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Mar 4, 2023 2:18 AM
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Usually even separate cours are split into 2 entries, yet in this case MAL made it one entry.

It’s basically two shorter movies, at the very least.

The stark difference in ratings should be noticable, otherwise some of the best parts of AoT are gonna get mixed with some of the worst parts of it.
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Agreed. Anilist has it split into two. Not sure why there has to be this giant discrepancy between sites. Now post-covid more than ever its a bitch to import between the sites since everyone has to split up entries in whatever way they want. 
Mar 4, 2023 2:28 AM
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yes, I agree 100%, should be two different
Mar 4, 2023 2:31 AM
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Agreed. Anilist has it split into two. Not sure why there has to be this giant discrepancy between sites. Now post-covid more than ever its a bitch to import between the sites since everyone has to split up entries in whatever way they want. 
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.




Mar 4, 2023 2:32 AM
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Yeah I agree. I guess the biggest question is what would you call the 2nd part.

'Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Kanketsu-hen Part 2' doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.


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Mar 4, 2023 2:33 AM
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You can at least "complete" this entry. Imagine having this dangling on your "watching" list until fall lol I like to have things organized
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I agree there should be a split into two separate entries, each one for each part. However, it's not about whether someone likes the upcoming chapters that are going to be animated more than the ones that we could see in the first part. This shouldn't matter when making new entries, because I doubt anyone sane needs a gerrymandering version of anime rating, lol. It's about being faithful to the official naming. After all, Pony Canyon calls Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Kanketsu-hen's continuation not as "second episode", but as Part 2 (ใ€Œ้€ฒๆ’ƒใฎๅทจไบบใ€ The Final SeasonๅฎŒ็ต็ทจ๏ผˆๅพŒ็ทจ๏ผ‰) :


Not to forget that even if we put everything aside, the split would be a logical thing to do. Some might be salty about it, I am aware of that. You know, that the final season of an anime might have 5 entries in total, but it doesn't matter. That's how it is and they are only names of the final seasons of the show. What's more important is content and structure.
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Mar 4, 2023 2:53 AM
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MugiwaraJopa said:
YoshiYogurt said:
Agreed. Anilist has it split into two. Not sure why there has to be this giant discrepancy between sites. Now post-covid more than ever its a bitch to import between the sites since everyone has to split up entries in whatever way they want. 
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.
I made an account there when MAL was down for 3 months straight in 2018.

The tracking of seasonals/currently watching is much better since you can hit +1 right on the home page and it shows what youre behind on for currently airing with a red underline. Profiles let you show more favorites than MAL which is nice .

but MAL UI is better for list sorting, better UI for checking seasonals by year/season , better UI for individual pages of anime. Anilist also like to be cleaner by not having any entries for recaps, which is dumb to me - why be an incomplate database?

Anilist also tries to have a more "modern" look with their bloated UI full of square shapes and empty space. The biggest complaint people have with MAL is that it's "outdated" but to me Anilist is pointlessly trying to look new and cool.

I'd say import your MAL profile over and set up your favorites and currently watching and see if you like it.

I am a big fan of letterboxd. IMDB was always a crappy website to me
Mar 4, 2023 2:59 AM
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Yeah I agree. I guess the biggest question is what would you call the 2nd part.

'Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Kanketsu-hen Part 2' doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.
Amazing, that would just be going along with the meme, I’d laugh my ass off on a title like that :d




Mar 4, 2023 3:04 AM

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However, it's not about whether someone likes the upcoming chapters that are going to be animated more than the ones that we could see in the first part. This shouldn't matter when making new entries, because I doubt anyone sane needs a gerrymandering version of anime rating, lol.
I agree with your whole comment, and of course, entries are never about ratings lol. I just added that as just another point that the watchers might consider, not the MAL admins ๐Ÿšจ




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MugiwaraJopa said:
YoshiYogurt said:
Agreed. Anilist has it split into two. Not sure why there has to be this giant discrepancy between sites. Now post-covid more than ever its a bitch to import between the sites since everyone has to split up entries in whatever way they want. 
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.
I think it's better. It has a better UI and a better scoring system and the manga database is bigger. Tho the mods are fucking annoying and afaik MAL's anime database is bigger. I still prefer AL while the only viable alternative to it is MAL.
Mar 4, 2023 3:37 AM

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Zander_Senpai said:
You can at least "complete" this entry. Imagine having this dangling on your "watching" list until fall lol I like to have things organized
I am doing exactly as you have stated. And I am happy about it.

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Mar 4, 2023 3:38 AM

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It's just 1st special episode of 3rd Part of Final Season. And I don't want to see 4 separate entries with final season.
Mar 4, 2023 3:40 AM

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Eh no, I guess this is just a special/movie rather than a full blown tv series so maybe thats why it doesn't fall under that split-the-cour rule

MugiwaraJopa said:
YoshiYogurt said:
Agreed. Anilist has it split into two. Not sure why there has to be this giant discrepancy between sites. Now post-covid more than ever its a bitch to import between the sites since everyone has to split up entries in whatever way they want. 
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.

Disregarding anilist and mal, which of these 2 you prefer, letterboxd or imdb ? I prefer imdb just a bit more cuz it has tv shows while letterboxd only has movies (its 5 star rating system is soo good tho)
Mar 4, 2023 3:42 AM

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MugiwaraJopa said:
YoshiYogurt said:
Agreed. Anilist has it split into two. Not sure why there has to be this giant discrepancy between sites. Now post-covid more than ever its a bitch to import between the sites since everyone has to split up entries in whatever way they want. 
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.


personally, i would vote for MAL.
i love time stamping feature. they allocated a table/db in theri database for each anime for each user watch time.

+ rewatch counter. albeit, it's hard to use on mobile i think.
easier on desktop mode/browser to complete the rewatch progress (make it count in rewatch counter)

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Za_Panda said:

Disregarding anilist and mal, which of these 2 you prefer, letterboxd or imdb ? I prefer imdb just a bit more cuz it has tv shows while letterboxd only has movies (its 5 star rating system is soo good tho)


Im using Simkl for movie/series at this moment.
IMDb better compared to them?
Mar 4, 2023 3:47 AM

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It would be funny to see how much the score drops if they don't separate it.
Mar 4, 2023 3:48 AM
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Zander_Senpai said:
You can at least "complete" this entry. Imagine having this dangling on your "watching" list until fall lol I like to have things organized
lol just like me fr.
Mar 4, 2023 3:48 AM

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I second this, hoping MAL considers the option
Mar 4, 2023 3:52 AM

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Pure agree. I hope admod respond to this.
Btw, I have a question for you as fans guys, Will the next cour/episode be the end of series in other words are they adapting the Ending or... are there still many chapters/episodes to get to the ending, thanks
Mar 4, 2023 4:06 AM
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Exactly.... it's very confusing
Mar 4, 2023 4:26 AM
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I, for one, hope they never make separate entries for split cours again.

But also this isn’t a tv anime. It’s listed as a special. Only tv anime can be split into two entries. OVA and specials, and ONA’s etc, usually aren’t, because they’re a different format, with the exception of Jojo part 6, which is weird.

Separate entries only makes this app more cluttered, split cours aren’t new series, they’re only split because the industry is fucked and can’t finish their anime on time.

Funnily enough, they seem to only pick and choose which anime have split entries. Older animes that took long breaks in between episodes dont, the lack of consistency makes me wonder why they even bother splitting new ones to begin with.

There really should be a way to, at the very least, lump the split entries into one entry to keep my list as clean as possible.
Mar 4, 2023 4:56 AM

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i mean i agree sorta in the sense that this feels entirely separate from the rest of whats to come. i feel like they should mark it as completed for now and see what news comes for the fall part.

in the end idk why they didnt just wait until fall to release it all together, like im getting sick of waiting multiple months just for like 60 minutes of content and then bam i have to wait another 7 months like..
Mar 4, 2023 5:06 AM

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i'm not too sure, the thought of more aot entries in my list sounds kinda annoying, there's already so much as it is. yeah, i'm fine with the way it is.
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YoshiYogurt said:
MugiwaraJopa said:
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.

I'd say import your MAL profile over and set up your favorites and currently watching and see if you like it.

I am a big fan of letterboxd. IMDB was always a crappy website to me
Thanks for your input, I might do exactly that, import, and see how it's like down the line.
Recently switched to Letterboxd and it's a much cleaner website indeed. Simple always works




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MugiwaraJopa said:
YoshiYogurt said:
Agreed. Anilist has it split into two. Not sure why there has to be this giant discrepancy between sites. Now post-covid more than ever its a bitch to import between the sites since everyone has to split up entries in whatever way they want. 
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.

Yeah dude, it's so much better, at least imo. Tracking your shows is much easier and more modern than Mal. It shows everything on the home page. If you're an episode behind any show, it shows you that you're behind. You can add as many favourites as you want, may it be Anime, Manga or characters.

You can't see ratings of a show there. It shows it in percentage. Ex- 88%, 70%, etc.

Also, the forum system is better in Mal.
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MugiwaraJopa said:
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.


personally, i would vote for MAL.
i love time stamping feature. they allocated a table/db in theri database for each anime for each user watch time.

+ rewatch counter. albeit, it's hard to use on mobile i think.
easier on desktop mode/browser to complete the rewatch progress (make it count in rewatch counter)
Oh fair, yeah the mobile app is missing some features that the desktop website has, I think they're working on it, since they did add a tab for manga somewhat recently




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MugiwaraJopa said:
Usually even separate cours are split into 2 entries, yet in this case MAL made it one entry.

It’s basically two shorter movies, at the very least.

The stark difference in ratings should be noticable, otherwise some of the best parts of AoT are gonna get mixed with some of the worst parts of it.

Nah, 137-139 are goated. It should be kept.
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YoshiYogurt said:
MugiwaraJopa said:
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.
I made an account there when MAL was down for 3 months straight in 2018.

The tracking of seasonals/currently watching is much better since you can hit +1 right on the home page and it shows what youre behind on for currently airing with a red underline. Profiles let you show more favorites than MAL which is nice .

but MAL UI is better for list sorting, better UI for checking seasonals by year/season , better UI for individual pages of anime. Anilist also like to be cleaner by not having any entries for recaps, which is dumb to me - why be an incomplate database?

Anilist also tries to have a more "modern" look with their bloated UI full of square shapes and empty space. The biggest complaint people have with MAL is that it's "outdated" but to me Anilist is pointlessly trying to look new and cool.

I'd say import your MAL profile over and set up your favorites and currently watching and see if you like it.

I am a big fan of letterboxd. IMDB was always a crappy website to me

Letterboxd mess many of the tv shows with some movies of same name, its a good place for movie but keep anime for here and TV shows for IMDB or Serializd.

Letterboxd is pretty good I would say but not for TV shows or anime.
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Fuuuuck no. The naming scheme is already ridiculous enough as is. Both episodes together aren't even long enough to make a single cour of anime. Also, there are a ton of single entry anime that started off strong and nosedived in their ending. AOT's MAL ratings suffering isn't any different.
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Zander_Senpai said:
You can at least "complete" this entry. Imagine having this dangling on your "watching" list until fall lol I like to have things organized

I can’t complete it. Very frustrating
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Zander_Senpai said:
You can at least "complete" this entry. Imagine having this dangling on your "watching" list until fall lol I like to have things organized
I put it ''On-Hold'', a category I use for anime I'm not actively watching.
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MugiwaraJopa said:
Oh fair, yeah the mobile app is missing some features that the desktop website has, I think they're working on it, since they did add a tab for manga somewhat recently


both mobile app and mobile web.
their UX is not 1:1 similar to a desktop ver at all, hahaha

+ I like the backup feature of MAL.
I often export my list as a backup.

not that I use the backup right away. But, I like to have that option.
so, in case something happened to MAL and I need to migrate my list to another service, I could use that file for importing.

probably need to do some scripting job to parse the list, etc.
But, it's a doable option at least

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Jaiimy said:
Zander_Senpai said:
You can at least "complete" this entry. Imagine having this dangling on your "watching" list until fall lol I like to have things organized
I put it ''On-Hold'', a category I use for anime I'm not actively watching.


same.
but of course, a separate entry would be better imho.
but, this work as well.
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YoshiYogurt said:
I made an account there when MAL was down for 3 months straight in 2018.

The tracking of seasonals/currently watching is much better since you can hit +1 right on the home page and it shows what youre behind on for currently airing with a red underline. Profiles let you show more favorites than MAL which is nice .

but MAL UI is better for list sorting, better UI for checking seasonals by year/season , better UI for individual pages of anime. Anilist also like to be cleaner by not having any entries for recaps, which is dumb to me - why be an incomplate database?

Anilist also tries to have a more "modern" look with their bloated UI full of square shapes and empty space. The biggest complaint people have with MAL is that it's "outdated" but to me Anilist is pointlessly trying to look new and cool.

I'd say import your MAL profile over and set up your favorites and currently watching and see if you like it.

I am a big fan of letterboxd. IMDB was always a crappy website to me

Letterboxd mess many of the tv shows with some movies of same name, its a good place for movie but keep anime for here and TV shows for IMDB or Serializd.

Letterboxd is pretty good I would say but not for TV shows or anime.
Yea I only use it for straight up movies/feature films. It really shouldnt go beyond that.
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No, it will continue in the same part, lets stop with all this split bs. And it is funny how manga haters said that the series would go downhill after the rumbling started, then they said it would actually go down after 131 and now you say it will go downhill in the last part. Lmao your cope is so funny.
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It will be, within the 1:05h of film, in minute 34:21 it says Episode 2: The infractors* so yeah, it's 2 eps. The problem here is that MAL should say it's 34 min each.

*Translation of a translation, the title may be a made up word, sorry in advance.
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Yeah I agree. I guess the biggest question is what would you call the 2nd part.

'Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - Kanketsu-hen Part 2' doesn't exactly roll off the tongue.


'Shingeki no Kyojin: The Final Season - The Final Part - The Final Episode'

ROFL

I can't wait for the moment i check "Completed" on this whole damn franchise and be done with it...
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No, it will continue in the same part, lets stop with all this split bs. And it is funny how manga haters said that the series would go downhill after the rumbling started, then they said it would actually go down after 131 and now you say it will go downhill in the last part. Lmao your cope is so funny.
up to 134 is great, the ending will be way better received in the anime i think, most people will drop their score 1 or 2 points and be fine with it
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Enri_eu said:
No, it will continue in the same part, lets stop with all this split bs. And it is funny how manga haters said that the series would go downhill after the rumbling started, then they said it would actually go down after 131 and now you say it will go downhill in the last part. Lmao your cope is so funny.
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Seems a little excessive to me. But if this means some certain older entries are finally split, I'd be down.
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I respectfully disagree
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I agree with your whole comment, and of course, entries are never about ratings lol. I just added that as just another point that the watchers might consider, not the MAL admins ๐Ÿšจ

Haha, I see, it's all good.

By the way, have you considered creating a thread in the forum section dedicated to anime database requests on MAL as well? Surely a thread posted in that category has higher chances to be read or noticed by people responsible for the anime database on MAL, while a thread posted in an anime subforum might be easily omitted by them, especially if they are interested that much in Attack on Titan anime.

Judging from how people reacted to the thread we are in right now I think there might be a lot of positive comments supporting the split written in a thread posted in the forum section I mentioned above.
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No. This is Shingeki no Kyojin, not Split no Kyojin.
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MugiwaraJopa said:
I agree with your whole comment, and of course, entries are never about ratings lol. I just added that as just another point that the watchers might consider, not the MAL admins ๐Ÿšจ

Haha, I see, it's all good.

By the way, have you considered creating a thread in the forum section dedicated to anime database requests on MAL as well? Surely a thread posted in that category has higher chances to be read or noticed by people responsible for the anime database on MAL, while a thread posted in an anime subforum might be easily omitted by them, especially if they are interested that much in Attack on Titan anime.

Judging from how people reacted to the thread we are in right now I think there might be a lot of positive comments supporting the split written in a thread posted in the forum section I mentioned above.
I don't really know much about MAL forums so thanks for letting me know. I might repost there later. Could be interesting to see whether LESS SPLITS or MORE SPLITS wins :)




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I don't really know much about MAL forums so thanks for letting me know. I might repost there later. Could be interesting to see whether LESS SPLITS or MORE SPLITS wins :)

No problem! I don't want to create such thread myself, to not seem like somebody "stealing" somebody else's glory of starting a discussion about this suggestion. :P

Like I said before, I think the arguments are enough to at least consider creating a separate entry for the second minimovie.

If there won't be any split, then on well. It's fine by me as well. After all, it's Kanketsu-hen, aka the concluding chapter. ;)
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Za_Panda said:
Eh no, I guess this is just a special/movie rather than a full blown tv series so maybe thats why it doesn't fall under that split-the-cour rule

MugiwaraJopa said:
A bit off-topic but do you think Anlilist is better than MAL? Is it something like Letterboxd compared to IMDb, if you know those? Might make an account there. 
I do think MAL will at least consider separating these down the line.

Disregarding anilist and mal, which of these 2 you prefer, letterboxd or imdb ? I prefer imdb just a bit more cuz it has tv shows while letterboxd only has movies (its 5 star rating system is soo good tho)

Letterboxd for movies and Trakt for Tv series.
Imbd is very crappy, atleast for me.
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Enri_eu said:
No, it will continue in the same part, lets stop with all this split bs. And it is funny how manga haters said that the series would go downhill after the rumbling started, then they said it would actually go down after 131 and now you say it will go downhill in the last part. Lmao your cope is so funny.

Well they aren't wrong....after ch 131 it gradually goes downhill.... resulting in a very unsatisfactory ending. That's what I think atleast.
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I know right, MAL makes separate entries for much, much less- heck even PV's sometimes even. The last episode of AOT kind of deserves its own entry, right? Plus if it stays like this it's just going to be awkwardly sitting in people's "watching" or "oh-hold" lists until the final part comes out.


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Yeah I agree 100 percent
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please no, no more The Final parts...
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