What do you think ep6 fight scene would look like if WIT adapted this season?

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yaegerist-15 said:

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Straightforward post I hope, not much need to be explained.

BTW don't interpret the title as a MAPPA hater's thread

I personally think ep6 was quite disappointing; the CGI mappa created didn't really meet my expectations. I dont dislike CGI or mappa but it just didnt give me the same vibes the manga did. It felt like they cut away some details, and the whole fight scene felt shorter and more average than ever.

imo if WIT were to adapt this season(or at least this episode), they would at least make the fight scenes look more solid or visually appealing.

personally I felt like MAPPA did well with all the animations that were not related to fighting, but WIT did better overall in terms of the quality. Ep6 is the only episode so far where it felt like WIT was the only studio that could handle the work.

wouldnt be better with this timeframe. I mean even eren vs reiner round 2 wasnt that good like the first fight in season 2. And I think they did the wht vs at fight a little bit better than that.

true, we dont need 10 hours of characters fighting. To the anime onlies the scene could have felt great, but to the manga readers the scene is lacking a bit of spirit. After all I dont watch the show for the fights, but for the world building and plot.

Jan 19, 2021 9:49 PM

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Saber_Evergarden said:

yaegerist-15 said:

wouldnt be better with this timeframe. I mean even eren vs reiner round 2 wasnt that good like the first fight in season 2. And I think they did the wht vs at fight a little bit better than that.

true, we dont need 10 hours of characters fighting. To the anime onlies the scene could have felt great, but to the manga readers the scene is lacking a bit of spirit. After all I dont watch the show for the fights, but for the world building and plot.

well Im a manga reader and the fight was decent. Ofc is could be better but I think the ost and cinematography/direction also lacked a bit. If these points would be a 10/10 then I wouldnt mind the cgi. Though Im fine with the cgi, only the attack titan and beast titan are wonky sometimes

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Jan 19, 2021 9:51 PM

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yaegerist-15 said:

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true, we dont need 10 hours of characters fighting. To the anime onlies the scene could have felt great, but to the manga readers the scene is lacking a bit of spirit. After all I dont watch the show for the fights, but for the world building and plot.

well Im a manga reader and the fight was decent. Ofc is could be better but I think the ost and cinematography/direction also lacked a bit. If these points would be a 10/10 then I wouldnt mind the cgi. Though Im fine with the cgi, only the attack titan and beast titan are wonky sometimes

oh yes and the sound tracks/ost... not gonna lie if they were used better then I dont think anyone would mind the cgi.

Probably the best thing I enjoyed the most so far is Pieck crawling on four...

Jan 19, 2021 10:11 PM

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with worse cgi. If they had a schedule aot animation would have looked like their previous works but thats why nobody picked it up

Jan 19, 2021 10:46 PM

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Saber_Evergarden said:
Straightforward post I hope, not much need to be explained.

BTW don't interpret the title as a MAPPA hater's thread

I personally think ep6 was quite disappointing; the CGI mappa created didn't really meet my expectations. I dont dislike CGI or mappa but it just didnt give me the same vibes the manga did. It felt like they cut away some details, and the whole fight scene felt shorter and more average than ever.

imo if WIT were to adapt this season(or at least this episode), they would at least make the fight scenes look more solid or visually appealing.

personally I felt like MAPPA did well with all the animations that were not related to fighting, but WIT did better overall in terms of the quality. Ep6 is the only episode so far where it felt like WIT was the only studio that could handle the work.

with the same amount of time no it might have even been worse because wit has less staff so yeah it would be hell for them but if the schedule was good mappa could to do the exact same as wit did with previous seasons

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Jan 19, 2021 10:59 PM

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If WIT Studio did it then it would have been amazing like always but I'm not complaining that much with MAPPA Studio either, the choreography, OST, directing and those good stuff was still pretty good on MAPPA Studio.

My only complaint so far is the overuse of CGI, other than that it was a solid episode.

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imo if WIT were to adapt this season(or at least this episode), they would at least make the fight scenes look more solid or visually appealing.
Your opinion is invalid since WIT themselves said that they cannot adapt the final season because they are not capable enough to adapt it.Wit would've dropped Aot even if they hadn't got Great Pretender because they cannot handle such a massive project so they gave it to a bigger studio.It would've been a lot more worse if Wit were to adapt the final season.

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Jan 20, 2021 3:29 AM

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If MAPPA had more time, i think it would've been better or equally comparable to WIT's best fights. Just look at the animation of The God of High School or Jujutsu Kaisen...

But also, at the same time there are sometimes really beautiful scenes, even if they're not long. You can see that they're trying to squeeze out as much as they can out of their schedule.

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Saber_Evergarden said:
Straightforward post I hope, not much need to be explained.

BTW don't interpret the title as a MAPPA hater's thread

I personally think ep6 was quite disappointing; the CGI mappa created didn't really meet my expectations. I dont dislike CGI or mappa but it just didnt give me the same vibes the manga did. It felt like they cut away some details, and the whole fight scene felt shorter and more average than ever.

imo if WIT were to adapt this season(or at least this episode), they would at least make the fight scenes look more solid or visually appealing.

personally I felt like MAPPA did well with all the animations that were not related to fighting, but WIT did better overall in terms of the quality. Ep6 is the only episode so far where it felt like WIT was the only studio that could handle the work.

With the same schedule to adhere to? Awful.

Jan 20, 2021 3:33 AM

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Probably worse than Eren vs Reiner in s3p2 let that sink in... that is if Imai wasn't working in it that would be a different story

Jan 20, 2021 3:36 AM

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Atleast we would have gotten some sakuga scenes or the important scenes would have been given justice, in these eps the staff clealy don't know what is important and what is not or they have problems in managment

Jan 20, 2021 3:40 AM

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I do not think it's a matter of which studio does it, it is a matter of the time evolved.

For example, if you give the same person the same cut but two different time frames; one time frame gives two days to animate it while the other gives one day to animate it, the quality is going to be very different.

So, like I said, the studio doesn't really matter. Under the time frame Kodansha placed, any studio would've fucked up.

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Atleast we would have gotten some sakuga scenes or the important scenes would have been given justice, in these eps the staff clealy don't know what is important and what is not or they have problems in managment

imai did most of these scenes, and freelancer wont work with such a schedule :(

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Jan 20, 2021 3:42 AM

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I do not think it's a matter of which studio does it, it is a matter of the time evolved.

For example, if you give the same person the same cut but two different time frames; one time frame gives two days to animate it while the other gives one day to animate it, the quality is going to be very different.

So, like I said, the studio doesn't really matter. Under the time frame Kodansha placed, any studio would've fucked up.

spitting right here, really I believe season 4 would be on par with season 2 quality if mappa had 6-8 months more time

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Jan 20, 2021 3:42 AM

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you want a realistic answer? WIT quit the final season because of lack of production time so if they given then enough time then sure they can animate it very good even MAPPA can animate it better in 2D too

the problem is the lack of time

Jan 20, 2021 3:42 AM

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Anyways, what I personally think is that Mappa is prioritizing the wrong scenes. They should definitely provide more priority to the action episodes than the other episodes for example episode two.

Episode two has splendid animation and art. The episode overall felt very ALIVE and it had spirit. This is something which I felt episode 6 lacked, spirit. This is where I think Wit would've probably done better than Mappa because they would've prioritized bringing such an important scene to life.

Jan 20, 2021 3:48 AM

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ABDoesThings said:
Anyways, what I personally think is that Mappa is prioritizing the wrong scenes. They should definitely provide more priority to the action episodes than the other episodes for example episode two.

Episode two has splendid animation and art. The episode overall felt very ALIVE and it had spirit. This is something which I felt episode 6 lacked, spirit. This is where I think Wit would've probably done better than Mappa because they would've prioritized bringing such an important scene to life.

action scenes needs more drawings that is time consuming and it needs super animators but super animators will not be attracted to an anime project where they lack time to draw good

imo super animators can be choosy on what anime project they work with since they are rare and so they are highly in demand in the anime industry (Animator Shortage Crisis effect)

so if you do not have any super animators then 3DCG animation is the way to go

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ABDoesThings said:
Anyways, what I personally think is that Mappa is prioritizing the wrong scenes. They should definitely provide more priority to the action episodes than the other episodes for example episode two.

Episode two has splendid animation and art. The episode overall felt very ALIVE and it had spirit. This is something which I felt episode 6 lacked, spirit. This is where I think Wit would've probably done better than Mappa because they would've prioritized bringing such an important scene to life.

Yeah Mappa is more chaotic in their productions and that also results in terrible management and wrong priorities.

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Saber_Evergarden said:

yaegerist-15 said:

wouldnt be better with this timeframe. I mean even eren vs reiner round 2 wasnt that good like the first fight in season 2. And I think they did the wht vs at fight a little bit better than that.

true, we dont need 10 hours of characters fighting. To the anime onlies the scene could have felt great, but to the manga readers the scene is lacking a bit of spirit. After all I dont watch the show for the fights, but for the world building and plot.

lamo what...its better and more impactful than manga i caught upto 105 ch and Honestly as a manga reader this is way better lmao...and the amount of accuracy is so good and that scene where hammer is former on the palm of war hammer dude... that was so freaking dope...as a manga reader this scene was wayyyyy better and thrilling than manga lol

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deg said:

ABDoesThings said:
Anyways, what I personally think is that Mappa is prioritizing the wrong scenes. They should definitely provide more priority to the action episodes than the other episodes for example episode two.

Episode two has splendid animation and art. The episode overall felt very ALIVE and it had spirit. This is something which I felt episode 6 lacked, spirit. This is where I think Wit would've probably done better than Mappa because they would've prioritized bringing such an important scene to life.

action scenes needs more drawings that is time consuming and it needs super animators but super animators will not be attracted to an anime project where they lack time to draw good

imo super animators can be choosy on what anime project they work with since they are rare and so they are highly in demand in the anime industry (Animator Shortage Crisis effect)

so if you do not have any super animators then 3DCG animation is the way to go

would you say one of the 11 ADs for episode 7 is a super animator or at least a very good animator for sakuga scenes?

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Jan 20, 2021 4:08 AM

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yaegerist-15 said:

deg said:

action scenes needs more drawings that is time consuming and it needs super animators but super animators will not be attracted to an anime project where they lack time to draw good

imo super animators can be choosy on what anime project they work with since they are rare and so they are highly in demand in the anime industry (Animator Shortage Crisis effect)

so if you do not have any super animators then 3DCG animation is the way to go

would you say one of the 11 ADs for episode 7 is a super animator or at least a very good animator for sakuga scenes?

im not sure did you hear any super key animator among the ADs there? i have not heard any except the good ADs and CAD of Vinland Saga and they usually do still frames/drawings more

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deg said:

yaegerist-15 said:

would you say one of the 11 ADs for episode 7 is a super animator or at least a very good animator for sakuga scenes?

im not sure did you hear any super key animator among the ADs there? i have not heard any except the good ADs and CAD of Vinland Saga and they usually do still frames/drawings more

2 of them did key animations in the previous aot seasons (action packed episodes)

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Jan 20, 2021 4:11 AM

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yaegerist-15 said:

deg said:

im not sure did you hear any super key animator among the ADs there? i have not heard any except the good ADs and CAD of Vinland Saga and they usually do still frames/drawings more

2 of them did key animations in the previous aot seasons (action packed episodes)

then a 2D sakuga is a possibility maybe 1-2 cuts for both of them

add vercreek too he said he is working on future episodes of Attack on Titan while he is not a super animator since he is just a newbie he is good enough and will keep on improving

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