Why do people dislike Himeno?

Nov 26, 2022 1:48 AM

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Because she's a bitch that tried to kill Denji and now wants to use Denji to save Aki.

Nov 26, 2022 1:48 AM

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hmm, you have a point

Nov 26, 2022 1:48 AM

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__booth_ said:
I've seen videos of people hating on Himeno and calling her a pedo, this wasn't an issue when the kissing scene was shown in the manga, no one complained.
I feel like the anime only watchers are ruining chainsaw man, all they do is complain about the anime instead of just sitting down and enjoying it.

You just said it your self
in today's date people hate on anything they can think rather than simply enjoying it

Nov 26, 2022 1:49 AM

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Makall said:
Because she's a bitch that tried to kill Denji and now wants to use Denji to save Aki.

if you really loved someone you'd do anything to save them, let's be realistic here.

Nov 26, 2022 1:51 AM

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__booth_ said:
I've seen videos of people hating on Himeno and calling her a pedo, this wasn't an issue when the kissing scene was shown in the manga, no one complained.
I feel like the anime only watchers are ruining chainsaw man, all they do is complain about the anime instead of just sitting down and enjoying it.

this isn't honestly anything new tbf anime appeals to a lot more people and you get more diverse audiences with some of them being legit braindead people the csm manga community was pretty chill still is to some extent

Nov 26, 2022 1:52 AM

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__booth_ said:
I've seen videos of people hating on Himeno and calling her a pedo, this wasn't an issue when the kissing scene was shown in the manga, no one complained.
I feel like the anime only watchers are ruining chainsaw man, all they do is complain about the anime instead of just sitting down and enjoying it.

I agree with you, the world is full of hypocrites

Nov 26, 2022 1:55 AM

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OGOID77 said:

__booth_ said:
I've seen videos of people hating on Himeno and calling her a pedo, this wasn't an issue when the kissing scene was shown in the manga, no one complained.
I feel like the anime only watchers are ruining chainsaw man, all they do is complain about the anime instead of just sitting down and enjoying it.

I agree with you, the world is full of hypocrites

I am confused as to how it's hypocrisy if manga readers didn't hate himeno and anime onlies do lol

Nov 26, 2022 1:57 AM

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Harsh_ahir said:

OGOID77 said:

I agree with you, the world is full of hypocrites

I am confused as to how it's hypocrisy if manga readers didn't hate himeno and anime onlies do lol

when did I mention hypocrisy

Nov 26, 2022 2:01 AM

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__booth_ said:

Harsh_ahir said:

I am confused as to how it's hypocrisy if manga readers didn't hate himeno and anime onlies do lol

when did I mention hypocrisy

I replied to the person who said that they agreed with you and said that the world is full of hypocrites

Nov 26, 2022 2:06 AM

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bladewade

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oh yeah my bad 👍

Nov 26, 2022 2:24 AM

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She’s using Denji for her own selfish reasons, but that doesn’t make me hate her.

I’m almost certain most western viewers didn’t like her actions with Denji because the age gap is so weird to us. But hey, what can you do? I won’t deny that it’s weird, but I’ll still be open minded about foreign country laws.

s1lvDrag0nNov 26, 2022 2:29 AM

Nov 26, 2022 2:27 AM

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s1lvDrag0n said:
She’s using Denji for her own selfish reasons, but that doesn’t make me hate her.

this is the best response I've seen

Nov 26, 2022 2:59 AM

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__booth_ said:

Makall said:
Because she's a bitch that tried to kill Denji and now wants to use Denji to save Aki.

if you really loved someone you'd do anything to save them, let's be realistic here.

by that logic I can also say that eren is doing nothing wrong by killing millions of people to save his loved ones right.

Nov 26, 2022 2:59 AM

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OGOID77 said:

__booth_ said:
I've seen videos of people hating on Himeno and calling her a pedo, this wasn't an issue when the kissing scene was shown in the manga, no one complained.
I feel like the anime only watchers are ruining chainsaw man, all they do is complain about the anime instead of just sitting down and enjoying it.

I agree with you, the world is full of hypocrites

mf how is that even hypocrisy when they haven't read the manga

People die if they are killed.

- A wise man

Nov 26, 2022 3:01 AM

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Sujal234 said:

__booth_ said:

if you really loved someone you'd do anything to save them, let's be realistic here.

by that logic I can also say that eren is doing nothing wrong by killing millions of people to save his loved ones right.

sacrificing one person to save one life is a lot different than sacrificing millions, let's be logical here.
himenos situation is a lot different than erens so I don't understand the correlation here

Nov 26, 2022 3:05 AM

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but you said to be realistic here right.
what I am trying to say is whatever she intents she is doing the wrong way.
you think that killing innocent people to save your loved ones is ok until the number of innocent people is more than the number of people you are trying to save.

Nov 26, 2022 3:12 AM

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__booth_ said:

Sujal234 said:

by that logic I can also say that eren is doing nothing wrong by killing millions of people to save his loved ones right.

sacrificing one person to save one life is a lot different than sacrificing millions, let's be logical here.
himenos situation is a lot different than erens so I don't understand the correlation here

she agreed to kill denji to save aki , even though it wasn't denjis fault at all that they are trapped. An obviously selfish act.
she then tried to seduce him even though he is a minor. (don't tell me that she was drunk and all.
if it was the other way around then it would have been a big deal)
I mean she really is a bitch.
at what garuentee you are saying that she would not do that again and sacrifice multiple people's to save aki.

it means you think killing an innocent person to save the loved one is ok Until the number of innocent people are less than the number of people you are saving

Nov 26, 2022 3:13 AM

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It's actually Illegal in all countries to dislike Himeno. The FBI are already on their way.

Nov 26, 2022 3:15 AM

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Sujal234 said:

__booth_ said:

sacrificing one person to save one life is a lot different than sacrificing millions, let's be logical here.
himenos situation is a lot different than erens so I don't understand the correlation here

she agreed to kill denji to save aki , even though it wasn't denjis fault at all that they are trapped. An obviously selfish act.
she then tried to seduce him even though he is a minor. (don't tell me that she was drunk and all.
if it was the other way around then it would have been a big deal)
I mean she really is a bitch.
at what garuentee you are saying that she would not do that again and sacrifice multiple people's to save aki.

it means you think killing an innocent person to save the loved one is ok Until the number of innocent people are less than the number of people you are saving

you could name like 3 other women that tried to seduce denji even tho he's a minor.
so therefore using that logic every female character in chainsaw man is a bitch then.
including power cause she sacrificed him to save a cat.

Nov 26, 2022 3:20 AM

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s1lvDrag0n said:
She’s using Denji for her own selfish reasons, but that doesn’t make me hate her.

I’m almost certain most western viewers didn’t like her actions with Denji because the age gap is so weird to us. But hey, what can you do? I won’t deny that it’s weird, but I’ll still be open minded about foreign country laws.

I mean it's ok only when the number of people you are sacrificing to save your loved ones is less than the number of people you are trying to save.
example= Eren Yeager (I hope you know him)

himeno=
he could easily sacrifice denji to save aki even though denji had nothing to do with the trap.
but it's ok. it's not a big deal.
himeno is a human.
Eren=
also sacrifices people to save his people and loved ones but it's not ok because of the number difference.
eren is a human too.

that's what people now a days think.
they don't care about peoples death unless it was a huge no. of deaths or if it was their loved ones.

Nov 26, 2022 3:27 AM

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__booth_ said:

Sujal234 said:

she agreed to kill denji to save aki , even though it wasn't denjis fault at all that they are trapped. An obviously selfish act.
she then tried to seduce him even though he is a minor. (don't tell me that she was drunk and all.
if it was the other way around then it would have been a big deal)
I mean she really is a bitch.
at what garuentee you are saying that she would not do that again and sacrifice multiple people's to save aki.

it means you think killing an innocent person to save the loved one is ok Until the number of innocent people are less than the number of people you are saving

you could name like 3 other women that tried to seduce denji even tho he's a minor.
so therefore using that logic every female character in chainsaw man is a bitch then.
including power cause she sacrificed him to save a cat.

of course they all are bitchs.
I don't know if you read the manga or not because I don't want to give you spoilers.
But power WAS a bitch and it's the blood devil I am talking about.
but later her character really develops but there is still no garuentee that she will not harm humans that are unknown to her.

makima is probably the biggest BITCH in the series
seducing denji was just a trap to use him
I think that the word bitch was made for her.

if you read the manga you would have known.
but her character writing is good though.

Nov 26, 2022 3:30 AM

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Sujal234 said:

__booth_ said:

you could name like 3 other women that tried to seduce denji even tho he's a minor.
so therefore using that logic every female character in chainsaw man is a bitch then.
including power cause she sacrificed him to save a cat.

of course they all are bitchs.
I don't know if you read the manga or not because I don't want to give you spoilers.
But power WAS a bitch and it's the blood devil I am talking about.
but later her character really develops but there is still no garuentee that she will not harm humans that are unknown to her.

makima is probably the biggest BITCH in the series
seducing denji was just a trap to use him
I think that the word bitch was made for her.

if you read the manga you would have known.
but her character writing is good though.

"I don't want to give you spoilers" then proceeds to write "WAS"

Nov 26, 2022 3:32 AM

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It’s bc “she’s a groomer” which to me IDGAF she can do anything to me😩

Nov 26, 2022 3:34 AM

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She can't control her drinking.
Makima can control it easily. It's almost inhumane.

Nov 26, 2022 3:36 AM

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Sujal234 said:

__booth_ said:

if you really loved someone you'd do anything to save them, let's be realistic here.

by that logic I can also say that eren is doing nothing wrong by killing millions of people to save his loved ones right.

bro wtf, they're sacrificing denji to save 5 lives and eren is sacrificing 70% of humanity just for 4-5 friends how is that logical???

Nov 26, 2022 3:38 AM

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Harsh_ahir said:

Sujal234 said:

of course they all are bitchs.
I don't know if you read the manga or not because I don't want to give you spoilers.
But power WAS a bitch and it's the blood devil I am talking about.
but later her character really develops but there is still no garuentee that she will not harm humans that are unknown to her.

makima is probably the biggest BITCH in the series
seducing denji was just a trap to use him
I think that the word bitch was made for her.

if you read the manga you would have known.
but her character writing is good though.

"I don't want to give you spoilers" then proceeds to write "WAS"

WAS means she was a bitch at the beginning but her character really changes since denji saved her.
that was my intention and now you mentioned it,
so yeah it has a sort of double meaning in it.

Nov 26, 2022 3:43 AM

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Sujal234 said:

s1lvDrag0n said:
She’s using Denji for her own selfish reasons, but that doesn’t make me hate her.

I’m almost certain most western viewers didn’t like her actions with Denji because the age gap is so weird to us. But hey, what can you do? I won’t deny that it’s weird, but I’ll still be open minded about foreign country laws.

I mean it's ok only when the number of people you are sacrificing to save your loved ones is less than the number of people you are trying to save.
example= Eren Yeager (I hope you know him)

himeno=
he could easily sacrifice denji to save aki even though denji had nothing to do with the trap.
but it's ok. it's not a big deal.
himeno is a human.
Eren=
also sacrifices people to save his people and loved ones but it's not ok because of the number difference.
eren is a human too.

that's what people now a days think.
they don't care about peoples death unless it was a huge no. of deaths or if it was their loved ones.

I would say it comes down to the narrative the author is trying to say.

AOT and Chainsaw Man contrast their ethical concerns in the value of individuals vs. the value of the majority.

Eren’s decision was perceived as unethical in the eyes of Isayama, as he intends to take the story elsewhere.

While Tatsuki, Chainsaw Man’s Mangaka, intends to take the approach where his characters are grounded in reality; having people like Himeno make selfish decisions, and ultimately make people suffer from it.

Kobeni is a prime example as well, her fear in episode 6 led to Aki being stabbed. In addition, her fear made the Eternity Devil stronger.

One narrative pulls you into one single choice, perceived as a mistake. And the other pulls you into a chaotic world where everyone makes mistakes.

Sorry about the long thread, but I’m sure you can tell I love conversations questioning a creator’s intent. Please correct me in any of this or make a counterclaim; I’d appreciate any perspective.

s1lvDrag0nNov 26, 2022 4:02 AM

Nov 26, 2022 3:44 AM

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El_Professor07 said:

Sujal234 said:

by that logic I can also say that eren is doing nothing wrong by killing millions of people to save his loved ones right.

bro wtf, they're sacrificing denji to save 5 lives and eren is sacrificing 70% of humanity just for 4-5 friends how is that logical???

yeah you are right.
life has value only when the number of lives is more than the number of people you are trying to save.

"killing one innocent to save a few people"
oh that's ok I don't mind

"killing millions of people in which most of them hate your race and wish you to die, in order to save your loved ones including 100000+ people"
OMG that's pure evil.

life has only meaning if it's in large quantity nowadays.

Nov 26, 2022 3:46 AM

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s1lvDrag0n said:

Sujal234 said:

I mean it's ok only when the number of people you are sacrificing to save your loved ones is less than the number of people you are trying to save.
example= Eren Yeager (I hope you know him)

himeno=
he could easily sacrifice denji to save aki even though denji had nothing to do with the trap.
but it's ok. it's not a big deal.
himeno is a human.
Eren=
also sacrifices people to save his people and loved ones but it's not ok because of the number difference.
eren is a human too.

that's what people now a days think.
they don't care about peoples death unless it was a huge no. of deaths or if it was their loved ones.

I would say it comes down to the narrative the author is trying to say.

AOT and Chainsaw Man contrast their ethical concerns in the value of individuals vs. the value of the majority.

Eren’s decision was perceived as unethical in the eyes of Isayama, as he intends to take the story elsewhere.

I think isayama is trying to say that erens intentions were good(to save his people and loved ones) but the way he did it was wrong(to kill everyone else)
it's that simple for me.

Nov 26, 2022 3:49 AM

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Sujal234 said:

El_Professor07 said:

bro wtf, they're sacrificing denji to save 5 lives and eren is sacrificing 70% of humanity just for 4-5 friends how is that logical???

yeah you are right.
life has value only when the number of lives is more than the number of people you are trying to save.

"killing one innocent to save a few people"
oh that's ok I don't mind

"killing millions of people in which most of them hate your race and wish you to die, in order to save your loved ones including 100000+ people"
OMG that's pure evil.

life has only meaning if it's in large quantity nowadays.

wtf are you talking dude, you're taking fictions seriously, besides i didn't said what erens doing is "Evil" I didn't even mentioned this word what i was talking is logic. Killing millions of people just for few isn't logical at all... but it's just fiction we don't have to take it seriously....

Nov 26, 2022 3:51 AM

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El_Professor07 said:

Sujal234 said:

yeah you are right.
life has value only when the number of lives is more than the number of people you are trying to save.

"killing one innocent to save a few people"
oh that's ok I don't mind

"killing millions of people in which most of them hate your race and wish you to die, in order to save your loved ones including 100000+ people"
OMG that's pure evil.

life has only meaning if it's in large quantity nowadays.

wtf are you talking dude, you're taking fictions seriously, besides i didn't said what erens doing is "Evil" I didn't even mentioned this word what i was talking is logic. Killing millions of people just for few isn't logical at all... but it's just fiction we don't have to take it seriously....

I think you should stop replying to the dude, idek what he's on about and idk what eren has to do with chainsaw man

Nov 26, 2022 3:52 AM

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El_Professor07 said:

Sujal234 said:

yeah you are right.
life has value only when the number of lives is more than the number of people you are trying to save.

"killing one innocent to save a few people"
oh that's ok I don't mind

"killing millions of people in which most of them hate your race and wish you to die, in order to save your loved ones including 100000+ people"
OMG that's pure evil.

life has only meaning if it's in large quantity nowadays.

wtf are you talking dude, you're taking fictions seriously, besides i didn't said what erens doing is "Evil" I didn't even mentioned this word what i was talking is logic. Killing millions of people just for few isn't logical at all... but it's just fiction we don't have to take it seriously....

I am not talking about you I am talking about the people who justifies "this thing is evil and that thing not."
I know killing millions is really wrong but killing a single innocent person is not ok too.
even though it saves millions of other people.

Nov 26, 2022 3:53 AM

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__booth_ said:

El_Professor07 said:

wtf are you talking dude, you're taking fictions seriously, besides i didn't said what erens doing is "Evil" I didn't even mentioned this word what i was talking is logic. Killing millions of people just for few isn't logical at all... but it's just fiction we don't have to take it seriously....

I think you should stop replying to the dude, idek what he's on about and idk what eren has to do with chainsaw man

it's like his first time watching a series like this, So he's kinda got attached to this series....

Nov 26, 2022 3:55 AM

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El_Professor07 said:

Sujal234 said:

yeah you are right.
life has value only when the number of lives is more than the number of people you are trying to save.

"killing one innocent to save a few people"
oh that's ok I don't mind

"killing millions of people in which most of them hate your race and wish you to die, in order to save your loved ones including 100000+ people"
OMG that's pure evil.

life has only meaning if it's in large quantity nowadays.

wtf are you talking dude, you're taking fictions seriously, besides i didn't said what erens doing is "Evil" I didn't even mentioned this word what i was talking is logic. Killing millions of people just for few isn't logical at all... but it's just fiction we don't have to take it seriously....

also these fictional stories are the ones which remove your true perspective over other characters or real life people who are different from you.

here there are SO MANY people supporting rumbling and ALSO SOME MANY are against it.

That's just your perspective, the way you look towards human society.

Nov 26, 2022 4:15 AM

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I love this anime plus I'm an anime only I don't hate her

Nov 26, 2022 4:33 AM

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people actually were hating her before the adaptation i even remember some videos of it i saw from summer 2021, just because u didnt see it doesnt mean anything

Nov 26, 2022 6:25 AM

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I think it’s because people can’t separate their enjoyment of a character from their moral compass — that is to say, every character that poses as a protagonist but doesn’t align with their morals is “bad”.

Which is unfortunate honestly because I think all media, Western or otherwise, could do with some more unapologetically unhinged characters. Not just “murderous for tragic and/or sadistic reasons”, but just kinda out there, doing impulsive things and ruining people’s lives and not having to work overtime to convince us they’re human.

Nov 26, 2022 6:43 AM

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For everyone that hates any of the characters, because they were “using” denji,

Y’all some little bitches.

Nov 26, 2022 9:39 AM

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s1lvDrag0n said:
She’s using Denji for her own selfish reasons, but that doesn’t make me hate her.

I’m almost certain most western viewers didn’t like her actions with Denji because the age gap is so weird to us. But hey, what can you do? I won’t deny that it’s weird, but I’ll still be open minded about foreign country laws.

This is a great response. All we have to be is open minded about it. It’s not like we can change anything by complaining 🤷🏽‍♀️

Nov 26, 2022 9:40 AM

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err maybe the haters are from USA where age of consent is 18? because the average age of consent worldwide is around 14-16 years old anyway

Nov 26, 2022 10:51 AM

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__booth_ said:

Makall said:
Because she's a bitch that tried to kill Denji and now wants to use Denji to save Aki.

if you really loved someone you'd do anything to save them, let's be realistic here.

Sacrifice some random people who has nothing to do with me just to save the one I love is a pretty cruel thing to do tough

"𝐼 𝑙𝑜𝑣𝑒 𝑎𝑛𝑑 𝑤𝑎𝑛𝑡 𝑡𝑜 𝑢𝑛𝑑𝑒𝑟𝑠𝑡𝑎𝑛𝑑 ℎ𝑖𝑚 𝑚𝑜𝑟𝑒 𝑡ℎ𝑎𝑛 𝑎𝑛𝑦𝑜𝑛𝑒 𝑒𝑙𝑠𝑒..."

Nov 26, 2022 12:12 PM

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Vayze said:

__booth_ said:

if you really loved someone you'd do anything to save them, let's be realistic here.

Sacrifice some random people who has nothing to do with me just to save the one I love is a pretty cruel thing to do tough

it is pretty cruel I agree, but think about this,would you sacrifice one strangers life in order to save your mother's life?
it is cruel but you have to understand where she's coming from.

Nov 26, 2022 1:01 PM

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It's because of titty envy.

Nov 26, 2022 2:46 PM

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El_Professor07 said:

Sujal234 said:

by that logic I can also say that eren is doing nothing wrong by killing millions of people to save his loved ones right.

bro wtf, they're sacrificing denji to save 5 lives and eren is sacrificing 70% of humanity just for 4-5 friends how is that logical???

An entire race of people, the great Eldian race, is the same thing as 5 friends? How did this cowardly, & illogical, „just let your entire people be genocided because genociding others is bad“ become the only acceptable opinion on here? The rest of the world attempting to kill off all Eldians is genocide, too! &, there are a lot of us cheering for Eren & his titan army. We just went quiet rather than be attacked by the same boring insults by the obedient groupthink bully brigade of virtue-signalers.

Nov 26, 2022 4:39 PM

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__booth_ said:
I've seen videos of people hating on Himeno and calling her a pedo, this wasn't an issue when the kissing scene was shown in the manga, no one complained.
I feel like the anime only watchers are ruining chainsaw man, all they do is complain about the anime instead of just sitting down and enjoying it.

I noticed that you used the words "Why people dislike Himeno." in this poll and "Why is Makima disliked." in the other poll....implying that it's people's fault for disliking Himeno while being Makima's fault for being disliked...Funny because it's true!!
Most people who dislike Himeno's character are very superficial and shallow in their judgement while Makima makes herself being disliked because of her actions. (>_<)

There you have it...some people dislike her because she was selfish for a moment (ignoring the reason), for taking Denji at her home(ignoring the context) and for the kiss scene?.....A can't even think at any other reason...She is a great character!!

Nov 26, 2022 4:41 PM

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Himeno is a manipulative person that fell in love with a coworker. TFW every character from Chainsaw Man is insufferable…

Nov 26, 2022 4:58 PM

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She has used denji because that she want to make sure aki is safe ..

Nov 27, 2022 12:15 AM

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s1lvDrag0n said:
She’s using Denji for her own selfish reasons, but that doesn’t make me hate her.

I’m almost certain most western viewers didn’t like her actions with Denji because the age gap is so weird to us. But hey, what can you do? I won’t deny that it’s weird, but I’ll still be open minded about foreign country laws.

People always forget that the west is not the center of attention and the world should follow them

Nov 27, 2022 12:17 AM

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Treyv0n said:
It’s bc “she’s a groomer” which to me IDGAF she can do anything to me😩

Bros in the trenches💀 but honestly same

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