THEM TO EXIST
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let’s talk about frieren, she’s basically emotionless

What emotion did she not display in the show?

kiritodagamer said:
it’s the same deal with the other female leads

Ah I see your problem now
@Neterosan

No point even trying to reason with them, they will double down to make their point seem valid but they were probably watching the show while scrolling Tiktok to keep their attention span alive and missed half of the scenes.

In reality even without checking episodes I can remember so many moments when Frieren and other characters displayed many different emotions ranging from tears all the way to anger or silly fun. Frieren actually cries in the first and second episodes but people like this guy will call her "emotionless", now that I think about it this is so ridiculous that maybe it is bait and we fell for it.
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I also found having Frieren and Fern, two very cold characters who don't show much emotion, as protagonists a bit odd. They often lack motivation and complain how bothersome everything is that it can become difficult to engage with the story. I generally really liked the scenes between Frieren and Fern as well as the ones between Fern and Stark with how they made the characters come out of their shell a bit more, but they were too few and far between to carry the anime for me.

Frieren is not a bad anime of course - it has its emotional and comedic moments, it has great animations and music and has barely any drama which makes it a great comfort show - but I personally don't agree with the hype.


Another major thing that threw me off with Frieren was its approach to fantasy. It kind of appears like a more grounded story that slowly introduces more information over time, but simultaneously I couldn't help but feel that it was extremely shallow that trying to puzzle together the lore just wasn't much fun. It often felt more like a collection of cool ideas that don't really fit together. The story seems to get better further into the manga at least.
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I don't want to be elitist and claim, that you don't appreciate it only because you don't watched very much, and you are not experienced weeb like I am. Of course, I respect your opinion like every other, even though I totally don't agree with you. But still I recommend to rewatch it after few years, when you watch more series, especially fantasy. I can even recommend some, if you want to.
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What an absolute goober why even post this thread anyways?

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I don't want to pretend to know how old you are or what you have been through, but most people I know who absolutely love this show are a little bit older OR have gone through some stuff in their life. If someone doesn't have the emotional maturity to relate to the content, it definitely won't hit as hard. Empathy simply isn't enough. At least, in my humble opinion. 😀
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kiritodagamer said:
i can’t wrap my head around why it’s considered the most highly rated anime of all time.


It comes down to vote manipulation using bot accounts in a manner that is more sophisticated than MAL can detect.

If the manipulator had decided to push Dungeon Meshi to #1 we'd have this conversation about Dungeon Meshi instead.
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i can’t wrap my head around why it’s considered the most highly rated anime of all time.


It comes down to vote manipulation using bot accounts in a manner that is more sophisticated than MAL can detect.

If the manipulator had decided to push Dungeon Meshi to #1 we'd have this conversation about Dungeon Meshi instead.
@TransferUser Dude, do you have any proof other than "it seems so to me"?
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What an original and unexpected thread about "why Frieren is so popular" and what a coincidence the account was created very recently.

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What an absolute goober why even post this thread anyways?
@Kiryotsu

To troll guys like you duh. And judging by your temper he succeeded.
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I don't want to be elitist and claim, that you don't appreciate it only because you don't watched very much, and you are not experienced weeb like I am. Of course, I respect your opinion like every other, even though I totally don't agree with you. But still I recommend to rewatch it after few years, when you watch more series, especially fantasy. I can even recommend some, if you want to.
@Memowynekromanta

You should improve your troll detection skills if anything.
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i really dont get it as well, are ppl too lazy to find the overrated threads that already exist and comment on those ones instead of creating the same threads, copy and pastin the same points over and over again. I really dont get it, is it just me?
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This is a troll thread so obviouslyty they will make a fresh one
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