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Jul 28, 2021 2:06 PM
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I honestly think Bones should give up on MHA n hand it over to a different studio bcz
Manga has come a long way yet anime still following the same narrative style.

One example is the overhaul arc, in manga looked so good n a bit dark but in anime ehh no one liked it cuz the choice of color pallets & screenplay/narrative build is still slow, romcom-ish

Looking at the different studio works. See how stylish and crystal clear animation they do nowadays with amazing choreography. they stuck on the same storytelling style and even animation is not as par as it should be, considering the fact it is a massive franchise specially for foreign audiences still not changing the tones. Bones are stuck in early 2000s style they aint adopting the future. like look at JJK & DS animation & work. Stddios completely changed the MANGA. Thats what the job of Anime adaptation is GO PLUS ULTRA

Another issue i have with Bones is they never goes out of the way for fight scenes. i mean i have tones of issue with pierrot but when it comes to fight scenes they go full all-out and not just follow manga but extra choreography to enhance the hype which is the best thing they do. as naruto and bleach had one of the finest fights animation in anime history.
Bones simply just copy paste from manga. Hori is not that good at fight choreography work but good storyteller with OP art. Only If bones put just little bit more effect it could be something else

Worried for BNHA Future! They must need to adapt & change the narrative style
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I think a lot of the problems could be solved if they didn't try to pump out a movie every season
Jul 28, 2021 2:26 PM
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one of the prime reason maybe jjk and demon slayer are at S1 and MHA is at s5

more season u make, lesser budget u have. ( sequal season has lesser member in mal is kind of analogous indicator to show that it will earn less money too)
^ how to solve this problem little bit?
by not listening to the above guy

long running seasonal are meant to have lower quality with more season or u can choose long running continuous shows with fillers and inconsistent animation as alternate
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Adampk said:
one of the prime reason maybe jjk and demon slayer are at S1 and MHA is at s5

more season u make, lesser budget u have.
^ how to solve this problem?
by not listening to the above guy

seasonal are ment to have lower quality with more season or u can choose long running with fillers and inconsistent animation


Who told them to rush? You can say about such things with long running series, but for seasonal, NAH! Now studios choose to work in seasons because they could work better n give it sometime.

2ndly Bones aibt doing much production still end up releasing such quality is a pretty bad considering the other studio having overload work still gave top notch adaptation

Jul 28, 2021 2:32 PM
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AhmadKmal said:
Adampk said:
one of the prime reason maybe jjk and demon slayer are at S1 and MHA is at s5

more season u make, lesser budget u have.
^ how to solve this problem?
by not listening to the above guy

seasonal are ment to have lower quality with more season or u can choose long running with fillers and inconsistent animation


Who told them to rush? You can say about such things with long running series, but for seasonal, NAH! Now studios choose to work in seasons because they could work better n give it sometime.

u are not getting it
rushing is not the problem. money is the problem. if they dont rush, series will lose hype
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Jul 28, 2021 2:33 PM
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I personally dont want a studio change.Yes Bones right now is handling this pretty badly cause of the movie.But if they deliever on MVA then theres no need for a studio change..
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2ndly Bones aibt doing much production still end up releasing such quality is a pretty bad considering the other studio having overload work still gave top notch adaptation

tell me no of anime at its 5th season which has better quality than mha
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I personally dont want a studio change.Yes Bones right now is handling this pretty badly cause of the movie.But if they deliever on MVA then theres no need for a studio change..


Me too i believe in Bones.. One of my fav studio.. I said it in frustration.. But the way things are pretty sad

Jul 28, 2021 2:40 PM
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Adampk said:

tell me no of anime at its 5th season which has better quality than mha


Im talking about narrative (which u cant deny) not the anime as animation. Narrative is set by director screenplay and producer.

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tell me no of anime at its 5th season which has better quality than mha


Im talking about narrative (which u cant deny) not the anime as animation. Narrative is set by director screenplay and producer.

well, that's ofcouse since MHA director changed
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AhmadKmal said:
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I personally dont want a studio change.Yes Bones right now is handling this pretty badly cause of the movie.But if they deliever on MVA then theres no need for a studio change..


Me too i believe in Bones.. One of my fav studio.. I said it in frustration.. But the way things are pretty sad

Completely See where you're coming from since im frustated too.Skipped the latest two episodes and wont pick it up untill the season ends.
Jul 28, 2021 3:03 PM

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And bones used to be good

Example: ouran high school host club my 2nd favorite anime next to pretty boy detective club which isn’t bones just wanted to say what my second was
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I love Bones and think it’s awesome that they’ve been sticking with MHA all these years. Why would you want a change after seeing the ridiculous backlash from Mappa’s work on AOT? I don’t want any of Bones animators to receive anymore death threats than they already probably do. JJK’s art style is completely different from Horikoshi’s and would look incredibly off putting. Demon Slayer’s animation style is very comparable to MHA, although UFOTable is better than Bones. Remember what happened with One Punch Man? Do you really want JC Staff to take over My Hero next? That would be a disaster, just like changing studios 5 seasons and 3 movies in is. The only studio I could see taking over would be Madhouse but that’s a hard ask. The movies are epic and have God-tier animation in the final fights for MHA but I’d rather have 2 24 episode seasons a year for MHA I think. Also I loved the Overhaul arc I thought the emotional weight and dark tones were expertly expressed.
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AhmadKmal said:
I honestly think Bones should give up on MHA n hand it over to a different studio bcz
Manga has come a long way yet anime still following the same narrative style.

One example is the overhaul arc, in manga looked so good n a bit dark but in anime ehh no one liked it cuz the choice of color pallets & screenplay/narrative build is still slow, romcom-ish

Looking at the different studio works. See how stylish and crystal clear animation they do nowadays with amazing choreography. they stuck on the same storytelling style and even animation is not as par as it should be, considering the fact it is a massive franchise specially for foreign audiences still not changing the tones. Bones are stuck in early 2000s style they aint adopting the future. like look at JJK & DS animation & work. Stddios completely changed the MANGA. Thats what the job of Anime adaptation is GO PLUS ULTRA

Another issue i have with Bones is they never goes out of the way for fight scenes. i mean i have tones of issue with pierrot but when it comes to fight scenes they go full all-out and not just follow manga but extra choreography to enhance the hype which is the best thing they do. as naruto and bleach had one of the finest fights animation in anime history.
Bones simply just copy paste from manga. Hori is not that good at fight choreography work but good storyteller with OP art. Only If bones put just little bit more effect it could be something else

Worried for BNHA Future! They must need to adapt & change the narrative style
I kinda disagree on the fighting sequences just a little because when ever Nakamura is animating a fight he always make the fight so much better than the manga just look at lida vs the ice dude that was super clean also deku vs bakagou was really well animated and I personally enjoyed it more in the anime but that's what I think
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Nothing, they still doing a great job with MHA.
Jul 28, 2021 10:14 PM

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I felt that after the third season, It's just not as same as before.
The first 3 seasons were outstanding but the 4th and 5th are a little bit Mehh.
I don't understand these terms such as Narrative build or other stuff but yeah, I just can't enjoy MHA as I used to enjoy back then anymore
Jul 28, 2021 10:33 PM
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BONES is part of the ownership aka production committee of My Hero Academia and they are high ranking on it too so obviously they will not give it to other anime studio at all

the quality drop happened the moment they started making movies of My Hero Academia and made them allocate better staff on those movies but anime movies is a easy cash grab tactic so it will not go away soon

deal with it and same will mostly happen with Jujutsu Kaisen

and usually anime adaptation sequels tend to have lower quality than their first seasons anyway like it happened on Attack on Titan and One Punch Man too
Jul 28, 2021 11:52 PM
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In my opinion, bones did great job until now, the second and third seasons were great adaptations of the manga. But many fans (me included) see how they can ruin the fifth season with too many fillers and slow pacing. Even the animation got worse, in my opinion,I really hope they do MVA justice and they will come in full strength for the sixth season. If they will distroy the sixth season, it will be more than depressing.
Jul 29, 2021 12:50 AM

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What are you talking about? MHA has amazing animation one of the best i have seen and i have seen a lot. BONES did the art perfectly to match the manga and you can’t just compare ufotable with BONES since ufotable is just on a different level. I also LOVED the overhaul arc and it’s my favorite arc and fight scene in MHA so far. (I dont read the manga) BONES is perfect for MHA and if they had a studio change we would just have another AOT S4 with an animation dip and full of people complaining and sending death threats to animators.
Jul 29, 2021 9:02 AM
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Adampk said:
AhmadKmal said:


Who told them to rush? You can say about such things with long running series, but for seasonal, NAH! Now studios choose to work in seasons because they could work better n give it sometime.

u are not getting it
rushing is not the problem. money is the problem. if they dont rush, series will lose hype
money is the problem?Do you work at bones or something.
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u are not getting it
rushing is not the problem. money is the problem. if they dont rush, series will lose hype
money is the problem?Do you work at bones or something.

so u work at bones do u?
u are speaking like u dont know how professional industry works.
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so u work at bones do u?
u are speaking like u dont know how professional industry works.


I think rushing is more of a problem than money. If they didn't rush and put extra care to the anime for maybe a few more more months to a year, wouldn't the quality of the show be much better? Let's take Demon Slayer as an example, animated by ufotable studios. They use an average budget, but they never rush their works and actually have talented animators that put effort to every single frame. Like KyoAni, one of the most popular studios out there because of their extremely fluid animation and detailed artwork in shows like Violet Evergarden. They rarely produce anime, but the ones they have produced are extremely high in quality. Time is a more important aspect then money in this kind of matter. I think more people rather wouldn't mind waiting more time to enjoy a more polished product.

anime is rushed to release at prime time when hype is high. so it earns more money .
kyoani only takes on few projects and kyoani donot do long running anime. animation of violet evergarden was fluid at the cost of cutting short the story...probably it could be the reason too.

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Adampk said:
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money is the problem?Do you work at bones or something.

so u work at bones do u?
u are speaking like u dont know how professional industry works.
You talk like you have a lot of knowledge about anime industry but you don't even know that money is not that big of deal for bones
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so u work at bones do u?
u are speaking like u dont know how professional industry works.
You talk like you have a lot of knowledge about anime industry but you don't even know that money is not that big of deal for bones

what i said should be commen sense, but telling to someone who looks through anime watcher perspective wont do any good i guess
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Adampk said:
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money is the problem?Do you work at bones or something.

so u work at bones do u?
u are speaking like u dont know how professional industry works.
You talk like you have a lot of knowledge about anime industry but you don't even know that money is not that big of deal for bones. Bones is behind animation of Fmab, Mga, Noragami and mob pscho which are successful and well animated shows. And about budget goes down every season haven't you watched all might VS all for one or deku VS overhaul that animation was outstanding specially the allmight VS all for one. And my hero is money maker for bones that's why 2 movies have came out(3rd on the way). You see bones will go out in the next season.

And I think you are very emotional person (don't take it personally).
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With the astronomical sales both Demon Slayer and Jujutsu Kaisen are boasting though, they really don't need to rush anything.

MHA sells well, but with its current numbers I don't blame Bones from thinking they need to push out at least one season a year to keep the series fresh into the viewers heads.

I don't know what's the deal with the movies, but maybe they (the Studio) actually make more money from them than with the anime.
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Adampk said:
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You talk like you have a lot of knowledge about anime industry but you don't even know that money is not that big of deal for bones

what i said should be commen sense, but telling to someone who looks through anime watcher perspective wont do any good i guess
what you told is common sense which part are you talking about?
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Adampk said:

so u work at bones do u?
u are speaking like u dont know how professional industry works.
You talk like you have a lot of knowledge about anime industry but you don't even know that money is not that big of deal for bones. Bones is behind animation of Fmab, Mga, Noragami and mob pscho which are successful and well animated shows. And about budget goes down every season haven't you watched all might VS all for one or deku VS overhaul that animation was outstanding specially the allmight VS all for one. And my hero is money maker for bones that's why 2 movies have came out(3rd on the way). You see bones will go out in the next season.

And I think you are very emotional person (don't take it personally).

i am not a emotional person, i think u are not getting what discussion is going on here

"money is not that big of deal for bones."
lol it a big deal for every studio, anime doesnt grow on trees

"Bones is behind animation of Fmab, Mga, Noragami and mob pscho which are successful"

why do mob psycho donot have a sequal inspite of being high quality and highly rated in mal and source material is complete...maybe the answer is mob psycho s2 didn't make enough money

fma got a sequal movie and a reboot called fmab....because it had hype and made money

noragami basically reached close to manga and eventually hype went down so no more sequal

about budget going down every season, have u not seen since season 2 overall quality has decreased somewhat every season, even though there are good episode every now and then (it's pretty obvious to most people in mal)
nobody is denying true mha is a money maker for bones, thats why its still getting a sequal. but obviously money made after every season is lesser. but they are trying to keep the profit margin high by releasing those movies
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Adampk said:
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You talk like you have a lot of knowledge about anime industry but you don't even know that money is not that big of deal for bones. Bones is behind animation of Fmab, Mga, Noragami and mob pscho which are successful and well animated shows. And about budget goes down every season haven't you watched all might VS all for one or deku VS overhaul that animation was outstanding specially the allmight VS all for one. And my hero is money maker for bones that's why 2 movies have came out(3rd on the way). You see bones will go out in the next season.

And I think you are very emotional person (don't take it personally).

i am not a emotional person, i think u are not getting what discussion is going on here

"money is not that big of deal for bones."
lol it a big deal for every studio, anime doesnt grow on trees

"Bones is behind animation of Fmab, Mga, Noragami and mob pscho which are successful"

why do mob psycho donot have a sequal inspite of being high quality and highly rated in mal and source material is complete...maybe the answer is mob psycho s2 didn't make money

fma got a sequal movie and a reboot called fmab....because it had hype and made money

noragami basically reached close to manga and eventually hype went down so no more sequal

about budget going down every season, have u not seen since season 2 overall quality has decreased somewhat every season, even though there are good episode every now and then (it's pretty obvious to most people in mal)
nobody is denying true mha is a money maker for bones, thats why its still getting a sequal. but obviously money made after every season is lesser. but they are trying to keep the profit margin high by releasing those movies
I think you didn't get it. I said that money is no problem for bones in case of mha specifically.
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i am not a emotional person, i think u are not getting what discussion is going on here

"money is not that big of deal for bones."
lol it a big deal for every studio, anime doesnt grow on trees

"Bones is behind animation of Fmab, Mga, Noragami and mob pscho which are successful"

why do mob psycho donot have a sequal inspite of being high quality and highly rated in mal and source material is complete...maybe the answer is mob psycho s2 didn't make money

fma got a sequal movie and a reboot called fmab....because it had hype and made money

noragami basically reached close to manga and eventually hype went down so no more sequal

about budget going down every season, have u not seen since season 2 overall quality has decreased somewhat every season, even though there are good episode every now and then (it's pretty obvious to most people in mal)
nobody is denying true mha is a money maker for bones, thats why its still getting a sequal. but obviously money made after every season is lesser. but they are trying to keep the profit margin high by releasing those movies
I think you didn't get it. I said that money is no problem for bones in case of mha specifically.

" " quotation are ur words. my answer to that is below. u spoke about those series

"I said that money is no problem for bones in case of mha specifically"
if mha 3rd movie flopped....do u think bones will continue mha for long?
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There are some people who misunderstand, so I'll write this down.
The main financier of MHA's animation is TOHO.
They were trying to develop MHA into a corporate mascot.
Bones is only working at TOHO's request.

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Adampk said:
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I think you didn't get it. I said that money is no problem for bones in case of mha specifically.

" " quotation are ur words. my answer to that is below. u spoke about those series

"I said that money is no problem for bones in case of mha specifically"
if mha 3rd movie flopped....do u think bones will continue mha for long?
Yes absolutely even it flops (which is unlikely to happen)bones will continue mha till the end. They have already made 100+ episodes and 2 successful movies I doubt they will stop.
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" " quotation are ur words. my answer to that is below. u spoke about those series

"I said that money is no problem for bones in case of mha specifically"
if mha 3rd movie flopped....do u think bones will continue mha for long?
Yes absolutely even it flops (which is unlikely to happen)bones will continue mha till the end. They have already made 100+ episodes and 2 successful movies I doubt they will stop.

let me throw a seven deadly sins..lol
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Adampk said:
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Yes absolutely even it flops (which is unlikely to happen)bones will continue mha till the end. They have already made 100+ episodes and 2 successful movies I doubt they will stop.

let me throw a seven deadly sins..lol
there is a difference between it will continue and it will continue to be animated by bones
2 things
My hero has one of the biggest sds does not compare to my hero
And the movie is non Canon
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let me throw a seven deadly sins..lol
there is a difference between it will continue and it will continue to be animated by bones
2 things
My hero has one of the biggest sds does not compare to my hero
And the movie is non Canon

sds is very popular, S1 is 26th popular show on mal (even if its not as popular as mha, it's still very popular, u can take AOT which is more popular than mha as eg which changed studios too)
both sds and mha movie were mostly non canon
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2ndly Bones aibt doing much production still end up releasing such quality is a pretty bad considering the other studio having overload work still gave top notch adaptation

tell me no of anime at its 5th season which has better quality than mha


Jojo's Bizzare Adventures has better quality, but probably because David Productions isn't working on a movie and anime in the same time and the difference between seasons release date is like 2 or 3 years, unlike MHA.

The first 2 seasons of MHA had amazing quality because at that time, there was no movie in production.
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tell me no of anime at its 5th season which has better quality than mha


Jojo's Bizzare Adventures has better quality, but probably because David Productions isn't working on a movie and anime in the same time and the difference between seasons release date is like 2 or 3 years, unlike MHA.

The first 2 seasons of MHA had amazing quality because at that time, there was no movie in production.

i have not seen jojo part 4 and 5. it doesn't seem to be the case. But i am not sure. (since people are not really talking about jjo animation that much)
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1034651-did-jjbas-animation-quality-sharply-decline/
https://www.reddit.com/r/StardustCrusaders/comments/5i7j1d/understanding_david_pros_animation_quality/

but yeah jojo s5 is probably better animation than mha s5 (my wording was wrong there, i meant s5 better than s1 not really comparison with mha and other series)

"the first 2 seasons of MHA had amazing quality because at that time because at that time there was no movie"
movie is made to recover the money exhausted in first 2 season.


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Tbh, I’m enjoying this season just fine. Kinda wondering what exactly I’m missing out on for the arc that was left out, but I’m still getting something out of what I got. Endeavor was a character that needed some fleshing out, so I’m happy with what Bones is doing so far.
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Most of the times the problem is not the money but the time/people working on the series. They choose to move most people on making the movie thus the season is really lacking. If they took more time people will lose interest only the most die hard fans would be ok with it.

In my opinion they ruined. This season has been very hyped by the fans and to give them such a bad work with fillers and potentially leaving it half done until next season it sucks.
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I cant discuss the animation or studio side, and I like studio bones for biased reasons. I just wanted to say that I hope they get better, whether that means they get more time or more money. I wouldn’t want the style to change this far into the series. And i don’t watch for epic fight scenes anyway. Maybe that would change with a new studio. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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The gentle criminal fight actually had some great artwork, showing how his final form has some sort of smokey like fire stuff surround him...Bones just put a pink outline for that :)


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like look at JJK & DS animation & work.

This is probably the worst example you can give. JJK and DS are still in season 1 and so the higher quality. While Mha is in season5 with multiple movies and so the lower quality. If it is picked by another studio it may even be more ruined.

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I didn't notice anything that went wrong.
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I enjoyed the first 3 seasons of MHA, I barely enjoyed S4 and I'm not enjoying S5 that much either so yeah, something is going terribly wrong with MHA, the quality loss is apparent.

I say the movies are the reason MHA is losing quality, if they stop doing those shitty movies and focus on the anime more then the anime might regain that quality again.
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The problem isn’t with the studio, it’s with the manga content. Y’all keep complaining about how S4 and S5 have been worse than the previous seasons, but these story arcs were just as bad if not worse in the manga (pacing issues, etc). This isn’t a studio issue, it’s a story issue.
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The problem isn’t with the studio, it’s with the manga content. Y’all keep complaining about how S4 and S5 have been worse than the previous seasons, but these story arcs were just as bad if not worse in the manga (pacing issues, etc). This isn’t a studio issue, it’s a story issue.

Please read the manga
They skipped an entire good arc and the first half could have been completed in just 8-9 episodes
About S4, after reading the manga again, I could clearly see what Bones did with the Gentle Criminal fight


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Nothing has gone wrong you're just whining like a spoiled brat. Bones doesn't even makes decisions like rearranging arcs and stuff. The people above them make those choices. Like the production committee
Jul 31, 2021 5:31 AM
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Adampk said:
one of the prime reason maybe jjk and demon slayer are at S1 and MHA is at s5

more season u make, lesser budget u have. ( sequal season has lesser member in mal is kind of analogous indicator to show that it will earn less money too)
^ how to solve this problem little bit?
by not listening to the above guy

long running seasonal are meant to have lower quality with more season or u can choose long running continuous shows with fillers and inconsistent animation as alternate



You don't know anything about budgets. MAL is not connected to how big or small the budget js
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xZabuzax said:
I enjoyed the first 3 seasons of MHA, I barely enjoyed S4 and I'm not enjoying S5 that much either so yeah, something is going terribly wrong with MHA, the quality loss is apparent.

I say the movies are the reason MHA is losing quality, if they stop doing those shitty movies and focus on the anime more then the anime might regain that quality again.


YOU'RE not enjoying it? Sounds like a YOU problem not a problem with the anime.
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