I cut all anime gag faces that would be impossible in real life. I don't want to make so-called anime. I wanted to create an expression that does not rely on the fixed concepts of subcultures such as Akiba-kei and moe. I heard Fujimoto sensei loves movies, so I was convinced that if I could incorporate the essence of something realistic or cinematic, it would be good for the work. It's not my personal ego. I think that manga-like things should be enjoyed in manga, and I want to challenge things that can only be done with video/animation. I wanted to be actively involved as part of the project to find out what kind of images would create a movement. The timing of the soundtrack is close to live-action film, and we are not aiming for an anime-like culture. It's not simple, like "This kind of music should be played in this scene'" , but it's a work that challenges new things, so please accept it with an open mind. source: Nikkei Entertainment magazine  No wonder the anime feels awfully "off" The director himself hates anime |
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| It's all subjective. Personally, I like the 'cinematic' approach. |
| Imagine normies saying: "Peaky Blinders is mid and overhyped. Just another typical crime drama show. Breaking Bad is much better lol.". |
 When I was in junior high school, "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" was broadcast late at night, and anime boomed. However, there is a certain "type" of TV anime. The so-called Akiba-kei, moe, and other fixed concepts in subcultures, such as girls having green or pink hair, are examples of this. However, animation itself is not an expressive technique that can only be achieved by relying on such things. I always wanted to make something that could be seen by adults, something that would be powerful enough to withstand the viewpoint of appreciation of the work. When it came time to make an animated version of "Chainsaw Man," I looked for links to what I wanted to do, and since I myself love movies and Mr. Fujimoto also loves movies, I thought it would be interesting to incorporate the essence of the realistic and cinematic. Rather than a personal selfishness, I was convinced that this would benefit the work. massive red flag. |
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GangsterCat said: When I was in junior high school, "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" was broadcast late at night, and anime boomed. However, there is a certain "type" of TV anime. The so-called Akiba-kei, moe, and other fixed concepts in subcultures, such as girls having green or pink hair, are examples of this. However, animation itself is not an expressive technique that can only be achieved by relying on such things. I always wanted to make something that could be seen by adults, something that would be powerful enough to withstand the viewpoint of appreciation of the work. When it came time to make an animated version of "Chainsaw Man," I looked for links to what I wanted to do, and since I myself love movies and Mr. Fujimoto also loves movies, I thought it would be interesting to incorporate the essence of the realistic and cinematic. Rather than a personal selfishness, I was convinced that this would benefit the work. massive red flag. Massive W for me personally. Not a fan of moe culture (and other certain sub cultures) in anime, so I really get what this man is saying. Chainsaw Man is one of the few manga where adapting it with a more cinematic flair could work perfectly. |
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| I am sensing a man with a vision in these statements. He wants to create a cinematic anime and Chainsaw Man is the perfect series for this. The manga's cinematic panelling will work wonders for this work. I think a director with a distinct vision is better than a director who just wants to churn out a generic product for a pay check with no ideas of his own. I am liking what he has managed to do in the first three episodes. Now I am much more curious to see how he will adapt the rest of the series as well. |
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| Lol, manga readers will not like his statement. |
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gromzadira said: you fell for marketing remarkand always remember that fujimoto is heavily involved in production of the show, so he likes it too. if fujimoto think that this is how chainsaw man animation should look like,then let it be |
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| Kudos to the director. I can respect his opinion. Making the anime in a realistic and cinematic approach would fit well for this type of show. Considering that the manga is fast pace and action packed. But I'm also worried that this approach will lose some of the charm and quirks that the manga had. |
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| idk why y'all are so pissed, like cinematic anime is an awesome viewing experience, plus I don't think those kind of tropes would really fit well with CSM |
| You all prefer director copy manga panel like AOT final or doing cinematic movie feeling? So far i enjoy the anime same like manga |
You take a negative approach to every novelty, every non-classical experience in anime. How does a cinematic approach mean they hate anime? |
| A lot of people are obsessed with realistic, mature and dark. It's was a not really a new thing especially among anime industry personal, it's been like that since olden times. Though they didn't allow it as much in anime back then. I have seen similar kind things said by different directors or scriptwriter but using different wording. |
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|NilufErz said: You take a negative approach to every novelty, every non-classical experience in anime. How does a cinematic approach mean they hate anime? Mal is basically Twitter for fatherless weebs. Don’t expect to find any logic especially in chainsaw man forums |
| Is this real? This seems too stupid to be real. If you consider this a sensible decision based on that weird reasoning then you don't get the stupidity of it GangsterCat said: When I was in junior high school, "The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya" was broadcast late at night, and anime boomed. However, there is a certain "type" of TV anime. The so-called Akiba-kei, moe, and other fixed concepts in subcultures, such as girls having green or pink hair, are examples of this. However, animation itself is not an expressive technique that can only be achieved by relying on such things. I always wanted to make something that could be seen by adults, something that would be powerful enough to withstand the viewpoint of appreciation of the work. When it came time to make an animated version of "Chainsaw Man," I looked for links to what I wanted to do, and since I myself love movies and Mr. Fujimoto also loves movies, I thought it would be interesting to incorporate the essence of the realistic and cinematic. Rather than a personal selfishness, I was convinced that this would benefit the work. massive red flag. I lost a half of my brain power reading that, where is the actual link? |
Eliahpari said: The timing of the soundtrack is close to live-action film, and we are not aiming for an anime-like culture. It's not simple, like "This kind of music should be played in this scene'" , but it's a work that challenges new things, so please accept it with an open mind. That's probably the most pretentious shit I have ever heard regarding anime This is so stupid and people here are trying to defend this garbage perspective lmaooo |
Gween_Gween said: This is so stupid and people here are trying to defend this garbage perspective lmaooo Anime is good. I enjoy the anime. So you want what people do? Drop this anime because it has cinematic experience? |
Helenafin said: Yeah, this approach the director went with took all the substance away from the original work. Everything feels so flat. I agree. Director should copy 1 by 1 panel in the manga or just copy the manga panel and paste it to anime. |
Metamarphosis said: Gween_Gween said: This is so stupid and people here are trying to defend this garbage perspective lmaooo Anime is good. I enjoy the anime. So you want what people do? Drop this anime because it has cinematic experience? No, I say that the reasoning is stupid, no wonder the comedy and dialogues feel like shit and the only good parts are the action scenes. I have my own set of ideas about what animation can be or not, but this guy is an expert, so I guess I'm probably short-sighted compared to him. However, this shit is bland. Really bland. Because imitating live-action through animation is the same as imitating animation through live-action, a shitty transfer of the limitation of both worlds. Also, if you read this shit: ">However, there is a certain "type" of TV anime. The so-called Akiba-kei, moe, and other fixed concepts in subcultures, such as girls having green or pink hair, are examples of this. However, animation itself is not an expressive technique that can only be achieved by relying on such things. I always wanted to make something that could be seen by adults," And don't die from cringing, then I don't know what to tell you. |
| How dare he try something new |
NilufErz said: You take a negative approach to every novelty, every non-classical experience in anime. How does a cinematic approach mean they hate anime? THANK YOU! Well said. |
GangsterCat said: I cut all anime gag faces that would be impossible in real life. I don't want to make so-called anime. I wanted to create an expression that does not rely on the fixed concepts of subcultures such as Akiba-kei and moe. I heard Fujimoto sensei loves movies, so I was convinced that if I could incorporate the essence of something realistic or cinematic, it would be good for the work. It's not my personal ego. I think that manga-like things should be enjoyed in manga, and I want to challenge things that can only be done with video/animation. I wanted to be actively involved as part of the project to find out what kind of images would create a movement. The timing of the soundtrack is close to live-action film, and we are not aiming for an anime-like culture. It's not simple, like "This kind of music should be played in this scene'" , but it's a work that challenges new things, so please accept it with an open mind. source: Nikkei Entertainment magazine No wonder the anime feels awfully "off" The director himself hates anime “The director himself hates anime” you completely missed the point of what he’s trying to say |
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| I am still confused what actually has changed even in the comedic scenes people are sperging about to me I don't feel it's that different from the manga? Just seems more like manga readers freaking out by minor details on an adaption (I remember VS and that actually had some validity). Regardless I think he is doing a good job and I guess it's fine to say anime shouldn't be oriented around otaku culture (I mean even if he makes it a bit more serious CSM hardly isn't incredibly otaku based). It's not like CSM really had like over the top comedic faces that are impossible IRL that I remember. It's not like it has FMA cut away gags in it. That said yeah this opinion does seem kinda insecure? There isn't anything wrong with saying anime should develop beyond the otaku scene but saying hey we need to be like live action entertainment kinda just reminds of people who think the games need to be cinematic to be "art". To be honest it does sound kinda try hard because honestly I am not noticing anything different from your typical battle shonen production. I guess he fits in with all the insane fanboys though. |
BilboBaggins365Oct 28, 2022 1:39 PM
| This fandom is the worst thing in existence. someone trying something new, you get shit on... Keep things 1:1, you get shit on. What does the person even do at the end of the day? Seems like nowadays it's becoming a norm where the directors don't even have the freedom to approach the series however they like, thanks to some of yall. That's why I still think that the 2000s was the golden era for adaptations, originals, and movies that used to come out in that time period because directors were doing whatever the fuck they liked to do, Now it comes down to shit like this. Being creative and doing something out of the ordinary and not completely a manga copy is considered a 'failed adaptation'. An adaptation is meant to be conveyed by the director's perspective and how he sees the source material. It doesn't need to be the exact same shit from the manga. If you prefer manga, then why are you even bothering with the adaptation? Stick to your manga, there's nothing wrong with that. But, spewing shit like, "no wonder this feels off, the director hates the anime" must be the most stupid shit I've ever heard. If he doesn't like your typical anime style, that doesn't make him an 'anime hater'. He just wants to convey it in his own style. Not everything needs to be to your liking. |
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| Amazin how you have all that talent yet a single person in the right position can drag it down, massively. |
Pre_Yum said: This fandom is the worst thing in existence. someone trying something new, you get shit on... Keep things 1:1, you get shit on. What does the person even do at the end of the day? Seems like nowadays it's becoming a norm where the directors don't even have the freedom to approach the series however they like, thanks to some of yall. That's why I still think that the 2000s was the golden era for adaptations, originals, and movies that used to come out in that time period because directors were doing whatever the fuck they liked to do, Now it comes down to shit like this. Being creative and doing something out of the ordinary and not completely a manga copy is considered a 'failed adaptation'. An adaptation is meant to be conveyed by the director's perspective and how he sees the source material. It doesn't need to be the exact same shit from the manga. If you prefer manga, then why are you even bothering with the adaptation? Stick to your manga, there's nothing wrong with that. But, spewing shit like, "no wonder this feels off, the director hates the anime" must be the most stupid shit I've ever heard. If he doesn't like your typical anime style, that doesn't make him an 'anime hater'. He just wants to convey it in his own style. Not everything needs to be to your liking. They are going to complain for every minor thing possible anyway. Like the 10sec CGI scene tor example. It was barely noticeable and was actually good but they started hating on it and made a fuck ton of threads regarding the CGI. Then there were the VA haters.. In short, no matter what Mappa and their team will do, these shits will complain about anything. People can't enjoy nice things nowadays it seems. |
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| Based director. Holy shit. (2) The man's trying out a different approach and trying to make it stand out even direction wise from the majority of other seasonals that immerse in the moe moe kyun shit. This made me appreciate the work even more lol. You go King. |
| As a huge fan of the manga I have also noticed that the anime seems much more serious and gloomy in comparison but that's absolutely no issue for me at all to be honest. CSM is known to be one hell of an acid trip but that's not solely because of the humor and the wackyness but also because how out there some aspects of the story and the world are. In my opinion the best parts about the series were always its unique characters, the world itself and the sheer amount of creativity Fujimoto has brought to it through devil designs, panelling etc and all of those aspects are still in the anime so we are absolutely fine. I can't believe how nitpicky this fanbase has become (tho I reckon it's the haters blowing everything out of proportion). |
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