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| I personally think that Fril might actually be innocent, and the mannequins (I know their names, but I’m scared that I might misspell them) might’ve changed their perceptions of everything that happened with her in order to make themselves seem innocent? I’m not sure if that makes sense BUT throughout the series, it has sort of been shown that adults are liars. What if the mannequins forced themselves to believe that their second daughter was having a great life, while in reality she wasn’t actually happy? So then after she killed herself, they were desperate to put the blame on someone else due to having a hard time accepting the real cause of her death, and her death as well. And because of that, they most likely created Wonder Eggs so that people wouldn’t have to go through the same stuff as them. But, if they’re not just trying to victimize themselves, I’d assume that this episode explains why there’s no boys. What I understood was that Fril wanted to be the prettiest girl, meaning that she might’ve wanted a way to “kill” any other girl. And maybe she promised to help the mannequins get their second daughter back as long as they could help get “pretty” girls killed? Like obviously, at this point Rika and Momoe are considered mentally dead, and that’s most likely what Fril would want. This is probably a reach, and I think it’s written poorly, but it’s just something I was thinking about. |
misatoeMar 23, 2021 7:22 PM
| I liked this episode a lot more than the last 2. Getting a thorough backstory on the Uras and how they connected to the larger picture was really needed by this point. They did a really good job depicting their relationship to Frill and how that relationship soured once new women were introduced that she perceived as endangering her position in their lives. Even in death she continues to draw girls to suicide whether it be out of spite or as a form of revenge against the Accas, so they created the Wonder Eggs to train girls to fight her and the insect girls that she created. Doesn’t seem like the best idea since Momoe and now Rika are completely traumatized and they had no way to kill them. Having Rika’s part in the beginning didn’t really fit with the rest of the episode, but I guess there was no great place to put it since the show is almost over. I would’ve liked to have seen the aftermath of Ai’s conversation with her teacher, maybe that will be in the next episode. Also, just want to point out that Frill is an AI and our main character’s name is Ai (japanese word for “love”). Not sure if there will be a deeper connection with that or if that is just some wordplay. |
Funny trivia, Lain was also a 14 years old girl. W.E.P, when Madoka Magica meets S.E Lain... and the plot turn into a hell of a mess. |
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| So, basically everything here is that they accidentally created a jealous and murderous robot daughter, who after finding out she was murderous, you not turn it off or destroy it is better threw in a hole and declared "job well done," except oops, she can log into the collective unconsciousness Matrix through the soul stealing machine they built, and use that to murder more people. And the only way to defeat it is to recruit troubled teenage girls to act as their child soldiers in the Matrix because that's where she lives now as a cyber ghost or something (Nobody Have Tried Unplugging It?). But I guess we already had the machine that steals souls sitting next to their magical albino corpse, so… right. Uhhhh, huh. Remember when it was just some form of magical hell, and we weren't supposed to just assume that the local business was secretly building robots as an offshoot to their brain stealing machines after a couple decades delving into creating superhumans to run their company? Also, is it weird that my first thought is "Well, it's a more realistic view of computers than In-Spectre or Gachaman Crowds put forth." Having a robo Freddy Krueger will do that. Who even cares about this swerve into abject nonsense? At what point was any of this story about Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum? Why are we seemingly making it all about them and this goofy random killer monster-slash-robot-slash-supernatural AI-slash-techno demon? Are we just done with everybody else's (lack of) character arcs? Was that supposed to have been Ai's complete arc? Did Momo and Rikka grow or learn anything in any way, or are we just throwing them aside having turned their magical pets into sushi? And can I say again how fantastic it was to have multiple scenes explaining those stupid things now that we're just stuffing them in the fridge? |
| There's clearly lots of parallels going on with Frill and Ai. - Frill is viewed as Thanatos (Death) while Ai means Love and represents Eros therefore - Frill became that way by feeling Jealousy with her selfish girl upbringing, Ai likely feels Jealousy with Kotio and Sawaki also her Mom and Sawaki - Frill created 3 friends (Hypen, Dot and i guess Dash/Slash/Caret/Comma?), while Ai got herself 3 friends (Neiru/Rika/Momoe) - Frill is an AI and likely going to fight Ai so it will be a AI vs Ai Fight - Himari clearly knew what was up due to encountering Frill and trying to seduce Ura Acca, which clearly felt wrong with the phrase "Im going to look like my mom if im older, so you could have me instead", which perfectly lines up with Sawaki's line in last episode "You are going to look like your mother, when your older". Theres a parallel there, even if they might differ in their meaning Theres a lot interesting going on with both those storylines, but theres also some weird parts in it, where im not sure if i overthink them or if theres more stuff for a S2, as those cant be solved in 2 episodes and im not sure if they are going to be ever explored: - Frill means Furiru so she shares a close name to Neiru to be her sister, but they shouldnt be sisters in any way. Neiru is a Japan Plati, while Frill is an AI created by the Accas who work for Neiru's company. Theres no connection besides the Accas yet and no hints to be her sister, even if the killing intend would fit? And the connection to the company/Accas as well? Just odd. - Acca's wife is represented both in shade at the beginning but is later just Acca's wife. It seems odd, to shade her just for bringing Jealousy in their life. Especially if its mentioned how the Accas are constantly on watch by Neiru's company and have secrets that likely interest others. This thread just screams as it could have more than the side of Ura Acca we've seen to it. - The shot with Baby Himari feels odd. Like why doesnt she look like Himari at all, but has darker skin like Plati Baby Neiru? Especially feeling how there has to be a stronger connection with Neiru and not knowing her sister, it just feels odd to have a shot that should be Himari but looks more like Neiru. - The Accas in the nightclub and meeting Azusa, just feels as if Acca should be Rika's dad. They are looking close, and it just feels again odd there's seemlingy no connection but another new character, despite how likely it could be. Especially with Rika's dad line being "You have to take care of your mom" Just odd how there some obvious connections that just dont share an link yet. Especially Frill, really expected her to be Neiru's sister, which would explain more while establishing and better link to Ai as Neiru is her friend. |
sanleiMar 23, 2021 8:08 PM
| So that was the reason why Wonder Eggs are started and all four girls are involved...but I still can't connect it. It all dates back to the Accas choosing Asuza over their invention Frill. Frill was actually charming ngl, but after being shoved away by Acca's true love, her state of being has turned for the worse. But I still somehow can't connect it, how is Neiru and her company involved on this? Why does Frill/Hyphen/Dot show up when the girls finish their task, is this the camel's backbreaker for the show? Seems more likely, but we have one more episode to go to, and I'm just feeling...odd now with this show. |
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| This episode was extremely good. I'm worried of how it will end though. Feels like a big info dump that's just going to be resolved by next episode? |
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| The main antagonist has been introduced~ Jealousy that can kill... I guess, Frill created a nightmare till those girls thinking of suicide. Momoe and Rika succeed but they got defeated by Frill underlings. 1 episode left? Geez... the Recap episode shouldn't exist... the last episode is going to be so rush... or maybe it going to have a second season? |
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| I personally found WEP boring but this episode sucked me back In and it’s was a recap ep. damm This ep was amazing |
| If there's a hole there's a goal-Master Oogway |
| NGL, the opening minute felt totally like something straight outta Serial Experiments Lain. Rika being the 2nd of 4 girls to get the Frill treatment from Dot (and eventually another girl who's gonna get targeted by Hyphen), and it's jjust as tramuatic and cathartic as Momoe's the previous episode. The whole deal with "The Temptation of Death" of Eros and Thanatos that both Acca and Ura-Acca have been hiding, it's nothing more than the stereotypical psychological meta and psychopathic setting that Lain has established all these years ago. To create the 14-year-old AI girl Frill through scientific scrutiny and under heavy surveillance out of boredom, that's an interesting backstory. *that lip "pop" though* I may not listen to those pops the same way ever again. The life gone awry of Acca from being married to an outsider to getting intense jealousy from Frill, and Ura-Acca being delved deep into research, that sure was a disaster in the making for "feminity being the root of all evil." Even to the borne daughter Himari imitating the same behaviour of (and getting killed by) Frill, that is sure as hell as freaky to making Wonder Eggs and investigations to stop young girls' suicides. So what now, from an actual suicide-based show to a psychological one? This episode was amazing as usual, but to wrap up in 1 episode, that'd be massacre. |
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| Well of course the scientists created a monster. |
| I enjoyed this episode way more than any of the others so far, personally found their backstory more interesting than the main cast’s however this episode wasn’t enough to raise my score but I’m interested to see how this show ends |
snowykevinMar 23, 2021 10:52 PM
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| I didn't see this one coming, so this AI is causing teenagers to kill themselves for what I've understood? |
| "he has it big as a cactus but he won't let go of my head and I puke on his cock bitch" - Boy by Fishball |
| I really enjoyed this as an individual episode. Directing was superb and I even found myself a bit scared from certain scenes. But I'm worried on how they can wrap this up in 1 or 2 episodes (not sure if there is actually a 13th episode). How will they handle the Ai's character arc at the same time solve the "suicide wave" Frill is apparently causing? |
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| Just finished the episode, I see why people so angry now . What the fuck man, this episode got me heated. It was bad enough with Azusa dying but then Himari.. I still don’t quite understand what Acca and Ura Acca are and how Frill control the suicide of girls, though. I don’t know how they’ll wrap the series up in one episode either, but we’ll see. |
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RobertBobert said: Sondfer said: If i got it right - Fril, because of a jealousy, was giving all those girls a desire to die, so those cases are not a "real" suicide. But if they can't revive anyone, then what is a purpose of Wonder Eggs? To let deceased girls pass in peace? The original speculation was that this show is about how to accept the suicide of loved ones and move on. I thought it was to prevent the girls who lost loved ones from committing suicide as well, but then when their little "animals" were killed and the girls became so depressed, I was kinda confused, I still don't understand the motive behind that. |
| my reaction of this episode with 3 words WHAT. THE. FUCK. |
| holy fucking shit. how am i supposed to move on from that ep??? that was insane. in a good way. how the fuck are they gonna end it on 1 ep now ??? hope its not rushed. i do have a feeling that itll be good tho |
| i'm holding most of my thoughts till this is done but lately and this episode solidified my worries so i'm mostly setting myself up for disappointment with the revelations learnt today and with so few episodes left how it's all gonna come together biggest issue is the perspective of suicides' by females being all planned and not a actual social issue and i'm hoping its just the naive perspective of Accas Urra and not some wired deeper commentary of the creators like a few questionable things that have popped up from those two through out the show all that said episode was fucked they somehow made a almost stand alone horror episode that made that ending cut even more jarring lol |
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| Scientists decide to play God to break the routine -> Things go horribly wrong. So... we went from a potential revelation about Koito's suicide last episode to know the full backstory of both Acca and Ura-Acca in this one instead. Not what I expected but these two really needed some focus so I guess it couldn't be helped. So, to make it simple: Acca and Ura-Acca were bored and decided to create an AI that could resemble a human girl. A daughter for them: Frill. Somehow, the AI's "psyche" got so "uncontrollable" she ended up developing an extreme complex towards both scientists. So extreme that she ended up killing Acca's wife (Azusa) and somehow made his daughter, Himari, commit suicide out of pure jealousy. Not to mention it was also implied that Frill managed to create the "temptation of death" concept, which turned into the main reason as for why young girls commit suicide nowadays. How? I have no idea but it's official: we went full Sci-Fi with this episode and I honestly don't know what to think of it. I mean, I feel there are two shows: one before ep. 8 and another one after it. And to be completely honest, I used to find the series more fascinating when the focus was on the different psychological aspects of suicide rather than the Sci-Fi direction we are getting now, with a sudden "antagonist" who we can blame for this social issue. Anyways, it seems there are TWO episodes left but there is still a lot to explore so I'm getting kinda worried about how this all will conclude. Also hello? I know it has lost relevance given these huge revelations but seriously, Neiru's deal with her dead sister hasn't been touched in like forever. |
SouthRzVaMar 24, 2021 12:58 AM
| so the new conclusion is that girls commit suicide because of acca and ura-acca's mistake to create frill? wild. what on earth is going on? make more questions along w the pre-existing ones to be answered all in the last episode. a complete change in direction maybe- hopefully not, I liked the initial more simpler premise better. the two dummies have a fucked up backstory- not too surprised there. it took me a whole 5 minutes to realise frill was NOT ̶t̶h̶e̶ ̶b̶u̶t̶t̶e̶r̶f̶l̶y̶ ̶m̶o̶n̶s̶t̶e̶r̶ ̶i̶n̶ ̶m̶o̶m̶o̶e̶'̶s̶ ̶d̶r̶e̶a̶m̶. after rewatching ep 10 I was wrong nvm. I think it might be hyphen instead. how did dot and hyphen come into existence though? either I missed out something or the writers didn't bother including that. also, does that mean there's only 3 of them? and that one of them won't face any? or will they just recycle from one of the 3 (2?) is himari not human? since she made the same popping gesture as frill. "Being uncontrollable is the essence of femininity." reeeeal nice. this show sure likes going back-and-forth approaching progressive ideas anyways I miss our girls. |
UltrabookMar 24, 2021 1:41 AM
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| i can't believe i never thought artificial intelligence would be involved considering the main characters name is "Ai". interesting episode overall. im not disappointed with the direction the series has gone but i am concerned on how it will conclude. fingers crossed but its been so good so far so i have faith |
| Acca-Ura Acca backstory. Or, more like, the basic root of the problem behind the Wonder Egg thing. "The regret always came late, and that's why its attract a story behind such a minor mistake." First thing first. The girls got a victory, but they got defeated by Frill's friends. they successfully released their suicidal friend, only to late-realizing, that its a fake temporary excitement made by Frill. Her friends came out only to gave them an immidiate temptation of death. Second, Ai might be came to the house to seek the information about how that shit could be done, and more, from the person in charges of those bizarre events, WEP. Not too surprised, the house led her, and she only got such a bizzare history from one of them; two poor gentlemen, lonely researchers, and their adult-child-ai experimentation girl with its sick plocked sound reverberate like crazy. Third, i honestly feel bad with that lame lifes. But, smh, they forgot the basic knowledge of human relationship, even that thing won't be a 100% human. The problem has been found. So, yeah, i don't think its too much complex, and i am very okay about that simplistic idea. A lot of convenience part has been launched there too. Idk if i can be much happy with that. Such as the wife, the kid saved too, and why the hell the Frill's narrow underground room had that much equipment. Who care. Acca-Ura just pretty much doomed from the beginning. So, in summary, the final shall be the last warrior of Eros, Ai, against Frill, the Thanatos. Koito basic reason of suicide maybe the last power of resource for Ai against that thing. So, yeah, as wacky as expected, lets hop it fast to the next week. Because i can't handle such a long pause and story telling for now on, for an unknown reason. Come fuckin on xd.... |
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| that was certainly messed up. Scary episode. I don't quite understand the "temptation of death" thing. What exactly are they referring to? He says "unless it's stopped girls will end up dying when they don't have to... all because of our mistake" Is he referring to Frill? And if so how is Frill causing girls to suicide? Does anyone have a proper explanation for that? |
| Yeah we already got some pretty dark subject matter in the past episodes, but in this one I felt like I was watching a different anime altogether. Although all the suicides now being revealed to be caused by a killer AI? That kind of makes the show more flat. Unless the next (which is also the last, damn) episode adds some more layers to it to not make it so plain and simple. Whatever it is, I hope they end this show with a bang, part 2 on the horizon or not. Did they really have to keep the ED in this episode though...? It didn’t work for the last episode and it surely ruined the mood in this one. |
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| Who are Hyphen and Dot again? Also, this episode was WHAT THE HECK! And the next episode will be the last. How are they going to end it? Crap! I can’t with this! |
     "Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out." Captain Levi, 2014 (／^-^)／☆♪  ♪☆＼(^０^＼) |
| What scares me the most is to think about Neiru's involvement in all of it. She was created through Artificial Insemination by the company of the Accas. Her sister tried to kill her and left that massive scar. Did they try to create another AI to fight Frill and Frill nearly killed her? Are Frill and Neiru actually connected? |
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BeAtOrIcHeE said: I'm starting to hate with a burning passion this damn ending TheDoggoneGirl said: Who are Hyphen and Dot again? Also, this episode was WHAT THE HECK! And the next episode will be the last. How are they going to end it? Crap! I can’t with this! I guess hyphen is that butterfly bitch that killed panic. Ohh, that makes sense. I guess Frill made them, right? The ones inside a glass container. Damnit! |
"Maybe he's trying to take a shit, but the shit just won't come out." Captain Levi, 2014 (／^-^)／☆♪ ♪☆＼(^０^＼) |
| The new character introduced in this episode reminds me of an anime that aired a few seasons ago, Babylon. Seeing how Babylon ended, this is not a good news. |
EckhartPilgrimMar 24, 2021 4:54 AM
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