Shikimori's Not Just a Cutie
| Honestly thought this show was going to get high ratings ngl. I read the manga beforehand and it was great though I had to drop it not because of izumi but because I wish this was yuri instead and shikimori is way too hot and cool and I couldn't bear to see anymore of her. I understand the points you all have shared though he can appear pretty helpless and constantly needs to be rescued and from what I recalled in the manga the first 20 short pages chapters is about her rescuing izumi and some backstory of how their relationship came about which is quite cute. I guess this story(at least for the first half) focus is about the cool and badass female lead and... perhaps some dig it since it's a pretty adorable and wholesome trope. May need to give it some time before their relationship shines more(in terms of backstory rather than plain old badass girl rescue helpless guy situation) DankWeeb said: Welp, this is the last time i'll ever post my opinion on myanimelist forum LOL don't be at least it brought up what more people feel about the anime (character). Some people need info like this to decide whether this is worth watching... even if some points are pretty antagonising |
kobai_ringsMay 16, 2022 6:58 AM
| My problem with Izumi is he seem more like Side Character rather being Main Character. |
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| Now we know what the damsel in distress storyline feels like when genderflipped. |
thehornedrat said: So, you're up to date with the manga, and yet you don't seem to understand how to read it, which is baffling to me. This is not a realistic series, their relationship is purely cute/wholesome on an elementary school level, and so far there's no sign of that changing. What you apparently failed to take away from that chapter is that Shikimori is just as immature, the joke is that she completely forgets her earlier woes after getting in a good tease on Izumi, and making him blush. Read through the manga, by chapter 145, or even 144, after they walked past a physically intimate couple, and Shikimori yearned for some more physical touch from him (not just holding hands ffs); as she reached out to touch his hand, he withdraws and goes home. W. T. F. There really is some weird cognitive bias towards Izumi in the manga, but in reality, the manga really, really isnt just any better. Those panels are so painful to read, abandoned like that, then she ruminates it, to then ventilate to Nekozaki and Hachimitsu. That's also part of the joke when they panic after seeing a couple that is in love and demonstrating affection, because these two act like sex doesn't exist. |
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kfsilver89 said: DankWeeb said: I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes. Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character. Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation? The whole toxic masculinity thing is hardly ever explored in anime. Women in popular animes always showed some form of dominance in their relationship even when the man is a bad ass. I said this before and I say it again, the problem with this series is the lack of clarification of their targeted demographic. Because I feel the large majority that watch this series will feel more comfortable if Izumi was a woman. There I said it, Izumi should be a girl and this should be a Yuri series. No, yuri just makes things worse. Even as a guy I’d rather it be 2 boys than girls. Or, you know, the best option where Izumi wasn’t as annoyingly useless as he is |
Caraculiambro said: Now we know what the damsel in distress storyline feels like when genderflipped. Like SAO s1 part 2 if Kirito was captured instead? |
gintokisbicep said: who says i even like it. what im saying is literally facts, im not giving any opinion at all. all im saying is the description of the show lmao I don't know what you're talking about cuz the description reads:- "Shikimori seems like the perfect girlfriend: cute, fun to be around, sweet when she wants to be... but she has a cool dark side that comes out under the right circumstances. And her boyfriend Izumi loves to be around when that happens!" This never mentions and doesn't even come close to implying:- "a guy with bad luck and his badass gf who saves him" like you said |
cybergamer_May 18, 2022 7:09 AM
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thehornedrat said: After finding out what a bolo tie is, looks like another the message trait added there by the PC scum that is NBCUniversal, to exemplify her masculinity. Lol, to think I thought its supposed to look feminine. Anyway, thus with myself revealing to be not from America...('wtf is that necklace?' lol)....I'm super keen on acquiring a similar orange jade one myself as jewelry. What in the actual fuck are you talking about? |
| I'm only passing by here, so feel free to ignore me as I pose a vital aspect in storytelling... "Is it possible to write a character that feels human?" It's not necessarily an order of dominance between characters' dynamics regardless of their genders and whatnot, but rather a general feeling that a certain character is a human being. Or in other word, "relatable". Izumi is just pathetic. Not Kazuya level of pathetic, but I couldn't bother with his existence at all, whether as a fictional character or a human. |
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| one the main problems I have with Izumi is not entirely based on how unmasculine he is. The main issue I have with the anime is the fact that he's just there to show off shikimori, I know that's the whole premise of the show but it feels like they're completely overlooking izumi as a character and the fact that the only remarkable thing about him is his bad luck but even that trait gets overused doesn't make him any better as a character. I can only hope he gets some sort of development and not every episode be a constant show of the cute and cool shikimori. I believe in izumi supremacy more than shokimori lol |
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Binex13 said: You're supposed to compliment that he's a good cook, not that he can cut a vegetable without losing a finger, the whole luck stuff is not supposed to be a serious part of his character, expect in moments where it concerns his actual character development, but I can understand being confused by the anime, because they run the back luck stuff into the fucking ground. He also comes across more unlikable in general in the anime, between the VA and poor directing.When one of the more positive aspects of izumi's character is that he's able to cut vegetables without hurting himself (due to his bad luck) it's hard to not understand why he's unlikable. He's a protagonist, he's half the relationship he should be one of the reasons why we cheer on this couple and want to watch them. But when something so banal is a reason why people compliment his personality it's a chore to get through his screen time. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Ice-Cube said: You're supposed to view Izumi on the same level of cuteness as Shikimori, at least that's crystal clear in the manga, not so much in the anime.one the main problems I have with Izumi is not entirely based on how unmasculine he is. The main issue I have with the anime is the fact that he's just there to show off shikimori, I know that's the whole premise of the show but it feels like they're completely overlooking izumi as a character and the fact that the only remarkable thing about him is his bad luck but even that trait gets overused doesn't make him any better as a character. I can only hope he gets some sort of development and not every episode be a constant show of the cute and cool shikimori. I believe in izumi supremacy more than shokimori lol |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
LostSpectre said: zcv45 said: I disagree that a reverse damsel trope isn't any better, there's a specific reason why it's viewed as a tired cliché for the woman to need saving by a strong man, it's an entirely different situation if the man needs saving by a strong woman, this is reversing the very ideas that make the original trope old fashioned to begin with. You can't ignore that this puts a decidedly progressive spin on the trope, it's a bad thing if it's just making fun of the man, but that's not how it's handled in the manga, while the anime may be less clear about that.Well idk about you, but I don't think I'm being toxic despite agreeing with you. I like the main characters in general to be USEFUL and RELEVANT. I hate when the male MC does all the work and female lead is just a damsel in distress. Most of my favorite female leads or once favorites were because they contributed to the story in some way. Shikimori is just a reversed version of "damsel in distress" instead. Doesn't make it any better... just mildly different. And no a MC doesn't need to be "strong" as people seem to imply here, just not useless. some identifiable personality trait. Make the conversations less dry. Have relevance to how things in the story play out regardless if he make things better or for worse. Hachiman and Yukino are great main characters. Not only do they both contribute to the story and is useful and relevant, they also work well with each other. There's banter. Izumi is a shell, you can replace him with any random nice guy and you get the same result. It is the same issue with 90% of harems with useless trophy cheerleading squads. Why do Shikimori like him? What make their relationship unique and INTERESTING? How do they BOTH contribute to the relationship/story? I mean first of all we don't have any real story going on... but the relationship is entirely one sided with no chemistry whatsoever Izumi isn't useless either unless you're looking at him from a stereotypically masculine point of view, in which case he's not very athletic, he's a bit clumsy, and for some reason the universe wants to kill him, all things that make him look pathetic as a man. Not to mention that he needs a woman to save him, and he can get flustered/embarrassed when she acts dominantly towards him, which is just another strike against him. All of the complaints against him are mainly coming from the position that he's a failure as a man. Now, while the manga is far superior, it's still a very simple kind of series, it's mostly just a lot of cute interactions and fluff, if you're looking for real depth to any of these characters, it's just not going to happen. There's some semi-emotional/dramatic moments, but everything is surface level, it's not aiming for the kind of realism that allows for true character dimension. However, the anime is just an awful adaptation compared to how the manga feels, the simple nature isn't a bad thing. As for your questions, Shikimori likes him because he's a kind and earnest person, and she thinks he's very cute. What's unique about their relationship is that she's often the more dominant of the two, which is not the norm for a heterosexual pairing, but they're both comfortable with it. They contribute to the relationship by treating the other with respect, and being thoughtful towards the other. Of course, they act like 5th graders, it's not a realistic series, that's just how it is. He is useless, or at least with what I managed to sit through. I seen a youtube video of a later scene where he seems to have done something? Not sure without the context. But I dropped the show so I can't comment further. At least the first few episodes shows he's useless. He is useless not because lack of masculine traits. He is useless because he doesn't have an effect on his surrounding at all beyond superficial things that have no relevance to the course of events even within a singular episode. He is borderline a ghost in this story. Maybe later episodes proves me wrong but the initial impression of him is bad enough that I don't want to sit through it. And even a normal damsel in distress have greater influence in the story as it usually lead to the hero going through some arduous journey. Here is just a couple seconds of quick laughs or wholesomeness. And IMO, a reversed trope is equally bad. A reverse damsel in distress may bring some novelty initially and is a good way to hook you in with a interesting premise. But if you don't build upon it, then it's just wasted potential. We see that with the million isekai out there where they have some sort of quirk but none of them bring more to the table than that initial hook. Being nice and treating your partner with respect should be a standard in all relationships and certainly is very common in an anime. That doesn't make the relationship anymore interesting and certainly doesn't emphasize any of their chemistry with each other. I don't buy that a reverse damsel in distress is enough to make this interesting, although you don't have to agree with me. |
zcv45May 20, 2022 4:02 PM
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zcv45 said: Except, his lack of masculinity is exactly why you think he doesn't have much of an impact on the story, but I can't blame you for not understanding what his true role is in the series when the anime executes the premise this terribly. I would argue that he is easily the most relevant character, and that's largely why people react so negatively to the fact he's pathetic and annoying to watch. This is not a series that you're going to enjoy if you attempt to only watch for Shikimori compared to Marin in MDUD. But yeah, the anime is a pretty awful adaptation, so it is what it is.LostSpectre said: I disagree that a reverse damsel trope isn't any better, there's a specific reason why it's viewed as a tired cliché for the woman to need saving by a strong man, it's an entirely different situation if the man needs saving by a strong woman, this is reversing the very ideas that make the original trope old fashioned to begin with. You can't ignore that this puts a decidedly progressive spin on the trope, it's a bad thing if it's just making fun of the man, but that's not how it's handled in the manga, while the anime may be less clear about that. Izumi isn't useless either unless you're looking at him from a stereotypically masculine point of view, in which case he's not very athletic, he's a bit clumsy, and for some reason the universe wants to kill him, all things that make him look pathetic as a man. Not to mention that he needs a woman to save him, and he can get flustered/embarrassed when she acts dominantly towards him, which is just another strike against him. All of the complaints against him are mainly coming from the position that he's a failure as a man. Now, while the manga is far superior, it's still a very simple kind of series, it's mostly just a lot of cute interactions and fluff, if you're looking for real depth to any of these characters, it's just not going to happen. There's some semi-emotional/dramatic moments, but everything is surface level, it's not aiming for the kind of realism that allows for true character dimension. However, the anime is just an awful adaptation compared to how the manga feels, the simple nature isn't a bad thing. As for your questions, Shikimori likes him because he's a kind and earnest person, and she thinks he's very cute. What's unique about their relationship is that she's often the more dominant of the two, which is not the norm for a heterosexual pairing, but they're both comfortable with it. They contribute to the relationship by treating the other with respect, and being thoughtful towards the other. Of course, they act like 5th graders, it's not a realistic series, that's just how it is. He is useless, or at least with what I managed to sit through. I seen a youtube video of a later scene where he seems to have done something? Not sure without the context. But I dropped the show so I can't comment further. At least the first few episodes shows he's useless. He is useless not because lack of masculine traits. He is useless because he doesn't have an effect on his surrounding at all beyond superficial things that have no relevance to the course of events even within a singular episode. He is borderline a ghost in this story. Maybe later episodes proves me wrong but the initial impression of him is bad enough that I don't want to sit through it. And even a normal damsel in distress have greater influence in the story as it usually lead to the hero going through some arduous journey. Here is just a couple seconds of quick laughs or wholesomeness. And IMO, a reversed trope is equally bad. A reverse damsel in distress may bring some novelty initially and is a good way to hook you in with a interesting premise. But if you don't build upon it, then it's just wasted potential. We see that with the million isekai out there where they have some sort of quirk but none of them bring more to the table than that initial hook. Being nice and treating your partner with respect should be a standard in all relationships and certainly is very common in an anime. That doesn't make the relationship anymore interesting and certainly doesn't emphasize any of their chemistry with each other. I don't buy that a reverse damsel in distress is enough to make this interesting, although you don't have to agree with me. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| "Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced" Can't help but agree with this line. |
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DankWeeb said: His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. I don't like or dislike Izumi Imo his lack of masculinity is not the reason people dislike him it's his generic character. It's a SoL, so I don't think they'll change his character anytime soon |
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EdgyLord666 said: I only agree with this on the first 2 episode, it gets better after that. Exactly, it's a bit overdone and improves a lot after episodes 2-3. thehornedrat said: After finding out what a bolo tie is, looks like another the message trait added there by the PC scum that is NBCUniversal, to exemplify her masculinity. Lol, to think I thought its supposed to look feminine. Anyway, thus with myself revealing to be not from America...('wtf is that necklace?' lol)....I'm super keen on acquiring a similar orange jade one myself as jewelry. Bolo ties work for any gender. I wouldn't necessarily call them masculine, maybe formal depending on the colour? There's nothing wrong with being politically correct if it doesn't impair the director's vision, but nothing about this anime is PC/not-PC, so not sure why you brought that up. LostSpectre said: Ice-Cube said: You're supposed to view Izumi on the same level of cuteness as Shikimori, at least that's crystal clear in the manga, not so much in the anime.one the main problems I have with Izumi is not entirely based on how unmasculine he is. The main issue I have with the anime is the fact that he's just there to show off shikimori, I know that's the whole premise of the show but it feels like they're completely overlooking izumi as a character and the fact that the only remarkable thing about him is his bad luck but even that trait gets overused doesn't make him any better as a character. I can only hope he gets some sort of development and not every episode be a constant show of the cute and cool shikimori. I believe in izumi supremacy more than shokimori lol I think the anime gets this point across very well. I also think this is what makes many people dislike it. A lot of people feel meh about effeminate men or that guys can be cute. Two of my old roommates once had a whole discussion where she said guys could be cute, but he said men cannot be cute but only can be handsome. I think another similar example of awkwardness is when two guys being affectionate makes cispeople (generally men) feel at unease. I don't think any of this is necessarily toxic masculinity. Something you're not used to or feel weird about doesn't make your response toxic. You don't have to like it, but you do have to be a bit open to it to enjoy this anime. |
Bl-zz said: I strongly disagree, the majority of people were trashing him for being a typically pathetic ML. The anime does not make it clear at all that you're rooting for him as much as Shikimori, plenty of people have stated that he's just a blank slate that's there to make her look good. There are so many reasons that the anime screws up where the manga succeeds. I pretty much find him unlikable in the, anime and I think he's adorable in the manga, that tells you everything you need to know. I think the anime gets this point across very well. I also think this is what makes many people dislike it. A lot of people feel meh about effeminate men or that guys can be cute. Two of my old roommates once had a whole discussion where she said guys could be cute, but he said men cannot be cute but only can be handsome. I think another similar example of awkwardness is when two guys being affectionate makes cispeople (generally men) feel at unease. I don't think any of this is necessarily toxic masculinity. Something you're not used to or feel weird about doesn't make your response toxic. You don't have to like it, but you do have to be a bit open to it to enjoy this anime. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| My opinion tells me everything I need to know. By now he's being fleshed out more and more with every episode than what half the people here have judged about, as most comments here were posted prior to the last two episodes and some of the authors mentioned they stopped watching after those 2-3 episodes. As an anime-only these episodes are all I have to go with. Of course you find him relatively unlikable, since you know a fully fleshed out version of this character from the manga and you're comparing while he's nowhere near as fleshed out in the anime yet. And to top that off he indeed started as a support item to show off his girlfriend's coolness in the first 2-3 episodes. If we go with the standard advice to watch three episodes and decide whether you like the show, I understand why some would tap out, since it wasn't until the next three episodes that he became more of a character than his misfortune as plot device. We're now 6 episodes and a commentary episode in, I'm curious if people have changed their mind about anime Izumi versus when most posted here over 2 epis ago. |
Bl-zz said: If you're talking to me, you actually have to quote me... Anyway, I liked him almost immediately in the manga, so that's not the case. My opinion tells me everything I need to know. By now he's being fleshed out more and more with every episode than what half the people here have judged about, as most comments here were posted prior to the last two episodes and some of the authors mentioned they stopped watching after those 2-3 episodes. As an anime-only these episodes are all I have to go with. Of course you find him relatively unlikable, since you know a fully fleshed out version of this character from the manga and you're comparing while he's nowhere near as fleshed out in the anime yet. And to top that off he indeed started as a support item to show off his girlfriend's coolness in the first 2-3 episodes. If we go with the standard advice to watch three episodes and decide whether you like the show, I understand why some would tap out, since it wasn't until the next three episodes that he became more of a character than his misfortune as plot device. We're now 6 episodes and a commentary episode in, I'm curious if people have changed their mind about anime Izumi versus when most posted here over 2 epis ago. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
SkyhighCFC said: LostSpectre said: It makes zero difference to the trope itself, which is the entire point, not which one is more of a damsel than the other, my guy. But it does make a difference though. The other guy was basically calling someone a hypocrite for liking Skeleton knight but disliking Shikimori because there's a damsel in distress type character, despite the fact they're 2 completely different types of shows and none of the main characters in Skeleton Knight are constant damsels in distress. Not comparable. Bruh, are you talking about me? You could just use the quote feature. I never called someone a hypocrite for liking Skeleton knight but disliking Shikimori, I just said "you're quite blind for saying 'a trope that's already been pretty much abandoned' while literally watching white knight saving chicks here & there" |
LostSpectre said: zcv45 said: Except, his lack of masculinity is exactly why you think he doesn't have much of an impact on the story, but I can't blame you for not understanding what his true role is in the series when the anime executes the premise this terribly. I would argue that he is easily the most relevant character, and that's largely why people react so negatively to the fact he's pathetic and annoying to watch. This is not a series that you're going to enjoy if you attempt to only watch for Shikimori compared to Marin in MDUD. But yeah, the anime is a pretty awful adaptation, so it is what it is.He is useless, or at least with what I managed to sit through. I seen a youtube video of a later scene where he seems to have done something? Not sure without the context. But I dropped the show so I can't comment further. At least the first few episodes shows he's useless. He is useless not because lack of masculine traits. He is useless because he doesn't have an effect on his surrounding at all beyond superficial things that have no relevance to the course of events even within a singular episode. He is borderline a ghost in this story. Maybe later episodes proves me wrong but the initial impression of him is bad enough that I don't want to sit through it. And even a normal damsel in distress have greater influence in the story as it usually lead to the hero going through some arduous journey. Here is just a couple seconds of quick laughs or wholesomeness. And IMO, a reversed trope is equally bad. A reverse damsel in distress may bring some novelty initially and is a good way to hook you in with a interesting premise. But if you don't build upon it, then it's just wasted potential. We see that with the million isekai out there where they have some sort of quirk but none of them bring more to the table than that initial hook. Being nice and treating your partner with respect should be a standard in all relationships and certainly is very common in an anime. That doesn't make the relationship anymore interesting and certainly doesn't emphasize any of their chemistry with each other. I don't buy that a reverse damsel in distress is enough to make this interesting, although you don't have to agree with me. Except I said it wasn't because his lack of masculinity. Stop putting words in my mouth and forcing YOUR interpretation. That's just blatant strawmanning and is quite annoying. If you don't think he is useless, then you can at least provide examples of that instead of chocking up my explanation to "lack of masculinity." Maybe the anime sucks compared to the manga. Fair enough. Maybe he's not useless in the manga. But he's useless in the anime. I don't see any point in discussing this further if you won't listen to your interlocutor. |
zcv45May 22, 2022 9:22 PM
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| I just dislike how he keeps taking up screentime, while Shikimori does not get enough, despite the anime is named after her. He is just generic and bland, but what I hate more is his voice acting, whenever he panicks, it just sets me off. |
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gintokisbicep said: how is the main character more pathetic mans just got bad luck. also yeah people can critique the plot but this isnt criticism its just being straight up autistic and not understanding a very basic plot. you dont like it. fine. but dont get mad when you continue to watch something that spells everything out from the first episode. y'know I feel like some of the people fretting over izumi's lack of masculinity or the repetitiveness are also the same kinda people who'd be frothing from the mouth over the likes of takagi-san and nagatoro and the such |
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| I have absolutely no problem with submissive MC. We all enjoyed Nagatoro afterall. The problem is, that Izumi completely lacks personality, thus has no chemistry with his GF. The only joke this show has, which is Izumi's bad luck got repetitive by the end of first episode. Bad protagonist can singlehandedly drag the show to the bottom and decent waifu won't save it by herself. |
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V1P3R0P said: 'repetitive troupe where the guy is chad'DankWeeb said: I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes. Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character. Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation? tl;dr. I'm actually bored with the repetitive troupe where the guy is a chad, his girl is always in trouble. I actually felt refreshed with this change in setting. It doesnt interest many people, but it is what it is. can't help!! You're talking as if it's very common |
zcv45 said: I just don't believe you, it seems obvious that his lack of masculine traits are connected to your opinion that he's useless. LostSpectre said: Except, his lack of masculinity is exactly why you think he doesn't have much of an impact on the story, but I can't blame you for not understanding what his true role is in the series when the anime executes the premise this terribly. I would argue that he is easily the most relevant character, and that's largely why people react so negatively to the fact he's pathetic and annoying to watch. This is not a series that you're going to enjoy if you attempt to only watch for Shikimori compared to Marin in MDUD. But yeah, the anime is a pretty awful adaptation, so it is what it is. Except I said it wasn't because his lack of masculinity. Stop putting words in my mouth and forcing YOUR interpretation. That's just blatant strawmanning and is quite annoying. If you don't think he is useless, then you can at least provide examples of that instead of chocking up my explanation to "lack of masculinity." Maybe the anime sucks compared to the manga. Fair enough. Maybe he's not useless in the manga. But he's useless in the anime. I don't see any point in discussing this further if you won't listen to your interlocutor. |
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| He have nothing to like about his character. The entire anime is only going because of Shikimori rest of the shits doesn't really matter. |
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SkyhighCFC said: Short_Circut said: y'know I feel like some of the people fretting over izumi's lack of masculinity or the repetitiveness are also the same kinda people who'd be frothing from the mouth over the likes of takagi-san and nagatoro and the such Comparing 3 completely different types of shows, so idk what you're really trying to say here. You really thought you ate huh? You really thought you ate huh? wat Simply agreeing with @gintokisbicep 's statement that a lot of the "criticism" ITT is quite absurd (especially regarding the ones about Izumi's lack of masculinity), to which I conveniently mentioned 2 other series' that do have tons of repetitiveness and actual pathetic characters (Nishikata and from what I've seen Naoto) which people seem to well enjoy despite the aforementioned. For sure some of the criticism here is actual fair play criticism, like @zcv45 one for instance, but the majority of things I'm reading makes me feel like this is an introductory psychology course on how to detect signs of autism |
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