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Lelouch0202 said: If we are to somehow assume that these events are 'predestined' to happen the way we see it in the show, then this would mean Eren is incapable of ever achieving the freedom he wants because of the fact that everything that happened was predetermined making the entire show a contradiction to it's own theme of freedom. Like the other fellow said, that's the point. The whole irony behind the show is just that. Also it really makes more sense as you progress even further into the story. |
| A very powerful episode. Zeke takes Eren into the past to try and show him why his worldview is wrong, but only ends up strengthening his resolve, and actually witnesses Eren manipulating the past. |
| just epic, absolute awesome episode |
| Attack Titan transcending time, love how that pretty much explains how Kruger know about Mikasa and Armin |
| What the f is happening??? Grisha Attack Titan can see Eren Future memories and Future Eren using the Founding Titan showing the memories he wanted to manipulate Grisha??? what a plot twist indeed... |
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Dreystah said: One thing I do not understand is that Eren would have to get the Attack Titan in the first place in order to communicate with Grisha. The way they portray it made it seem like Eren would never have gotten the power of the titans if he didn't convince his Father to kill the royal family in that moment. What came first, the chicken or the egg? I'm sure there is an explanation for this though, can anyone help me out, maybe manga readers? If it's a spoiler for future episodes then just ignore me. I think that just considering everything to be predestined such that Eren was always going to manipulate his father through the combined powers of the FT and AT pretty much solves that |
| Seems like getting absolutely mind-fucked is a tradition in the Yeager household. |
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zeromaverick said: Looks like the garbage ending is inevitable. Here I'm expecting something different. Meh, 1/10. mariofzr said: I can't believe how well written this series is. It's a complete Masterpiece. Isayama has to be a total genius. I didn't believe i could love AoT even more, but i was wrong. The duality of MAL users |
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samashi20 said: EDIT: I realized something. Since Grisha can see the memories of Eren, he was probably driven by his will to be free/his hatred towards the royals. Eren being there in the frame kind of tripped me into thinking that he was physically there with Grisha when he was about to take the lives of the royals, but not necessarily. However, I believe that Eren's rage was communicated to Grisha through the powers of the Attack Titan and the father was compelled by those emotions to do whatever he ended up doing. I'm literally just as shocked as Zeke right now. We have all been played by the Tatakae bastard lol. Holy hell, yeah. I remember that in s3p2 Eren could feel the same emotions Grisha felt in the memories, when he was crying (ep “That Day” and/or “Attack Titan”). So now that we know that Grisha could see the memories from the future, he could probably feel them too…like Eren’s rage… omfg |
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Paul_Foreign said: samashi20 said: EDIT: I realized something. Since Grisha can see the memories of Eren, he was probably driven by his will to be free/his hatred towards the royals. Eren being there in the frame kind of tripped me into thinking that he was physically there with Grisha when he was about to take the lives of the royals, but not necessarily. However, I believe that Eren's rage was communicated to Grisha through the powers of the Attack Titan and the father was compelled by those emotions to do whatever he ended up doing. I'm literally just as shocked as Zeke right now. We have all been played by the Tatakae bastard lol. Holy hell, yeah. I remember that in s3p2 Eren could feel the same emotions Grisha felt in the memories, when he was crying (ep “That Day” and/or “Attack Titan”). So now that we know that Grisha could see the memories from the future, he could probably feel them too…like Eren’s rage… omfg Yup, that's exactly the episode I thought of. I remember Eren said something along the lines of "I could see his memories as if I'm reliving them". And I also thought of that scene where Eren woke up crying because he experienced the emotions and trauma his dad went through. So he we apply the same logic to the future memories, then Grisha too felt Eren's emotions when he saw his memories, and one of them is his rage/hatred. |
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| FINALLY MOPPER BROT DA HEAT 🔥🔥🔥🔥 cuz no action looool |
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| this is just insane |
| Great episode, definitely one of the best of season 4. Shit was intense af |
| Absolute perfection. I couldn't have imagine a better way to adapt this part of Attack on Titan's story. I tip my hat and thank you, MAPPA! :) |
| Those lines of eren gives me the chills |
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| Absolute masterpiece of an episode. Grisha'a VA was amazing. |
| Insane, one of the greatest episodes in this series imo. The amount of feelings I had can't even put into words, it was wild. |
| ah yes. eren didn't tainted by his father. but rather the eren kruger/attack titan. that was pretty epic that zeke knew that eren wasn't brainwashed, eren made it happen sacrificed his mother and other peoples live. 5/5 |
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| Shingeki is back at it again, another 10/10 episode like completely insane! I never thought a "memories review" could become so intense, with Eren becoming basically the GOD now i assume since he took control of the Ymir's world. And the whole scene where Eren's energy slowly started overflowing from him, and then he explodes and u get rekt And this whole episode, all of those memories, i am speechless... What a throwback! So Eren's titan is the only one who can see the future, like whaaaaaaaaat, so what did he see there, now that's the question. And the whole Grisha scenes with Eren and Zeke, damn! What a masterpiece this is! Can't wait for next week! |
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| Excellent episode. MAPPA is really on fire with this part. |
| So fucking good. The full details in the past were finally revealed. Next episode will be great too. What a masterpiece man. |
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Eren's eyes shoe the scene. Like how zeke bring irony. |
| I like how they put just the flashbacks in one episode. Baby Eren has an actual baby's voice, and not a cringey woman pretending to be a child. So, I hope people appreciate that. It adds so much realism and immersion. The people probably had to make a baby cry, and listen to it for hours while recording it! The OP played at just the right moment! If I am not wrong, that was where the first flashback chapter ended in the manga. I saw some old shots from season 1, but I really appreciate the way they didn't reuse all the older drawings. The art style has changed too much. Reusing older shots would create a weird disconnect. I can see a later event foreshadowed very subtly. It was done in the manga too, but the anime did it better. Very slightly better. Grisha's words were barely understandable when he cried. So, that's good, I think. He didn't do the weird "ku ku ku" when crying like other male anime characters seem to do. Did anyone notice how far Rod Reiss had run? lol. That man is truly a coward! The next episode's title (Nisen nen-mae no Kimi kara/From You of 2000 years ago) references the title of episode 1 (Nisen Nen-go no Kimi e/To You of 2000 years later). I wonder how the anime will execute that. The name Grisha makes me think of Sun Summoner and Corporalki and stuff now. lol |
| Im sure other people have noticed this and pointed it out before me, but Zeke's and Eren's faces are drawn in completely different styles and now that I've noticed it, its not gonna stop bothering me |
| Most of my points have been covered by others by now. But I'll say this: I was so shocked to see Eren fuming with rage in the cave. Holy shit. He was so passive and resigned throughout the entire 4th season. Frieda was going to sit passively by and let him die and his mom die. Awww hell nah. We get 9 year old Eren about to stab some b*tches up in here. He's still on his side. He's still got the rage. There ain't no way he's going out quiet. |
| what an episode that was the animation and the osts were perfect cant wait for the next ep |
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Jockeys said: Check @I_Am_Freeballing thread for these type of info.So next episode Will adapt only chapter 122? |
| "I think I wanted to attack something. Like betraying people or hurting people. And, well, it's not exactly nice, but hurting the readers too... In all honestly, I feel that's what I really wanted to do. For me, as a reader, when I think, "this manga will remain in my heart," it means, for example, it phenomenally hurt me: It's those kinds of experiences I'm after." - Pajime Hisayama (My favourite hurting author). |
Peeti said: Jockeys said: Check @I_Am_Freeballing thread for these type of info.So next episode Will adapt only chapter 122? WTF? I can actually understand what you're saying. This isn't the real Peeti. |
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