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Moppit said: @ejleon To be honest I actually like the diary entries. Romance shows tend to be one sided, either from the male or female perspective. You never get to see how the other side thinks or feels. So to me the romance always look one sided, to the point that the MC is kinda forcing there feelings on to there love interest. As much as I agree with you, I honestly thought I was following both MCs pretty well, but depending on what happens, I could be wrong. |
Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating.  |
Moppit said: @ejleon At least with this show, it feels like both MC's, don't really show any emotion. You have to rely on the people around them to tell you that they have been changing. There are subtle notices, but that's really it. The diary gives you a better understanding of Saki since the show follows mostly the Yuuti. But I already knew she liked him and that she was jealous. Was there something else to learn from the diary intro? |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
SenpaiTM said: It was hard to watch the first part, because of the artstyle. fascinating how different that experience can be - I loved the artistic direction and cinematography of the first half and think it works really well for diary entries, like I kept thinking "yeah this is art alright" |
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| These feelings --- I was right on money with 'Jealousy'. She's indeed feeling these feelings because of everything happening around her. It was interesting to see her monologue of how she feels. I feel her at times. From tantrum throwing little girl to the Saki we know right now is a big leap she took being so young at the time. I feel like her mom misses that version of Saki. I'm interested in seeing what's gonna happen moving forward since now we know that she's feeling jealous. The Summer Break is almost over and they proposed going to the Pool but none of them want to express that they want to go. Now, I'm expecting Maaya to make a move and drag them along with her. |
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| So they have more time or more money for the show that they could draw eyes of even other random people? Before they would not even draw the eyes of main characters if they were further away.. |
| (づ￣ ³￣)づ ちゅっ ちゅっ キス (´｡✪ω✪｡｀) I hate it when anime/manga that I enjoyed ends, especially when there could be much longer plot and when I love main heroine :P I wish I had magic glasses that let me see real world in anime colors ;) |
Moppit said: @ejleon I knew also. I just want to see more of this type of show. Where in romance that's not s harem you get both perspectives instead of the one. My Stepmom Daughter is my Ex. They switch between both characters, giving their views instead of just one. The reason why I don't think diary as a recap when you're seeing it is someone else's view. “Stepmom’s Daughter” I haven’t finished that one. Exploring the inner thoughts and feelings of both characters, yes, I agree that is a unique perspective that most anime do not show. I’ll try to keep your comments in mind going forward. |
| Note: I don’t lazily watch 3-5 episodes, biasedly compare to other anime, or unfairly judge by surface level similarities. With every anime I start, I watch the entire series, both Japanese Sub & English Dub, then judge each anime based on what they present, to give an honest and fair rating. |
| Ayase is so drab. All she has going for her is looks. Senpai all the way. She has respectable looks and 10x better personality. MC has a bad personality too. I only want more screen time for senpai. Ten said: Very dull. Somehow I barely know what this show is even about anymore. Yep. I only enjoy it when senpai or Maaya appear. |
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| Honestly, I don't understand why people hate the two main characters' personalities so much Just because they don't show their emotions doesn't mean that they don't feel them There's a lot of situations in this show where despite their calm appearance, they feel strong emotions A recent example is with Ayase's jealousy, she doesn't show it visually, but her actions clearly speak for themselves (it does become obvious with the diary, but that's the whole purpose of a diary) I prefer those kind of characters instead of the usual tropes, especially nowadays when most of the character tropes are butchered compared to before (RIP tsunderes) As for the diary scenes, I think they're good A most romances only use one POV except in one or two scenes, but... A couple is not only one person, it's two Kaguya-sama also had a lot of scenes in the POV of Kaguya, and her monologues probably take even more time than Ayase's diary overall, but was it bad? No, it wasn't So what's the problem then? Well, I don't have any problem with it, but if I had to guess, I would say that it partly comes from people's tendency to optimise time They don't want slower paced stories because it's a waste of time They don't want silence in scenes because it's a waste of time They don't want a new POV in already shown scenes because it's a waste of time They don't want a 11 minutes long monologue to explain the main romance's feelings because it's a waste of time However, those kind of feedback only makes "ok" romances, not great ones While yes, romances where couples are formed very early on do exists But in those romances, the "aim" is very different (They usually focus more on the comfy slice of life romance where nothing much happens except they live as a couple) |
| We are already on the 7th episode. Honestly, I really wanted to "like" this show because I like romance genre, but hell it's so damn boring. I don't know if it's the studio's fault or the plot is just meh. I feel bad for the people who are trying their very best to defend this show. |
Reply to reicchi-sensei
We are already on the 7th episode. Honestly, I really wanted to "like" this show because I like romance genre, but hell it's so damn boring.
I don't know if it's the studio's fault or the plot is just meh. I feel bad for the people who are trying their very best to defend this show.
I don't know if it's the studio's fault or the plot is just meh. I feel bad for the people who are trying their very best to defend this show.
| Well, I can agree that the plot is "meh", I mean, it's the usual romance plot But to be fair, there isn't a lot to do in terms of plot with a school life romance Unless you want to go with the easy drama of bullying and stuff The slow pacing is fine, it's both intended and original, most school life romance only rush towards important events like beach episode, cultural festival, or christmas and don't do much inbetween, this one focus more on the day-to-day, that's why they always show the date |
| idk... i usally love slice of life but this is another boring episode... |
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| not to exaggerate but this, so far, has been a masterclass in (slow-burn) storytelling. but I would totally donate for even the slightest increase in animation quality. art is fine tho, great even. saki's flashback and monologue helped flesh this out more. can't wait for the next ep!  |
Reply to RafaBryan
One word to describe Saki's feelings right now is Jealousy.
After some more recaps from Saki's diary, Saki starts working at the bookstore with Yuuta. Saki's feeling that she finds disgusting is jealousy. So on what basis could Saki be jealous?
Maybe a more definitive answer will come next, so we'll wait for that.
After some more recaps from Saki's diary, Saki starts working at the bookstore with Yuuta. Saki's feeling that she finds disgusting is jealousy. So on what basis could Saki be jealous?
Maybe a more definitive answer will come next, so we'll wait for that.
| @RafaBryan wow thus episode FUCKIN SUCKED |
| More of Saki's diary from her POV, and how she's being slowly infected by Yuta's kindness and his daily life, but it becomes obvious by the day that jealousy is slowly ingrained towards her that she wants to desire him a lot more, even going as far as to work together with him at his workplace because Yomiuri is the kind of girl where she's interested in him, but it's vaguely shown for a reason. It took the 1st half of the episode, but it's clear of the intention that we can't always see from just one angle, and Saki's views are defintely one filled with anxiety of thinking whether did she serve him well, to the point that she imagined herself to be a heroine of love, but that she could not find the courage to do so since love can be stupid, which eventually she will have to release her pent-up feelings sooner or later. As stepsiblings, it'd be weird for Yuta and Saki to be on a first-name basis, as Summer vacation sets in and work goes like the norm. Even their relations are just as they come, though things outside of Yuta's spectrum is easily forgotten on the wayside, like Maru telling him that Narasaka had invited him and Saki to the pool, which he would feel uncomfortable being with a group of cheery people and Saki not forcing him to go. Jealousy's cooking for Saki, though how will she take this in? |
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| Nah, please don't kill the vibe by working there!!! Now we won't get to see cute moments between Yuta and his senpai. I don't know what happened to getting a job that pays well. Oh so Saki used to have black hair? Does she dye it now? Saki is so damn dry, how does she expect Yuta to develop feelings for her? At least his senpai has conversations with him. Wooah Saki learned a new word today, jealously. The walks home are literal torture. I can't imagine being in their position, especially Yuta's. The conversations are so forced. How do people find this interesting? It's lacking so much. Just two boring people walking home and having stupid pointless conversations. For a second, I thought this show was interesting, but I quickly learned that its quite the opposite. |
As a wise man once said, "No one hates anime more than anime fans"  |
| Jealousy. Saki begins to become aware of her feelings, but she doesn't really understand what she's experiencing. |
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| One of the better episodes. The gimmick of covering the same week twice worked for me, as I get to hear Saki's actual thoughts and some new details for the events I already saw. For some reason I was really pleased to see Yuuta actually bump into the table in this episode after only hearing it in the last episode. The introduction of her new job and the pool invitation issue were also interesting, relatively speaking. However, the events and the inner thoughts continue to be delivered at an infuriatingly slow pace. I respect the show for sticking to the tone it established, but there's simply not enough meat to the story and the writing to justify this tone and tempo. Like, the silence isn't really charged or filled with meaning, it's just... silence. Maybe with a little bit of subtext. |
| Ayase got jealous |
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| God I love the Saki diary scenes they're hella beautiful while also adding the necessary context when we the viewer mostly see things from Yuuta's POV |
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