Monogatari Series: First Season
| I do not mean to be insulting, but I find people are very generous to this movie. I love the monogatari series but this movie is only 1 hour in length (3episodes), whereas I see people rating Naruto, One Piece and Bleach Very low ratings despite seeing hundreds of episodes. This isn't me complaining, I'm just wondering, what can be done within 3 episodes of time, that makes it so amazing? |
| Feature films are a related but different medium from TV. Shorter length and longer gaps between releases = different pacing and different priorities so expecting them to be rated on the same "things achieved per hour" standard is pointless. |
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Otakupervert890 said: Yeah I agree, it's quality is amazing.Its not about quantity it's about quality. Shaft got a home run with this trilogy in fact with the whole saga. |
ktg said: Stuff happens in every episode, I have seen them all.40% of all the Naruto eps are fillers, so that's like almost 300 eps where nothing significant happens. |
| This is one of the dumbest opinions I have ever seen, by your logic a movie's quality can never compare to a long spanning series. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
winkwinkwinkz said: realistically, yes. Assuming you don't hate watch, longer shows should be better as they can keep you entertained for wayyy longer. Unless of course, this movie is so enjoyable you rewatch it many times.more episode = more rating ? 😩 |
Theo1899 said: is a Feature film the same as a movie, I've never heard of this before? Any how I expect the same standards from any thing I watch.Feature films are a related but different medium from TV. Shorter length and longer gaps between releases = different pacing and different priorities so expecting them to be rated on the same "things achieved per hour" standard is pointless. |
| Both of your arguments fall apart when you realize that length / quantity of episodes does not equate to quality and when you realize that One Piece doesn't have low ratings at all and is around the top 50 sitting at an 8.68 at the time of writing this. How could an 8.68 possibly be low? |
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LostSpectre said: Not true, when a movie is so enjoyable you rewatch it many times, I've seen Koe No Katachi (2 Hours = 6 episodes), 4 times now which makes it as good as a 24 episode season. You have to ask yourself for movies you would never rewatch if they're really as good as you think.This is one of the dumbest opinions I have ever seen, by your logic a movie's quality can never compare to a long spanning series. |
BestListMAL said: That makes no sense, there's no such thing as factoring cumulative enjoyment, a 1,000 episode series uses the same rating system as a 20 minute special. winkwinkwinkz said: realistically, yes. Assuming you don't hate watch, longer shows should be better as they can keep you entertained for wayyy longer. Unless of course, this movie is so enjoyable you rewatch it many times.more episode = more rating ? 😩 |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
tacopacker said: This movie is only 1 hour though because it is spilt up into 3 movies. And yeah you are right I prefer seasons.length should not matter. It is also a 3 hr movie, which is long by movie standards. Perhaps you prefer seasons over movies cause you prefer longer more in depth stories. |
LostSpectre said: If you watch hundreds of really good episodes, surely this franchise is better than 1 hour of good content? That makes no sense, there's no such thing as factoring cumulative enjoyment, a 1,000 episode series uses the same rating system as a 20 minute special. |
BestListMAL said: Rewatching is a completely separate issue, that has more to do with personal preference than any inherent measure of quality. LostSpectre said: Not true, when a movie is so enjoyable you rewatch it many times, I've seen Koe No Katachi (2 Hours = 6 episodes), 4 times now which makes it as good as a 24 episode season. You have to ask yourself for movies you would never rewatch if they're really as good as you think.This is one of the dumbest opinions I have ever seen, by your logic a movie's quality can never compare to a long spanning series. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
TheAngryNerd said: Yeah it has a pretty good score, I don't think the length itself equates to quality but rather, the time YOU spent watching. If you dropped a long show it isn't as good.Both of your arguments fall apart when you realize that length / quantity of episodes does not equate to quality and when you realize that One Piece doesn't have low ratings at all and is around the top 50 sitting at an 8.68 at the time of writing this. How could an 8.68 possibly be low? |
BestListMAL said: That is simply not how ratings work, but there's no point comparing a movie to a series spanning hundreds of episodes, that's pointless.LostSpectre said: If you watch hundreds of really good episodes, surely this franchise is better than 1 hour of good content? That makes no sense, there's no such thing as factoring cumulative enjoyment, a 1,000 episode series uses the same rating system as a 20 minute special. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: why wouldn't you rewatch something so high quality, but spend your time watching hundreds of episodes of low quality, to me this doesn't make sense outside of hate watching.Rewatching is a completely separate issue, that has more to do with personal preference than any inherent measure of quality. |
LostSpectre said: well that's how my ratings work and I have the best list on MAL.That is simply not how ratings work, but there's no point comparing a movie to a series spanning hundreds of episodes, that's pointless. |
mattnoce said: In my opinion, every anime is infinite in length as you can rewatch as many times as you want. So the question is why do people only watch 3 episodes of something they consider their favourite, but hundreds of something they claim to hate. To my this is very interesting.What does length of content have to do with anything? If it’s good, it’s good. If it’s bad, it’s bad |
BestListMAL said: It's called novelty, human beings are always craving new forms of stimulation in our fast paced technological world. It's just a preference whether you get more enjoyment from rewatching shows you've already seen compared to new ones. No one said it makes sense to watch a long-running show if you dislike it, but many people are completionists or masochists here, so take that how you will. LostSpectre said: why wouldn't you rewatch something so high quality, but spend your time watching hundreds of episodes of low quality, to me this doesn't make sense outside of hate watching.Rewatching is a completely separate issue, that has more to do with personal preference than any inherent measure of quality. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
BestListMAL said: That's dumb, every long running show should get a 10 then because of cumulative enjoyment, but that doesn't reflect the overall quality of the seriesLostSpectre said: well that's how my ratings work and I have the best list on MAL.That is simply not how ratings work, but there's no point comparing a movie to a series spanning hundreds of episodes, that's pointless. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| I just took a look at your profile. Yeah, you're either just a troll or you're actually brain dead, either way this is a pointless conversation. Cheers. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: I guess these people would need a different rating system to mine,It's called novelty, human beings are always craving new forms of stimulation in our fast paced technological world. It's just a preference whether you get more enjoyment from rewatching shows you've already seen compared to new ones. No one said it makes sense to watch a long-running show if you dislike it, but many people are completionists or masochists here, so take that how you will. That's dumb, every long running show should get a 10 then because of cumulative enjoyment, but that doesn't reflect the overall quality of the series I haven't got bleach a 10, because I haven't seen it, and if I dropped it early on I would have only seen let's say 5 episodes giving it a low score. You see my rating system is always two steps a head of any counter arguement, as facts should be. |
LostSpectre said: I'm not a troll, I hate this baseless accusation from MAL members as it attempts to get a user banned for no reason, I've never insulted anyone and even said the monogatari series is amazing. :( why call me a troller.I just took a look at your profile. Yeah, you're either just a troll or you're actually brain dead, either way this is a pointless conversation. Cheers. |
In my opinion, every anime is infinite in length as you can rewatch as many times as you want. So the question is why do people only watch 3 episodes of something they consider their favourite, but hundreds of something they claim to hate. To my this is very interesting. if a movie was so good, you would assume it would be rewatched due to how short of a time it would take up.MAL ratings are not based off rewatchability. An anime doesn’t need to rewatched to be good hahahaha Kizumonogatari is easily one of the highest quality anime movies ever made. All 3 of these movies have better quality than most one piece, bleach, and naruto episodes. But of course it would, they’re movies with movie budgets. Idk what point you’re trying to make. Kizu is good, one piece is good. Both are different obviously |
| ok, even if you skipped 300 episodes, that's still 420 episodes you have seen, compared to just 3 episodes of Kizumonogatari movie 1. |
This is pretty stupid take. |
abqve said: if it was so bad, they wouldn't have seen so many episodes. the simple fact they've seen so many episodes, factually proves they like it more.there’s a difference. this is 1 hour of quality vs hundreds of episodes of dogshit. people don’t base their ratings only on number of episodes lol |
I don’t think how long something keeps you entertained should matter, rather how much you like it. With your logic some boring trash which I hated but watched for 24 episodes should be rated higher than a 2 hour movie that made me shed tears. Ratings should be based on enjoyment and how much you actually liked the show along with its quality. Not how long the show was |
And still that one movie has more meaning and depth than the whole Naruto series that actually full of plotholes. |
Perfectrockstar said: I am indeed special when it comes to rating, I am the chosen one, the Messiah of good taste, and the owner of the best list on mal.This dudes way of thinking reminds me of the minds of how special Ed people think where there’s a whole very important step that he inadvertently skips and it just drastically changes the end result of said thought/rating. Pretty wonky ngl |
| Movies tend to have higher quality and a plot/arc/set of arcs in just 1 to 2 hours of film. As for example, Futari wa Pretty Cure Max Heart vs movie 1 (since I watched it recently, not using it as an example for general quality lol) has a higher screen quality and 16:9 screen rather than the typical old box size used for the TV series. For Kizu, there's also the fact that it has been delayed by a lot of years, and iirc it had about 2 years of development without counting that delay. If you compare that to, for example, One Piece that has to get an amount of arcs/episodes ready for a more limited time, then you can pretty much see the difference. Another good example of movie quality, though original, is Eiga Daisuki Pompo-san (which I highly recommend :)). Most of movie versions for popular shows can serve as an example too, as they can add new scenes or change animation sequences/quality (case of Madoka Magica 1 and 2 movies) and you can really see the difference in there. TL;DR: more time + budget = better quality. I'm, by no means, saying that long-running shows are bad, btw. Just that, in general, movies are treated better. |
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| People aren't being generous, they are being honest. Length of a series is not equaling to the quality anyway. |
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