| I have a few ones: If he kill the person who have killed(or have really hurt them in any abusive way) one of his close people for no or stupid reason (it's not vengeance but consequences imo) If he kills a pedo or a rapist , those persons DON'T deserve life to be honest , you can't destroying someone life while keeping yours life , that's just not how things actually work , and even less if you are free |
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| To protect oneself or somebody else from aggression. |
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| Aside from obvious cases such as self defense and national defense: Those that deny sisters and brothers their natural right need to be punished. |
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| The only killing by civilian/police which I ain't blaming is self-defence or defence of someone else for which is required to kill the attacker. And the military units who kill enemies due to being in the war-zones area. |
| I am against the death penalty, but I respect death caused by revenge and self-defense, but it is dangerous to allow these things because people are fools. |
Commit_Crime said: Those that deny sisters and brothers their natural right need to be punished. True, but not with death, instead they should read stories about consensual family romances. |
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Reply to Zarutaku
Commit_Crime said:
Those that deny sisters and brothers their natural right need to be punished.
Those that deny sisters and brothers their natural right need to be punished.
True, but not with death, instead they should read stories about consensual family romances.
| @Zarutaku Interesting perspective instead they should read stories about consensual family romances. Such as??? Could you specify which stories??? |
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@Zarutaku
Interesting perspective
Such as??? Could you specify which stories???
Interesting perspective
instead they should read stories about consensual family romances.
Such as??? Could you specify which stories???
| @Commit_Crime I think he meant that it should be consensual and not forced, I agree with that, we just can't let incestuous couples have children for sad reasons, but if it's consensual that's fine, they just can't reproduce. |
Reply to Commit_Crime
@Zarutaku
Interesting perspective
Such as??? Could you specify which stories???
Interesting perspective
instead they should read stories about consensual family romances.
Such as??? Could you specify which stories???
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Reply to Absurdo_N
@Commit_Crime
I think he meant that it should be consensual and not forced, I agree with that, we just can't let incestuous couples have children for sad reasons, but if it's consensual that's fine, they just can't reproduce.
I think he meant that it should be consensual and not forced, I agree with that, we just can't let incestuous couples have children for sad reasons, but if it's consensual that's fine, they just can't reproduce.
| @Absurdo_N First generation inbreeding isn't as dangerous as it is painted out to be. Most commonly, inbreeding shows its downsides a couple generations down the line. There is an increased risk of recessive gene disorders. I am not really into biology but from what I understand, this is because those disorders need both parents to have the mutated gene and siblings will obviously share it, thereby allowing the disorder to manifest in the child. A healthy pair of siblings will give birth to a better offspring than someone who has child with a non-related person while carrying an ugly autosomal dominant disorder (requires only one parent to have the mutated gene). But the latter happens constantly. If siblings shouldn't reproduce, then so shouldn't people with inheritable diseases. |
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@Absurdo_N
First generation inbreeding isn't as dangerous as it is painted out to be. Most commonly, inbreeding shows its downsides a couple generations down the line. There is an increased risk of recessive gene disorders. I am not really into biology but from what I understand, this is because those disorders need both parents to have the mutated gene and siblings will obviously share it, thereby allowing the disorder to manifest in the child.
A healthy pair of siblings will give birth to a better offspring than someone who has child with a non-related person while carrying an ugly autosomal dominant disorder (requires only one parent to have the mutated gene). But the latter happens constantly.
If siblings shouldn't reproduce, then so shouldn't people with inheritable diseases.
First generation inbreeding isn't as dangerous as it is painted out to be. Most commonly, inbreeding shows its downsides a couple generations down the line. There is an increased risk of recessive gene disorders. I am not really into biology but from what I understand, this is because those disorders need both parents to have the mutated gene and siblings will obviously share it, thereby allowing the disorder to manifest in the child.
A healthy pair of siblings will give birth to a better offspring than someone who has child with a non-related person while carrying an ugly autosomal dominant disorder (requires only one parent to have the mutated gene). But the latter happens constantly.
If siblings shouldn't reproduce, then so shouldn't people with inheritable diseases.
| @Commit_Crime I do not agree that people with hereditary diseases reproduce, I will not stop them, but I will not support people who know that their children will born with more obstacles than others. I know this is a very cruel thought and that I am stupid for it, but I do not like suffering. |
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| @Zarutaku Das ist ein gigaromantische geshichte :`) Ich habe gedacht dass meine Deutsch stunden sinnlos war aber dieser Artikel war der Grund. |
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@Commit_Crime
I do not agree that people with hereditary diseases reproduce, I will not stop them, but I will not support people who know that their children will born with more obstacles than others.
I know this is a very cruel thought and that I am stupid for it, but I do not like suffering.
I do not agree that people with hereditary diseases reproduce, I will not stop them, but I will not support people who know that their children will born with more obstacles than others.
I know this is a very cruel thought and that I am stupid for it, but I do not like suffering.
| @Absurdo_N Look, I don't judge your morality or anything, it's ok :))) I actually also don't like suffering :))) My view point is that you roll the dice every time a child is born. Genetically unhealthy siblings will have more chance for a bad roll, unhealthy normal couple will have better chances of a healthier offspring but the point is that healthy siblings will once again have better chances for a healthy child then those previous two categories. I would rather be born to a pair of siblings who have good genes then to a pair of strangers with bad genes. But the worst possibility is to be born to a sibling couple with bad genes because as I have said, some disorders that didn't manifest for generations might manifest in the offspring. My solution to the problem? I forgot (I am 20th gen inbred) |
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@Absurdo_N
Look, I don't judge your morality or anything, it's ok :))) I actually also don't like suffering :)))
My view point is that you roll the dice every time a child is born. Genetically unhealthy siblings will have more chance for a bad roll, unhealthy normal couple will have better chances of a healthier offspring but the point is that healthy siblings will once again have better chances for a healthy child then those previous two categories.
I would rather be born to a pair of siblings who have good genes then to a pair of strangers with bad genes. But the worst possibility is to be born to a sibling couple with bad genes because as I have said, some disorders that didn't manifest for generations might manifest in the offspring.
My solution to the problem? I forgot (I am 20th gen inbred)
Look, I don't judge your morality or anything, it's ok :))) I actually also don't like suffering :)))
My view point is that you roll the dice every time a child is born. Genetically unhealthy siblings will have more chance for a bad roll, unhealthy normal couple will have better chances of a healthier offspring but the point is that healthy siblings will once again have better chances for a healthy child then those previous two categories.
I would rather be born to a pair of siblings who have good genes then to a pair of strangers with bad genes. But the worst possibility is to be born to a sibling couple with bad genes because as I have said, some disorders that didn't manifest for generations might manifest in the offspring.
My solution to the problem? I forgot (I am 20th gen inbred)
| @Commit_Crime Thank you very much, your words enlightened me. |
| Self (or close ones) defense. If your life is being threatened then you have the right to defense yourself, even if that causes the death of the attacker I can also understand it in cases of speople that just causes harm and keep doing it, like serial killers and serial rapists that harms too many people |
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| So you're fearing people who did harm, abuse or kill someone and you deal with this fear by simply murdering them - like we're back in the stone age. Pretty hypocritical Furthermore you think that you can A) Decide which people deserve to live and which do not and B) believe in it "actually working", while crime and murder rates are on an alltime high This is ridiculous^^ |
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| Self-defense is the obvious one. Many situations in war are also justifiable. And if the person is a bad person enough to justify their killing them. I'm a moral relativist, and I believe people can completely change at any moment of their lives. But I also believe that some actions are irredeemable. An notorious case will be Hitler. I hope I don't need to explain what he did, and just the fact he did such stuff justifies murdering him, even if he regrets his actions. |
| If someone disagrees with my opinion on anime, likes One Piece, or if they make fun of me, then killing them should be legal. |
| 3 main conditions -theft -self defense -invasion of locked house I still think it should be a last resort. I would say theft is up for debate if the gov is willing to pay for damages. If the gov pays you for the damage you can remove the option. Breaking or entering can be an excuse since you could say fear based self defense. Who would not freak out about seeing a stranger near them when they wake up. Lol |
rohan121Sep 1, 2024 7:07 PM
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@Zarutaku
Das ist ein gigaromantische geshichte :`) Ich habe gedacht dass meine Deutsch stunden sinnlos war aber dieser Artikel war der Grund.
Das ist ein gigaromantische geshichte :`) Ich habe gedacht dass meine Deutsch stunden sinnlos war aber dieser Artikel war der Grund.
| @Commit_Crime Right? They are a beacon of hope that maybe one day incest couples can live and show their love without fear of getting canceled. |
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| Morally for me, never. Circumstantially tho, probably only in life or death situations. I'd like to say I could take revenge for something done to a person I love, for example like rape or murder, but I think I'd just be lying to myself as I'm not as confrontational as I may think. |
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| You should read less X-Men comics. That's all I can say in response to this badly-made thread. |
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You should read less X-Men comics. That's all I can say in response to this badly-made thread.
LenRea said: Ca you please tell me what is the LINK between my question and X-men bro wtfYou should read less X-Men comics. |
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| Killing mosquitoes is always justified and legitimate. |
| I can't stand so called "moralists" that always try to jump through hoops to defend their bloodlust. One could only properly defend unintended death from defense of one's self or another. |
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| A killstreak of Rampage or above is pretty legit. |
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| Does it even matter? When Near Term Human Extinction arrives, everyone will be murdering each other...with zero law enforcement being able to control the uncontrollable mass murders when the literal Apocalypse inevitably arrives. Anyone, who fusses about morals, is a moralfag imo. |
| Here is my Pixiv account of my hentai drawings..... https://www.pixiv.net/en/users/104739065 Here is my blog.... https://theendofindustrialcivilization.blogspot.com/?m=1 |
| Pretty much only as a last resort, in a life and death situation. Vigilantism is very bad in my opinion, even if you think someone is better off dead than alive, it is not your job as a person to judge them. If you ask me, a person who kills out of vigintalism and expects to be treated as a hero is only a hair away from being a regular murderer who kills for self satsifaction or gain. How often have you seen these maniacs who go to protests and grievously injure someone who is ideologically opposed to them? You're gonna have a lot more of that if vigilantism was not looked down upon. You are going to have family vendetas where you killed someone because he was a piece of shit, so now their brother kills 2 people from your family in retaliation and it keeps going and going until one of the families goes extinct. I don't think you are placing enough respect on the fact that murder is a society ending force that cannot be taken even the least bit lightly. I honestly think a lot of people are strangely non-judgemental of murder, like oh yeah sure the rapists and the molesters can go to hell but who cares about taking another mans life? Bah. He was an adult so he probably deserved to die anyway :) Maybe video games really cause violence after all ? kekw |
AnjuroSep 6, 2024 10:03 AM
| Violation of the non-aggression principle, someone who tries to rob me or someone else, someone who wants to physically assault me or someone else. If you approach to my car wanting to fight or assault me, I don't know if you have weapons or not, so very likely I'll shoot you |
| In my opinion, taking a life is only acceptable as a last resort; i.e., in a moment of self-defense when someone is actively threatening your life or someone else's life at that very moment. If that's happening, and it's either you or them, then I think it's morally permissible to kill in a life-or-death situation like that. However, if a dangerous person has been subdued and captured, then there's no longer a need to take their life. If they've murdered people, lock them up and never let them out. But I'm firmly against the death penalty for a few reasons: 1.) Later evidence can exonerate a falsely-accused criminal. You can free a wrongfully-imprisoned person, but you can't resurrect a wrongfully-executed person. 2.) Even in cases where a murderer's guilt is unambiguous, I do not like the state having the power to decide who lives and who dies. To me, it is better to keep murderers separate from the rest of society, but still alive. |
That's all there is to say..stay out of prison  |
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