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Jun 12, 2023 1:04 AM
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https://www.animesenpai.net/oshi-no-ko-ratings-continues-to-fall-despite-the-hype/

This part really bugs me 
'Japanese fans on various online forums even shared their thoughts, and their words weren’t primarily positive:
In Japan’s entertainment world, disappointment is the norm
revenge has come
I really don’t understand the taste of foreigners
Well, with Aqua Hoshino getting closer and closer to her mental age, the matter of reincarnation is losing all meaning
Well, YOASOBI’s opening theme song is still viral. But, is it for being YOASOBI or for being Oshi no Ko?
I’m just surprised'

So Japanese fans are speculating on they're own reason why Oshi no Ko is losing points because they don't know about the FMAB fake scount 1-star review trolls, and as someone who thinks FMAB is one of the greatest Anime of all time, to me this is a disaster.

JUNE 14th

Dear mod Phloup,

I'm sorry my post has been misunderstood by nearly everyone who replied, I wasn't talking at all about the overall rating of Oshi no Ko, that wasn't my probem at all. I specifically was only referring to the fact that Japanese might see the preponderance of 1-star reviews, I wasn't talking overall about whether Oshi no Ko should be rated higher or lower at all. So I came back and realised that people are completely misinterpreting my post and wanted to make a post to state that, then I realise the thread was locked. I really wished that could have been made clear rather than end up in a situation that you wouldn't want because mods misinterpreted my post because I was unclear.
Yours gratefully,
Elom Hycy agotokpeKushiator mumayazWillson 
Elom_HycyJun 14, 2023 7:07 AM
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Jun 12, 2023 1:13 AM
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Interesting point.
Jun 12, 2023 1:45 AM
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I don't think the Japanese fans are unaware of fake 1-star reviews at all. I also don't think that the drop in score is necessarily due to those fake reviews. 



So far I've only seen 4 episodes, but even so I can say that the show had a great opening episode (I'd give it an 8-8,5/10) which really helped it go gain massive attention and high scores. 

Episodes 2-4 are nowhere near that level, they seem a bit closer to a more generic high school show and I wonder if it would not have been better to make episode 1 a season on it's own and episodes 2-11 the second season. There is enough content in episode 1 to form an entire season around it after all so it could have been done. 

Also, in episodes 2-4 the Protagonist (Aqua) has turned into a nearly as creepy and obsessed "looser" as the stalker in episode 1 and he even ruins his sisters attempts to follow in her mothers footsteps and live her live the way she wants (which, while somewhat understandable given what happened to their mother still annoys me), worst of all he doesn't even realize it. 

That puts me personally a bit off because I dislike his character after that. Especially given that he's the mature one of the 2 children (he was an adult after all) and even worse he was a doctor, so if anyone should have been able to move on from the death of Ai, it should have been him but no he turns into an obsessed "looser". 
Jun 12, 2023 1:45 AM
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Here we go again with this crap. The score is declining because people are giving it 7 and 8 now, unlike fanboys who spammed 10 when 1st ep aired. Besides most of the 1's isn't even counted, if you look at the statistics the 1's percentage is actually declining while 7/8/9 is increasing. This will gradually dropout of top 25 in few months after its finished airing
Jun 12, 2023 1:57 AM
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Yveltal1612 said:
I don't think the Japanese fans are unaware of fake 1-star reviews at all. I also don't think that the drop in score is necessarily due to those fake reviews. 



So far I've only seen 4 episodes, but even so I can say that the show had a great opening episode (I'd give it an 8-8,5/10) which really helped it go gain massive attention and high scores. 

Episodes 2-4 are nowhere near that level, they seem a bit closer to a more generic high school show and I wonder if it would not have been better to make episode 1 a season on it's own and episodes 2-11 the second season. There is enough content in episode 1 to form an entire season around it after all so it could have been done. 

Also, in episodes 2-4 the Protagonist (Aqua) has turned into a nearly as creepy and obsessed "looser" as the stalker in episode 1 and he even ruins his sisters attempts to follow in her mothers footsteps and live her live the way she wants (which, while somewhat understandable given what happened to their mother still annoys me), worst of all he doesn't even realize it. 

That puts me personally a bit off because I dislike his character after that. Especially given that he's the mature one of the 2 children (he was an adult after all) and even worse he was a doctor, so if anyone should have been able to move on from the death of Ai, it should have been him but no he turns into an obsessed "looser". 

ep 6-8 has been great pick up tho?
Jun 12, 2023 2:00 AM
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Yveltal1612 said:
I don't think the Japanese fans are unaware of fake 1-star reviews at all. I also don't think that the drop in score is necessarily due to those fake reviews. 



So far I've only seen 4 episodes, but even so I can say that the show had a great opening episode (I'd give it an 8-8,5/10) which really helped it go gain massive attention and high scores. 

Episodes 2-4 are nowhere near that level, they seem a bit closer to a more generic high school show and I wonder if it would not have been better to make episode 1 a season on it's own and episodes 2-11 the second season. There is enough content in episode 1 to form an entire season around it after all so it could have been done. 

Also, in episodes 2-4 the Protagonist (Aqua) has turned into a nearly as creepy and obsessed "looser" as the stalker in episode 1 and he even ruins his sisters attempts to follow in her mothers footsteps and live her live the way she wants (which, while somewhat understandable given what happened to their mother still annoys me), worst of all he doesn't even realize it. 

That puts me personally a bit off because I dislike his character after that. Especially given that he's the mature one of the 2 children (he was an adult after all) and even worse he was a doctor, so if anyone should have been able to move on from the death of Ai, it should have been him but no he turns into an obsessed "looser". 

For me ep 6&7 > ep 1 [character limit]
Jun 12, 2023 2:44 AM
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Actually i really don't care.

Jun 12, 2023 2:54 AM
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Ilhan391 said:
Yveltal1612 said:
I don't think the Japanese fans are unaware of fake 1-star reviews at all. I also don't think that the drop in score is necessarily due to those fake reviews. 



So far I've only seen 4 episodes, but even so I can say that the show had a great opening episode (I'd give it an 8-8,5/10) which really helped it go gain massive attention and high scores. 

Episodes 2-4 are nowhere near that level, they seem a bit closer to a more generic high school show and I wonder if it would not have been better to make episode 1 a season on it's own and episodes 2-11 the second season. There is enough content in episode 1 to form an entire season around it after all so it could have been done. 

Also, in episodes 2-4 the Protagonist (Aqua) has turned into a nearly as creepy and obsessed "looser" as the stalker in episode 1 and he even ruins his sisters attempts to follow in her mothers footsteps and live her live the way she wants (which, while somewhat understandable given what happened to their mother still annoys me), worst of all he doesn't even realize it. 

That puts me personally a bit off because I dislike his character after that. Especially given that he's the mature one of the 2 children (he was an adult after all) and even worse he was a doctor, so if anyone should have been able to move on from the death of Ai, it should have been him but no he turns into an obsessed "looser". 

ep 6-8 has been great pick up tho?
Ilhan391 said:

For me ep 6&7 > ep 1 [character limit]

Well, I'm not there yet but I'll get there soon and hopefully you're right. :)
Jun 12, 2023 3:46 AM
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Japanese fans dont care about MAL rankings and neither should you
Jun 12, 2023 3:54 AM

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Maybe it would be better if they would never know about FMAB fanboys brigading competition periodically?
That would be an embarrassment.
Jun 12, 2023 4:28 AM
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MAXproARYAN said:
Japanese fans dont care about MAL rankings and neither should you

Very true, having such a huge pool of voters who all account for the same percentage of the score isn't really meaningful, especially since so many people here brigade shows
Jun 12, 2023 5:33 AM
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Sagenaker11 said:
Here we go again with this crap. The score is declining because people are giving it 7 and 8 now, unlike fanboys who spammed 10 when 1st ep aired. Besides most of the 1's isn't even counted, if you look at the statistics the 1's percentage is actually declining while 7/8/9 is increasing. This will gradually dropout of top 25 in few months after its finished airing

1 star reviews:

3rd/4th week of May - 3500+
Now - 5000+

That sure is increasing alright.also, statistically, outliers do affect data drastically. so a 7/8/9 wouldn't affect something as drastically as 1/2 would.

thiis is the reason many good animes have fallen out of top 10 over a period of time.also hate factor.....
Jun 12, 2023 5:59 AM
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Zrytst said:
Sagenaker11 said:
Here we go again with this crap. The score is declining because people are giving it 7 and 8 now, unlike fanboys who spammed 10 when 1st ep aired. Besides most of the 1's isn't even counted, if you look at the statistics the 1's percentage is actually declining while 7/8/9 is increasing. This will gradually dropout of top 25 in few months after its finished airing

1 star reviews:

3rd/4th week of May - 3500+
Now - 5000+

That sure is increasing alright.also, statistically, outliers do affect data drastically. so a 7/8/9 wouldn't affect something as drastically as 1/2 would.

thiis is the reason many good animes have fallen out of top 10 over a period of time.also hate factor.....
lmao what a dumb take lol. You need to compare it on percentage basis. I remember this thing having 3.5% 1's during mid may, now it's at 2.9%. On the other hand it had 60%+ 10's but its dropped to 55% while 7/8/9's has been gradually increasing
Jun 12, 2023 6:09 AM
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Elom_Hycy said:
https://www.animesenpai.net/oshi-no-ko-ratings-continues-to-fall-despite-the-hype/

This part really bugs me 
'Japanese fans on various online forums even shared their thoughts, and their words weren’t primarily positive:
In Japan’s entertainment world, disappointment is the norm
revenge has come
I really don’t understand the taste of foreigners
Well, with Aqua Hoshino getting closer and closer to her mental age, the matter of reincarnation is losing all meaning
Well, YOASOBI’s opening theme song is still viral. But, is it for being YOASOBI or for being Oshi no Ko?
I’m just surprised'

So Japanese fans are speculating on they're own reason why Oshi no Ko is losing points because they don't know about the FMAB fake scount 1-star review trolls, and as someone who thinks FMAB is one of the greatest Anime of all time, to me this is a disaster.

op quick thing, article is nearly a month old. just leave it...youll see this for every anime
Jun 12, 2023 6:12 AM
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Sagenaker11 said:
Zrytst said:

1 star reviews:

3rd/4th week of May - 3500+
Now - 5000+

That sure is increasing alright.also, statistically, outliers do affect data drastically. so a 7/8/9 wouldn't affect something as drastically as 1/2 would.

thiis is the reason many good animes have fallen out of top 10 over a period of time.also hate factor.....
lmao what a dumb take lol. You need to compare it on percentage basis. I remember this thing having 3.5% 1's during mid may, now it's at 2.9%. On the other hand it had 60%+ 10's but its dropped to 55% while 7/8/9's has been gradually increasing

that is the percentage of total votes. i don't disagree that the % of 7/8/9 is increasing, but..

take average of 10 10 1 and 10 10 7 and tell me which is bigger. then tell me average of 10 7 7. my math might be stupid, but this is what I mean by outliers
Jun 12, 2023 6:16 AM

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this is not their fault, it's the articles fault.

LISTEN

EVERY SINGLE HYPED SHOW ON MAL SLOLWLY LOOSES IT'S RATING, WITH VERY FEW SHOWS BEING THE EXCEPTION.

the only anime that I know have gone up with time are sonny boy and serial experiments lain.


the show still has an extremely high rating. when the article phrases it like "ThE RaTiNg iS gOiNG DoWn" like it's an abnormal thing, people who don't know how mal works, aka japanese fans get the wrong idea. the think the show must have gotten "bad" for the rating to go down. not knowing how normal it is.

it's not the fmab 1/10 spam. there was a bit of that at the start when episode 1 came out, but not anymore. the show has been slowly going down long after the review bombs, because again,

THAT'S HOW EVERY.SINGLE.HYPED.ANIME.GOES.

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