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May 13, 2022 9:38 AM
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I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?
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May 13, 2022 9:44 AM
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

i agree with you, its really hard to watch the anime bc of izumi
May 13, 2022 9:45 AM
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ye i agree it does kinda get repetitive
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

tl;dr.
I'm actually bored with the repetitive troupe where the guy is a chad, his girl is always in trouble. I actually felt refreshed with this change in setting. It doesnt interest many people, but it is what it is. can't help!!
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May 13, 2022 9:48 AM
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you're right. he is so cringe. also, kakkou no iinazuke is better.
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May 13, 2022 9:49 AM
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I mean, this is what makes the anime great but putting way too much bad luck and making Shikimori that much glorious... I have a feeling about I'll start thinking that Shikimori is the boy and Izumi is the girl at some point.
May 13, 2022 9:50 AM
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

Everyone is def gonna agree with you on this
Izumi makes the show really cringe and annoying to watch

This is a bad example but it's just like rising of a shield hero
The anime glorifies the mc and his harem by showing how the world around them is bad which is foolish and moronic to say the least.
May 13, 2022 9:54 AM
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Idk but we all are used to see bfs(in anime) with many good qualities and a strong personality. The key point of this anime is emphasize the two shikimori’s sides(badass and cute), based on the opening I hope the anime will show us about the past of them and a good development for them.
May 13, 2022 9:56 AM
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V1P3R0P said:
DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

tl;dr.
I'm actually bored with the repetitive troupe where the guy is a chad, his girl is always in trouble. I actually felt refreshed with this change in setting. It doesnt interest many people, but it is what it is. can't help!!


I really dont like this trope at all regardless of their genders tbh because
1) Both parties dont show any kind of character development
2) It has no plot point besides the repetitive getting in trouble/saving

The same reason i dont like asia from high school dxd.
May 13, 2022 10:00 AM

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Coast27 said:
Idk but we all are used to see bfs(in anime) with many good qualities and a strong personality. The key point of this anime is emphasize the two shikimori’s sides(badass and cute), based on the opening I hope the anime will show us about the past of them and a good development for them.

I thought I was the only one who had this opinion,but yes.. THANK YOU.
May 13, 2022 10:07 AM
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The only thing wrong is the haters Izumi is a great husband
May 13, 2022 10:11 AM
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

The whole toxic masculinity thing is hardly ever explored in anime. Women in popular animes always showed some form of dominance in their relationship even when the man is a bad ass. I said this before and I say it again, the problem with this series is the lack of clarification of their targeted demographic. Because I feel the large majority that watch this series will feel more comfortable if Izumi was a woman. There I said it, Izumi should be a girl and this should be a Yuri series.
May 13, 2022 10:18 AM
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exactly! When i watched episode 3 (i believe it was ep 3) When they went to the cinema I already knew she was gonna pick a horror movie and he would be scared instead of her. It is so forced that i stopped the show - for now
May 13, 2022 10:22 AM

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Well, I guess you answered your own question which you asked in the end.

DankWeeb said:
Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?


DankWeeb said:
V1P3R0P said:

tl;dr.
I'm actually bored with the repetitive troupe where the guy is a chad, his girl is always in trouble. I actually felt refreshed with this change in setting. It doesnt interest many people, but it is what it is. can't help!!


I really dont like this trope at all regardless of their genders tbh because
1) Both parties dont show any kind of character development
2) It has no plot point besides the repetitive getting in trouble/saving

The same reason i dont like asia from high school dxd.




  1. Not all shows generally have character development. There are some shows which just wants to highlight a daily life of a particular character(s).

  2. If the main focus of the story is to highlight the daily life of a character(s), it doesn't need any kind of complicated plots with drama and such stuff. It is good when it is simple.


My suggestion is that, dont watch such shows if you generally dont like the setting. There are lot of other shows to choose from and you'll only regret in the end if you keep on watching shows from settings you dont like.


Also Izumi had a pretty good spotlight in episode 5. Not the typical punchbag Izumi, but a cool reliable Izumi.
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you're right. he is so cringe. also, kakkou no iinazuke is better.

Yessssssssir...
May 13, 2022 10:33 AM

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The whole "role reversal" and Izumi being more weak and feminine for a male just works 10x better in the manga, the anime seems to have forgotten the part where they're supposed to make him likable to the audience, while in the manga there's 100 pages in the first volume dedicated to just cute moments between the couple over their first year together, which familiarizes you with the unique aspects of their relationship, and endears you towards both of them, especially Izumi. At the very least, you would know within the first volume whether you enjoy or are interested in the premise or if you're uncomfortable with it. It's technically a shonen, but I don't know that many shonen where you're expected to view the ML in a hetero couple as precious/adorable and relate to him sometimes as if he were a girl, because he's far from just a joke, despite how the anime seems to want to portray him.
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If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that.
May 13, 2022 10:39 AM

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V1P3R0P said:
Well, I guess you answered your own question which you asked in the end.

DankWeeb said:
Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?


DankWeeb said:


I really dont like this trope at all regardless of their genders tbh because
1) Both parties dont show any kind of character development
2) It has no plot point besides the repetitive getting in trouble/saving

The same reason i dont like asia from high school dxd.




  • Not all shows generally have character development. There are some shows which just wants to highlight a daily life of a particular character(s).

  • If the main focus of the story is to highlight the daily life of a character(s), it doesn't need any kind of complicated plots with drama and such stuff. It is good when it is simple.


My suggestion is that, dont watch such shows if you generally dont like the setting. There are lot of other shows to choose from and you'll only regret in the end if you keep on watching shows from settings you dont like.


Also Izumi had a pretty good spotlight in episode 5. Not the typical punchbag Izumi, but a cool reliable Izumi.

I don't think "reliable" is the best way to describe Izumi in ep 5. He was better but far from "reliable"
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Kene_M said:
V1P3R0P said:
Well, I guess you answered your own question which you asked in the end.







  • Not all shows generally have character development. There are some shows which just wants to highlight a daily life of a particular character(s).

  • If the main focus of the story is to highlight the daily life of a character(s), it doesn't need any kind of complicated plots with drama and such stuff. It is good when it is simple.


My suggestion is that, dont watch such shows if you generally dont like the setting. There are lot of other shows to choose from and you'll only regret in the end if you keep on watching shows from settings you dont like.


Also Izumi had a pretty good spotlight in episode 5. Not the typical punchbag Izumi, but a cool reliable Izumi.

I don't think "reliable" is the best way to describe Izumi in ep 5. He was better but far from "reliable"

Well, He had some positive moments focused just on him, which is a good thing, given how "weak" his character was shown in the previous episodes.
May 13, 2022 10:55 AM
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DankWeeb said:
V1P3R0P said:

tl;dr.
I'm actually bored with the repetitive troupe where the guy is a chad, his girl is always in trouble. I actually felt refreshed with this change in setting. It doesnt interest many people, but it is what it is. can't help!!


I really dont like this trope at all regardless of their genders tbh because
1) Both parties dont show any kind of character development
2) It has no plot point besides the repetitive getting in trouble/saving

The same reason i dont like asia from high school dxd.

There is actually character development further down the eps like in the last one we can see how izumi isn’t actually hopeless but actually can do smth but it is slow tho
Also there’s a reason why it’s categorized as a slice of life which generally just don’t have a plot
May 13, 2022 11:16 AM
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V1P3R0P said:
Well, I guess you answered your own question which you asked in the end.

DankWeeb said:
Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?


DankWeeb said:


I really dont like this trope at all regardless of their genders tbh because
1) Both parties dont show any kind of character development
2) It has no plot point besides the repetitive getting in trouble/saving

The same reason i dont like asia from high school dxd.




  1. Not all shows generally have character development. There are some shows which just wants to highlight a daily life of a particular character(s).

  2. If the main focus of the story is to highlight the daily life of a character(s), it doesn't need any kind of complicated plots with drama and such stuff. It is good when it is simple.


My suggestion is that, dont watch such shows if you generally dont like the setting. There are lot of other shows to choose from and you'll only regret in the end if you keep on watching shows from settings you dont like.


Also Izumi had a pretty good spotlight in episode 5. Not the typical punchbag Izumi, but a cool reliable Izumi.


I love slice of life. And the slice of life anime i have watched had their own fair share of character development. Izumi in itself is not truly an unbearable character, but the way he is used(his bad luck is used) shadows his redeemable qualities almost completely. Its like the writer did this for the sake of keeping the main agenda intact that shikomori is the dominant character and "more of a boyfriend", they end up completely slandering one character and it really turns off the mood
May 13, 2022 11:31 AM
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

I suggest reading the manga as I would with most people who are watching the anime and hate it because the manga is gonna show more of how cool Izumi is. However, the "problem" or whatever of people complaining about masculine, etc... is kinda not necessary cause he doesn't need it not all male characters need that. one thing I do appreciate about this discussion is that you aren't one of those people who just say "cringe" or something as a answer which isn't valid as you need a actual reasoning with detail
May 13, 2022 11:33 AM
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Pred8r said:
DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

Everyone is def gonna agree with you on this
Izumi makes the show really cringe and annoying to watch

This is a bad example but it's just like rising of a shield hero
The anime glorifies the mc and his harem by showing how the world around them is bad which is foolish and moronic to say the least.

I don't agree so do many fans of Shikimori's Not Just a Cutie. I mean I'm biased because I fell in love with the series the moment the manga came out so when a anime was announced my expectations were high and they are being met so far. it's really just a matter of opinion obviously not everyone will like a certain show
May 13, 2022 11:35 AM
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honestly as someone who enjoys Shikomori-san I can understand what you're saying. izumi does feel like a side character at times because of that but I feel like his redeeming qualities are enough for me and the cheesy combo the two of them make is just what I needed to watch right now (I just didn't know it).

In general this is one of the reviews that I'm willing to accept for this anime since is isn't just a bad shunning of the show for no reason.
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Otaku_Campers_ said:
Pred8r said:

Everyone is def gonna agree with you on this
Izumi makes the show really cringe and annoying to watch

This is a bad example but it's just like rising of a shield hero
The anime glorifies the mc and his harem by showing how the world around them is bad which is foolish and moronic to say the least.

I don't agree so do many fans of Shikimori's Not Just a Cutie. I mean I'm biased because I fell in love with the series the moment the manga came out so when a anime was announced my expectations were high and they are being met so far. it's really just a matter of opinion obviously not everyone will like a certain show
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Pred8r said:
Otaku_Campers_ said:

I don't agree so do many fans of Shikimori's Not Just a Cutie. I mean I'm biased because I fell in love with the series the moment the manga came out so when a anime was announced my expectations were high and they are being met so far. it's really just a matter of opinion obviously not everyone will like a certain show
You're weird.This ain't good

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The whole "role reversal" and Izumi being more weak and feminine for a male just works 10x better in the manga, the anime seems to have forgotten the part where they're supposed to make him likable to the audience, while in the manga there's 100 pages in the first volume dedicated to just cute moments between the couple over their first year together, which familiarizes you with the unique aspects of their relationship, and endears you towards both of them, especially Izumi. At the very least, you would know within the first volume whether you enjoy or are interested in the premise or if you're uncomfortable with it. It's technically a shonen, but I don't know that many shonen where you're expected to view the ML in a hetero couple as precious/adorable and relate to him sometimes as if he were a girl, because he's far from just a joke, despite how the anime seems to want to portray him.

Finally someone who get it πŸ™Œ
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Otaku_Campers_ said:
Pred8r said:
You're weird.This ain't good
Sorry for having my own opinions of what I like makes me weird
No worries you're forgiven :D
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Pred8r said:
Otaku_Campers_ said:
Sorry for having my own opinions of what I like makes me weird
No worries you're forgiven :D

I mean I like Izumi he doesn't need masculinity to be a good character, but not everyone will like a character like that everyone has their own individual thoughts and opinions on a character or show. but I just recommend those that don't like the anime to stop watching or give the manga a try instead
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Pred8r said:
No worries you're forgiven :D

I mean I like Izumi he doesn't need masculinity to be a good character, but not everyone will like a character like that everyone has their own individual thoughts and opinions on a character or show. but I just recommend those that don't like the anime to stop watching or give the manga a try instead
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I dropped it dw
May 13, 2022 11:53 AM
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I've been wondering why I haven't been enjoying this anime, and you summed it up perfectly. it's gotten so boring. shikimori is the only draw, but even then she isn't enough to carry a whole show
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Showing the badassness of a character is good in its own way but sometimes it feels and looks like Shikomori is a meta-human/superhuman, she does things which normal humans can't do, and on the other hand we have poor Izumi a waste of good ML. They don't have to give him so much bad luck to make Shikomori do her thing(saving and protect Izumi) she can do these kinds of things in normal settings too.
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?


Anime is full of strong women in meaningful relationships.

What it hasn't had much of in a while is the female equivalent of Izumi, the "damsel in distress" type.

That's one of the tedious things about this show, it's reversing a trope that's already been pretty much abandoned, so what point is it making and who even cares.

On top of that, the romance is flat and the comedy is non existent.

disclaimer: all these observations as at episode three, after which I hard dropped this.

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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

Nobody explained him better than you
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I think you've pretty much summer why most people don't really like this anime in general. After 2 ep I started reading the manga, while it's better in many aspects, including MC, they just... decided not to follow the manga order. I think that's what really made me somewhat meh/mid decision with this anime in general.
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That's one of the tedious things about this show, it's reversing a trope that's already been pretty much abandoned, so what point is it making and who even cares.
If only the manga handled this topic far better, and it actually made sense there, unlike in the anime. That would just be crazy, though.
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I disagree. In the most recent episode he a) saves a child from drowning and b) shows himself to be a competent and capable cook. Obviously he’s going to be put in unlucky situations and Shikimori will have to save him every episode, because that’s what the anime is about. Plus, i find it refreshing to see a make protagonist who isn’t as ‘capable’ as his female counterpart.

If you disagree and dislike the character that’s fine but a lot of people who are complaining in these threads are conflating their own personal opinions for facts.
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Why are selfinserting anime watchers so predictable?
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I only agree with this on the first 2 episode, it gets better after that.
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V1P3R0P said:
DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

tl;dr.
I'm actually bored with the repetitive troupe where the guy is a chad, his girl is always in trouble. I actually felt refreshed with this change in setting. It doesnt interest many people, but it is what it is. can't help!!

yeah I feel the same shikimori is nice fresh up anime cause there's not alot of shows with this concept
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kfsilver89 said:
DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

The whole toxic masculinity thing is hardly ever explored in anime. Women in popular animes always showed some form of dominance in their relationship even when the man is a bad ass. I said this before and I say it again, the problem with this series is the lack of clarification of their targeted demographic. Because I feel the large majority that watch this series will feel more comfortable if Izumi was a woman. There I said it, Izumi should be a girl and this should be a Yuri series.

As much as I love yuri, I'm not gonna sacrifice cute boys doing cute things for the sake of my own satisfaction.
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kfsilver89 said:

The whole toxic masculinity thing is hardly ever explored in anime. Women in popular animes always showed some form of dominance in their relationship even when the man is a bad ass. I said this before and I say it again, the problem with this series is the lack of clarification of their targeted demographic. Because I feel the large majority that watch this series will feel more comfortable if Izumi was a woman. There I said it, Izumi should be a girl and this should be a Yuri series.

As much as I love yuri, I'm not gonna sacrifice cute boys doing cute things for the sake of my own satisfaction.
hahaha! That’s the weirdest way to put it! But again as I said about the targeted demographic, look at the discussions. People are just confused and uncomfortable but there is a niche audience that likes this… and you’re part of it.
May 13, 2022 3:01 PM

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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?


Anime is full of strong women in meaningful relationships.

What it hasn't had much of in a while is the female equivalent of Izumi, the "damsel in distress" type.

That's one of the tedious things about this show, it's reversing a trope that's already been pretty much abandoned, so what point is it making and who even cares.

On top of that, the romance is flat and the comedy is non existent.

disclaimer: all these observations as at episode three, after which I hard dropped this.


Said someone with skeleton knight in their favorite.
May 13, 2022 5:16 PM
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

I agree with you his character is nothing but a punching bag
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Why do I read so often that "lack of masculinity" is somehow a bad trait? I am sure most people couldn't even define masculinity in a way that doesn't just boil down to being a good person in general.

Don't want to start a whole philosophy discussion but I am actually curious.
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Can we fucking stop it with these posts?
If y'all wanna add your opinion just go to the previous hate posts
Please stop doing this unless you have something new to say
We obviously don't need 10 of the same threads saying why this anime sucks

I'm just so tired of the human race
Why do we have to be so annoying?
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

I agree with you. It would be funnier for me if he was really masculine but was super clumsy and she needs to protect him. She would be a better match with Inuzuka. Izumi is a hard character to like, 5 episodes in and I still don’t like him.
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SoupEnergy said:
Can we fucking stop it with these posts?
If y'all wanna add your opinion just go to the previous hate posts
Please stop doing this unless you have something new to say
We obviously don't need 10 of the same threads saying why this anime sucks

I'm just so tired of the human race
Why do we have to be so annoying?

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May 13, 2022 8:34 PM
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DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

Personally, I find Izumi adorable! I really love how dorky and feminine-like he is, and I don't think that he's a loser. For me, a real loser is the protagonist from Rent a Girlfriend (no particularly attractive traits, awful personality). Izumi, contrary to him, has good qualities that makes it believable for a girl to fall in love with him.

Him being clumsy and having bad luck is part of the premise, and it is not just to "glorify shikimori". The series plays on the idea of a girl being the protector in a relationship with a guy who keeps getting himself in trouble, as opposed to the roles being reversed like a typical romance anime.

I mean, maybe it's just the "male gaze vs female gaze" thing? You might see Izumi as cringe whereas others might see him as cute. It's just a matter of preference at this point.
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V1P3R0P said:
DankWeeb said:
I am currently on episode 3. From the beginning i didn't like izumi. His lack of masculine traits and his overall loser mentality around his bad luck. It felt kinda hypocritical when i repeated this phrase inside my mind so i overlooked this fact and decided to continue watching it anyways. And maybe now i have realized the reason i hate him. The way they keep using him in the first two episodes.

Dude is nothing more than a punching bag and a tool for glorifying shikomori's badass behavior. The anime constantly tries to put him down while glorifying shikomori. It feels really forced. Of course he has his own redeemable qualities but he never got the stage he deserved. He feels more like a side character.

Does anyone agree with me or i am in reality a hypocrite who harbors toxic masculinity and cant tolerate a woman-in-charge in any situation?

tl;dr.
I'm actually bored with the repetitive troupe where the guy is a chad, his girl is always in trouble. I actually felt refreshed with this change in setting. It doesnt interest many people, but it is what it is. can't help!!

me exactly! it was very refreshing to see tbh hehe
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LostSpectre said:
The whole "role reversal" and Izumi being more weak and feminine for a male just works 10x better in the manga, the anime seems to have forgotten the part where they're supposed to make him likable to the audience, while in the manga there's 100 pages in the first volume dedicated to just cute moments between the couple over their first year together, which familiarizes you with the unique aspects of their relationship, and endears you towards both of them, especially Izumi. At the very least, you would know within the first volume whether you enjoy or are interested in the premise or if you're uncomfortable with it. It's technically a shonen, but I don't know that many shonen where you're expected to view the ML in a hetero couple as precious/adorable and relate to him sometimes as if he were a girl, because he's far from just a joke, despite how the anime seems to want to portray him.

alright, I'm sold. reading the manga soon lol
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