RareWRLD said: DeonX said: I think it's more because of the general world building. For the most part of Naruto, the world was a cool and dangerous place, with countries conflicting, with criminals and mercenaries etc. Meanwhile, in Boruto, it's a happy life of pretending to be ninja. It's just goofy for the most part, because half of Boruto's storylines just treat the legacy of old characters and places badlyI agree. Some sad moments hit like a truck and nobody can deny that. I don't have a problem with the show itself but with the fillers and the people who don't consider watching the fillers and giving it a 10. I'm sure if these naruto fans had to watch 200 episodes of filler they would reconsider if the say can be called a 10 after that. The same goes for Boruto. People hate it for its inconsistency and fillers but nobody says this about Naruto cause of the nostalgic factor I presume? Oh yeah, I get it. Even I wouldn't want my fav. anime to get a sequel just for the sake of it. They are pretty much saying whatever Naruto did in the show was in vain since the villains/antagonists in Boruto haven't made it possible to achieve peace. |
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| Skipping fillers and skipping the bad parts is absolutely not comparable. Due to the nature of a filler it's not only going to suffer in writing due to basically being outsourced since they're never written by the original author, but also will have absolutely no bearing on the show as a whole. The bad parts on the other hand are still part of the show and due have bearing on the plot, so unlike fillers, the bad parts aren't optional. I won't say the show doesn't deserve criticism for it, but the statements aren't comparable. |
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kusharin_RD said: bruh since when a shounen can be a 10/10 anyway. and also skipping the fillers isn't the same as skipping the bad parts, the former (fillers) don't add anything to the story they are there just to "fill" the time but the latter (bad parts) are cannon but something is wrong with'em and beside all of this, who TF said shippuden is a 10/10 ? life-lesson: if you see a wrong opinion to this extent either you fight with the person or ignore him. but dont quote him! Well looks like you haven't met a lot of Narutards lol. Also, I'm no shounen expert or anime expert in general but how can you say a shounen can never be a 10/10? |
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OnionKnightRises said: Skipping fillers and skipping the bad parts is absolutely not comparable. Due to the nature of a filler it's not only going to suffer in writing due to basically being outsourced since they're never written by the original author, but also will have absolutely no bearing on the show as a whole. The bad parts on the other hand are still part of the show and due have bearing on the plot, so unlike fillers, the bad parts aren't optional. I won't say the show doesn't deserve criticism for it, but the statements aren't comparable. Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. But like when it was airing people had to watch the fillers right? 1 ep a week and that too filler would have sucked hard imo. |
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| The only people that consider Naruto Shippuden a 10/10 are those who only have watched mainstream anime or those who rate only on the basis of their enjoyment. For example, I am someone who had given Shippuden a 10 as it was the first anime I have seen but as I watched more anime I realized that there are quite a bit of anime that are better than Naruto (still have given Shippuden a 9 as it was my first anime). |
| Some rate their anime the same way we rate ours, some do not. It's just a matter of perspective and I don't get bothered much about it. |
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DeonX said: To all the people who say "Just skip the fillers", No it doesn't work that way. It's literally the same as saying skip the bad parts of the show so that it becomes good. Also even without the fillers it' still not a 10 IMO and I've not even started with the plot holes. Thoughts? Fillers are not an original material. Comparing it with "skip the bad parts" is not apple to apple. Anyways, I rarely see people say Shippuden was perfect, and there's no perfect anime series either. |
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Xxloop said: Yeah but the origal naruto before shippuden was pretty good though. Liked it better tbh Agreed. Og naruto was way better than shippuden. Shippuden had better fights tho. |
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N_J_N said: The only people that consider Naruto Shippuden a 10/10 are those who only have watched mainstream anime or those who rate only on the basis of their enjoyment. For example, I am someone who had given Shippuden a 10 as it was the first anime I have seen but as I watched more anime I realized that there are quite a bit of anime that are better than Naruto (still have given Shippuden a 9 as it was my first anime). I agree. The nostalgia from your first anime goes a long way. Anyways thanks for the answer. |
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DeonX said: lKingDGl said: Not everyone hate fillers, I personally love fillers (whatever they are) because those make me see more of the character, world, or even the anime itself (even if they are not canon). Because I love anime. So you're saying you've seen every filler the Naruto series has to offer? Damn you're a masochist if you love them all. Also, more than half of the filler arc has new filler characters for a span of a few episodes which have literally no role in the storyline so I don't see how it helps. Also, filler/movies in fact ruin the world-building since it's not canon. You can easily see how some filler antagonists are so overpowered that they are literally on par (if not stronger) than the actual canon antagonists. I don't understand how can you endure those god-awful fillers but not the ending of the AOT manga lol. You see what I'm saying? every naruto filler? yes i watched them. i've no problem being called masochist. no role in the storyline? why should i care i just love seeing more naruto story that's why i love it. and no it didn't ruin world building because it is not canon... and with filler antagonists overpowered, that makes it even better bruh, i like overpowered character. endure it? not precisely. I can't endure something that i don't need to endure. Yes i know what you said about AoT because you might see my list. But the thing is i don't like the ending because lack of explanation. And if the anime explain that with filler then I love it. You know what I mean? |
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VVBROS said: I base my ratings on enjoyment and since Im a casual viewer I don't care about some flaws, but I will admit it has more fillers than my fucking IQ Also people have different tastes: Ik the feeling where you think "how can someone like this" but then I remember that there will always be one person who will like this, the world has a big amount of people and with that a big amount of tastes I agree lol. Also you aren't necessarily wrong about the IQ thing. Shippuden has like 150-200 filler/semi-filler eps so yeah that's quite a bunch |
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lKingDGl said: DeonX said: So you're saying you've seen every filler the Naruto series has to offer? Damn you're a masochist if you love them all. Also, more than half of the filler arc has new filler characters for a span of a few episodes which have literally no role in the storyline so I don't see how it helps. Also, filler/movies in fact ruin the world-building since it's not canon. You can easily see how some filler antagonists are so overpowered that they are literally on par (if not stronger) than the actual canon antagonists. I don't understand how can you endure those god-awful fillers but not the ending of the AOT manga lol. You see what I'm saying? every naruto filler? yes i watched them. i've no problem being called masochist. no role in the storyline? why should i care i just love seeing more naruto story that's why i love it. and no it didn't ruin world building because it is not canon... and with filler antagonists overpowered, that makes it even better bruh, i like overpowered character. endure it? not precisely. I can't endure something that i don't need to endure. Yes i know what you said about AoT because you might see my list. But the thing is i don't like the ending because lack of explanation. And if the anime explain that with filler then I love it. You know what I mean? Pretty much boils down to one thing. It's all about perspective. I'm glad I made this thread. Helped me revert back to the person who doesn't care what others think and rate based on enjoyment. Thanks :) |
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DeonX said: lKingDGl said: every naruto filler? yes i watched them. i've no problem being called masochist. no role in the storyline? why should i care i just love seeing more naruto story that's why i love it. and no it didn't ruin world building because it is not canon... and with filler antagonists overpowered, that makes it even better bruh, i like overpowered character. endure it? not precisely. I can't endure something that i don't need to endure. Yes i know what you said about AoT because you might see my list. But the thing is i don't like the ending because lack of explanation. And if the anime explain that with filler then I love it. You know what I mean? Pretty much boils down to one thing. It's all about perspective. I'm glad I made this thread. Helped me revert back to the person who doesn't care what others think and rate based on enjoyment. Thanks :) Yes, I absolutely agree about perspective. Your welcome. |
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| so I watched it without the filter and its an amazing anime, one of those animes that I wish I could rewatch without knowing what happens.. w/o filters its amazing with filters not so hot. |
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DeonX said: So I'm currently watching Shippuden and I can't see how some people can say it's a perfect 10/10 with no flaws. I mean have they even considered the fillers?!? To all the people who say "Just skip the fillers", No it doesn't work that way. It's literally the same as saying skip the bad parts of the show so that it becomes good. Also even without the fillers it' still not a 10 IMO and I've not even started with the plot holes. Thoughts? Not to spoil anything, but even the basic plot has problems towards the end, which is just HUH factor. Naruto as a show is a 6-7/10 show with 10/10 moments, that's how I see it. |
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DeonX said: Althaf_ said: Never seen anyone asserting that Shippuden is a 10/10 to be honest. My man you're hella lucky tbh. I've seen some fans go batshit crazy. As a fellow Indian you should be knowing that the Indian anime community is filled with narutards Every mainstream Action shonen only fan is deep-down a Narutard |
| "Did you forget already? In my word the color "red" doesn't exist. These must be...my tears. Ever since I woke up from my coma...I think I've been waiting for this very moment. You'd do well to remember this, Maya. The only time a lawyer can cry is when it's all over." (Ace Attorney T&T: Bridge to the Turnabout) "I'm my worst critic." (Kendrick Lamar) |
DeonX said: Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up. But like when it was airing people had to watch the fillers right? 1 ep a week and that too filler would have sucked hard imo. Sure, I was actually one of those people, but this is no longer the case. If you had to deal with waiting till all these filler were over, then yeah I would say that's a bit more comparable. It makes sense for people to say skip the fillers now compared to back then when you not only couldn't skip them, but also most of us barely even knew what a filler was at that point. Waiting week to week hoping the next episode is actually worth watching and being disappointed over and over is not something people can replicate anymore since the episodes have already aired, so it's fine for people to recommend skipping them. |
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TheAceAttorney said: DeonX said: So I'm currently watching Shippuden and I can't see how some people can say it's a perfect 10/10 with no flaws. I mean have they even considered the fillers?!? To all the people who say "Just skip the fillers", No it doesn't work that way. It's literally the same as saying skip the bad parts of the show so that it becomes good. Also even without the fillers it' still not a 10 IMO and I've not even started with the plot holes. Thoughts? Not to spoil anything, but even the basic plot has problems towards the end, which is just HUH factor. Naruto as a show is a 6-7/10 show with 10/10 moments, that's how I see it. Nah it's ok lol I'm pretty much towards the end and I know there are a lot of wtf moments that don't make sense. Plot-wise I'd give it a 7 without the fillers. Including the fillers, I'm giving it a 6. I do agree with the moments. Some moments do hit you like a truck. |
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DeonX said: So I'm currently watching Shippuden and I can't see how some people can say it's a perfect 10/10 with no flaws. I mean have they even considered the fillers?!? To all the people who say "Just skip the fillers", No it doesn't work that way. It's literally the same as saying skip the bad parts of the show so that it becomes good. Also even without the fillers it' still not a 10 IMO and I've not even started with the plot holes. Thoughts? It's definitely not "the same". By definition a filler won't have impact on the plot and isn't required to watch it to understand the development of the story. A "bad part", on the other hand, does have impact and you have to watch it in order to achieve the same. The filler is skippable with no cost at all, the "bad part" is not, unless you are willing to incur a cost. It's for this reason that yes, if fillers are entirely skippable, you do no wrong in not letting them influence your score of the show as a whole. |
SoldierDream said: DeonX said: So I'm currently watching Shippuden and I can't see how some people can say it's a perfect 10/10 with no flaws. I mean have they even considered the fillers?!? To all the people who say "Just skip the fillers", No it doesn't work that way. It's literally the same as saying skip the bad parts of the show so that it becomes good. Also even without the fillers it' still not a 10 IMO and I've not even started with the plot holes. Thoughts? It's definitely not "the same". By definition a filler won't have impact on the plot and isn't required to watch it to understand the development of the story. A "bad part", on the other hand, does have impact and you have to watch it in order to achieve the same. The filler is skippable with no cost at all, the "bad part" is not, unless you are willing to incur a cost. It's for this reason that yes, if fillers are entirely skippable, you do no wrong in not letting them influence your score of the show as a whole. yeah but you know about the mixed fillers too right? And also the fillerish flashbacks and stuff |
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| Its 7/10 at most if I am being generous, about 5/10 if I am critical. |
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DeonX said: So I'm currently watching Shippuden and I can't see how some people can say it's a perfect 10/10 with no flaws. I mean have they even considered the fillers?!? To all the people who say "Just skip the fillers", No it doesn't work that way. It's literally the same as saying skip the bad parts of the show so that it becomes good. Also even without the fillers it' still not a 10 IMO and I've not even started with the plot holes. Thoughts? If you skip everything that is bad surely what's left is only good . So with that flawless execution of logic it's a 10/10 Pretty sure whoever told you it's a 10 is just a bit fanboying . People do that all the time for all sorts of anime. No big deal |
| 10/10 obviously doesnt mean no flaws. There is no in between of 9/10 and 10/10.. sometimes u give something thats near perfect a 10/10. People dont include filler into their consideration for their rating like some people tend to forget the awful chimera arc of hxh. Sometimes u just try to see it in a more positive light |
| I freakin love Naruto to bits But yeah, it's hella flawed. Don't matter though, cause people love it for what it is |
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| Shippuden was really good up until the end of the pain arc after that it goes downhill. 10/10 doesn't mean anime is perfect it means that you enjoyed it the most. |
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| Just skip the fillers bro, don't be a completist. Isn't like if the people will care for the number of episodes in your list I even would like to say that I skipped the majority fillers, if I had not caught the weekly episodes 😕 |
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| I love Naruto series and i also gave Naruto a 10/10. but Shippuden was like meh for me. it started off quite well with the akatsuki arc and stuff, but things started to went bad when the great war began. if your consider Shippuden uptil the war, it was a definite 10/10. considering the war it was a 6 or 7/10 though. |
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