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Dec 4, 2021 7:34 PM
#51
kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... |
Dec 4, 2021 8:09 PM
#52
GalacticSamurai said: nah I like this animation more than Part 4 & 5’s.Ginpin said: No bud as you can clearly see by watching this 12 episodes of part 6 that the animation of this part is really sucked as* compared to part 4 and 5 also the previous aside from okiysh cgi the 2d animation has so many flaws in it and 12 episodes so many great stand fights but not even a one fight with sakuga.on the other hand part 5 just blows from the starting with the amazing giorno vs buchrati fight. you have any answers about this ??Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. |
Dec 4, 2021 8:10 PM
#53
Tigasferu said: no JoJo part was terrible tho 😂 kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... Oh wait, this is MyAnimeList which is filled with snobs & elitists who think their opinion is better than everyone else’s so I guess I’m not surprised. |
Dec 4, 2021 8:35 PM
#54
Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... My bad, sorry for misreading your word. Anyways, it's indeed part 6 has fast paced in comparison to other parts but I personally think it doesn't really that messed for 47 chapters adapt into 12 episodes. I mean just imagine if DP faithfully adapted the whole 47 pages of the first chapters and all the Highway to Hell arc, it would be extermely boring like the first half of Part 3 and may take 16 - 18 episodes for us to get to the encounter between Jolyne and Pucci. Also, unlike other previous parts getting a weekly release, due to being initially published on Netflix, this time Part 6 gets the batch release of full 12 episodes. Hence, DP might mave to remove some contents from the original Manga to fit into the first release so that people wouldn't lose interest until the next release. |
Dec 5, 2021 3:54 AM
#55
SaberHotMikasa said: Tigasferu said: no JoJo part was terrible tho 😂 kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... Oh wait, this is MyAnimeList which is filled with snobs & elitists who think their opinion is better than everyone else’s so I guess I’m not surprised. Aren't you being entitled to your own opinion right now?... Think about what you say before typing shit down please, so you don't look like an hypocrite. |
Dec 5, 2021 4:05 AM
#56
kizumi91 said: I think it is being adapted properly. One of my biggest pet peeves with earlier parts was that they felt the absolute need to make 95% of the fights two episodes each which seriously bogged down previous parts (Golden Wind not as much actually to be fair) in terms of pacing. Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... My bad, sorry for misreading your word. Anyways, it's indeed part 6 has fast paced in comparison to other parts but I personally think it doesn't really that messed for 47 chapters adapt into 12 episodes. I mean just imagine if DP faithfully adapted the whole 47 pages of the first chapters and all the Highway to Hell arc, it would be extermely boring like the first half of Part 3 and may take 16 - 18 episodes for us to get to the encounter between Jolyne and Pucci. Also, unlike other previous parts getting a weekly release, due to being initially published on Netflix, this time Part 6 gets the batch release of full 12 episodes. Hence, DP might mave to remove some contents from the original Manga to fit into the first release so that people wouldn't lose interest until the next release. I don't think it is a fast paced mess. Maybe fast paced for JoJo standards sure and I say GOOD to that. This part feels like butter compared to previous parts (especially 3 and 4). I honestly can't fathom which fights between Goo Goo Dolls, Highway to Hell, Marilyn Manson, Manhattan Transfer, and/or Foo Fighters would benefit from being longer. Like do we really need to spend an extra episode stopping a guy from offing himself or playing fn catch. (largely in agreement with you) |
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Dec 5, 2021 4:14 AM
#57
kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... My bad, sorry for misreading your word. Anyways, it's indeed part 6 has fast paced in comparison to other parts but I personally think it doesn't really that messed for 47 chapters adapt into 12 episodes. I mean just imagine if DP faithfully adapted the whole 47 pages of the first chapters and all the Highway to Hell arc, it would be extermely boring like the first half of Part 3 and may take 16 - 18 episodes for us to get to the encounter between Jolyne and Pucci. Also, unlike other previous parts getting a weekly release, due to being initially published on Netflix, this time Part 6 gets the batch release of full 12 episodes. Hence, DP might mave to remove some contents from the original Manga to fit into the first release so that people wouldn't lose interest until the next release. I mean, was the fast direction REALLY necessary for some parts? There's some cut dialogue that kind of just makes characters feel bland and out of place. Sure, it would slow down the first cour, but it wouldn't ruin it like Part 3 season one. I get the idea behind not letting the viewer lose interest, it's only natural when you're given such a strict deadline to drop 12 episodes at once. It's just unthinkable that people consider this a right choice by Netflix, they don't realize that Studios go out of their way to prepare things before airing each episode, the weekly deal isn't just about airing, it can bring a lot of fixing when it comes to incosistencies, which are present in a lot of episodes of this first cour. Thank god Netflix loses their rights to JoJo in January, because if they kept going it'd be a shit show, final arc would probably look like a CGI fest, and I believe DP can make it look extremely good if they have proper time, and are not rushed to the point of dropping what could've aired over 3 months in just a single day... Just for the record, I'm not hating on Stone Ocean, simply expressing the fact that it looks substantially worse than Golden Wind, even with the same staff at work. Fingers crossed for a lot of Blu Ray corrections, DP is known for changing a lot of scenes with the Blu Ray releases. |
Dec 5, 2021 9:17 AM
#58
SaberHotMikasa said: did you read what i wrote ? where is sakuga in whole fuck"ng 12 episodes? if you just like the artstyle of this part than i am totally okk with this bc offcourse but saying its better than part 4 and 5 by animation and total quality wise is really dumb. even the stardust crusader part's random stand battle's had the better animation and quality sakuga than this part comparing to 4 and 5 really?GalacticSamurai said: nah I like this animation more than Part 4 & 5’s.Ginpin said: Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. |
Dec 5, 2021 1:30 PM
#59
| I did notice some parts with characters looking weird but it didn't bother me much tbh. I thought the scene where they introduced Weather's stand looked amazing (the music was great too). Edit: reading through another thread, it looks like they had a bad schedule |
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Dec 5, 2021 4:29 PM
#60
| Animation in Stone Ocean while not polished in some places, is still much much better than in your average anime. Just search on sakugabooru, there are few very pretty scenes, and some are still missing from the site. We got really spoiled by part 5, it's the most liked part in Japan so they went ham with it and it looks godlike. Part 6 could certainly look better, because some directors voiced their complaints about not having the time to realize their storyboards, let's just hope they can do it in later parts. |
Dec 5, 2021 4:47 PM
#61
| [quote=kizumi91 message=65106765] Tigasferu said: racers551 said: You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. I think the pacing is actually faster than the manga in some regards. Part 6's manga was the JoJo part that stretched out the most unnecessarily long for me, so I'm happy to see the pacing get reworked. It's been a few years since I've read the manga, but I'm just curious to see if there will be any pacing changes to that extremely long segment with Yo-Yo Ma. Surely I can't be the only one who felt that was particularly dragged out. |
Dec 5, 2021 7:26 PM
#62
| The animation is the most consistent we’ve seen so far, what are people talking about? There’s like several scenes with cgi and they’re all good, overall less still shots going on than part 5, especially 4; and even the character design is more consistent than part 5’s... Are we watching the same show right now? |
Dec 8, 2021 9:07 PM
#63
_Alysha_ said: The one thing and the only thing that monster Digibro, (or whatever the hell he calls himself now) was right about was the quality of part 5 and the tanking of this series' art style quality. I feel like it's the opposite for me. I'm not sure what this Digibro guy was talking about but I feel like part 5 and 6 had better quality in its still frame shots with extra layers of shading, shadows, lighting etc. And Jojo never had good consistent animation anyways. With Araki's art style you have to sacrifice something to have more detailed characters. I mean after the complete fuck up of Killer Queen's down syndrome face when he was first shown on the live release I feel like they went for a different approach on the face quality. |
Dec 9, 2021 12:11 AM
#64
Paja03 said: nope i don't think budget is the problem hereMaybe they are saving budget for the ending, which is from what ive heard, one of the best jojo endings ever. |
Dec 9, 2021 12:20 AM
#65
Tigasferu said: actually kato the current director is a very talented guy he jas stroyboarded many cool sequences in part4 and 5 but a storyboards artist really need enough time to pump out cool storyboards which sadly he didn't get due to bad schedule of this season and yasafumi soejima is also absent in this season who gave JoJo its visual language racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) |
Dec 9, 2021 12:33 AM
#66
_syedmuhammad__ said: tf are you talking about JoJo part5 had worse sales then previous seasons but it sold way better than aot final season here is the volume wise list of jojo p5 bd salesracers551 said: Supersonic_speed said: I’m seeing lots of people who are clearly biased since the hype is going on and can’t tell that the quality of part 5 was higher. Italy looked so colorful and alive, compared to the wetlands from F.F which looked kinda outdated imo.. Also,the directioning is way weaker. GW had so many jawdropping transitions and effects like with the twisting camera and the flying seagulls in the sun rays during one of Giorno’s I have a dream speeches. Stone Ocean doesn’t look bad at all but it lacks in some jawdropping high quality shots so it seems very mundane. On top of that, they cut corners with bad CGI, grey background people and Jolyne looks kinda… different in some shots, I’ve noticed Yeah, there's a surprising amount of errors, which makes me think they had a worse schedule than MAPPA did with AOT. They had 8 months to make 16 episodes, with extra corrections being made over being a weekly series. Despite the mess that AOT had caused for MAPPA, with them doing 8 other shows, and with complex af manga character esque designs, MAPPA literally had more sakuga and better direction than part 6, despite employing newbies/inexperienced staff to work on AOT, versus the very experienced staff of David productions. Remember when AOT S04 Blu-Ray were sold out the day they were released and Golden Wind Blu-ray despite getting a lot of re-animated shots still had terrible sales . Volume1.4760 Volume2.5428 Volume3.4924 Volume4.5166 Volume5.5294 Volume6.5286 Volume7.5515 Volme8.5320 Volume9.4993 Volume10.5602 Now here is volume wise sales of aot final season Volume1.3108 Volume2.2908 Source is someanithing Google sheet on anime bd/dvd sales https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZYVlml_dFje3lZZQUrsMI5TzhCQMJyClEr97ZQUI9bs/edit?usp=drivesdk |
Dec 9, 2021 12:36 AM
#67
SignsOfSuicide said: Blu-ray have animation corrections only not entirely differenly storyboarded scense previous seasons have their own share of really awesome storyboards this season barely have anyLiterally every part has had subpar quality moments before the Blu-Ray. This is just par for the course. Waiting till the rays drop to care about the final product since even now it still looks pretty great overall with only a few touchups here and there and she'll be lookin real purty like. |
Dec 9, 2021 12:46 AM
#68
Crcaker69420 said: Well that is your opinion. I happen to feel differently. The only things that were off putting to me were a few flubs here and there like Joataro's hat size lol. I really enjoyed how the fights were choreographed and the pacing feels great even after multiple viewings.SignsOfSuicide said: Blu-ray have animation corrections only not entirely differenly storyboarded scense previous seasons have their own share of really awesome storyboards this season barely have anyLiterally every part has had subpar quality moments before the Blu-Ray. This is just par for the course. Waiting till the rays drop to care about the final product since even now it still looks pretty great overall with only a few touchups here and there and she'll be lookin real purty like. |
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Dec 9, 2021 1:56 AM
#70
KatoWorks said: it's just your assumption, the reality is not what you thinkPaja03 said: Maybe they are saving budget for the ending, which is from what ive heard, one of the best jojo endings ever. Tired of seeing this same argument all the damn time when it's been debunked many times before. It's all a matter of scheduling and sadly warner bros japan isn't helping one bit. The production schedule is a mess. |
Dec 9, 2021 8:05 AM
#71
Mattinator95 said: no both of them have their own separte columns see for yourselfCrcaker69420 said: _syedmuhammad__ said: racers551 said: Supersonic_speed said: I’m seeing lots of people who are clearly biased since the hype is going on and can’t tell that the quality of part 5 was higher. Italy looked so colorful and alive, compared to the wetlands from F.F which looked kinda outdated imo.. Also,the directioning is way weaker. GW had so many jawdropping transitions and effects like with the twisting camera and the flying seagulls in the sun rays during one of Giorno’s I have a dream speeches. Stone Ocean doesn’t look bad at all but it lacks in some jawdropping high quality shots so it seems very mundane. On top of that, they cut corners with bad CGI, grey background people and Jolyne looks kinda… different in some shots, I’ve noticed Yeah, there's a surprising amount of errors, which makes me think they had a worse schedule than MAPPA did with AOT. They had 8 months to make 16 episodes, with extra corrections being made over being a weekly series. Despite the mess that AOT had caused for MAPPA, with them doing 8 other shows, and with complex af manga character esque designs, MAPPA literally had more sakuga and better direction than part 6, despite employing newbies/inexperienced staff to work on AOT, versus the very experienced staff of David productions. Remember when AOT S04 Blu-Ray were sold out the day they were released and Golden Wind Blu-ray despite getting a lot of re-animated shots still had terrible sales . Volume1.4760 Volume2.5428 Volume3.4924 Volume4.5166 Volume5.5294 Volume6.5286 Volume7.5515 Volme8.5320 Volume9.4993 Volume10.5602 Now here is volume wise sales of aot final season Volume1.3108 Volume2.2908 Source is someanithing Google sheet on anime bd/dvd sales https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZYVlml_dFje3lZZQUrsMI5TzhCQMJyClEr97ZQUI9bs/edit?usp=drivesdk They probably mean S3 Part 2 |
Dec 9, 2021 8:07 AM
#72
KuronoKei17 said: KatoWorks said: it's just your assumption, the reality is not what you thinkPaja03 said: Maybe they are saving budget for the ending, which is from what ive heard, one of the best jojo endings ever. Tired of seeing this same argument all the damn time when it's been debunked many times before. It's all a matter of scheduling and sadly warner bros japan isn't helping one bit. The production schedule is a mess. KuronoKei17 said: it is reality most 9f the animation commentators already pointed out this that schedule was horribleKatoWorks said: it's just your assumption, the reality is not what you thinkPaja03 said: Maybe they are saving budget for the ending, which is from what ive heard, one of the best jojo endings ever. Tired of seeing this same argument all the damn time when it's been debunked many times before. It's all a matter of scheduling and sadly warner bros japan isn't helping one bit. The production schedule is a mess. |
Dec 9, 2021 2:48 PM
#73
DeltaWDunn said: DownBadToday said: Zockerskills said: racers551 said: I said I was concerned about the quality of Jojo in part 6, thanks to Netflix funding it, and... Unfortunately, I was right. As much as I loved part 6's manga, In not seeing it be as good as part 5 was from a production standpoint. Now, I'm not unhappy with the quality that we've got, there was still good cuts, but when MAPPA, with 8 months of time and 16 episodes to make, managed to deliver not just more sakuga, but also more consistency with way more complex character designs than David productions, with also doing 8 other shows, then you know David productions has a problem right now. Now, to be fair, it's 12 episodes, and the voice acting and sound design is still pretty damn good. But I just hope that they'll be able to deliver quality for the later episodes. Yeah I know what you mean one thing that really fucks me up is the grey people in the Prison. And weird Shaped Heads like the leader but I guess thats just jojo xD The grey characters were actually in the manga believe it or not. So that’s not David’s fault They could still improve on problems in the manga you know. Yeah sometimes Studios want to use way to much original souce from the manga |
Dec 10, 2021 3:33 PM
#74
KuronoKei17 said: KatoWorks said: it's just your assumption, the reality is not what you thinkPaja03 said: Maybe they are saving budget for the ending, which is from what ive heard, one of the best jojo endings ever. Tired of seeing this same argument all the damn time when it's been debunked many times before. It's all a matter of scheduling and sadly warner bros japan isn't helping one bit. The production schedule is a mess. I could tell you have no goddamn clue about this subject at all |
Dec 10, 2021 6:08 PM
#75
Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... My bad, sorry for misreading your word. Anyways, it's indeed part 6 has fast paced in comparison to other parts but I personally think it doesn't really that messed for 47 chapters adapt into 12 episodes. I mean just imagine if DP faithfully adapted the whole 47 pages of the first chapters and all the Highway to Hell arc, it would be extermely boring like the first half of Part 3 and may take 16 - 18 episodes for us to get to the encounter between Jolyne and Pucci. Also, unlike other previous parts getting a weekly release, due to being initially published on Netflix, this time Part 6 gets the batch release of full 12 episodes. Hence, DP might mave to remove some contents from the original Manga to fit into the first release so that people wouldn't lose interest until the next release. I mean, was the fast direction REALLY necessary for some parts? There's some cut dialogue that kind of just makes characters feel bland and out of place. Sure, it would slow down the first cour, but it wouldn't ruin it like Part 3 season one. I get the idea behind not letting the viewer lose interest, it's only natural when you're given such a strict deadline to drop 12 episodes at once. It's just unthinkable that people consider this a right choice by Netflix, they don't realize that Studios go out of their way to prepare things before airing each episode, the weekly deal isn't just about airing, it can bring a lot of fixing when it comes to incosistencies, which are present in a lot of episodes of this first cour. Thank god Netflix loses their rights to JoJo in January, because if they kept going it'd be a shit show, final arc would probably look like a CGI fest, and I believe DP can make it look extremely good if they have proper time, and are not rushed to the point of dropping what could've aired over 3 months in just a single day... Just for the record, I'm not hating on Stone Ocean, simply expressing the fact that it looks substantially worse than Golden Wind, even with the same staff at work. Fingers crossed for a lot of Blu Ray corrections, DP is known for changing a lot of scenes with the Blu Ray releases. What do you mean by Netflix losing the rights? They are still getting the newer episodes sooner than the TV broadcast. |
Dec 10, 2021 6:59 PM
#76
Crcaker69420 said: here's the thing, blue ray sales doesn't even matter anymore.Mattinator95 said: no both of them have their own separte columns see for yourselfCrcaker69420 said: _syedmuhammad__ said: tf are you talking about JoJo part5 had worse sales then previous seasons but it sold way better than aot final season here is the volume wise list of jojo p5 bd salesracers551 said: Supersonic_speed said: I’m seeing lots of people who are clearly biased since the hype is going on and can’t tell that the quality of part 5 was higher. Italy looked so colorful and alive, compared to the wetlands from F.F which looked kinda outdated imo.. Also,the directioning is way weaker. GW had so many jawdropping transitions and effects like with the twisting camera and the flying seagulls in the sun rays during one of Giorno’s I have a dream speeches. Stone Ocean doesn’t look bad at all but it lacks in some jawdropping high quality shots so it seems very mundane. On top of that, they cut corners with bad CGI, grey background people and Jolyne looks kinda… different in some shots, I’ve noticed Yeah, there's a surprising amount of errors, which makes me think they had a worse schedule than MAPPA did with AOT. They had 8 months to make 16 episodes, with extra corrections being made over being a weekly series. Despite the mess that AOT had caused for MAPPA, with them doing 8 other shows, and with complex af manga character esque designs, MAPPA literally had more sakuga and better direction than part 6, despite employing newbies/inexperienced staff to work on AOT, versus the very experienced staff of David productions. Remember when AOT S04 Blu-Ray were sold out the day they were released and Golden Wind Blu-ray despite getting a lot of re-animated shots still had terrible sales . Volume1.4760 Volume2.5428 Volume3.4924 Volume4.5166 Volume5.5294 Volume6.5286 Volume7.5515 Volme8.5320 Volume9.4993 Volume10.5602 Now here is volume wise sales of aot final season Volume1.3108 Volume2.2908 Source is someanithing Google sheet on anime bd/dvd sales https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZYVlml_dFje3lZZQUrsMI5TzhCQMJyClEr97ZQUI9bs/edit?usp=drivesdk They probably mean S3 Part 2 |
Dec 11, 2021 4:24 AM
#77
| I found part 6's pacing just fine. Little bit wonky here and there, but I certainly enjoyed it regardless. |
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Dec 14, 2021 12:35 AM
#78
GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: did you read what i wrote ? where is sakuga in whole fuck"ng 12 episodes? if you just like the artstyle of this part than i am totally okk with this bc offcourse but saying its better than part 4 and 5 by animation and total quality wise is really dumb. even the stardust crusader part's random stand battle's had the better animation and quality sakuga than this part comparing to 4 and 5 really?GalacticSamurai said: Ginpin said: No bud as you can clearly see by watching this 12 episodes of part 6 that the animation of this part is really sucked as* compared to part 4 and 5 also the previous aside from okiysh cgi the 2d animation has so many flaws in it and 12 episodes so many great stand fights but not even a one fight with sakuga.on the other hand part 5 just blows from the starting with the amazing giorno vs buchrati fight. you have any answers about this ??Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. Nah, I just share a different view & perspective 🤷🏻♂️ Part 6 is already comparable to Part 4 & 5 in terms of animation. |
Dec 14, 2021 6:19 AM
#79
SaberHotMikasa said: yeah and i told you the facts why part 6 has low animation quality then the older parts again i am not talking about the artstyle.GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: GalacticSamurai said: nah I like this animation more than Part 4 & 5’s.Ginpin said: No bud as you can clearly see by watching this 12 episodes of part 6 that the animation of this part is really sucked as* compared to part 4 and 5 also the previous aside from okiysh cgi the 2d animation has so many flaws in it and 12 episodes so many great stand fights but not even a one fight with sakuga.on the other hand part 5 just blows from the starting with the amazing giorno vs buchrati fight. you have any answers about this ??Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. Nah, I just share a different view & perspective 🤷🏻♂️ Part 6 is already comparable to Part 4 & 5 in terms of animation. |
Dec 15, 2021 3:34 PM
#80
Oongbuh said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... My bad, sorry for misreading your word. Anyways, it's indeed part 6 has fast paced in comparison to other parts but I personally think it doesn't really that messed for 47 chapters adapt into 12 episodes. I mean just imagine if DP faithfully adapted the whole 47 pages of the first chapters and all the Highway to Hell arc, it would be extermely boring like the first half of Part 3 and may take 16 - 18 episodes for us to get to the encounter between Jolyne and Pucci. Also, unlike other previous parts getting a weekly release, due to being initially published on Netflix, this time Part 6 gets the batch release of full 12 episodes. Hence, DP might mave to remove some contents from the original Manga to fit into the first release so that people wouldn't lose interest until the next release. I mean, was the fast direction REALLY necessary for some parts? There's some cut dialogue that kind of just makes characters feel bland and out of place. Sure, it would slow down the first cour, but it wouldn't ruin it like Part 3 season one. I get the idea behind not letting the viewer lose interest, it's only natural when you're given such a strict deadline to drop 12 episodes at once. It's just unthinkable that people consider this a right choice by Netflix, they don't realize that Studios go out of their way to prepare things before airing each episode, the weekly deal isn't just about airing, it can bring a lot of fixing when it comes to incosistencies, which are present in a lot of episodes of this first cour. Thank god Netflix loses their rights to JoJo in January, because if they kept going it'd be a shit show, final arc would probably look like a CGI fest, and I believe DP can make it look extremely good if they have proper time, and are not rushed to the point of dropping what could've aired over 3 months in just a single day... Just for the record, I'm not hating on Stone Ocean, simply expressing the fact that it looks substantially worse than Golden Wind, even with the same staff at work. Fingers crossed for a lot of Blu Ray corrections, DP is known for changing a lot of scenes with the Blu Ray releases. What do you mean by Netflix losing the rights? They are still getting the newer episodes sooner than the TV broadcast. Sorry for the late response: Netflix is losing the rights to the series nonetheless, no matter how the schedule is right now, couldn't really care less, Warner should've never sat down with Netflix to sign a deal to the rights of JoJo... In case you don't know though, the rights to the series will end in January, according to, well, people in the internet who are informed. Can't bring EXACT source but it circulates around and you can easily find info about it. Could be miscommunication from someone, but I'm pretty sure it's real... |
Dec 16, 2021 7:46 PM
#81
Tigasferu said: i hope they never touch jojo again for fu*king god sake.Oongbuh said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... My bad, sorry for misreading your word. Anyways, it's indeed part 6 has fast paced in comparison to other parts but I personally think it doesn't really that messed for 47 chapters adapt into 12 episodes. I mean just imagine if DP faithfully adapted the whole 47 pages of the first chapters and all the Highway to Hell arc, it would be extermely boring like the first half of Part 3 and may take 16 - 18 episodes for us to get to the encounter between Jolyne and Pucci. Also, unlike other previous parts getting a weekly release, due to being initially published on Netflix, this time Part 6 gets the batch release of full 12 episodes. Hence, DP might mave to remove some contents from the original Manga to fit into the first release so that people wouldn't lose interest until the next release. I mean, was the fast direction REALLY necessary for some parts? There's some cut dialogue that kind of just makes characters feel bland and out of place. Sure, it would slow down the first cour, but it wouldn't ruin it like Part 3 season one. I get the idea behind not letting the viewer lose interest, it's only natural when you're given such a strict deadline to drop 12 episodes at once. It's just unthinkable that people consider this a right choice by Netflix, they don't realize that Studios go out of their way to prepare things before airing each episode, the weekly deal isn't just about airing, it can bring a lot of fixing when it comes to incosistencies, which are present in a lot of episodes of this first cour. Thank god Netflix loses their rights to JoJo in January, because if they kept going it'd be a shit show, final arc would probably look like a CGI fest, and I believe DP can make it look extremely good if they have proper time, and are not rushed to the point of dropping what could've aired over 3 months in just a single day... Just for the record, I'm not hating on Stone Ocean, simply expressing the fact that it looks substantially worse than Golden Wind, even with the same staff at work. Fingers crossed for a lot of Blu Ray corrections, DP is known for changing a lot of scenes with the Blu Ray releases. What do you mean by Netflix losing the rights? They are still getting the newer episodes sooner than the TV broadcast. Sorry for the late response: Netflix is losing the rights to the series nonetheless, no matter how the schedule is right now, couldn't really care less, Warner should've never sat down with Netflix to sign a deal to the rights of JoJo... In case you don't know though, the rights to the series will end in January, according to, well, people in the internet who are informed. Can't bring EXACT source but it circulates around and you can easily find info about it. Could be miscommunication from someone, but I'm pretty sure it's real... |
Dec 16, 2021 10:02 PM
#82
Tigasferu said: Oongbuh said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: kizumi91 said: Tigasferu said: racers551 said: kizumi91 said: Bad quality? Except some minor wacky CGI scenes, everything else is pretty good. I was not really into it when reading the Manga but now the fight between Weather, Jolyne and Lang Rangler becomes one of my favourite fights in JoJo. I mean, I said lack of quality. Also, compare the 7 page muda to this. It's not a competition. 7 page muda just wins. You don't need to compare 7 page muda, just compared both introduction episodes of Part 5 and 6, you'll see a GINORMOUS change in both of them. It's very sad that they went back to the Part 3 director, the direction in that whole season was just terrible, felt so painfully slow and sometimes meaningless, probably the worst directed season of JoJo. (This is regarding Part 3 Season 1, which was terrible honestly) The animated of Part 6 is painfully slow? I would assume that you haven't read the Manga. Did you... read..? I was talking about the direction of Part 3, which was a mess for the first season, and now it's the opposite, it's a fast paced mess... I've really given up my hope for you people... My bad, sorry for misreading your word. Anyways, it's indeed part 6 has fast paced in comparison to other parts but I personally think it doesn't really that messed for 47 chapters adapt into 12 episodes. I mean just imagine if DP faithfully adapted the whole 47 pages of the first chapters and all the Highway to Hell arc, it would be extermely boring like the first half of Part 3 and may take 16 - 18 episodes for us to get to the encounter between Jolyne and Pucci. Also, unlike other previous parts getting a weekly release, due to being initially published on Netflix, this time Part 6 gets the batch release of full 12 episodes. Hence, DP might mave to remove some contents from the original Manga to fit into the first release so that people wouldn't lose interest until the next release. I mean, was the fast direction REALLY necessary for some parts? There's some cut dialogue that kind of just makes characters feel bland and out of place. Sure, it would slow down the first cour, but it wouldn't ruin it like Part 3 season one. I get the idea behind not letting the viewer lose interest, it's only natural when you're given such a strict deadline to drop 12 episodes at once. It's just unthinkable that people consider this a right choice by Netflix, they don't realize that Studios go out of their way to prepare things before airing each episode, the weekly deal isn't just about airing, it can bring a lot of fixing when it comes to incosistencies, which are present in a lot of episodes of this first cour. Thank god Netflix loses their rights to JoJo in January, because if they kept going it'd be a shit show, final arc would probably look like a CGI fest, and I believe DP can make it look extremely good if they have proper time, and are not rushed to the point of dropping what could've aired over 3 months in just a single day... Just for the record, I'm not hating on Stone Ocean, simply expressing the fact that it looks substantially worse than Golden Wind, even with the same staff at work. Fingers crossed for a lot of Blu Ray corrections, DP is known for changing a lot of scenes with the Blu Ray releases. What do you mean by Netflix losing the rights? They are still getting the newer episodes sooner than the TV broadcast. Sorry for the late response: Netflix is losing the rights to the series nonetheless, no matter how the schedule is right now, couldn't really care less, Warner should've never sat down with Netflix to sign a deal to the rights of JoJo... In case you don't know though, the rights to the series will end in January, according to, well, people in the internet who are informed. Can't bring EXACT source but it circulates around and you can easily find info about it. Could be miscommunication from someone, but I'm pretty sure it's real... I wish you are right. I mean, it seems like nothing more than a baseless rumour but I think we can all agree the show would benefit from going back to weekly. Maybe it wouldn't fix everything but I can't see it as having a negative effect |
Dec 16, 2021 11:35 PM
#83
GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: yeah and i told you the facts why part 6 has low animation quality then the older parts again i am not talking about the artstyle.GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: did you read what i wrote ? where is sakuga in whole fuck"ng 12 episodes? if you just like the artstyle of this part than i am totally okk with this bc offcourse but saying its better than part 4 and 5 by animation and total quality wise is really dumb. even the stardust crusader part's random stand battle's had the better animation and quality sakuga than this part comparing to 4 and 5 really?GalacticSamurai said: nah I like this animation more than Part 4 & 5’s.Ginpin said: No bud as you can clearly see by watching this 12 episodes of part 6 that the animation of this part is really sucked as* compared to part 4 and 5 also the previous aside from okiysh cgi the 2d animation has so many flaws in it and 12 episodes so many great stand fights but not even a one fight with sakuga.on the other hand part 5 just blows from the starting with the amazing giorno vs buchrati fight. you have any answers about this ??Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. Nah, I just share a different view & perspective 🤷🏻♂️ Part 6 is already comparable to Part 4 & 5 in terms of animation. “The facts” lmao this dude. Keyword: Subjective |
Dec 17, 2021 4:19 AM
#84
| OP you have no taste. Snk season 4 is literally awfully animated and it shows. |
Dec 20, 2021 3:07 AM
#85
SaberHotMikasa said: now you are just a filthy troller or you just a dillusioner you don't even know the difference between animation and art. htf do you even have a opinion. and tell me htf is part 6 animation is comparable to the part 5 to you ohh sorry offcourse you have your own opinion but can you just tell me why? just name a one good fight in the whole 12 episodes in this part 6.ohh but plzz after that try to rewatch the part 6 hmm just a episode 2 fight between giorno vs bucharatti.GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: did you read what i wrote ? where is sakuga in whole fuck"ng 12 episodes? if you just like the artstyle of this part than i am totally okk with this bc offcourse but saying its better than part 4 and 5 by animation and total quality wise is really dumb. even the stardust crusader part's random stand battle's had the better animation and quality sakuga than this part comparing to 4 and 5 really?GalacticSamurai said: nah I like this animation more than Part 4 & 5’s.Ginpin said: No bud as you can clearly see by watching this 12 episodes of part 6 that the animation of this part is really sucked as* compared to part 4 and 5 also the previous aside from okiysh cgi the 2d animation has so many flaws in it and 12 episodes so many great stand fights but not even a one fight with sakuga.on the other hand part 5 just blows from the starting with the amazing giorno vs buchrati fight. you have any answers about this ??Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. Nah, I just share a different view & perspective 🤷🏻♂️ Part 6 is already comparable to Part 4 & 5 in terms of animation. “The facts” lmao this dude. Keyword: Subjective |
Dec 20, 2021 5:08 PM
#86
| i just noticed a couple of lower quality shots but other than that it was actually not bad |
Jan 7, 2022 3:22 AM
#87
| Wait, are you really complaining about quality?? In what way isn't it perfect? I don't see any problematic scenes, animations, or transitions. It's at least as good as parts 3, 4, and 5. So I think it's better than I expected. The animation flows well, the colors are great, the OST is also good quality, the pacing is fluid. I wish people would just enjoy good anime and not complain... |
Jan 7, 2022 6:05 AM
#88
GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: now you are just a filthy troller or you just a dillusioner you don't even know the difference between animation and art. htf do you even have a opinion. and tell me htf is part 6 animation is comparable to the part 5 to you ohh sorry offcourse you have your own opinion but can you just tell me why? just name a one good fight in the whole 12 episodes in this part 6.ohh but plzz after that try to rewatch the part 6 hmm just a episode 2 fight between giorno vs bucharatti.GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: yeah and i told you the facts why part 6 has low animation quality then the older parts again i am not talking about the artstyle.GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: did you read what i wrote ? where is sakuga in whole fuck"ng 12 episodes? if you just like the artstyle of this part than i am totally okk with this bc offcourse but saying its better than part 4 and 5 by animation and total quality wise is really dumb. even the stardust crusader part's random stand battle's had the better animation and quality sakuga than this part comparing to 4 and 5 really?GalacticSamurai said: nah I like this animation more than Part 4 & 5’s.Ginpin said: No bud as you can clearly see by watching this 12 episodes of part 6 that the animation of this part is really sucked as* compared to part 4 and 5 also the previous aside from okiysh cgi the 2d animation has so many flaws in it and 12 episodes so many great stand fights but not even a one fight with sakuga.on the other hand part 5 just blows from the starting with the amazing giorno vs buchrati fight. you have any answers about this ??Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. Nah, I just share a different view & perspective 🤷🏻♂️ Part 6 is already comparable to Part 4 & 5 in terms of animation. “The facts” lmao this dude. Keyword: Subjective Jumping Jack Flash, the entire frog rain, Marilyn Manson, etc. You gotta be pretty blind to act like there are no good fights in Stone Ocean. And just a tip of advice? Learn how to speak actual English before acting so pompous when talking with someone. |
Jan 15, 2022 1:08 PM
#89
Oongbuh said: who the fuc* are you braindead my english teacher?that person clearly understood me.if you don't then kindly fuc* off.you are the one of the worst kind of ppl's that correcting the english of others on the internet as insulting them.And talking about the good fights bruhh i said many times where is the fucking sakuga in whole 12 episodes? clearly you are the one who is blind.bc there is none and on the other hand part 5 started with smooth sakuga fight between giorno vs bucciarati and even some of the filler type episodes of part 3 had good cgi blend with sakuga fights then this trash of a cgi in the last episode duh who is blind now? or you just skipped the whole previous parts and started watching this ? bloddy panchod teri maa di fudi saale.Now google this sacred words that write about you in my language.GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: yeah and i told you the facts why part 6 has low animation quality then the older parts again i am not talking about the artstyle.GalacticSamurai said: SaberHotMikasa said: did you read what i wrote ? where is sakuga in whole fuck"ng 12 episodes? if you just like the artstyle of this part than i am totally okk with this bc offcourse but saying its better than part 4 and 5 by animation and total quality wise is really dumb. even the stardust crusader part's random stand battle's had the better animation and quality sakuga than this part comparing to 4 and 5 really?GalacticSamurai said: nah I like this animation more than Part 4 & 5’s.Ginpin said: No bud as you can clearly see by watching this 12 episodes of part 6 that the animation of this part is really sucked as* compared to part 4 and 5 also the previous aside from okiysh cgi the 2d animation has so many flaws in it and 12 episodes so many great stand fights but not even a one fight with sakuga.on the other hand part 5 just blows from the starting with the amazing giorno vs buchrati fight. you have any answers about this ??Wait are ppl really saying why isn't it colourful like previous parts? They are in a goddamn prison ofcourse it won't be colorful like Italy or Morioh. The CGI was fine not that noticeable unless you watch in like 0.25 speed. I guess some people just want to complain because it has netflix's name attached to it. Nah, I just share a different view & perspective 🤷🏻♂️ Part 6 is already comparable to Part 4 & 5 in terms of animation. “The facts” lmao this dude. Keyword: Subjective Jumping Jack Flash, the entire frog rain, Marilyn Manson, etc. You gotta be pretty blind to act like there are no good fights in Stone Ocean. And just a tip of advice? Learn how to speak actual English before acting so pompous when talking with someone. |
GalacticSamuraiJan 15, 2022 1:19 PM
Jan 18, 2022 10:18 PM
#91
| Funny to see people complaining about Part 6 looking drab and lifeless compared to part 5... Welcome to JoJo manga reader discourse for the last 20 years. Part 6 is the most divisive for a reason. It gets more interesting about halfway through. I'm just sad we likely won't get to hear Anasui scream "If it doesn't have Mickey Mouse this shit ain't Disney" |
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