Fullmetal Alchemist
| FMAB was in first place for 10 years and has an ultra-toxic fandom, the very fact of first place put FMAB in the role of an "authority", people like to oppose authorities, a lot of people like to go against the grain and show otherness, the toxic fandom should add fuel to the fire, and yet, hatred for this anime is practically non-existent, I wonder if it's just my bubble or if this anime is really "hate-proof" xD |
Ba-Cii10Aug 13, 2024 4:18 PM
| Brotherhood upholding its rank for so long actually gave it more hate than it let on. There's a handful of people who won't give it a second thought to honestly tell you how they feel about it. It further gained increase hate during the Attack on Titan botting days where, for every AoT that was reset, Brotherhood lost more and more of its score. It stood at 9.21, its highest score, for a long time. But gradually began falling down the more another show took the spot through bots. Frieren is a notable example of, arguably, the first anime to naturally rise to the #1 spot since Brotherhood itself. I personally can't say much on it yet, but it must've done something impressive to pull the rug under it with only a quarter of the runtime. One of the first times a rollback wasn't needed in forever. But there's people that for sure hate it. Any series that's liked has those who dislike it. Similarly, if tons of people love something, you can expect a good amount to hate it. |
| from the perspective of someone who's only been watching anime for not even 3 years, fmab's community is toxic when someone says theres a better anime, and the pperson saying that another anime is better than fmab isnt always necessarily hating on fmab. please don't hate me for my probably incorrect conclusion. |
Reply to Salvaged
never met a single soul who hated fma, nor met anyone who even disliked it...
also, never met a single toxic fan base, so I honestly think it's just your perception. leave it be, it's because fma is an emotionally gripping tale weaved from a fabric that has something to offer for even the most die hard anime fan is my guess
also, never met a single toxic fan base, so I honestly think it's just your perception. leave it be, it's because fma is an emotionally gripping tale weaved from a fabric that has something to offer for even the most die hard anime fan is my guess
| @Salvaged toxic fans are a fact, anyone will tell you that, they take the first place on this site too seriously and a lot of shit always comes out of it xD although it seems that since MAL prevents review bombing, they have calmed down, but it was really bad before. |
| fmab W People who bot shows because they care too much about the ranking of the show on the website where you track your completed anime L |
Ba-Cii10 said: @Salvaged toxic fans are a fact, anyone will tell you that, they take the first place on this site too seriously and a lot of shit always comes out of it xD although it seems that since MAL prevents review bombing, they have calmed down, but it was really bad before. Nowadays, I have more of a problem with people who say they like a top rated anime and when I ask why, there's never an explanation of any kind. But they definitely have a "looking down on you" vibe when you're saying why you don't like it and actually going over reasons, hahahah. But in my case, it's genuine curiosity. Not because I want to use the information against them. |
| Ignore MAL ratings, they are not important. Most of my favourites have less than 8 MAL rating. XD Based on my experience, MAL users are rather young, so they have a strong bias towards battle-shounens, hopes that answers your question. |
| What "Ultra-Toxic Fandom"? |
| Most MAL user don't care about the ranking dick contest this site has. FMAB is still up there because it has been seen by thousands of people, that mostly seen it very positively. The "Toxic fandom" is but a small part of the FMAB fans. Honestly I only see people talking about the "toxic fma fandom" when I come to Mal, and most of the time it's a pissing contest between two fandoms (often FMA and Gintama) to say their show is better. If you care about that ranking pissing contest, they're "toxic fans" if you don't, you don't even see those guys. The show is good anyway, being first or 7th doesn't really change anything. When you look at the other member of the top 5, SnK was such a success it broke mainstream, becoming a phenemenum outside of the anime community. Like FMA did in its time. SteinGate is known for its excellent story. It's not a surprise any of those is there. There good show with good writing, and a huge fanbase. Frieren is recent, so here is the hype. I'm more surprised Gintama is even there. Gintama is a niche show, and I always was under the impression that most people don't really care about it. It's to manga an anime what Warhammer 40k has been to science fiction over the past 30 years, something hyped by the fans, yet mostly ignored by 95% of people that might be part of the target audience. |
Turtles_HunterAug 13, 2024 5:51 PM
Todday said: @1crusty that is not being toxic, that’s just two people discussing anime with different opinions. @Salvaged I agree with this comment. @Notshane agree with this comment too. You say FMAB fandom is toxic is a fact but it’s not, it’s your opinion. You are obviously in the fandom, are you saying you are toxic? Also look how many 1 votes there are, there is no way that is natural fmab fans or what people are 99% sure to be fmab fans spam rated frieren 1 star when it overpassed fmab. not sure how thats not toxic, even if it wasnt fmab fans. |
| The fan base isn’t that bad, the die hard fans review bombed other things to keep FMAB at #1 (which is stupid bc it’s just a number on a website), but the fans I’ve interacted with were fine. Of course the toxic side will stand out the most though… he who shouts loudest and all that. I think it’s hard to hate it, too. It’s really a great series and I doubt many people lower their score just because of some toxic fans. |
| Gachiakuta is the greatest manga of all time |
1crusty said: Todday said: @1crusty that is not being toxic, that’s just two people discussing anime with different opinions. @Salvaged I agree with this comment. @Notshane agree with this comment too. You say FMAB fandom is toxic is a fact but it’s not, it’s your opinion. You are obviously in the fandom, are you saying you are toxic? Also look how many 1 votes there are, there is no way that is natural fmab fans or what people are 99% sure to be fmab fans spam rated frieren 1 star when it overpassed fmab. not sure how thats not toxic, even if it wasnt fmab fans. It’s just the review bombers who stand out. Most fans of the series are fine and just enjoy the show. Most of us don’t review bomb and shit on other anime to keep FMAB at the top. |
| Gachiakuta is the greatest manga of all time |
| It's funny because I constantly hear complaints about the FMAB fanbase, yet at least here on MAL that fanbase seems pretty chill and I can't remember ever seeing them stir shit; it's usually other fanbases who make threads whining about FMAB being the #1 anime for years despite the fact that rankings really shouldn't matter anyway. |
| FMAB is a complete anime which has everything in it. It includes everything. Good plot, action, story telling and little touches of romance. Op and Ed songs were also one of the best. so I think it deserves to be at No. 1 spot |
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| If using a website's rating system is what makes you "ultra toxic" I wonder what the fandoms that doxx people and send death threats are classified as. |
| MEA·MENTVLA·INGENS·EST |
| Guys this is just a ranking on a site of shut ins. |
| ... listen, I've seen very toxic fandoms, this ain't it. It's just a score on mal. People are pretty chill. |
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| How do YOU still do it?^^ Still getting agitated by random FMAB Fans and their opinions, thinking it's all one giant, united Front of people beeing toxic, rebelling against the community xD You're right. It's been 10 years. Time to grow up^^ |
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| Frieren is the recent most overhyped anime that people liked for some reason, but the fact that it got to number 1 was ridiculous. I mean it’s not even a completed series yet people claim it’s a masterpiece. In fact, it has one of the worst elitist fanbase I’ve ever seen in recent memory. Anyway, the only anime from beginning to end that’s a masterpiece imo is FMAB. FMAB isn’t my favourite anime ever, but it’s one of if not the best anime I’ve ever seen. But yea, for some reason FMAB fans get hated on like most Shounen anime fans. |
KarateJones said: The fandom is soooo bad and ridiculously toxic I once explained on a post why i thought the fight scenes were lackluster (not bad but just not enough for me), and this guy went on for literally days about how I’m wrong. He even went down my watchlist one by one saying each show that I’ve ever watched is garbage and that anime in general has been awful for the last 20 years outside of fmab Hands down the worst fanbase that honestly taints the show imo That’s tame compared to how disrespectful Frieren fans have been in my experience. Well, them and yuritards (the crazy yuri addicts, not the normal ones) |
Reply to Animillion
Frieren is the recent most overhyped anime that people liked for some reason, but the fact that it got to number 1 was ridiculous. I mean it’s not even a completed series yet people claim it’s a masterpiece. In fact, it has one of the worst elitist fanbase I’ve ever seen in recent memory.
Anyway, the only anime from beginning to end that’s a masterpiece imo is FMAB. FMAB isn’t my favourite anime ever, but it’s one of if not the best anime I’ve ever seen. But yea, for some reason FMAB fans get hated on like most Shounen anime fans.
Anyway, the only anime from beginning to end that’s a masterpiece imo is FMAB. FMAB isn’t my favourite anime ever, but it’s one of if not the best anime I’ve ever seen. But yea, for some reason FMAB fans get hated on like most Shounen anime fans.
| @Animillion God, I don't understand why you're writing so much about Frieren, since it has nothing to do with this thread xD you have some problems with yourself, every now and then I see you crying because you hate this one anime, just move on, and when you really can't help yourself, pour out your complaints under the appropriate posts, because it looks really pathetic. |
Reply to Ba-Cii10
@Animillion God, I don't understand why you're writing so much about Frieren, since it has nothing to do with this thread xD you have some problems with yourself, every now and then I see you crying because you hate this one anime, just move on, and when you really can't help yourself, pour out your complaints under the appropriate posts, because it looks really pathetic.
| @Ba-Cii10 Funny you say this when you created a whole thread to whine about FMAB fans. If you don’t care what I have to say then just move on and pay no mind. I may not like the overrated series but don’t hate it in particular, I just hate the fanbase after how terrible I’ve seen them be and won’t deny I’ve been somewhat vocal about that. Anyway, what I should say is your thread is misdirected towards the wrong fanbase. Go bother someone else, preferably the fanbase of an anime you like. And before you decide to lump me in with the so-called toxic FMAB fans which I’ve never encountered, no I don’t do shit like rate 0s to anime I don’t like. Rather, I just give my opinions in comments and not make entire threads like this. |
AnimillionAug 14, 2024 5:11 PM
Reply to Animillion
@Ba-Cii10 Funny you say this when you created a whole thread to whine about FMAB fans. If you don’t care what I have to say then just move on and pay no mind. I may not like the overrated series but don’t hate it in particular, I just hate the fanbase after how terrible I’ve seen them be and won’t deny I’ve been somewhat vocal about that. Anyway, what I should say is your thread is misdirected towards the wrong fanbase. Go bother someone else, preferably the fanbase of an anime you like.
And before you decide to lump me in with the so-called toxic FMAB fans which I’ve never encountered, no I don’t do shit like rate 0s to anime I don’t like. Rather, I just give my opinions in comments and not make entire threads like this.
And before you decide to lump me in with the so-called toxic FMAB fans which I’ve never encountered, no I don’t do shit like rate 0s to anime I don’t like. Rather, I just give my opinions in comments and not make entire threads like this.
| @Animillion where do you see complaining here? you completely misunderstood what the post is about and you're venting your frustration in the wrong place xD My thread is directed to the right fanbase, even if it was a thread aimed at simply criticizing the FMAB fandom, your experiences don't matter because attention attention.. everyone has different ones and this is not a thread asking about them, it's just funny how outraged you are "But how dare someone talk about the toxicity of some other fandom? After all, the Frieren fandom is the most toxic fandom under the sun, yOuR tHReAd Is dIREctEd tO tHe wrONg fAnbaSE" xD |
Reply to Ba-Cii10
@Animillion where do you see complaining here? you completely misunderstood what the post is about and you're venting your frustration in the wrong place xD
My thread is directed to the right fanbase, even if it was a thread aimed at simply criticizing the FMAB fandom, your experiences don't matter because attention attention.. everyone has different ones and this is not a thread asking about them, it's just funny how outraged you are "But how dare someone talk about the toxicity of some other fandom? After all, the Frieren fandom is the most toxic fandom under the sun, yOuR tHReAd Is dIREctEd tO tHe wrONg fAnbaSE" xD
My thread is directed to the right fanbase, even if it was a thread aimed at simply criticizing the FMAB fandom, your experiences don't matter because attention attention.. everyone has different ones and this is not a thread asking about them, it's just funny how outraged you are "But how dare someone talk about the toxicity of some other fandom? After all, the Frieren fandom is the most toxic fandom under the sun, yOuR tHReAd Is dIREctEd tO tHe wrONg fAnbaSE" xD
| @Ba-Cii10 “FMAB was in first place for 10 years and has an ultra-toxic fandom.” I mean that’s complaining in a nutshell, not really criticism, but ok. I don’t want argue with you man, just ignore what I said if it pisses you off. Try not to create full threads complaining about other fandoms though, it just clogs up discussion forums unnecessarily. Like when you clickbaited with “How Does FMAB do it”, I expected a fruitful thread praising the series or even criticizing the series in some manner. |
Reply to Animillion
@Ba-Cii10 “FMAB was in first place for 10 years and has an ultra-toxic fandom.” I mean that’s complaining in a nutshell, not really criticism, but ok. I don’t want argue with you man, just ignore what I said if it pisses you off. Try not to create full threads complaining about other fandoms though, it just clogs up discussion forums unnecessarily. Like when you clickbaited with “How Does FMAB do it”, I expected a fruitful thread praising the series or even criticizing the series in some manner.
| @Animillion This is not a post about complaining, the fact that FMAB fans are toxic is a common opinion on the internet, everyone remembers the war with Aot and Kaguya, even if you don't agree with it because you have different experiences, it's a fact. That's why my post is a question (not complaining about the fandom), how does FMAB, with a fandom that has such a bad reputation and was number one for many years, avoid hate, I also ask if it's just my bubble, nothing more, nothing less, the fact that you react in such an overly sensitive way to even the slightest mention of the "toxicity of the FMBA fandom" means that you've probably heard it many times and confirms what I wrote at the beginning. Maybe I should have specified it better at the beginning, but now you know how it is and you can rest assured xD |
Reply to Ba-Cii10
@Animillion This is not a post about complaining, the fact that FMAB fans are toxic is a common opinion on the internet, everyone remembers the war with Aot and Kaguya, even if you don't agree with it because you have different experiences, it's a fact. That's why my post is a question (not complaining about the fandom), how does FMAB, with a fandom that has such a bad reputation and was number one for many years, avoid hate, I also ask if it's just my bubble, nothing more, nothing less, the fact that you react in such an overly sensitive way to even the slightest mention of the "toxicity of the FMBA fandom" means that you've probably heard it many times and confirms what I wrote at the beginning. Maybe I should have specified it better at the beginning, but now you know how it is and you can rest assured xD
| @Ba-Cii10 Yea, it came off as complaining so I guess it’s good know what you meant now… |
| am I weird for thinking that fmab *haters* are the toxic ones? like maybe the Fandom only seems bad because there are those that would purposefully tank it's rating to make it fall from 1st... so people who intentionally rage bait by calling the show ass get fans who defend it, making them seem like a die hard overly defensive fan base. fmab is genuinely a top show. I'm not one to cry if it falls in rank, but 64 eps of consistent good writing is not a common phenomenon in anime. I think some mal users just like to cry that their fave isekai anime isn't ranked #1 and get salty that fmab is sitting high after years, and call them toxic and make up shit about botting for high ratings. |
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