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Is it gae?
May 18, 2021 5:20 AM
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Look.
However, because of the goddess's mischief, he has turned into a peerless beautiful girl?!

So if the guy fall inlove with his bestfriend, is that gae? It should not coz he transformed into a girl. But he was a guy before so therefore its still gae. This is different from the question 'are traps gae'. Maybe Ill hit the library later to find look some literatures regarding to this. Also, I was hoping someone here in MAL can provide me some their wisdom.

And btw, what a unique synopsis. A world without Japan is boring. Thank you Japan for the entertainment.

P.S. Personally I think its not gay. I believe that if he looks and acts like a girl, its not gay. I mean, if Luka (from Steins Gate) confessed to you, you wouldnt try dating him?
May 18, 2021 5:37 PM
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First thing that came to mind to me was if it was gay too. Tbh i think it is. The thought of there being an older man in that girl will always be there. But oficcialy it aint gay.
Jul 8, 2021 10:35 AM
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the gender bender tag makes it okay
Jul 24, 2021 9:58 AM
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No, but maybe a little because their feelings may have started before they got isekai'd, when they were both dudes.
Oct 18, 2021 6:36 PM
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Do I have to say it again? If there's 2 hole to penetrate on the bottom part then it's not gay
Nov 11, 2021 6:53 AM
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Yes'nt ( 15 characters limit )
Nov 12, 2021 9:15 PM
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It doesn't matter seiyuu MAO is here👉👈
Nov 18, 2021 6:42 AM
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If he regains his body back to becomes a man and they’re in love, it would be gay right? As for the actual story, I believe it’s not because there’s no shounen ai tag, which the creators would specify. Or romance lol
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Dec 2, 2021 11:35 PM
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Gender swap is always gay. Definitely skipping this one.
Dec 5, 2021 9:44 AM
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NO, as a person who avoid any anime that includes gay theme at all cost no matter how good it is likes yuri on ice or banana fish(except beastar or golden kamuy bc both only used it as a joke), i've been reading the manga until around 80+ ch and surprisingly i really enjoy it.
the story pretty much about comedic relation between the gender bender guy that got 'blessed' by the goddess and have exceptional beauty that can make any male fall in love with her and the glasses guy that are natural born ikemen. bc of that the struggle beetween both of them to keep their friendship at all cost are really hillarious.
Dec 12, 2021 10:04 AM

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I think it's open to interpretation. People who don't like gay stuff will say no as it's very subtle, people who like it or don't mind it will find more than hints.
Dec 14, 2021 12:23 PM

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yes it is, IT'S AN OLD MAN INSIDE A GIRL, HE DOESN'T STOP BEING AN OLD MAN... as much as you deny it, he's not a trap or a girl,he is a old Man.

Dec 19, 2021 10:14 PM

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Yes and no.

While his body is now 101% female, his heart and brain is still a 30 years old man.

But seriously, being 30 is already old?
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Dec 20, 2021 9:53 AM

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Based on the PVs, sounds like a yes lol.
Dec 21, 2021 9:32 AM
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Gender preferences are mostly genetic so spending enough time in a opposite body is going to change you over time. From what I've seen of the manga this is a fantasy action rom-com.
Dec 22, 2021 6:23 PM

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Sex change is a perfectly natural occurrence after which the originally biologically males will change their behaviour to that of a female. Since adaptability is even more pronounced in our own species, it's not unreasonable for us to expect that a guy in a girl's body will become a girl both in and outside soon enough. And if *she* is not a lesbian by then, then it isn't gay.

Another aspect to consider is reincarnation, which fits quite well in the isekai theme. If it's true, then our soul is permanent, unlike our gender which is prone to change each time we reborn. Therefore, it certainly isn't gay if a woman who was male in her past life loves a man, and vice versa.

=> It ain't gae imho.
hainqDec 22, 2021 6:31 PM
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Dec 29, 2021 12:36 AM

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doesn't look like they focus on BL so im fine as long as its funny.

i think its just gonna be ridiculous like Back Street Girls
Dec 30, 2021 4:02 AM
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Gazz said:
Look.
However, because of the goddess's mischief, he has turned into a peerless beautiful girl?!

So if the guy fall inlove with his bestfriend, is that gae? It should not coz he transformed into a girl. But he was a guy before so therefore its still gae. This is different from the question 'are traps gae'. Maybe Ill hit the library later to find look some literatures regarding to this. Also, I was hoping someone here in MAL can provide me some their wisdom.

And btw, what a unique synopsis. A world without Japan is boring. Thank you Japan for the entertainment.

P.S. Personally I think its not gay. I believe that if he looks and acts like a girl, its not gay. I mean, if Luka (from Steins Gate) confessed to you, you wouldnt try dating him?

Both, it's gay for the genderbender guy, but not for the friend.
Think about it, if you like your friend it has nothing to do with your own body, but if you like a 100% girl is absolutely not gay... weird as F$#% because he was your friend, but it's not gay
Jan 7, 2022 1:37 AM
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It's a split on it. The one turned into the chick is as straight as a pretzel. The unchanged one is straighter than the pole the first one dances on.
Jan 8, 2022 2:19 PM
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its pretty gay and its amazing
Jan 8, 2022 4:13 PM

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Absurdo_N said:
yes it is, IT'S AN OLD MAN INSIDE A GIRL, HE DOESN'T STOP BEING AN OLD MAN... as much as you deny it, he's not a trap or a girl,he is a old Man.

WAIT THE LOLI IN YOJOU SENKI WAS A GUY???? NANI???
Jan 8, 2022 4:17 PM

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YES.

Jan 10, 2022 6:53 PM

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If it's not gay, what was it made for?..
Jan 10, 2022 8:22 PM

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Nah.
Their situation is more on the hilarious side. Elaborating would be spoilers so I won't say anything.

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Jan 11, 2022 12:27 AM

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Mimimimimitan said:
hainq said:
Sex change is a perfectly natural occurrence after which the originally biologically males will change their behaviour to that of a female. Since adaptability is even more pronounced in our own species, it's not unreasonable for us to expect that a guy in a girl's body will become a girl both in and outside soon enough. And if *she* is not a lesbian by then, then it isn't gay.

Another aspect to consider is reincarnation, which fits quite well in the isekai theme. If it's true, then our soul is permanent, unlike our gender which is prone to change each time we reborn. Therefore, it certainly isn't gay if a woman who was male in her past life loves a man, and vice versa.

=> It ain't gae imho.



In this case the ''guy' is pulled out of his own existence and ends up being a girl in another world. Nothing natural about that occurrence and I doubt something like that will happen to us in our lifetime. IF reincarnation is a real thing, the majority of people have no recollection of their previous life.

He needed to have some sort of gay/female tendencies or thoughts to become female in mind after this change, adapting to his new body doesn't necessarily constrict him to having 'heterosexual' relationships in this new situation. He can still be a 30 years old man lusting on women, even in this female body.

A good example of that is Rimuru from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime dies as a 39 years old male and morphs himself into a female (Shizu-like), but still shows attraction to females as he leers at their bodies quite often but shows zero attraction to men.

Sex change as you're describing is something that often starts during childhood, gradually grows stronger as they age and usually comes to a 'conclusion' of sorts around the age of 16-20.

I doubt a man at the age of 30 or over, with all the life experiences and heterosexual preferences can suddenly fully commit to be a heterosexual woman. Perhaps over the course of time (10-30 years or more) that this tendency can shift but definitely not in the beginning.


Actually, the case of sex change doesn’t necessarily need to start during childhood like you said. I’ve watched a BBC documentary about a fish species that will actively change their gender whenever necessary (for example when the population of a gender is significantly lower than another).

In the case of Rimuru, he didn’t change into a female body like you said. Yes his new human form sure takes after Shizu, but that’s all since it doesn’t contain any distinct sexual dimorphism. It even lacks a male reproductive organ, the fact Rimuru often laments at.
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Jan 11, 2022 1:40 AM

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Gazz said:
Look.
However, because of the goddess's mischief, he has turned into a peerless beautiful girl?!

So if the guy fall inlove with his bestfriend, is that gae? It should not coz he transformed into a girl. But he was a guy before so therefore its still gae. This is different from the question 'are traps gae'. Maybe Ill hit the library later to find look some literatures regarding to this. Also, I was hoping someone here in MAL can provide me some their wisdom.

And btw, what a unique synopsis. A world without Japan is boring. Thank you Japan for the entertainment.

P.S. Personally I think its not gay. I believe that if he looks and acts like a girl, its not gay. I mean, if Luka (from Steins Gate) confessed to you, you wouldnt try dating him?


its only gay if he still thinks of himself as a guy and its not really gay for glasses guy since he never had any inclinations or inhibitions of doing something like this before his best friend got turned into a girl

so i'm going to say this from the perspective that this is about Hinata's perspective its only gay if he thinks of himself as a man while being attracted to his friend
Jan 11, 2022 9:57 AM

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Mimimimimitan said:
hainq said:
Sex change is a perfectly natural occurrence after which the originally biologically males will change their behaviour to that of a female. Since adaptability is even more pronounced in our own species, it's not unreasonable for us to expect that a guy in a girl's body will become a girl both in and outside soon enough. And if *she* is not a lesbian by then, then it isn't gay.

Another aspect to consider is reincarnation, which fits quite well in the isekai theme. If it's true, then our soul is permanent, unlike our gender which is prone to change each time we reborn. Therefore, it certainly isn't gay if a woman who was male in her past life loves a man, and vice versa.

=> It ain't gae imho.



In this case the ''guy' is pulled out of his own existence and ends up being a girl in another world. Nothing natural about that occurrence and I doubt something like that will happen to us in our lifetime. IF reincarnation is a real thing, the majority of people have no recollection of their previous life.

He needed to have some sort of gay/female tendencies or thoughts to become female in mind after this change, adapting to his new body doesn't necessarily constrict him to having 'heterosexual' relationships in this new situation. He can still be a 30 years old man lusting on women, even in this female body.

A good example of that is Rimuru from That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime dies as a 39 years old male and morphs himself into a female (Shizu-like), but still shows attraction to females as he leers at their bodies quite often but shows zero attraction to men.

Sex change as you're describing is something that often starts during childhood, gradually grows stronger as they age and usually comes to a 'conclusion' of sorts around the age of 16-20.

I doubt a man at the age of 30 or over, with all the life experiences and heterosexual preferences can suddenly fully commit to be a heterosexual woman. Perhaps over the course of time (10-30 years or more) that this tendency can shift but definitely not in the beginning.


You’re completely wrong about Rimuru. He may resemble shizu but his body isn’t female or male. He made it obvious though that he wishes it was a male body, hence why Rimuru is referred as a “he” throughout the series.
Jan 11, 2022 12:51 PM
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“It’s BL with extra steps”
Jan 11, 2022 12:51 PM
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“It’s BL with extra steps”
Jan 11, 2022 1:00 PM
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not if you close your eyes, or it's April Fool's
Jan 11, 2022 3:50 PM

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Zaboono said:
“It’s BL with extra steps”


LMAO, pretty much on point. I don't know I'm pretty split on this one. Looks funny and will continue but when I think about the anime with the old man in the little girl's body, its a old man to me regardless of how she speaks and behaves.

I guess its more about where do you draw the line in gender bending in made belief or the reality of their gender.
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hainq said:
Sex change is a perfectly natural occurrence after which the originally biologically males will change their behaviour to that of a female. Since adaptability is even more pronounced in our own species, it's not unreasonable for us to expect that a guy in a girl's body will become a girl both in and outside soon enough. And if *she* is not a lesbian by then, then it isn't gay.

Another aspect to consider is reincarnation, which fits quite well in the isekai theme. If it's true, then our soul is permanent, unlike our gender which is prone to change each time we reborn. Therefore, it certainly isn't gay if a woman who was male in her past life loves a man, and vice versa.

=> It ain't gae imho.


I agree with this statement the soul remains the same, but the gender always changes.

I think we should revaluate the question to:

"If the guy reincarnates/changes (biologically 100%) as a girl but retains their memories as a guy is it gay?", Next is "If the guy reincarnates/changes (biologically 100%) as a girl but does not retain their memories and starts from scratch is it gay then?"

I think at this point we may have something called "The duality of humanity" with double standards regardless.
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Jan 12, 2022 1:35 AM
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Gazz said:
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However, because of the goddess's mischief, he has turned into a peerless beautiful girl?!

So if the guy fall inlove with his bestfriend, is that gae? It should not coz he transformed into a girl. But he was a guy before so therefore its still gae. This is different from the question 'are traps gae'. Maybe Ill hit the library later to find look some literatures regarding to this. Also, I was hoping someone here in MAL can provide me some their wisdom.

And btw, what a unique synopsis. A world without Japan is boring. Thank you Japan for the entertainment.

P.S. Personally I think its not gay. I believe that if he looks and acts like a girl, its not gay. I mean, if Luka (from Steins Gate) confessed to you, you wouldnt try dating him?


you miss the point that the goddess tecnically remove gay, he now a girl real girl, i repeat turn into real girls for this comedy show lol
Jan 12, 2022 1:36 AM

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This is a very good question. I think it is gay. Firstly, there are only two genders: Male and Female. However, this only applies to Biological genders. Romance is an emotional thing. Although Hinata transformed into a female (Biologically), inside the body, it's still a male's consciousness. Even IF Tsukasa try to treat Hinata as if she is a girl, Hinata "him"self also tries to somewhat flirt with Tsukasa in the first episode although "he" is aware that he is a male in the soul and Tsuka is also a male. I also have a male friend IRL who is bisexual and is dating a person with a female body who claims she is identified as a male. Their relationship is a gay relationship and they admit that themselves. Ignoring the fact it's a sexual orientation anime, just by describing their relationship, I think it's a gay relationship. (Subjective opinion but trying to provide objective evidence)
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Technically no, but actually yes.
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It's Schrodinger's Cat. Jinguji seems to be more clear cut gay but looks like Tachibana didn't feel the same way when he was in a man's body but is all of a sudden attracted after turning into a girl despite still being a man at heart.
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This is a very good question. I think it is gay. Firstly, there are only two genders: Male and Female. However, this only applies to Biological genders. Romance is an emotional thing. Although Hinata transformed into a female (Biologically), inside the body, it's still a male's consciousness. Even IF Tsukasa try to treat Hinata as if she is a girl, Hinata "him"self also tries to somewhat flirt with Tsukasa in the first episode although "he" is aware that he is a male in the soul and Tsuka is also a male. I also have a male friend IRL who is bisexual and is dating a person with a female body who claims she is identified as a male. Their relationship is a gay relationship and they admit that themselves. Therefore, I think this anime is Yaoi.
It isn't bad how they identify that type of relationship, but sexual orientation is only talking about attraction to biological sex, not sexual identity.

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Rachiba said:
ZimTheKing said:
This is a very good question. I think it is gay. Firstly, there are only two genders: Male and Female. However, this only applies to Biological genders. Romance is an emotional thing. Although Hinata transformed into a female (Biologically), inside the body, it's still a male's consciousness. Even IF Tsukasa try to treat Hinata as if she is a girl, Hinata "him"self also tries to somewhat flirt with Tsukasa in the first episode although "he" is aware that he is a male in the soul and Tsuka is also a male. I also have a male friend IRL who is bisexual and is dating a person with a female body who claims she is identified as a male. Their relationship is a gay relationship and they admit that themselves. Therefore, I think this anime is Yaoi.
It isn't bad how they identify that type of relationship, but sexual orientation is only talking about attraction to biological sex, not sexual identity.


yeah, I think your right. I actually think this show is pretty good for now.
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ZimTheKing said:
Rachiba said:
It isn't bad how they identify that type of relationship, but sexual orientation is only talking about attraction to biological sex, not sexual identity.


yeah, I think your right. I actually think this show is pretty good for now.
Me too, I'm reading the manga and it's really fun.

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Jan 13, 2022 1:29 AM

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If this is gay, then this (349146) is gay!

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It's gay and it's not gay. For the guy inside the girl, he still seems to self identify as his non-isekai self, a man, as he sees his friend. But the non changing guy probably doesn't see it as gay. If they fell in love and the girl changed back into a guy, the magic would be gone.

Apr 6, 2022 11:57 PM

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I guess we can leave it 50/50 from Tsukasa point of view, I think it is gay mentally knowing on the inside of the girl is a man but it is straight physically cause the body is a female.

From Hinata point of view, I think it is 100% straight.
Apr 15, 2022 1:49 AM

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I think it's gay. Nothing wrong with that, they have my support to go at it full homosexual.
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I think it's gay. Nothing wrong with that, they have my support to go at it full homosexual.


If the two of them get charmed at the same, they will go full homo.

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