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Feb 28, 2023 3:55 AM
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new devil looks strong. suicide devil?
"If taking responsibility for a mistake that cannot be undone means death, it's not that hard to die. At least, not as hard as to live on."
Feb 28, 2023 5:02 AM
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new devil looks strong. suicide devil?

probably death devil
Feb 28, 2023 6:37 AM
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!! For a chapter leaking a whole week early I am really fucking surprised at how crazy this shit is!! Kiga meeting with Yoshida to discuss Nostradamus's Prophecy, where the world will end in July 1999-- and it somehow being orchestrated by Kiga. The first Devil responsible for making humanity fall into an abyss of despair... Death!

I am really honestly super surprised that the Death Devil is already showing up. I didn't expect that at all, if I had it my way, we wouldn't have gotten to see Death until like a hypothetical Part 4.

Kiga somehow knowing about this, and Yoru being completely unaware is interesting. I wonder if maybe Kiga isn't even involved, but perhaps she is trying to stop it? Or is she trying to bring something out in Yoru by having her encounter Death this way?

We know that Kiga has been instigating Yoru for some time, reviving the Justice Devil and the Eternity Devil to mess with her, but we never knew why. (She might even have revived the Bat Devil now that I think about it.)
We also never knew how exactly she did it, she probably could have used the help from Death perhaps.
Anyway, back to the why, it looks like she has known about this prophecy, and showed up in Japan when she did because of the prophecy soon beginning. We've been seeing her slowly sew the seeds of humanity's fall, but none of it really is clicking yet. Death herself appeared on her own, but what are the chances that it was right in front of Asa and Yoru ... ? Was it deliberate? Is there something that Kiga and Death need with Yoru to cause the prophecy to be fulfilled? Is Kiga even in on it?

I see there being two scenarios right now, either Kiga has been trying to toughen Yoru up and follow her around to prepare her or somehow try to prevent Death from arriving (it would explain maybe why she doesn't try to hide her identity with a name like "Fami,")
OR
She is working with the Death Devil (her sister) and trying to coerce Yoru into joining her into doing whatever.
It's most likely the latter. The way I see it, Yoru kind of wants to do her own thing, the way Makima snuck her way into society and became politically very powerful for her own benefit, she got to her position because of her grudge against Pochita -- Yoru also has a grudge as well, but she is clearly much more childish than Makima was in her efforts. Maybe Makima and Yoru are alike in that they don't want the world to fall apart the way their sisters do? Yoru seemed to just not want to talk to Asa about Kiga, so they probably aren't on speaking terms at all, like she left their little quadrio of Horsemen to go do her own thing...

Now Kiga and Death have made themselves known and they need Yoru (and probably Nayuta) to complete the prophecy to end the world or whatever.

Obviously, that's why we follow Asa, because she will probably not want to go through with this!

The pace of Part 2 is finally shifting!! I am all in for the madness to finally start!!

I welcome Death with open arms!!!!
Feb 28, 2023 8:34 AM
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Holy shit. This chapter blew my mind. Arguably the best chapter of part 2. I am genuinely shocked by everything that happened. I am not sure how is Nostradamus prophecy is related to Fami but we know that she wants to make it a reality.

Also Death Devil shows up. The devil that created the concept of fear itself has to be the death devil. Yoru seems entirely powerless compared to her.

Now we know why Yoshida said that "can Chainsaw Man eat the death devil for us" back in the aquarium arc. Him and public safety are betting on Denji to defeat the Death Devil.

I am extremely intrigued what's gonna happen next. What does Death wants? What does Fami wants? How is this prediction related to the horsemen's? What does Chainsaw Man has to do with all this? I can't wait for all these questions to be answered.

Overall chapter rating:-6/5
Feb 28, 2023 9:01 AM
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ok the first devil that given everyone fear eh its gonna be the Death Devil alright since her target all did suicide anyway

glad to see the Death Devil is a woman too so maybe all 4 Horsemen Devils are sisters after all

im guessing Denji or Chainsaw Man is crazy enough to not fear death so thats how he will fight the Death Devil
Mar 1, 2023 2:49 AM
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Oh the fuck, so rare to find a CSM chapter leak. Not only that, but this chapter is crazy

Death Devil reveal already?? That would be fucking insane. Coming out of those corpses... pretty cool imagery, but Darkness Devil's reveal was much more dreadful... which makes me think this might just not be the Death Devil yet. Could be another Primordial Devil.

I found it really funny how that guy and his gf just decided to kill themselves lol. I love how they have CSM pillows on the couch. Also proves Asa didn't really think about killing herself in the previous chapter.

Friendly reminder that there's a baby on the panel where people are falling off the building.

Idk I really am not sure that this is the Death Devil yet. She doesn't resemble none of her sisters, doesn't have much of a human form like them. Also why would the Death Devil force everyone in the building to commit suicide, when Death is such a broad term and they could've died in many ways? Fami did say that her name is the root of all fear... and Death is the root of all fear...

Fami, Nayuta and Yoru DO hype this Devil up but I'm not sure yet
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Mar 1, 2023 10:30 AM
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Death devil? How tf are they gonna beat it? Denji?
Mar 1, 2023 1:48 PM
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i did not expect that to be the death devil, i expected her to look like a normal girl like the other horsemen. it might be suicide devil or something like that because like idk. it just doesnt feel enough to be the death devil. but maybe it is who knows. also if denji eats the death devil, death will stop existing right? unless he just does the same thing that he did to makima but then someone else would have to raise a mini death devil and fujimoto would be reusing plot, itd he much more interesting to see death stop existing tbh thatd be like insane
Mar 1, 2023 3:03 PM
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MugiwaraJopa said:
Oh the fuck, so rare to find a CSM chapter leak. Not only that, but this chapter is crazy

Death Devil reveal already?? That would be fucking insane. Coming out of those corpses... pretty cool imagery, but Darkness Devil's reveal was much more dreadful... which makes me think this might just not be the Death Devil yet. Could be another Primordial Devil.

I found it really funny how that guy and his gf just decided to kill themselves lol. I love how they have CSM pillows on the couch. Also proves Asa didn't really think about killing herself in the previous chapter.

Friendly reminder that there's a baby on the panel where people are falling off the building.

Idk I really am not sure that this is the Death Devil yet. She doesn't resemble none of her sisters, doesn't have much of a human form like them. Also why would the Death Devil force everyone in the building to commit suicide, when Death is such a broad term and they could've died in many ways? Fami did say that her name is the root of all fear... and Death is the root of all fear...

Fami, Nayuta and Yoru DO hype this Devil up but I'm not sure yet
Might be rather something to do with a contract. This chapter reminds me of the puppet master. A huge sacrifice was made for something to happen this time, just like back then.

Is there a life devil though? Life is scary, nobody can be scared unless they are alive. Isn't life the scariest of them all since it encompasses all the fears?

You can have life without death, the so called devils themselves that keep reincarnating, technically they don't really die. You can't have death without life.

Since it's a fantasy setting there might be truly immortal beings within this realm.
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Mar 1, 2023 4:31 PM

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4/5

Great freaking chapter dude, one of the best so far. Fujimotor expanding in his lore and really leaving us craving for more

We start off with Fami & Yoshida having a random lunch session in what I'm assuming is the same restaurant Yoshida invited Denji to in chapter 103. Fami is a binge-eater, love it!! Could also be because she's literally the Famine or Hunger devil. The irony of Famine devil being hungry all the time is something I can stick by😂. I guess this chapter confirmed that Yoshida & Fami are not really in kahoots with each other but could be fighting against a common enemy? Fujimoto just had to bring in another real life event (Nostradamus prophecies) into his lore, didn't he? I love when he blurs fact & fiction together in his stories. In this case, since the story is set in the late 90's, it's totally justified. Speaking of Nostradamus prophecies, He also prohecised Nuclear weapons which just so happen to be a major plot detail that we started out with in part 2. As for the July prophecy, an anti-christ entity was to be descended from the sky, causing utter havoc & apocalypse in human realm. Taking Fami's monologue on primal fear into account, its pretty clear that everything is alluding to Death here. I still have my doubts but it's almost certain now

We cut to this regular couple, talking normal life and suddenly outta nowhere, they jump of their balconies plumetting to their deaths. So sudden & ominously presented that i was literally gasping. The Ruler sword is cute but even Yoru seems to be very wary of this particular devil and even admits defeat and starts to run. A devil forms behind her, a weird looking design sure but definitely not Death devil itself . Could be something like suicide devil as suicide is a part of death, so on & so forth but we'll see

Brilliant lore-centric chapter which we rarely get from CSM. No Denji & Nayuta this chapter but it's very clear that Fujimoto is cooking something really massive here and I have my guard up proactively
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Mar 1, 2023 4:58 PM

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i did not expect that to be the death devil, i expected her to look like a normal girl like the other horsemen. it might be suicide devil or something like that because like idk. it just doesnt feel enough to be the death devil. but maybe it is who knows. also if denji eats the death devil, death will stop existing right? unless he just does the same thing that he did to makima but then someone else would have to raise a mini death devil and fujimoto would be reusing plot, itd he much more interesting to see death stop existing tbh thatd be like insane


I guess it's not Death devil itself but a manifestation of its power and like you said, something like a suicide devil or something. Suicide is basically related to death so it could be an extension of Death devil's power
Mar 2, 2023 4:31 AM
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if Death Devil is defeated will resurrecting dead characters be possible?
Mar 3, 2023 12:08 AM

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How tf are they supposed to kill death itself??? Fujimoto is cooking something again istg
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Mar 4, 2023 8:10 AM

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Kuma said:
new devil looks strong. suicide devil?
Also thought about suicide devil, I can't think about anything else instead
Mar 4, 2023 8:24 AM

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I found interesting that if its actually Death devil, being a fear so strong, got out of Hell... meaning the death devil died? Or else Kiga made a contract to send the devil to the human world
Mar 7, 2023 7:03 AM
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Committing suicide seems like a reasonable solution to exuberant car insurance costs.
Mar 7, 2023 7:08 AM

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"Die? Sure, let's die."

I know this is supposed to be serious, but this got me cracking.

Guess the final of four horse(wo)men too is here, Death devil. But yeah we're not sure yet. Though one thing is for sure, Asa will catch an L once again.
Mar 7, 2023 7:13 AM
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Wow... I mean... WOW. So I guess the goal of csm part 2 is to stop/kill "The Ultimate Terror" (what ever that means).
Mar 7, 2023 7:32 AM
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This chapter blew my mind, Fujimoto-sensei is continuing to cook. Let him cook!! 🔥 have to also appreciate how good his art-style is especially in this chapter.
Mar 7, 2023 7:32 AM

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Huh well the official translation changes the chapter completely.

Now it's obvious that that isn't the Death Devil like we thought. Fami said it's "The first of the devils who will shepherd the world to the ultimate terror" and that it's a Devil of one of the Primal fears.




Mar 7, 2023 7:34 AM
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OKay so theoretically part 2 will be about saving the world/stopping this prophecy thing, I wonder how Asa and the War Devil will be involved with that. I know Denji's definitely going to be an important player, and Nayuta might also be pretty important, though I'm excited to see how this is going to go in the long run.

I'm also guessing that might be something like a suicide devil, it has many arms and one of the ways to harm yourself involves cutting your wrists and stuff and wrists are on arms so... Idk maybe it's something else, it's cool how Yoru's able to maybe recognize who that was? Hoping that's not death devil because that would definitely be too op and early.
Mar 7, 2023 7:41 AM

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CSM is getting spicy now. Yoshida confronts Fami about a Doomsday Prophecy, and that Devil at the end was creepy as hell. Lots of speculation that it's Death, but we'll just have to wait and see what Fujimoto is cooking. These next chapters are about to be crazy. 
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Mar 7, 2023 7:45 AM

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I think it is indeed Suicide Devil, look at this chart with sudden growth of suicides rate around year 1997 in Japan.

Of course irl it was caused by financial crisis but I guess Fujimoto will use devil for it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1997_Asian_financial_crisis



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Mar 7, 2023 7:47 AM

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DEATH D OR SUICIDE D?!
The idea of the personification of Famine eating huge amounts followed by acts of mass suicide emphasizes the balance of darkness and silliness in this series.

Mar 7, 2023 7:59 AM

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Holy... smokes.. that was something else there. Fami Senpai seems chill for now. But, yeah I'm looking forward to this new devil. Is it Suicide Devil?
Mar 7, 2023 8:43 AM

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Kuma said:
new devil looks strong. suicide devil?

probably death devil

I don’t think it’d be Death because Fami said Primal Fear and not Horseman, thought it’s possible. My guess is either suicide or heights
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Mar 7, 2023 9:27 AM

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A primal fear, huh. Death would be too obvious
Mar 7, 2023 9:33 AM
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why dont we all just die. and also booba:)
Mar 7, 2023 9:43 AM
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I keep talking about how part 2 is taking it's time and we all need to calm down and let Fujimoto cook because something crazy is going to come. Welp. Here it is.
Mar 7, 2023 9:52 AM

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Death devil? How tf are they gonna beat it? Denji?
Remember Denji in his "awakened" chainsaw form did beat the manifestation of hell in the human world.

So all about how strong the manifestation is in the human world.
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Mar 7, 2023 10:16 AM
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Suicide devil?!?
Mar 7, 2023 10:19 AM

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A primal fear huh

It is probably not Death. Death Devil will get an entrance like Gun and Darkness. 

Mar 7, 2023 10:28 AM
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Very very bad things are coming... What primal devil is this?! What Devil is coming in July, 1999?! Can Denji save everyone?! Find out next time on "This manga is going to give me an aneurysm"
Mar 7, 2023 11:01 AM
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Death Devil confirmed?
Mar 7, 2023 2:05 PM
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I laughed when a ton of ppl were jumping off their balconies.
Mar 7, 2023 3:43 PM

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Well that sure was creepy
Setting up for big events, I live for this stuff!
Mar 7, 2023 4:31 PM
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Oh shit, another primal fear devil! Suicide Devil? Death Devil?

Note to self, don't take Fami out to eat unless you want to say goodbye to all your money, she's starving.
Mar 7, 2023 6:04 PM
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Now THIS was one hella good chapter! But gosh, that cliff-hanger! I want to know what primal fear does that devil incarnate! The Car Insurance Devil? Being from the EU country with the most expensive one, I wouldn't be surprised lol
Mar 7, 2023 6:24 PM

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I don't know why but the demon of hunger causes me a feeling of suspense and laughter, and with Yoshida these feelings are intensified

What demon will Yoru have fled from?
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Mar 7, 2023 6:32 PM

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Wait what year does CSM play in? Of 1999 is still in the future
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Mar 7, 2023 6:58 PM
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This was such a great chapter, Death or Suicide devil, i am excited!
Mar 7, 2023 8:04 PM
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I think I've found a movie reference in this chapter!

The scene in which the people in the apartment fell to their deaths is definitely a reference to "Suicide Club" (2001)!

Fujimoto channelling his inner cinephile again!
Mar 7, 2023 9:29 PM

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Fudgin neat chapter cause i love Yoshida since he looks so silly at times but actually is serious at his job.
It's like he can adapt/mimic the environment or situation very well like with Denji then with Asa (LOL) and now with Kiga. You can clearly see he's super cautious while demanding and patient for answers from her.
I mean he's not contracted with the octopus devil for nothin.

Also that Nostradamus theory is goated, can't wait for more big events in the near future especially 1999 there.
Mar 7, 2023 10:09 PM

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I am getting the bigger picture of what I am seeing on the whole saga (or I might be wrong)
First saga was more focused on phobia (bomb, shark, ghost or etc..)
Now, the second saga of chainsaw man tackles more on fear basing on theology (like seven deadly sins and four horseman of apocalypse)
Getting the idea that denji ain't the MC of this saga.
Though not sure about the Devil but the Death Devil is the most obvious one or it could be anything like sin devil?
I make OC maymay
Mar 7, 2023 11:11 PM
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Death is a Primal Fear anyway
Mar 8, 2023 12:30 AM

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Wait what year does CSM play in? Of 1999 is still in the future
1997. In chapter 75 (gun devil debut) there was a date: September 12, 1997
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I am getting the bigger picture of what I am seeing on the whole saga (or I might be wrong)
First saga was more focused on phobia (bomb, shark, ghost or etc..)
Now, the second saga of chainsaw man tackles more on fear basing on theology (like seven deadly sins and four horseman of apocalypse)
Getting the idea that denji ain't the MC of this saga.
Though not sure about the Devil but the Death Devil is the most obvious one or it could be anything like sin devil?


Well yeah shuiseha confirmed that asa is the protagonist of this saga
Mar 8, 2023 4:13 AM
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Okay Fujimotoo, what the hell was that at the end?
Mar 8, 2023 4:24 AM

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official japanese version : https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/4856001361023709393

page 1 :
- hunger devil : give me 30 servings of food . im the hunger devil , so of course im always in hunger . i have a bottomless stomach . don't make me HUNGRY . You wouldn't like me when I'm HUNGRY .

octopus boy is a very busy boy : he had a loving date with denji , then he had a date with asa in the club room , and now he has a date with hungry devil , lol .

- octopus boy : ... kiga-senpai . no . "kiga no akuma" , should i call you with that name ?
- famine devil : "kiga-chan" , call me with that name .
( kiga literally means hunger / hungry / famine in japanese )

page 4 :
- octopus boy : ... nostradamus 's great prophecies ... , terror 's great demon king ( daimaoh ) will descent ...
- me : the daimaoh ? this manga will be turning into a fantasy magical isekai ? then who will be the yuusha / brave hero ?

- random man : if i can not own a car , what is the point of living anymore ? lets jump .

page 13 : the jumping peoples and the apartment building in the back-ground dont match . 2 peoples dont have the lower half of their bodies . i guess because 1 assisstant drew the peoples , and another assisstant drew the back-ground .

- war devil : ... the mighty sword of the mighty ruler ...
- OMG , that name sounds so cool . ruler is a person who rules or governs; someone that exercises dominion or controlling power over others , right ?
- war devil : er , no . in this case , ruler is a rigid , flat, rectangular measuring or drawing device with graduations in units of measurement; a straightedge with markings . i will use this ruler to spank the butt of that devil .

last page :
- war devil : the most bestest stratagem in the 36 stratagems is : if all else fails, RUN FOR YOUR LIFE . ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-Six_Stratagems )
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↑↑ lol best comment.

daywithoutgames said:

official japanese version : https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/4856001361023709393

page 13 : the jumping peoples and the apartment building in the back-ground dont match . 2 peoples dont have the lower half of their bodies . i guess because 1 assisstant drew the peoples , and another assisstant drew the back-ground .





Well observed. It must be the job of an overwork devil.
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