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| The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? |
Polyethylene said: what was the one that got poorly received? Shokei Shoujo no Virgin Road. |
Polyethylene said: i don't see how it got poorly received, top reviews are positive and rating is more than 5, 6 even, almost 7 to boot. Not even 7 is poorly received on this site, you should know that's how weird the standards are here. |
Ionliosite2 said: The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? Mod edit: added spoiler tag |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:04 PM
Marina2 said: Ionliosite2 said: The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? Mod edit: added spoiler tag |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:05 PM
| I don't know the answer to your question, but for me personally I watched virgin road ep1 and didn't like it so I dropped it, while I liked the first episode of this one. I didn't even know virgin road was a yuri, you just taught me. |
| This one kind of similar to My Next Life as a Villainess. Yes, otome bait. |
That's all about it. Being Isekai+yuri has nothing to do with the reception. If the show is good, people will love it. Mod edit: added spoiler tag |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:07 PM
Marina2 said: Being Isekai+yuri has nothing to do with the reception. If the show is good, people will love it. And Shokei Shoujo no Virgin Road is good, but I know that scene on the first episode angered people. Mod edit: added spoiler tag |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:08 PM
Ionliosite2 said: Shokei Shoujo is kinda a bit too edgy at the start for the mainstream that is MAL populace. It's pretty nice, tho.Polyethylene said: what was the one that got poorly received? Shokei Shoujo no Virgin Road. Here's a tip: MAL rating sucks. Often reviews as well. Learn to ignore what they think, since they won't care about what you think, too. |
Ionliosite2 said: well idk about this since I haven't seen it, but there are a few reasons for why virgin road failed.The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? 1. it killed the male self-insert, which alienated some of the trash isekai lovers. which were a good chunk of the people who gave it a chance. 2. the writing wasn't great. so the people who stuck around for the interesting concept or good production, realized it's only an ok show and nothing ground breaking. 3. the dub sucked dick. love it or hate it, dubs have an affect of the popularity of shows in the west. and that show's dub is really poor. normally people ignore average level writing if the like the concept. but in vigin road it was average-poor in a very boring why. it has way too many info dumps. something like rezero can get away with that, because it's way of being average in writing is having masterpiece level elements, and terrible elements. so show it to the right people and they will hail it as a masterpiece. the writing in virgin road, was not a mixed bag. it was room temperature at best. |
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Apolygon2 said: Ionliosite2 said: well idk about this since I haven't seen it, but there are a few reasons for why virgin road failed.The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? 1. it killed the male self-insert, which alienated some of the trash isekai lovers. which were a good chunk of the people who gave it a chance. 2. the writing wasn't great. so the people who stuck around for the interesting concept or good production, realized it's only an ok show and nothing ground breaking. 3. the dub sucked dick. love it or hate it, dubs have an affect of the popularity of shows in the west. and that show's dub is really poor. normally people ignore average level writing if the like the concept. but in vigin road it was average-poor in a very boring why. it has way too many info dumps. something like rezero can get away with that, because it's way of being average in writing is having masterpiece level elements, and terrible elements. so show it to the right people and they will hail it as a masterpiece. the writing in virgin road, was not a mixed bag. it was room temperature at best. I think Virgin Road is better written than Re Zero but that's not what I'm going to get at. I know big part of the reason was because it killed the random guy at the beggining who people thought was going to be the protagonist... for some reason, but that is a thought people made themselves without looking at literally anything else of the series before of the premiere I guess. And Re Zero has way more info dumps |
Ionliosite2 said: I mean yes, re:zero does share a lot of this show's problems. info dumps being one of them.Apolygon2 said: well idk about this since I haven't seen it, but there are a few reasons for why virgin road failed. 1. it killed the male self-insert, which alienated some of the trash isekai lovers. which were a good chunk of the people who gave it a chance. 2. the writing wasn't great. so the people who stuck around for the interesting concept or good production, realized it's only an ok show and nothing ground breaking. 3. the dub sucked dick. love it or hate it, dubs have an affect of the popularity of shows in the west. and that show's dub is really poor. normally people ignore average level writing if the like the concept. but in vigin road it was average-poor in a very boring why. it has way too many info dumps. something like rezero can get away with that, because it's way of being average in writing is having masterpiece level elements, and terrible elements. so show it to the right people and they will hail it as a masterpiece. the writing in virgin road, was not a mixed bag. it was room temperature at best. I think Virgin Road is better written than Re Zero but that's not what I'm going to get at. I know big part of the reason was because it killed the random guy at the beggining who people thought was going to be the protagonist... for some reason, but that is a thought people made themselves without looking at literally anything else of the series before of the premiere I guess. And Re Zero has way more info dumps but that's exactly why I said rezero's writing is a mixed bag. it has info dumps, but it has an extremely rich, unique and alive world that you can't help wanting to know more about. it has plot convenience, but it uses shock value to perfection, and somehow hides it's plot armor in a way that next to no one even notices it. it's character progression can be really messy, but the aim for what that progression is trying to be, is so high that if it pulled it off the show would have had some of the best characters in fiction. re:zero in my honest opinion is a failed attempt to create a masterpiece. virgin road is just an ok show. it has half or less than rezero's problems, but it also does doesn't do anything even close to the best of what rezero manages to do. although I must add, I never finished virgin road, so what I'm saying is only based of the first 4 episodes. |
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| I thought it was only getting positively received because it is yuri. Look at the difference between ratings and comments between this show and the other ones like Spy Kyoushitsu and Ningen Fushin. Be aware that Spy Kyoushitsu has like 5x more followers than this show on jp twitter. There is no reason this rating is this much higher unless the npcs are everywhere on forums like r/anime, mal, twitter. Also if you see a lot of comments on other shows, they will be live "I gave up after 5 minutes" (which is barely the op) while this show people are saying is the "show of the season". Even above Vinland saga Well as long as Fantasia Bunko can profit off this series that will be great but the woke will definitely cause collateral on everything they touch |
Apolygon2 said: Ionliosite2 said: I mean yes, re:zero does share a lot of this show's problems. info dumps being one of them.I think Virgin Road is better written than Re Zero but that's not what I'm going to get at. I know big part of the reason was because it killed the random guy at the beggining who people thought was going to be the protagonist... for some reason, but that is a thought people made themselves without looking at literally anything else of the series before of the premiere I guess. And Re Zero has way more info dumps but that's exactly why I said rezero's writing is a mixed bag. it has info dumps, but it has an extremely rich, unique and alive world that you can't help wanting to know more about. it has plot convenience, but it uses shock value to perfection, and somehow hides it's plot armor in a way that next to no one even notices it. it's character progression can be really messy, but the aim for what that progression is trying to be, is so high that if it pulled it off the show would have had some of the best characters in fiction. re:zero in my honest opinion is a failed attempt to create a masterpiece. virgin road is just an ok show. it has half or less than rezero's problems, but it also does doesn't do anything even close to the best of what rezero manages to do. although I must add, I never finished virgin road, so what I'm saying is only based of the first 4 episodes. I mean, in my eyes, I prefer consistency than a mixed bag, even if one is "ok" consistency it is better than what isn't consistent, but whatever, I'm not trying to brought up Re Zero into this since my point isn't even comparing series, even less something like Re Zero, which in my opinion is a failed attempt at deconstructing isekai. |
Ionliosite2 said: The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? It's the npcs spamming 10s on it as soon as they read yuri and praising this as the show of the season on r/anime, mal. Just look at the stats. It gives an idea of how many npcs are active online. It is unheard for a new show from a small studio with low members to get a rating this high compared to other shows. Look at spy classroom. That show has studio feel, way more members as well in Japan, yet people are already reviewing bombing it without watching |
icefirestone23 said: Ionliosite2 said: The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? It's the npcs spamming 10s on it as soon as they read yuri and praising this as the show of the season on r/anime, mal. Just look at the stats. It gives an idea of how many npcs are active online. It is unheard for a new show from a small studio with low members to get a rating this high compared to other shows. Look at spy classroom. That show has studio feel, way more members as well in Japan, yet people are already reviewing bombing it without watching I think you are being a little rough on this one, I mean, I don't think it is bad at least it hasn't done anything bad and the first episode was at least entertaining. I can't comment on the people about Ningen Fushin, and in Spy Kyoushitsu is true that many people are saying that it was boring. |
Ionliosite2 said: icefirestone23 said: It's the npcs spamming 10s on it as soon as they read yuri and praising this as the show of the season on r/anime, mal. Just look at the stats. It gives an idea of how many npcs are active online. It is unheard for a new show from a small studio with low members to get a rating this high compared to other shows. Look at spy classroom. That show has studio feel, way more members as well in Japan, yet people are already reviewing bombing it without watching I think you are being a little rough on this one, I mean, I don't think it is bad at least it hasn't done anything bad and the first episode was at least entertaining. I can't comment on the people about Ningen Fushin, and in Spy Kyoushitsu is true that many people are saying that it was boring. It wasn't boring at all. Spy kyoushitsu is pretty good. A lot of surprises. I read a lot of the comments on spy kyoushitsu on r/anime and mal and there are definitely a lot of npcs hungry for blood. Most of them didn't even seem to watch the first episode and go on to bash it. But when you see comments for this show, people are already saying it will be better than vinland saga. |
icefirestone23 said: Ionliosite2 said: I think you are being a little rough on this one, I mean, I don't think it is bad at least it hasn't done anything bad and the first episode was at least entertaining. I can't comment on the people about Ningen Fushin, and in Spy Kyoushitsu is true that many people are saying that it was boring. It wasn't boring at all. Spy kyoushitsu is pretty good. A lot of surprises. I read a lot of the comments on spy kyoushitsu on r/anime and mal and there are definitely a lot of npcs hungry for blood. Most of them didn't even seem to watch the first episode and go on to bash it. But when you see comments for this show, people are already saying it will be better than vinland saga. I guess that is because Spy Kyoushitsu started slower than this one if we want to compare a little between these first episodes, Spy was slower paced meanwhile this one was directly to action. Not that it is neccesarily a problem for it to be slow paced, but people nowadays cannot wait of couple of episodes to see if the series gets good or if it doesn't. |
Ionliosite2 said: Spy Kyoushitsu is more likely to be successful and last longer than this one in the end. Both series are by Fujimi Fantasia Bunko. Right now there is a large gap between twitter followers. 100K vs 20K. Also they were prepping and hyping Spy Kyoushitsu for almost a year, and trying to secure the cast. So classroom got better marketing, better studio, more cours, and already moving to the merchandise phase.icefirestone23 said: It wasn't boring at all. Spy kyoushitsu is pretty good. A lot of surprises. I read a lot of the comments on spy kyoushitsu on r/anime and mal and there are definitely a lot of npcs hungry for blood. Most of them didn't even seem to watch the first episode and go on to bash it. But when you see comments for this show, people are already saying it will be better than vinland saga. I guess that is because Spy Kyoushitsu started slower than this one if we want to compare a little between these first episodes, Spy was slower paced meanwhile this one was directly to action. Not that it is neccesarily a problem for it to be slow paced, but people nowadays cannot wait of couple of episodes to see if the series gets good or if it doesn't. This show publicity isn't high right now so it will have to get viral. It is more or less the same as Management of Novice which isn't that much of a success So right now the high score and praise is somewhat empty since like 99.99999% of the people watching here aren't going to be buying the blu rays. |
icefirestone23 said: You're putting too much bias and personal feeling in your comment. You even went as far as trying to see people as NPCs to cope with the fact that people don't give as much love as you to your favorite show.Ionliosite2 said: Spy Kyoushitsu is more likely to be successful and last longer than this one in the end. Both series are by Fujimi Fantasia Bunko. Right now there is a large gap between twitter followers. 100K vs 20K. Also they were prepping and hyping Spy Kyoushitsu for almost a year, and trying to secure the cast. So classroom got better marketing, better studio, more cours, and already moving to the merchandise phase.I guess that is because Spy Kyoushitsu started slower than this one if we want to compare a little between these first episodes, Spy was slower paced meanwhile this one was directly to action. Not that it is neccesarily a problem for it to be slow paced, but people nowadays cannot wait of couple of episodes to see if the series gets good or if it doesn't. This show publicity isn't high right now so it will have to get viral. It is more or less the same as Management of Novice which isn't that much of a success So right now the high score and praise is somewhat empty since like 99.99999% of the people watching here aren't going to be buying the blu rays. Here is a tip: Popularity and Quality are different thing. Good show will often come with popularity but a popular show doesn't require the high quality.An average story, even if it is a kind of repetitive, done before many time, can become popular if they get presented in the right way that click with people. If Spy classroom is good AND interesting, people will spam 10 on it as well but since it's not.....maybe the presentation is not good enough to catch people interest? |
Marina2Jan 7, 2023 12:01 AM
Marina2 said: I watched the first episode of this show and I don't see what it has for it be ranked so highly. We have had this setting millions of times as well as the proposal thing. The plot already looks ridiculously predictable so how is that quality. The dialogue is cringy. How can you even a judge other show by watching like 5 minutes of it.icefirestone23 said: You're putting too much bias and personal feeling in your comment. You even went as far as trying to see people as NPCs to cope with the fact that people don't give as much love as you to your favorite show.Spy Kyoushitsu is more likely to be successful and last longer than this one in the end. Both series are by Fujimi Fantasia Bunko. Right now there is a large gap between twitter followers. 100K vs 20K. Also they were prepping and hyping Spy Kyoushitsu for almost a year, and trying to secure the cast. So classroom got better marketing, better studio, more cours, and already moving to the merchandise phase. This show publicity isn't high right now so it will have to get viral. It is more or less the same as Management of Novice which isn't that much of a success So right now the high score and praise is somewhat empty since like 99.99999% of the people watching here aren't going to be buying the blu rays. Here is a tip: Popularity and Quality are different thing. Good show will often come with popularity but a popular show doesn't require the high quality.An average story, even if it is a kind of repetitive, done before many time, can become popular if they get presented in the right way that click with people. If Spy classroom is good AND interesting, people will spam 10 on it as well but since it's not.....maybe the presentation is not good enough to catch people interest? I look at the comments of this show and people are cheering for yuri and how this show will be peak fiction, better than Breaking Bad and Game of Thrones. Sorry that ain't quality Its well known NPCs are everywhere on anime forums if all they complain about is fanservice, harems, now even shonens yet seem obssessed with yuri. Just like the g-witch show where majority of reviews are negative from the fans yet it has a high 7 rating. Funny thing is a lot of people like that don't even support the industry, otherwise the scene will be different. Mod edit: removed unnecessary political comment. |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:13 PM
VenomEmperor said: The Chisato type of MC tends to be an instant like for people that they can turn a blind eye to the inconsistent writing of Lycoris Recoil. While I liked the assassin MC of Shokei Shoujo, the Chisato type is guaranteed to be more well received. I don't know how much the random male being killed off hurt the score of Shokei Shoujo, but I think the replacement girl being lame and annoying didn't help. Subaru learns from all his mistakes and traumas every time he dies but this girl erases her memory whenever she dies and uses Return By Death so she has very little character development. She started deleting her memories after some while, she had to learn multiple things before even starting to thinking in deleting her memory, the anime didn't went too much into it since it skipped some things. Thing is, Subaru is repeating his things in the story while Akari already repeated multiple times everything before the start of what we're seeing that's why it looks like Subaru has more development. |
Ionliosite2Jan 8, 2023 8:32 AM
vitor03 said: Female MC? Female cast? YURI? it won't matter if the show is good or bad, people will stan for it calling it peak fiction or whatever. You could take the same characters and concepts, but make it male, and then suddenly its just another Isekai, so for Shokei Shoujo to have gotten sub 7 means it probably was nothing special. Maybe not bad, but not great. Not really, it is because the MC killed the usual isekai protagonist in the first 10 minutes into the show and many people got angry to that, and up to this day I still see people complaining about something as insignificant as that character dying. Mod edit: removed deleted quote |
ZedlinJan 25, 2023 6:19 PM
messerbangi said: because this one is actually good?????? And why this one is good and the other isn't? |
| The problem with Virgin Road is more to the plot and character, rather than the "yuri" aspect. Making a bad villain for the sake of justifying the MC to be a protagonist is never a great writing. Although overall, I do like the premise. |
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Erogamerss said: I mean just like Virgin Road, it's not a male MC wish fulfillment type of isekai, it's just a bait. This show attracts mostly otome lovers, that's why it's not badly received, yet.Well it not really a Otome bait since it spend half of ep introduce you to MC and what she know and what she want then introduce you back to the otome set up just to run away form it complete |
Ionliosite2 said: Good writing + likeable character + passable art.The last time I saw an isekai + yuri anime it got very harshly received by people, how come that didn't happen to this one? The girls love aspect doesn't have anything to do with it. Trends show that people will rate the genre just as highly as heterosexual romance anime when they're done well. Compared to other websites, MAL users (at least the ones rating the anime) tend to be ok with queers. |
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| How about the fact that yuri had next to nothing (outside your usual homophobes) to do with why that show was disliked? Pointless topic. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
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