Why do some people defend the protagonist? What is going on?

Feb 17, 2021 3:03 AM

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He is a human trash but not a pedophile

Feb 17, 2021 3:07 AM

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dark-chaos

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he is a good boy we don't see any problem with his actions, but your threads full of hates so we should remove them for a better community

Feb 17, 2021 3:09 AM

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I am waiting for the show to complete so I can binge it. I don't see how him being in a child's body somehow groomed a child, besides, having a shitty character as a protagonist so he can develop into a better person has happened in all kind of stories.

From the Christmas Carlos to Gantz, there are even some about redemptions for murderers, from the episode I have seen, he died trying to save three people, unless he outright raped someone in the recent episodes; it just seems to me like you are a bitter troll bent on getting a reaction from this community.

Feb 17, 2021 3:09 AM

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Defend? Every stories require an event for character to change, it's called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

Not to mention Rudy is physically 7 YEARS OLD with past knowledge of 34.

I am now advocate that Rudy which 41 YEARS need to find someone around 41 YEARS to have relationship with.

HIs 7 YEARS BODY shouldn't bother people now since he is actually 41, so having relationship with 41 YEARS OLD is the only way to go.

ROXY is the way, she is ours GODDESS.
ALL HAIL THE HOLY RELIC!!!

Feb 17, 2021 3:14 AM

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DJ_Angelo

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This series justifies pedophiles and rewards them. You simply cannot ignore this. This is way too disgusting.[/quot

Toneworks said:
I made the very first thread before the series aired on this forum criticizing the protagonist, and it got removed without me knowing for reasons I don't know.

But I've recently skimmed through the episode discussions on multiple boards and was disgusted that people even try to defend trash.

You can like the show all you want, I made peace with the fact that some people would enjoy shit like this. But defending the protagonist's actions is unacceptable.

Let's just all accept the fact that the protagonist is an irredeemable pedophile, predator and child groomer whose actions are those of the lowest kind of human trash. There, now you can enjoy your "perfect isekai" anime.

Unless you happily ignore the pedophilia because it doesn't fit your narrative of a masterpiece, then you are beyond saving.

This series justifies pedophiles and rewards them. You simply cannot ignore this. This is way too disgusting.

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I mean I get what you're saying but he is a not a pedo we identify a pedo by their physical age. The people he hits on that are mentally younger then him are his physical age or in Eris case older then him by a little which is normal.

It be weird if he ended up dating a grown woman while being 8 or something that be even more abnormal. He may be more mature but because he is a shut in he himself didn't grow too much as a person either so in a way this is him maturing properly.

Also it's not that big of a deal to call him a actual pedo. He doesn't even have any power over the people he gets on like a adult teacher or adult would have over a child because as far as people know he is a child too and he physically is.

I'm not saying you gotta like his actions or condone it you don't have to like it of course. me personally I don't care too much since gets punished for it like most characters do + with murder and all the other stuff I have seen in anime I just look at this and think well okay.

Certainly not worth calling him a pedo tho to say this series justifies pedo behavior is some crazy talk sorry. I don't know what show you been watching but the show never deemed his actions correct.

DJ_AngeloFeb 17, 2021 3:20 AM

Feb 17, 2021 3:19 AM

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Playay

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We're all tired of a generic MC isekai, or they said so.
And so the Anime God have heard your wish.
Okay, here comes Rudeus.
But anime fans still complaining it, because how childish they are that they can't stand a change in their shit.
So then Anime God mad, He's doing His job to make it more controversial upon those SJW and "normal" people who can't differentiate work of fiction with reality and 2D with 3D.
Who started this all? Anime fans.
Who wanted to end this ridiculous complains? Anime fans who defend Rudeus.
So who's the villain here? Those people who complain about it.

Feb 17, 2021 3:33 AM

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Playay said:
We're all tired of a generic MC isekai, or they said so.
And so the Anime God have heard your wish.
Okay, here comes Rudeus.

Who is not only as generic as any other MC isekai protag, but is also a disgusting pervert. You just say that old stuff everyone is sick of is somehow new and refreshing if you cover it in feces.

Feb 17, 2021 3:36 AM

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Toneworks said:
I made the very first thread before the series aired on this forum criticizing the protagonist, and it got removed without me knowing for reasons I don't know.

But I've recently skimmed through the episode discussions on multiple boards and was disgusted that people even try to defend trash.

You can like the show all you want, I made peace with the fact that some people would enjoy shit like this. But defending the protagonist's actions is unacceptable.

Let's just all accept the fact that the protagonist is an irredeemable pedophile, predator and child groomer whose actions are those of the lowest kind of human trash. There, now you can enjoy your "perfect isekai" anime.

Unless you happily ignore the pedophilia because it doesn't fit your narrative of a masterpiece, then you are beyond saving.

This series justifies pedophiles and rewards them. You simply cannot ignore this. This is way too disgusting.

Also one thing to say is he doesn't abuse his mental age he has over the children he interacts with. He isn't teaching them about sex to sleep with them or some crap like that.

Quite the opposite in this latest episode he educated Eris by saying she should give gifts when she has her own money instead of relying on Her grandfather.

He is educating them with his knowledge rather then grooming them for sex, so no he is not a groomer and they are his age or older anyway physically. he taught Sylphiette how to use magic and he is teaching Eris now. He is trying to get Eris to write and learn math.

I think you should take a better eye at the show before throwing groomer and pedo and saying it justifies it.

It doesn't reward him at all he got beat up for it and even the reward he got that can be used for sexual deeds got destroywd in the latest epiaode.

DJ_AngeloFeb 17, 2021 4:24 AM

Feb 17, 2021 3:36 AM

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Was about to try to defend him saying smn like that he's emotional and psychological problems (which probably is still the case) but ngl even tho it explains why he acts that way, it's still bs and there's no way to defend him.

What I definitely wont agree with you is that the whole show is about pedophilia or some shit like that. It isn't that I ignore it completely (cause it's pretty impossible) but I just don't give it so much importance to affect me since
1 it's fiction
2 it's 2D (if it was 3D it'd be a lot more uncomfortable even when he has child's body)

As of rn Rudy's a piece of trash but I hope that it's only there so we can see how he turns out as a better person

Feb 17, 2021 3:42 AM

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johnwong999999 said:
Defend? Every stories require an event for character to change, it's called CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT.

Not to mention Rudy is physically 7 YEARS OLD with past knowledge of 34.

I am now advocate that Rudy which 41 YEARS need to find someone around 41 YEARS to have relationship with.

HIs 7 YEARS BODY shouldn't bother people now since he is actually 41, so having relationship with 41 YEARS OLD is the only way to go.

ROXY is the way, she is ours GODDESS.
ALL HAIL THE HOLY RELIC!!!

Plus mental age and maturity doesn't automatically come with age. He probably spent around 15 of his years in his room with trauma and depression

Feb 17, 2021 4:11 AM

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Am waiting whether this story will ever punish Rudy for his improper behavior, if not then I can safely call this show a hypocritical self-insert fanservice show.

I know that the show's point is about being a better person and learning from past mistakes but if this anime refuses to change the blantant indecentness of Rudy, then what's the point of learning from past mistakes?

Sore wa chigau yo! - Junko Enoshima, probably

Feb 17, 2021 4:30 AM

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DJ_Angelo

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Junko_Simp04 said:
Am waiting whether this story will ever punish Rudy for his improper behavior, if not then I can safely call this show a hypocritical self-insert fanservice show.

I know that the show's point is about being a better person and learning from past mistakes but if this anime refuses to change the blantant indecentness of Rudy, then what's the point of learning from past mistakes?

They already punished him for it litterally in the latest episode. He got beat up for what he did and the item he could have used for something sexual got destroyed. Last episode he had no rewards so yes he was punished

I don't know why people ask if he ever will get punished for it as if he gets away with everything and gets rewarded for it when it's not even true. Also all tho I think redeus will mature I do think he will always stay perverted which honestly is fine you can be a perv and have morality.

Feb 17, 2021 5:01 AM

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DJ_Angelo said:
They already punished him for it litterally in the latest episode. He got beat up for what he did and the item he could have used for something sexual got destroyed. Last episode he had no rewards so yes he was punished

I don't know why people ask if he ever will get punished for it as if he gets away with everything and gets rewarded for it when it's not even true. Also all tho I think redeus will mature I do think he will always stay perverted which honestly is fine you can be a perv and have morality.

Oh no! He got beat up in a classic tsundere fashion as a punishment for literally sexually assaulting a child in her sleep! Read what you're saying. If you grope a child irl do you think you'll get off with only a beating? LMAO.

Yes, this show does reward him. First, he never once gets a real punishment for his pedophile actions and second, he gets a happy ending where he he fucks multiple girls, if that isn't rewarding him then what is?

Feb 17, 2021 5:25 AM

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Toneworks said:

DJ_Angelo said:
They already punished him for it litterally in the latest episode. He got beat up for what he did and the item he could have used for something sexual got destroyed. Last episode he had no rewards so yes he was punished

I don't know why people ask if he ever will get punished for it as if he gets away with everything and gets rewarded for it when it's not even true. Also all tho I think redeus will mature I do think he will always stay perverted which honestly is fine you can be a perv and have morality.

Oh no! He got beat up in a classic tsundere fashion as a punishment for literally sexually assaulting a child in her sleep! Read what you're saying. If you grope a child irl do you think you'll get off with only a beating? LMAO.

Yes, this show does reward him. First, he never once gets a real punishment for his pedophile actions and second, he gets a happy ending where he he fucks multiple girls, if that isn't rewarding him then what is?

First of all yes if you grope a child in real life you don't get of with just a beating but your simple minded view forgot. two major factors.

One this isn't real Life it isn't the same setting here people can have more then one wife and shit.

Two. he is like what fUCKING 8 years old or something so yes he would get a beating in real life from his parents+ a lecture. I bet you want him to get his arm cut of or hung while being 8 or something but that ain't happening I hate to break it to you but any other punishement bigger wouldn't make sense considering he didn't even hit pubertity yet.

What you think a child goes to jail for groping another flat chested child? be realistic at best he would get snitched on and get a spanking from his parents.

Now on to your simple minded reward argument. Rudeus gets no rewards for things he didn't earn. He saved eris life that is why he got a job. He is talented at magic why? Because he learned at a young age.

Like him or not I don't care but everything rudeus earned is because he worked for it. He has a job and he is like fucking 8 or something don't devalue all of his good traits just because he has bad traits you don't like.

You're completely ignoring his effort with your biased offended hate. Rudeus didn't reincarnate with special powers like most isekai he used his young age a few years to spend time learning it we see it in the first episodes.

Same with his wives he didn't get wives because he was a pervert or assaulted them he got wives because he spend time with them. He helped them learn magic or something he was there in their life and that's all there is to it.

I get you hate rudeus and that's all fine and dandy but don't be blinded to all his effort because you don't like him.

DJ_AngeloFeb 17, 2021 5:31 AM

Feb 17, 2021 5:28 AM

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Oof, don't know what world your living in but getting punched doesn't seem like a "reward" to me.

Also, this is a new life, hes not an adult anymore. They literally call him a "baby".

If I get reborn as a spider, and I have full memories of me being an human and full knowledge up until the point I was reincarnated. Am I a spider or a human? Im a spider. Same applies for Rudeus, just because he was an adult in his old life and carried the knowledge and memories, doesn't make him an adult now.

Obviously, its still sexually assault which is just as bad. The difference is most of the time when people do sexually assault its not because of a mental illness.

Since sexually assault isn't a mental disorder and has a lower chance of people being for it. The only thing you can say is "The MC is a bad character currently" as for me, no real children are getting harmed and this is the most I've enjoyed an anime in a while so....

Also, if you wanna call me a "closet pedo" or whatever for liking an anime, do whatever you can to boost your ego-boner lmao.

I find it funny how people are too busy being offended by first AOT CGI and Mushoku Tensei's "pedophillia" to care about the messed up shit in Redo Of Healer.

I gave up on character of the week since it takes too much thinking. I'll just change my forum pfp to whoever I want every week lol.

Feb 17, 2021 5:30 AM

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sonkun911

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Damn does this anime really upset people so much? If these guys ever came around to watching game of thrones they would probably start thinking about ending the world.

Feb 17, 2021 5:45 AM

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I don't know why I keep coming back to these threads to read the various discussion and opinions, it's like an addiction.

We've had 6 episodes do far and what I know is, we aren't supposed to defend Rudy for his actions and literally call him out for what he does, nothing justifies what he did to Eris, I didn't want to be disgusted by the scene but when he gropped her I just felt like "RUDY, WTF ARE YOU DOING STOP!" and what made it worse was when he was going to remove her panties which I had to look away from but I knew Eris would wake up and beat him up.

You can look at his acts from many perspectives but most aren't positive. Firstly, I don't think Rudy stops to think of what he's doing or even the consequences and he comes from a modern world where laws are at the highest peak and sexual assault is a heinous crime and it's even more deplorable or disgusting when acted upon a child, knowing this he still acts upon his perversion because our Modern Day Laws don't affect the way he acts in his current world meaning he can do whatever without facing any punishment such as jail time and people in his world who do notice his perverted acts see him as creepy for example the maid and Roxy to a point.

Secondly, he isn't living his 34 year old self in the current world but a new life and new experiences to learn from and new parents. So far, people see him as a 7 year old pervert who steals, sniffs and worships the holy panties which in most cases can be funny to us viewers but we do notice the creepiness cause he is a 34 year old man, we never forget how old he is and we judge every action he takes based on his age, which I do agree is the right thing to do in the majority of cases, his acts might be seen as childish to his world but not to us.

Additionally,OK now the weird part which people might agree or highly disagree with but questions that should be asked, *what is he supposed to do as a 34 year old virgin now, or how long should he wait to lose his virginity, to whom or who should he have sex with, what is the right/acceptable age limit to have sex without bringing our modern laws into it and looking at it from the perspective of his current day laws or in other words medieval laws*.

Personally, I think 15 is the right age for Rudy to start having sex in his world (for example, people around his age and older but not lower than that) and by that time he would be 49 years old mentally. Now in a modern perspective it's a crime but considering the medieval laws then it is acceptable with consent from his partner. I would like Rudy to wait a but more but through Rudy's perspective I doubt he'll be able to wait till he's 18 years old to officially have sex and not be called a pedophile.

An unfair argument is that Rudy should be with people his mental age which is around 40-45 years, I don't think anyone in their right mind in Rudy's world would see him as a sexual partner considering his age and appearance and if Rudy tried to be in a relationship with someone who's 30+ while him being 40 mentally won't work, they'd laugh the shit out of them thinking this kid who's 7 or 10 years old is trying to hit on an older woman.

Finally, at the moment Rudy is a trashy perv, and this show is a long running anime series, and we can expect that Rudy will learn from his mistakes and face the consequences for his actions and grow but it'll be a long wait and we have to be patient.
Yes, we should 100% shit on him for being a pervert and to not defend or justify it, we as the viewers should watch how he goes through his journey in his second life and judge his actions based on morality, we should try to and understand why he does what he does, for example, if he does the same thing he did to Eris again then he's lower than trash and you can call him a pedo but we shouldn't just blatantly call him a pedo for no reason if he didn't do anything, which I think is unfair to him.

I'm enjoying the show so far, his perviness is funny sometimes but creepy in others and in those moments it can't be justified, I'll shit on him for his actions but when he does something good morally then I'll commend him for it, waiting to see how he changes. And now i hope I don't get shit for this😂

Feb 17, 2021 5:47 AM

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MAL really need to ban the word pedophilia for the time being, the amount of people using it

Feb 17, 2021 5:51 AM

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I mean, sure he's a pedophile. But it's not like all of the characters will stay as a child forever.

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Feb 17, 2021 6:09 AM

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He’s not really a pedo because he got reincarnated

Feb 17, 2021 6:13 AM

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DJ_Angelo

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White_Hollow said:
I mean, sure he's a pedophile. But it's not like all of the characters will stay as a child forever.

I mean to be honest he is not even Pedo in my eyes. We identify a pedo more with physical age rather then how they are mentally right?

so to me he is not really a pedo also it's not like he was very mentally mature to begin with as a shut in that was scared to go outside.

I mean i rather have him date the girls that are his age or older then him like eris then have a physical young child go date a 40 year old or something that be actual pedo stuff.

Because mentally or not his body is still not grown any adults hold a physical advantage over him and all of them view him still as a kid.

Feb 17, 2021 6:19 AM

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My little Isekai protagonist can't be this based

Feb 17, 2021 6:35 AM

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Are the people who are showering this anime with hate over one mc’s behaviour children. We’re sorry rudeus isn’t the perfect generic snowflake mc I’m not condoning his actions but your crying over some pretty petty details GROW UP

Feb 17, 2021 6:44 AM

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DJ_Angelo said:

Junko_Simp04 said:
Am waiting whether this story will ever punish Rudy for his improper behavior, if not then I can safely call this show a hypocritical self-insert fanservice show.

I know that the show's point is about being a better person and learning from past mistakes but if this anime refuses to change the blantant indecentness of Rudy, then what's the point of learning from past mistakes?

They already punished him for it litterally in the latest episode. He got beat up for what he did and the item he could have used for something sexual got destroyed. Last episode he had no rewards so yes he was punished

I don't know why people ask if he ever will get punished for it as if he gets away with everything and gets rewarded for it when it's not even true. Also all tho I think redeus will mature I do think he will always stay perverted which honestly is fine you can be a perv and have morality.

That's not really the kind of punishment I was hoping for... For me, I think an ideal scene would be: An adult confronts Rudy about his "behavior" and scolds him. Rudy then looks back on all the terrible things he has done and apologizes to all the women he wronged, looking for redemption. However, I don't expect immediate change even with this scene as I think I'd be hard for someone like him to let go of his bad desires.

Now, there's ALREADY a MAJOR RED FLAG in the anime when Rudy's father was seemingly okay with his son stealing panties of others. Did Paul not learn anything about the power of lust and indecentness? It almost broke his family ffs.

Sore wa chigau yo! - Junko Enoshima, probably

Feb 17, 2021 6:59 AM

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Junko_Simp04 said:

DJ_Angelo said:

They already punished him for it litterally in the latest episode. He got beat up for what he did and the item he could have used for something sexual got destroyed. Last episode he had no rewards so yes he was punished

I don't know why people ask if he ever will get punished for it as if he gets away with everything and gets rewarded for it when it's not even true. Also all tho I think redeus will mature I do think he will always stay perverted which honestly is fine you can be a perv and have morality.

That's not really the kind of punishment I was hoping for... For me, I think an ideal scene would be: An adult confronts Rudy about his "behavior" and scolds him. Rudy then looks back on all the terrible things he has done and apologizes to all the women he wronged, looking for redemption. However, I don't expect immediate change even with this scene as I think I'd be hard for someone like him to let go of his bad desires.

Now, there's ALREADY a MAJOR RED FLAG in the anime when Rudy's father was seemingly okay with his son stealing panties of others. Did Paul not learn anything about the power of lust and indecentness? It almost broke his family ffs.

Oh, I see that kind of punishment. Honestly I can only see it from his mom not his dad tho, but I don't think he has too bad stuff for it to be a lot of apologizes. Well the thing with Eris was pretty bad but i think it was one of those pervy person gets a touch but gets his ass beat moment.

Stealing roxy panties is not well nessecarrly super bad I would say but it is weird. But roxy seems to not really mind it too much.

there was that thing with sylphiette but he actually apologized for that. I don't see like a whole crazy apology moment happening I just think Rudeus is gonna mature properly this time with his second life also relax with recieving actual love.

Feb 17, 2021 7:18 AM

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DJ_Angelo said:

Junko_Simp04 said:

That's not really the kind of punishment I was hoping for... For me, I think an ideal scene would be: An adult confronts Rudy about his "behavior" and scolds him. Rudy then looks back on all the terrible things he has done and apologizes to all the women he wronged, looking for redemption. However, I don't expect immediate change even with this scene as I think I'd be hard for someone like him to let go of his bad desires.

Now, there's ALREADY a MAJOR RED FLAG in the anime when Rudy's father was seemingly okay with his son stealing panties of others. Did Paul not learn anything about the power of lust and indecentness? It almost broke his family ffs.

Oh, I see that kind of punishment. Honestly I can only see it from his mom not his dad tho, but I don't think he has too bad stuff for it to be a lot of apologizes. Well the thing with Eris was pretty bad but i think it was one of those pervy person gets a touch but gets his ass beat moment.

Stealing roxy panties is not well nessecarrly super bad I would say but it is weird. But roxy seems to not really mind it too much.

there was that thing with sylphiette but he actually apologized for that. I don't see like a whole crazy apology moment happening I just think Rudeus is gonna mature properly this time with his second life also relax with recieving actual love.

You know, the more I think about Rudy's dad finding about his son stealing panties, the more I think of a missed opportunity. Still early to call it one but I need to let it out.

Let me explain.

After the family gets their shit back together, Paul attempts to redeem himself and successfully does so. We get to the scene where he founds out that his son steals panties. Looking back on how his lust nearly obliterated his family, Paul immediately tries to reason with Rudy that the current track he's heading is dangerous. Rudy gives this a thought and tries to change but oh no! Mistress Temptation always finds way to infect our dear Rudy and makes him do indecent stuff. Here's where I think it begins: As Rudy is trying to make a "move" on a lady, a flashback of his dad's warning and his family's quarrell appears, making him think twice before doing "it".

This is a good start for character development for Rudy, at least in my perspective.

Sore wa chigau yo! - Junko Enoshima, probably

Feb 17, 2021 7:52 AM

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It's a fictional character...
Lmao why so serious

Feb 17, 2021 7:56 AM

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