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Aug 16, 5:27 AM
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aurora_yuuki said:
@DragyG Better than even Masachika?

That's why I say 'Before it happens'
Aug 16, 5:29 AM
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Falroth said:
I know this will be an unpopular opinion, but I absolutely loathe Ayano.

Her dialogue is so exhausting, takes forever for her to say a sentence. I guess I just hate that Ninja Archetype character.
It's so over done and boring, she might actually kill this anime for me.

Hoping for more interesting episodes in the future but the series has hit a low point for me unfortunately.

I would have preferred it to focus more on Alya and Kuze in a light Rom/Com setting. They've added so many
characters to the story so quickly I just feel it's diluting it all. Also student council stuff isn't very interesting on top of it.

Will watch a few more episodes in hopes for improvement.

Drop. This story isn't what you expect it to be. There is a big family drama and the elections / student council is exactly the frame in which the romance will progress.
Aug 16, 6:47 AM

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This ep honestly just sucked. I lowered my score cause of this ep. Also it’s becoming a problem if Alya who is suppose to be mc is now pretty much a background char. It’s a real problem id the secondary chars do more to the plot than the female mc. Score went from a 9/10 to a 8/10 for me.
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This ep honestly just sucked. I lowered my score cause of this ep. Also it’s becoming a problem if Alya who is suppose to be mc is now pretty much a background char. It’s a real problem id the secondary chars do more to the plot than the female mc. Score went from a 9/10 to a 8/10 for me.
@spiritualfox2016 Aww.


But I'd appreciate it if you watched till the end. Alya will have her character development arc in V3 - the adaptation of which will span from Episodes 9 to 12.


It is worth it. Trust me. (⁠◡⁠ ⁠ω⁠ ⁠◡⁠)
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
Aug 16, 7:51 AM
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I'ma be honest I'm getting bored from this student council stuff feels like I have watched this kind of anime before and that family drama too there trying to make the mc some kinda prodigy or something and I really don't like characters that think they have everything under control and everything happens according to them, I'm seriously think of dropping this it started as a lighthearted rom-com, but now it's trying to pull something tragic 🤷idk how to explain.
Aug 16, 8:43 AM
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bro why can’t ts js be a regular romance i cannot take this student council shit seriously 😭😭 i hope its not like this in the manga bc these mfs acting like npcs
Aug 16, 9:09 AM

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bro why can’t ts js be a regular romance i cannot take this student council shit seriously 😭😭 i hope its not like this in the manga bc these mfs acting like npcs
@aqoury It's all of them at the same time.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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@spiritualfox2016 Aww.


But I'd appreciate it if you watched till the end. Alya will have her character development arc in V3 - the adaptation of which will span from Episodes 9 to 12.


It is worth it. Trust me. (⁠◡⁠ ⁠ω⁠ ⁠◡⁠)
@aurora_yuuki I didn't say I was dropping it, all I said was that the ep was bad
Aug 16, 1:12 PM

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@aurora_yuuki I didn't say I was dropping it, all I said was that the ep was bad
@spiritualfox2016 I know you did not. I was simply there for you to assure you.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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So the student council thing is finally taking off.. damn tho that black haired sub really made things more fun lol

Behold of my awesomeness~
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But my feels.
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It's a 10/10 for me so far. An outstanding show all around. I'm always looking forward to what's coming next.

uncleqrow said:
Masha once again proved why Masha x Masachika is best ship in this series so far

I do like their dynamic. But I still like Alya the most.
Aug 16, 8:04 PM
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it is peak. it showed how Masachika and Masha were hiding a side of themselves for a reason. it shows how much they cared of something. (except for Masachika he was doing it for his personal gain). and it also depicted how serious is Masachika in helping Alya to become the student council president
Aug 16, 8:42 PM
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the show is good in terms of fan service + character design + ep, but the serious parts does not fit well I think.
still a nice show to have for this summer.
Aug 16, 10:55 PM

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Wow didn't expect the cast size to increase anytime soon but fair enough.

I like how they sprinkled in more of Masachika and Yuki's childhood with Ayano's appearance, honestly they've built that plot point pretty well imo and it's quite hooking learning more.

You know Ayano's got that freak in her when she's able to even weird out Yuki. She spat out that first quote about the effects of Masachika's words on her like Yuki talks about incest, which i had too triple check as well on cus shit felt surreal the first time reading.
Lmao i do like how Yuki is also self aware about how she acts sometimes, aiming for that "final boss" vibe and trying to contain herself at school when Masachika praises her. Also how she occasionally breaks the fourth wall is a nice bit for her every few episode.

Masha's scene was pretty short but sweet, fleshed out her character more as well as a bit of Masachika's on their siblings, but honestly she still feels like an enigma to me.

Ending was pretty interesting, Taniyama made one hell of an entrance and first impressions.
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It's a 10/10 for me so far. An outstanding show all around. I'm always looking forward to what's coming next.

uncleqrow said:
Masha once again proved why Masha x Masachika is best ship in this series so far

I do like their dynamic. But I still like Alya the most.
@CarbonMD Same. Damn, you must read the LN, amigo.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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The sibling duo being from a noble family to me felt unnecessary and cheap, though I'll see how it plays out. Taniyama's "challenge" also felt pretty contrived, like the story checking off another student council anime check-mark
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Is Ayano a robot? She literally has no personality lol

Masha and Masachika They're cute together, I'm starting to think she might be that girl from the flashback he had at the beginning of the anime.

It was an "ok" episode, but by far the worst so far.
Aug 17, 9:18 AM
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Pretty intense at the start, and more intense at the end
Aug 17, 3:44 PM
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That was a very sweet episode. Heartwarming.

And then that b came in guns blazing at the end for no good reason. Calm down and gtfo from those two with that energy.
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@cooldogmom Aw, an Alya fan at last. Most people put the rest of the female characters (barring Sayaka) above Alya as the main heroine, but it's nice to see there are still people who love her.
@aurora_yuuki I don't know how people aren't a fan of her. She's just a big cutie around Kuze but appears to be a tsundere around everyone else. I hate that the focus is currently being taken away from her. Hopefully it gets better ahhh
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans"


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@aurora_yuuki I don't know how people aren't a fan of her. She's just a big cutie around Kuze but appears to be a tsundere around everyone else. I hate that the focus is currently being taken away from her. Hopefully it gets better ahhh
@cooldogmom It does get better. From the next episode and onwards, the anime will focus on her character development. She'll shine in the next episode. And Episode 11-12 is going to be even better. She has the most character development out of all the characters in the LN. As an LN reader, I assure you that.


In the meantime, check out the PV for Episode 8. I made a thread. You'll get the picture.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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They downgrade the fan service. I want to see what kind of pantsu Masha is wearing. Because I bet she is wearing a 'awesome" one.

This anime is slowly becoming or generic type of show. Strong start and now its steadily declining.
Aug 17, 10:49 PM

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Good episode. Honestly, I didn't expect the tension at the end with the confrontation and then a cliffhanger. I just hope it’s not some filler debate and actually has some relevance to the plot.

ㅤㅤ I love Nao Tomori ♡
ㅤㅤ友利奈緒のことが大好きです ♥


let's feel good
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Aug 17, 10:51 PM
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Essa terceira garota pelo visto é bem genérica, ate a Alya em certos momentos também é. A menos mediocre das 4 é a Yuki e Masha, pelo menos pra mim
Aug 18, 7:51 AM
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alya is so cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Aug 18, 8:13 AM
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Woo can't wait to see Kuze show her her place
Aug 18, 9:42 AM

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Woo can't wait to see Kuze show her her place
YuushaNi said:
Woo can't wait to see Kuze show her her place




Siding with Kuze against Yuki, are you?
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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YuushaNi said:
Woo can't wait to see Kuze show her her place




Siding with Kuze against Yuki, are you?
@aurora_yuuki Not really, just want to see Taniyama lose
Aug 18, 10:09 AM
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It was funny how Chisaki was looking at the girls playing “poker” and Ayano (sitting next to them) still managed to sneak up behind her
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alya is so cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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alya is so cuteeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee




IKR? She's the cutest thing ever. I love her so much.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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Ayano is really something with her words lol but that montage of her going through strict training as a little kid was cute as heck

Masha is also real cute, saying out loud what she wants to buy when she's one of the people buying it lol

Yuki remains a blast to watch, last boss indeed
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This plot has gotten downright weird. I just wanted a regular ol' high school rom-com. Now we've got these weird "congress" competitions and secret siblings and servants posing as students... And my high school rom-com has warped into a fantasy harem anime. Next thing we will learn this is not really Japan at all but some alternative isekai universe... Then it would all make sense.
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It was great story slowly building up
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It was great story slowly building up
@Ravish2008 So you rated 10/10 without even watching it.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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I just feel like they throw too much at same time we have a family drama and congress at the same time and for a 'romantic comedy'. I try to look at the tags as much places I can and all of them says its Romance and Comedy. We dont have comedy at all and the romance is…..try to exist sometimes. Im sure they gonna have some development later but for now it not working as a romance and even the aspects like family drama or congress is not enough to just to enjoy it. A lot of characters are just one dimensional and annoying for me and I really wait for character development.

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man that taniyama girl sucks lol, I hate her already
4/5


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This anime is getting more and more harem like...

I thought it's gonna be a cute romcom but no, it needs an annoying horny sister, a silent M simp with womb shockwaves, a childhood friend who is the older sister of who should be the love interest...all kinda into the MC, great way of ruining what could have been an enjoyable series

I should really stop picking these anime up, even when it says just romance, the author can't help themselves and just have to put in the harem garbage...nothing makes me dislike anime more than this lazy writing crap

All the most beautiful girls in school loove the generic otaku gacha playing guy who is actually an absolute genius!! lol..sure, keep dreaming boys

That being said, Masha is by far the most interesting character
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It was pretty good I think that way the character were built up were pretty good in this episode.
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Ayano Kimishima is quite the gremlin entering the Student Council, much less to Masachika being pestered by his Gramps from the word of the Suou family aide to track the advances of the siblings in the heated race to become the next Student Council president. Otherwise, it's just school as usual, though Alya continues with her Russian flirting in front of him and his friends so much that they have to give her the leeway...and Takeshi just burst it lols. Of course, Ayano going to see Yuki to report on her own brother...and her description is quite the exaggerated lavish one, on top of the lil' sister's heated ambition to want to take on Alya.

Things in the Student Council is quite the norm for a welcome party to Masachika and Ayano, but Alya being too easy to read is amusing Kenzaki and Sarashina, apart from Masha being weird and Ayano being a literate ninja...thoug she sees Masachika as quite the idol of her eye. And in a game of cards, the 4 girls playing are nice, but when it's left to Yuki and Alya, the latter is clearly struggling, and the sensible Masha just doesn't want to stoke a rivalry with her, even as she cares equally as much for her as sisters. But to Masachika, she's also equally just the same...not knowing that she was the one whom he met when he was young.

Sayaka Taniyama, the previous candidate to challenge Yuki, spites Alya for wanting to rival her for President, and instead, challenges Masachika to a student congress...I swear some people just don't know when to give up...
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Well, a lot went down for sure here. That ninja is certainly interesting for sure. And now accusations against Alya and Kuze are a thing now. Well next time is sure to be interesting, perhaps this will be resolved then?

Also, I swear I've heard that ed song somewhere before, can't remember though.
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I just feel like they throw too much at same time we have a family drama and congress at the same time and for a 'romantic comedy'. I try to look at the tags as much places I can and all of them says its Romance and Comedy. We dont have comedy at all and the romance is…..try to exist sometimes. Im sure they gonna have some development later but for now it not working as a romance and even the aspects like family drama or congress is not enough to just to enjoy it. A lot of characters are just one dimensional and annoying for me and I really wait for character development.

kirA_-_ said:
I really wait for character development.




Which you shall have in tonight's episode.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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@SenpaiTM How did you add a quote under your post?
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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I felt that the drawing and animation quality of episode 7 was worse than the other episodes and the treatment of the main plot was childish
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I felt that the drawing and animation quality of episode 7 was worse than the other episodes and the treatment of the main plot was childish
@bicibici_adam They're saving the budget for V3, which will be the best volume adaptation of the season.
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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funny episode, what good lines to have a double meaning
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SIZE OF ALYA CUP REVEALED
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SIZE OF ALYA CUP REVEALED
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SIZE OF ALYA CUP REVEALED



It wasn't revealed in this episode, what are you on about?
“𝖨𝖿 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝗐𝖾𝗋𝖾 𝗉𝗋𝖾𝖽𝗂𝖼𝗍𝖺𝖻𝗅𝖾, 𝗂𝗍 𝗐𝗈𝗎𝗅𝖽 𝖼𝖾𝖺𝗌𝖾 𝗍𝗈 𝖻𝖾 𝗅𝗂𝖿𝖾 𝖺𝗇𝖽 𝖻𝖾 𝗐𝗂𝗍𝗁𝗈𝗎𝗍 𝖿𝗅𝖺𝗏𝗈𝗋.” – 𝖤𝗅𝖾𝖺𝗇𝗈𝗋 𝖱𝗈𝗈𝗌𝖾𝗏𝖾𝗅𝗍
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WAY COOL Episode, great ending and plot today!
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...and this series went from cute romantic comedy to political drama in the space of 5 minutes.

Still proving to be one of the best shows of the season.
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"His fantastic aggressiveness sent shockwaves through my womb" rofl seriously Ayano? xD

Ganbatte Yuki you can keep on trying. Though I think she is a bit much even though fun.

I need Masha's head pats T-T

Kind of a weird drama going there in the end.
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