If the CSM anime such a huge failure than why is the manga, the second highest selling manga of January 2023?

tym0n said:
If I remember correctly CSM was already success in japan without having an anime. In January 2021 the only manga it could not beat were the ones with already popular anime adaptations. I would say that anime didn't bring as big of a boom in popularity and in sales as everyone (especially Shueisha and Mappa) expected. 

Ionliosite2 said:
Because the manga and the anime are different mediums? I don't know, they could be.

King_KK said:

Maybe I worded the question badly but I have explained about it in my description. I was interested in knowing weather the manga received a push from the anime or was it already doing that well.

Given the abysmal reception of CSM anime in Japan, you would expect the manga to take some hit as well but that doesn't seems to be the case. The manga is still going strong despite the anime's failure.

deg said:
its good enough and still a huge success but it never surpass the sales of this when it got anime boosts

anime boosts examples
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba 150 million
Jujutsu Kaisen 70 million
My Hero Academia 85 million

no anime boost
Chainsaw Man 23 million

source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_manga

it barely got so called anime boost on the profit of the manga

King_KK said:

Thanks Man. This is exactly the kind of response I was looking for. So the manga would have sold similar numbers with or without the anime.

Fujimoto is really talented, even a massive failure of an anime couldn't hinder his manga's sales growth.

malinoski554 said:
That's just not true. There's absolutely nothing pointing towards it being a "massive failure", please stop spreading this misinformation. All we know is that it didn't sell as many Blu-rays as expected, but Blu-ray sales are not everything that matters. Trashy waifu-bait shows often outsell the biggest hits in Blu-ray, because the demographic of such shows is more likely to spend huge money on collecting overpriced Blu-rays and other merch with their waifu, than people who watch anime for the story. This doesn't mean that they are more popular.

FZREMAKE said:
Yeah I think it all goes down to comparison. The manga boost was pretty good but if we start comparing it with other shonens that did so much better right after the anime then CSM doesnt feel like a very big shonen. 

King_KK said:

We do have to keep in mind that the other mangas are much longer compared to CSM so doing a direct comparison with them is not fair in my opinion. CSM currently has a average sales per volume ratio of 1.77 with the currently out 13 volumes. So assuming it keeps up with this ratio till it's end than we can create a relative sales figure for CSM.
1 21 volumes(JJK):- 37.17 million
2 23 volumes(Demon Slayer):- 40.71 million
3 37 volumes(My Hero Academia):- 65.49 million

So CSM might never reach as high as other shounens but by the time it ends it won't be considered an unpopular manga either.

King_KK said:

Well then explain why did the manga not receive a massive boost like other mangas like JJK, Tokyo Revengers, Demon Slayer, Spy x Family, etc got. The manga was doing similar numbers before the anime as pointed by the user above. Chainsaw Man received minimal boost because the anime failed to convert anime watchers into manga readers.

Blue ray sales might not be indicative of quality but when fellow shonen anime like JJK is selling over 20K copies than a 2K copies sold is definitely awful. You can't blame waifu bait shows as a reason for CSM's massive underperformance.

I would advise you to stop coping and accept that the CSM anime was a financial failure. We should be glad that the anime's underperformance didn't harm the manga and it's sales are still going strong. CSM might not be in the red due to the streaming profit but it definitely didn't achieved the success that Mappa was hoping it would achieve.

FZREMAKE said:
(Btw can you please explain the relative sales figure. It seems interesting but I couldn't figure it out).

DeFa- said:
He is saying that if csm had the same amount of volumes as those series at its current average sales per volume thats what the numbers would look like.