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Dec 18, 2023 11:43 AM
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Back then distributors and tv stations did not know any better and marketed anime meant for teens and up with complex topics and characters to kids instead. This lead to traumatic experiences for many young viewers, myself included. Add also that age ratings were non-existent.

Some titles that pop in my mind:

Robotech
Captain Harlock TV and movie
Area 88
Andromeda Stories
Future War 198X
Locke the Superman
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Dec 18, 2023 11:53 AM
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Looking at the sub version of Yugioh, i am genuinely surprised they were able to make it as kid friendly as they did. A series with death, erotic outfits and bondage themes (Looking at you, Harpie Lady!), and torture games straight out of a Saw Movie. It was a real shock to me.
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Dec 18, 2023 12:02 PM
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Apparently Fist of the North Star had a French dub that was aimed at kids, until the executives cancelled it when the actually watched the show.
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petran79 said:
Back then distributors and tv stations did not know any better and marketed anime meant for teens and up with complex topics and characters to kids instead. This lead to traumatic experiences for many young viewers, myself included. Add also that age ratings were non-existent.

Some titles that pop in my mind:

Robotech
Captain Harlock TV and movie
Area 88
Andromeda Stories
Future War 198X
Locke the Superman


If you look back to the 80s you were dealing with Rambo action figures that were marketed towards kids for a movie franchise that was obviously made for an adult audience. The same thing with Robocop. The difference here is they actually made Western cartoons for kids for those franchises too.

"Robotech" toy action figures were actually being sold in places like "Childrens Palace" toy store in the West before the actual Anime even aired in the USA during the 80s. Likely Matchbox didn't think about how violent and adult oriented the animation would be when it eventually aired in the USA. Some actual toy stores actually stopped selling "Robotech" action figures strictly because they weren't selling them at all. There wasn't a huge marketing campaign for them like all the other Western action figures and toys did during afternoon cartoons.

The 80s was just a messy time when it came to marketing animation that was not meant for kids. Since it was widely thought of in the west at the time that all action animation for TV was strictly produced for a kid audience that still plays with toys.
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Re-Birthday it's very sad, features heavy bullying and even a suicide attempt! Definitely NOT suited for kids, I doubt they could even understand it properly.
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Revolutionary Girl Utena is something I wouldn't let a child watch, yet it was aired in Mexico as such... until episode 30 onwards which weren't aired because the series became definitely not family friendly (more than it already was).

Evangelion was a similar but better known case as it aired in its entirety in most of Latin America, and even here it was broadcasted in a timeslot close to anime like Pokémon.

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Dec 18, 2023 10:01 PM
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Maybe Ima, Soko ni Iru Boku? I don't know.
Dec 18, 2023 11:13 PM
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Revolutionary Girl Utena is something I wouldn't let a child watch, yet it was aired in Mexico as such... until episode 30 onwards which weren't aired because the series became definitely not family friendly (more than it already was).

Evangelion was a similar but better known case as it aired in its entirety in most of Latin America, and even here it was broadcasted in a timeslot close to anime like Pokémon.
@eblf2013 Reminds me that I'm Greece too our national broadcaster from what I read broadcasted Dear Brother, before ending it abruptly in the half of the third episode
Dec 18, 2023 11:18 PM
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Anju to Zushioumaru, in large part cause it adapts a pretty violent and dark 1910s story and tackles serious themes. No amount of cuddly animal sidekicks can change that.

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Yu-Gi-Oh was like every other PG13 battle shonen but in West it was marketed for 5 year olds. Hence, being censored to hell and dumbed down.
Same happened with One Piece.
Dec 19, 2023 1:12 AM

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Pretty much every PG-13 shounen with enough blood and/or boobs.
Dec 19, 2023 1:17 AM
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Another one, I have heard Legend of the Overfiend was aired in broad day TV, and the DVDs were sold in the children section.
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Gingan Nagareboshi Gin was released on VHS in Scandinavia aimed at kids. It was censored and they did edited the episodes into 4 movies even skiping some of the episodes. But they still did include some graphic and dark scenes that were not that very family friendly.
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Really cant think of anything as it was distributed. I likely saw some anime before as a kid that was targeted to more an older audience but it never bothered me.
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Dec 19, 2023 4:40 AM
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i say evangelion and sailor moon just for the ecchi themes

heck even dragonball with bulma has some ecchi scenes
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i say evangelion and sailor moon just for the ecchi themes

heck even dragonball with bulma has some ecchi scenes
@deg not fair comparing Sailor Moon and even Evangelion to Dragon Ball in ecchi themes, but specially Sailor Moon.
Dec 19, 2023 5:04 AM
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If i am right most shounens have some form of ecchi in it. Even today.
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Yu-Gi-Oh was like every other PG13 battle shonen but in West it was marketed for 5 year olds. Hence, being censored to hell and dumbed down.
Same happened with One Piece.
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Even in Japan, the Yu-Gi-Oh anime was dumbed down compared to the manga. It was not marketed as a PG13 battle shounen.
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Apparently Fist of the North Star had a French dub that was aimed at kids, until the executives cancelled it when the actually watched the show.
@CheesyJen

84 episodes were aired in France before the show was cancelled.

Another infamous example is Kinnikuman, cancelled after 49 episodes for having a swastika-wearing character portrayed as a good guy.
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Even in Japan, the Yu-Gi-Oh anime was dumbed down compared to the manga. It was not marketed as a PG13 battle shounen.
@Lucifrost Not really the case, no. Also it literally says PG-13 battle shonen on the MAL entries.
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petran79 said:
Back then distributors and tv stations did not know any better and marketed anime meant for teens and up with complex topics and characters to kids instead. This lead to traumatic experiences for many young viewers, myself included. Add also that age ratings were non-existent

Ooooo tons, don't remember all the titles , but to name a few
  • Ranma 1/2
  • Cat's Eye
  • City Hunter
  • Dragon Ball
  • One Piece
Tough i was never traumatized by them, exept for this one scene in Versailles no Bara...
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Back then distributors and tv stations did not know any better and marketed anime meant for teens and up with complex topics and characters to kids instead. This lead to traumatic experiences for many young viewers, myself included. Add also that age ratings were non-existent

Ooooo tons, don't remember all the titles , but to name a few
  • Ranma 1/2
  • Cat's Eye
  • City Hunter
  • Dragon Ball
  • One Piece
Tough i was never traumatized by them, exept for this one scene in Versailles no Bara...
@DigiCat it also depended on where you lived. German TV for example was very careful what anime to pick and license. One reason violent mecha, action and sci-fi there were not so prominent in the 80s.
But South European countries were a totally different landscape.

Eg that movie was way too violent
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I feel like the 1990s version of Sailor Moon was dumbed down a bit from the manga to make it more kid-friendly. That’s why I prefer Sailor Moon Crystal.
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saint seiya, yu yu hakusho and bleach (the latter in the case of Brazil because it spends 9 am on a children's program)
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@DigiCat it also depended on where you lived. German TV for example was very careful what anime to pick and license. One reason violent mecha, action and sci-fi there were not so prominent in the 80s.
But South European countries were a totally different landscape.

Eg that movie was way too violent
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One reason violent mecha, action and sci-fi there were not so prominent in the 80s.

Sooooo much violent mecha, action, sci-fi aired in italy, and i loved them all... when i was 3 🤩
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@Lucifrost Not really the case, no. Also it literally says PG-13 battle shonen on the MAL entries.
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Not really the case, no. Also it literally says PG-13 battle shonen on the MAL entries.

I see no mention of battle shounen on the MAL page.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/481/Yu☆Gi☆Oh_Duel_Monsters
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I feel like the 1990s version of Sailor Moon was dumbed down a bit from the manga to make it more kid-friendly. That’s why I prefer Sailor Moon Crystal.
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That used to be extremely common. They did it with Devilman too, as if something with Devil in the name could be suitable for young children.

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bruh how are some people getting bells on their forum picture and i know it is not a part of their forum picture but added on top. howwwww

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Dragon Ball for sure hehe. ⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)



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Its kind of wild that Gundam, especially Kill em All Tomino's UC timeline was aimed at kids. So many people in UC specifically died in horrible ways too like getting crushed, falling out an aircraft, and much much worse. Dude was a menace lol.

It's not that old but I want to know who it was that had the bright idea to market Goblin Slayer to kids for halloween when it first came out on western streaming.
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@Geeljire oooh that makes sense. i had no idea that was a mal supporter feature. thanks!

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Tiger Mask '69 had some characters really dirty in combat but I don't remember being traumatized. I remember upsetting scenes of characters being strangled or going for the eyes. There was always something going on with rigged matches with Naoto ending up being beaten up/tortured. Dunno if kids did emulate that as they do with wrestling.
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Its kind of wild that Gundam, especially Kill em All Tomino's UC timeline was aimed at kids. So many people in UC specifically died in horrible ways too like getting crushed, falling out an aircraft, and much much worse. Dude was a menace lol.

It's not that old but I want to know who it was that had the bright idea to market Goblin Slayer to kids for halloween when it first came out on western streaming.
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Its kind of wild that Gundam, especially Kill em All Tomino's UC timeline was aimed at kids. So many people in UC specifically died in horrible ways too like getting crushed, falling out an aircraft, and much much worse. Dude was a menace lol.

The 1st anime got bad TV ratings too, because it turns out that stuff doesn't entertain kids as much Mazinger and Raideen. Tomino and Sunrise clearly did not share a vision. 🤦‍♂️
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Not really the case, no. Also it literally says PG-13 battle shonen on the MAL entries.

I see no mention of battle shounen on the MAL page.
https://myanimelist.net/anime/481/Yu☆Gi☆Oh_Duel_Monsters
@Lucifrost That is because Yu-Gi-Oh is soft seinen, but that is besides the point.
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petran79 said:
Back then distributors and tv stations did not know any better and marketed anime meant for teens and up with complex topics and characters to kids instead. This lead to traumatic experiences for many young viewers, myself included. Add also that age ratings were non-existent.

Some titles that pop in my mind:

Robotech
Captain Harlock TV and movie
Area 88
Andromeda Stories
Future War 198X
Locke the Superman


If you look back to the 80s you were dealing with Rambo action figures that were marketed towards kids for a movie franchise that was obviously made for an adult audience. The same thing with Robocop. The difference here is they actually made Western cartoons for kids for those franchises too.

"Robotech" toy action figures were actually being sold in places like "Childrens Palace" toy store in the West before the actual Anime even aired in the USA during the 80s. Likely Matchbox didn't think about how violent and adult oriented the animation would be when it eventually aired in the USA. Some actual toy stores actually stopped selling "Robotech" action figures strictly because they weren't selling them at all. There wasn't a huge marketing campaign for them like all the other Western action figures and toys did during afternoon cartoons.

The 80s was just a messy time when it came to marketing animation that was not meant for kids. Since it was widely thought of in the west at the time that all action animation for TV was strictly produced for a kid audience that still plays with toys.
@ColourWheel sad thing was that Robocop cartoon, despite the lack of violence was closer to the humour and spirit of the original than all the movie sequels and remakes
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Maybe Spirited Away. It might just have been me, but I remember it freaking me out as a kid.

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Maybe Spirited Away. It might just have been me, but I remember it freaking me out as a kid.
@DreamWindow I loved Spirited away, was more freaked out by Monster's Inc.
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Maybe dragon ball z?

I dunno in Germany they aired dragon ball z to kids when it's clearly a much more mature anime.

Nowadays it's rated 12 by the fsk
(Fsk is basically the German MPAA or television ratings)it's not hard to see why.

Germany is also the exact same country where the Dragonball manga is uncensored with all the erotic stuff kept in and it's still allowed for youngsters to read it.


If I have said anything please feel free to correct me.
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@eblf2013 Reminds me that I'm Greece too our national broadcaster from what I read broadcasted Dear Brother, before ending it abruptly in the half of the third episode
@petran79 huh as a greek that's intresting.
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Maybe dragon ball z?

I dunno in Germany they aired dragon ball z to kids when it's clearly a much more mature anime.

Nowadays it's rated 12 by the fsk
(Fsk is basically the German MPAA or television ratings)it's not hard to see why.

Germany is also the exact same country where the Dragonball manga is uncensored with all the erotic stuff kept in and it's still allowed for youngsters to read it.


If I have said anything please feel free to correct me.
@Grekyy if I said anything wrong I mean
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i say evangelion and sailor moon just for the ecchi themes

heck even dragonball with bulma has some ecchi scenes
@deg Sailor Moon is actually aimed at small children. I've seen an advertisement break which aired in the middle of one of the episodes on Japanese TV.
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Tap_Dancin_Kaiju said:
Its kind of wild that Gundam, especially Kill em All Tomino's UC timeline was aimed at kids. So many people in UC specifically died in horrible ways too like getting crushed, falling out an aircraft, and much much worse. Dude was a menace lol.

The 1st anime got bad TV ratings too, because it turns out that stuff doesn't entertain kids as much Mazinger and Raideen. Tomino and Sunrise clearly did not share a vision. 🤦‍♂️
@Lucifrost That kinda makes sense tha there's a disconnect somewhere between the two of them.

The tech the Earth has in Gundamwere clearly designed to be toys vs everything Zeon has that has the look of something a military would build(function over aesthetics). Plus I do know he really despised some of the gimmicks the Gundam had like the flail and weird replace legs with the back end of a jet form
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Chōjin Densetsu Urotsukidōji was accidentally shown on Brazilian TV and many children probably saw it. It wasn't sold as children's as far as I know, but that's a complicated situation.

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Ranma, of course. Happosai is disgusting.
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Pretty much everything mentioned on here is suitable for kids. One of the reasons why kids are so weak mentally today and grow up to be horribly unprepared for the real world is because people keep trying to shield them from things they don't need to be shielded from.
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Maybe dragon ball z?

I dunno in Germany they aired dragon ball z to kids when it's clearly a much more mature anime.

Nowadays it's rated 12 by the fsk
(Fsk is basically the German MPAA or television ratings)it's not hard to see why.

Germany is also the exact same country where the Dragonball manga is uncensored with all the erotic stuff kept in and it's still allowed for youngsters to read it.


If I have said anything please feel free to correct me.
@Grekyy

Seems on par with most other countries.

However it could be argued that in manga DBZ is a part of DB, not a separate entry. And any kid that can read could probably enjoy Dragon Ball.
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@Grekyy

Seems on par with most other countries.

However it could be argued that in manga DBZ is a part of DB, not a separate entry. And any kid that can read could probably enjoy Dragon Ball.
@IKKIsama when I saw how much erotic stuff was in the manga I was like how could they allow kids to read it?
Maybe it's because im only half German (in Germany sex or erotic content in media isn't that big of a concern unless it's porn or hentai)
Or I'm just sheltered.
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@IKKIsama when I saw how much erotic stuff was in the manga I was like how could they allow kids to read it?
Maybe it's because im only half German (in Germany sex or erotic content in media isn't that big of a concern unless it's porn or hentai)
Or I'm just sheltered.
@Grekyy however I do agree with your point
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i say evangelion and sailor moon just for the ecchi themes

heck even dragonball with bulma has some ecchi scenes
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NGE was rated 12 and up or 15 and up in most western countries. No age restriction in France though.
Dec 23, 2023 1:34 PM

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@IKKIsama when I saw how much erotic stuff was in the manga I was like how could they allow kids to read it?
Maybe it's because im only half German (in Germany sex or erotic content in media isn't that big of a concern unless it's porn or hentai)
Or I'm just sheltered.
@Grekyy

I think it can be difficult to judge any media that was made in the past with our point of view of today (plus in this case it was also originally made in Japan for a Japanese audience).
IKKIsamaDec 23, 2023 1:38 PM
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