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Feb 27, 2022 9:04 AM
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so ye this is it the alliance is formed to stop Eren and his world genocide plan so which side do you support?

im for alliance and a globalist in real life (your vote)

Zeke and Yelena/Volunteers have the same goal as the Alliance aka saving the world from the rumbling so they are globalists too
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Feb 27, 2022 9:07 AM
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you know that the "im a yeagerist but globalist in real life" will win here, right?

anyway i despise Erens actions, so im for alliance and globalist in real life (your vote)
Feb 27, 2022 9:07 AM
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Nice distinction with the ral life comparison, makes it more insteresting
Feb 27, 2022 9:08 AM
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you know that the "im a yeagerist but globalist in real life" will win here, right?


we will see thats why i made this thread
Feb 27, 2022 9:30 AM
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deg said:
so ye this is it the alliance is formed to stop Eren and his world genocide plan so which side do you support?

im for alliance and globalist in real life (your vote)
just cus it's anime, ill be a yeagerist ... but as soon as focus is shifted to the real world - globalist for the win, anyone following yeagerist ideals would mean submitting to a harsh rule of dictatorship
Feb 27, 2022 9:58 AM
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Is this gonna be like Naruto fanbase and start wearing a piece of clothing to show which side you on?
Feb 27, 2022 10:00 AM
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I'm rooting for Zeke and Yelena, who would be globalists or some kind of anti-nationalists.
Feb 27, 2022 10:09 AM
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I'm rooting for Zeke and Yelena, who would be globalists or some kind of anti-nationalists.


someone who's not a nazi i guess
Feb 27, 2022 10:10 AM
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Just let me watch the fucking show in peace
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Feb 27, 2022 10:19 AM

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I'd say I'm just a spectator to the story, and an individualist in real life.
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There should also be the option of “I’m Switzerland”


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Feb 27, 2022 10:34 AM

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Man, this is something bigger than just nationalism vs globalism.

They're trying to stop world genocide.
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Feb 27, 2022 11:21 AM
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Neither, I am team volunteers and Zeke.
Feb 27, 2022 11:22 AM
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Yeagerist and a Nationalist. The only Globalism I support is the preaching of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Feb 27, 2022 11:24 AM
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Neither, I am team volunteers and Zeke.


Zeke and Yelena/Volunteers have the same goal as the Alliance aka saving the world from the rumbling so they are globalists too
Feb 27, 2022 11:26 AM
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deg said:
iAntares said:
Neither, I am team volunteers and Zeke.


Zeke and Yelena/Volunteers have the same goal as the Alliance aka saving the world from the rumbling so they are globalists too

They have differences tho.

Zeke and Yelena want to sterilize Eldians which I wholeheartedly support.
Feb 27, 2022 11:29 AM
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man it just fictional work with fictional power
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Feb 27, 2022 11:54 AM

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well considering that one side is trying to genocide the entire world and the other side isn't attempting that, it's pretty clear which side should be supported.
Feb 27, 2022 12:01 PM

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deg has been WAITING for the day he could make this thread in the anime forums LOL

Your vote.
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Feb 27, 2022 12:03 PM
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deg has been WAITING for the day he could make this thread in the anime forums LOL


lol i do not remember making this thread on the manga section but im sure there was like threads similar to it in the manga section too
Feb 27, 2022 12:06 PM

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deg said:
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deg has been WAITING for the day he could make this thread in the anime forums LOL


lol i do not remember making this thread on the manga section but im sure there was like threads similar to it in the manga section too
Oh I'm sure there were similar threads in the manga forums, but hey, you beat them in the anime forums.
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Feb 27, 2022 12:38 PM
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How does wanting to stop a mass genocide make you a globalist? That’s just being normal.
Feb 27, 2022 12:57 PM
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How does wanting to stop a mass genocide make you a globalist? That’s just being normal.


in this show it means youre willing to kill your countrymen to save the world like what Hange did in this weeks episode when she shoots and kill her own men
Feb 27, 2022 1:04 PM
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deg said:

in this show it means youre willing to kill your countrymen to save the world like what Hange did in this weeks episode when she shoots and kill her own men


Technically speaking, some nationalists leaders in history were also willing to kill their own countrymen directly and indirectly.
Feb 27, 2022 1:13 PM
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deg said:

in this show it means youre willing to kill your countrymen to save the world like what Hange did in this weeks episode when she shoots and kill her own men


Technically speaking, some nationalists leaders in history were also willing to kill their own countrymen directly and indirectly.


true but maybe the scale of deaths is where the difference lie
Feb 27, 2022 1:45 PM
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alliance and nationalist in real life. Nationalism based, genocide not. Simple as. Marley is horrible, yeagerist is horrible. Only good guy here is Jean and onyankopon(?) tbh.
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Alliance/globalist, Armin-position(ye it's normie-ish i know). Honestly tho they're all pretty much nationalists/imperialists except the 105th, Hange and Levi. That's the point of the show and why everything has gone to shit. Anyway how annoying is the "iT's JuSt FiCtIoN" crowd? Thanks for the info, we know, if you don't like political interpretation of a show that is 100% political just stick to battle manga and power of friendship stuff
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At this point there is no correct answer, because things escalated too far and now it's only "us or them".

Eren is now the monster Marley created and centuries of their propaganda seemed like a reality now for everyone who does not know the full story and will be on the receiving end of this genocide.
If Eren does not destroy literally everyone single remnant of humanity beyond Paradis, wether it will take a decade, century or even longer, they will eventually scramble, organise and retaliate.

If peace between Marley and Paradis is not an option, Zeke's plan was probably the only correct one. But now it is too late for that.
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At this point there is no correct answer, because things escalated too far and now it's only "us or them".

Eren is now the monster Marley created and centuries of their propaganda seemed like a reality now for everyone who does not know the full story and will be on the receiving end of this genocide.
If Eren does not destroy literally everyone single remnant of humanity beyond Paradis, wether it will take a decade, century or even longer, they will eventually scramble, organise and retaliate.

If peace between Marley and Paradis is not an option, Zeke's plan was probably the only correct one. But now it is too late for that.

bruh Zeke plan was the worst one. It's still genocide but the smaller defending nation is the one that gets fucked? nah jit tripping
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Crabs-a-coming69 said:
Piromysl said:
At this point there is no correct answer, because things escalated too far and now it's only "us or them".

Eren is now the monster Marley created and centuries of their propaganda seemed like a reality now for everyone who does not know the full story and will be on the receiving end of this genocide.
If Eren does not destroy literally everyone single remnant of humanity beyond Paradis, wether it will take a decade, century or even longer, they will eventually scramble, organise and retaliate.

If peace between Marley and Paradis is not an option, Zeke's plan was probably the only correct one. But now it is too late for that.

bruh Zeke plan was the worst one. It's still genocide but the smaller defending nation is the one that gets fucked? nah jit tripping

It's not a genocide at all, literally no one was gonna die if Eren went with Zeke's plan.
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iAntares said:
Crabs-a-coming69 said:

bruh Zeke plan was the worst one. It's still genocide but the smaller defending nation is the one that gets fucked? nah jit tripping

It's not a genocide at all, nobody was gonna die if Eren went with Zeke's plan.

Eradicating an entire race of people through sterilization? Not genocide at all perfectly moral no problems here ๐Ÿคก
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iAntares said:

It's not a genocide at all, nobody was gonna die if Eren went with Zeke's plan.

Eradicating an entire race of people through sterilization? Not genocide at all perfectly moral no problems here ๐Ÿคก
If that race is inherently cursed and dangerous then yes, it's perfectly reasonable and far more moral than killing billions of people.
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iAntares said:
Crabs-a-coming69 said:

Eradicating an entire race of people through sterilization? Not genocide at all perfectly moral no problems here ๐Ÿคก
If that race is inherently cursed and dangerous yes, it's perfectly reasonable and far more moral than killing billions of people.

Not if the individuals did nothing wrong. Plus Marley has anti titan tanks it's literally said that titan power is on the decline. You cant just say "oh they have nine individuals at a time who are incredibly dangerous so let's remove their entire race ability to have children" wtf? Nah bro it's not even more moral than killing billions if those billions attempt to kill you all to get at paradis' oil reserves lmao zeke is literally the worst option
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If that race is inherently cursed and dangerous yes, it's perfectly reasonable and far more moral than killing billions of people.

Not if the individuals did nothing wrong. Plus Marley has anti titan tanks it's literally said that titan power is on the decline. You cant just say "oh they have nine individuals at a time who are incredibly dangerous so let's remove their entire race ability to have children" wtf? Nah bro it's not even more moral than killing billions if those billions attempt to kill you all to get at paradis' oil reserves lmao zeke is literally the worst option

Do you seriously think everyone outside the Paradis hates Eldians lmao? It's a Marleyan propaganda, majority of common people don't even know Eldians exist.
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If that race is inherently cursed and dangerous yes, it's perfectly reasonable and far more moral than killing billions of people.

Not if the individuals did nothing wrong. Plus Marley has anti titan tanks it's literally said that titan power is on the decline. You cant just say "oh they have nine individuals at a time who are incredibly dangerous so let's remove their entire race ability to have children" wtf? Nah bro it's not even more moral than killing billions if those billions attempt to kill you all to get at paradis' oil reserves lmao zeke is literally the worst option

Plus, Eldians are not only threat to others, but to themselves as well. Imagine if a mad person got the Founder's power? They could literally do whatever they want with Eldians without their consent.
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iAntares said:
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Not if the individuals did nothing wrong. Plus Marley has anti titan tanks it's literally said that titan power is on the decline. You cant just say "oh they have nine individuals at a time who are incredibly dangerous so let's remove their entire race ability to have children" wtf? Nah bro it's not even more moral than killing billions if those billions attempt to kill you all to get at paradis' oil reserves lmao zeke is literally the worst option

Do you seriously think everyone outside the Paradis hates Eldians lmao? It's a Marleyan propaganda, majority of common people don't even know Eldians exist.

Then where elena come from? Onyankopon? Bruh whay about the scene where the world leaders came to listen to willy tybers speech about the eldians?
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iAntares said:
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Not if the individuals did nothing wrong. Plus Marley has anti titan tanks it's literally said that titan power is on the decline. You cant just say "oh they have nine individuals at a time who are incredibly dangerous so let's remove their entire race ability to have children" wtf? Nah bro it's not even more moral than killing billions if those billions attempt to kill you all to get at paradis' oil reserves lmao zeke is literally the worst option

Do you seriously think everyone outside the Paradis hates Eldians lmao? It's a Marleyan propaganda, majority of common people don't even know Eldians exist.

Then where elena come from? Onyankopon? Bruh whay about the scene where the world leaders came to listen to willy tybers speech about the eldians?
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iAntares said:
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Not if the individuals did nothing wrong. Plus Marley has anti titan tanks it's literally said that titan power is on the decline. You cant just say "oh they have nine individuals at a time who are incredibly dangerous so let's remove their entire race ability to have children" wtf? Nah bro it's not even more moral than killing billions if those billions attempt to kill you all to get at paradis' oil reserves lmao zeke is literally the worst option

Plus, Eldians are not only threat to others, but yo themselves as well. Imagine if a mad person got the Founder's power? They could literally do whatever they want with Eldians without their consent.


Like making them infertile? ๐Ÿคก
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Plus, Eldians are not only threat to others, but yo themselves as well. Imagine if a mad person got the Founder's power? They could literally do whatever they want with Eldians without their consent.


Like making them infertile? ๐Ÿคก
So you agree titan powers are OP and dangerous :)
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Alliance/globalist, Armin-position(ye it's normie-ish i know). Honestly tho they're all pretty much nationalists/imperialists except the 105th, Hange and Levi. That's the point of the show and why everything has gone to shit. Anyway how annoying is the "iT's JuSt FiCtIoN" crowd? Thanks for the info, we know, if you don't like political interpretation of a show that is 100% political just stick to battle manga and power of friendship stuff

based only good opinion. baffling how theres so many ppl in favour of either of the sides wanting to commit genocide. i mean i know the show kinda uses fascist aesthetics, but i would hope the anti-fascist and anti-imperialist message would push ppl away from that stuff. guess not
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Do you seriously think everyone outside the Paradis hates Eldians lmao? It's a Marleyan propaganda, majority of common people don't even know Eldians exist.

Then where elena come from? Onyankopon? Bruh whay about the scene where the world leaders came to listen to willy tybers speech about the eldians?
Does your president fully represent you? Do you deserve to die because your president declared a war that you didn't want?
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iAntares said:
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Then where elena come from? Onyankopon? Bruh whay about the scene where the world leaders came to listen to willy tybers speech about the eldians?
Does your president fully represent you? Do you deserve to die because your president declared a war that you didn't want?


No that's why I voted alliance RL nationalist, but with that said zeke still has the worst plan because the only people who didn't do anything wrong, the eldian public, are the ones who get fucked. Sorry but there has to be a level of responsibility and if it comes to the national level, which matters like this have to, then paradis is the one defending itself so it's more moral for them to kill everyone else in self defence than them to be sacrificed purely because they are the minority scapegoat. Alliance where no one gets genocided is obviously the best option, zeke where the innocent get genocided for the good of the majority is the worst option. FAX
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neither. One side wanted to sterilize an entire race of people. And the other sides answer to this is destroy the world. Whatever call Armin's/Jean's group (s) have my support.

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alliance and nationalist in real life. Nationalism based, genocide not. Simple as. Marley is horrible, yeagerist is horrible. Only good guy here is Jean and onyankopon(?) tbh.


Agreed.
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neither. One side wanted to sterilize an entire race of people. And the other sides answer to this is destroy the world. Whatever call Armin's/Jean's group (s) have my support..

Alliance in this poll refers to Jean and Armin's group.
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Isn’t a nationalist just someone’s who’s at least slightly xenophobic? I’m curious as to the people who would self identify as a nationalist. Also I get supporting the Jaegerists because the protagonist of the show is Eren Jaeger but if you genuinely do support them for policy reasons then that’s just supporting mass genocide.
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Man, this is something bigger than just nationalism vs globalism.

They're trying to stop world genocide.

by saving the ones that will exterminate their homies after being rescued
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At this point there is no correct answer, because things escalated too far and now it's only "us or them".

Eren is now the monster Marley created and centuries of their propaganda seemed like a reality now for everyone who does not know the full story and will be on the receiving end of this genocide.
If Eren does not destroy literally everyone single remnant of humanity beyond Paradis, wether it will take a decade, century or even longer, they will eventually scramble, organise and retaliate.

If peace between Marley and Paradis is not an option, Zeke's plan was probably the only correct one. But now it is too late for that.

Just perfect analysis
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Isn’t a nationalist just someone’s who’s at least slightly xenophobic? I’m curious as to the people who would self identify as a nationalist. Also I get supporting the Jaegerists because the protagonist of the show is Eren Jaeger but if you genuinely do support them for policy reasons then that’s just supporting mass genocide.


yes Onyankopon said it himself

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Just let me watch the fucking show in peace


Amen to that.

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