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Dec 7, 2020 2:53 PM
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The score has decreased 0.02 just today, I noticed recently a hundred of accounts spamming 1s & 2s Gintama° and other top animes, but it seems that it's affected Gintama more as it has fewer voters. This is the first time I see the failure of the Illegitimate Account Detection System since its release last February.
So there isn't much to discuss about this, I just wanted to bring the attention of the mods to this issue.

Edit (Dec 10th): LOGH score dropped 0.02 too.
Edit (Dec 11th): FMAB score dropped 0.01.
Hachii13Dec 11, 2020 3:06 AM
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Dec 7, 2020 2:58 PM
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The score drop actually happened yesterday. The score dropping doesn't make sense considering Logh hasnt dropped. Either way, vote manipulation is scummy and it sucks that the rank dropped 3 placements out of the blue.
Dec 7, 2020 2:59 PM
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aot fanbois are angry i guess
Dec 7, 2020 3:21 PM
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The AOT toxic fanboys because they got 2nd place yesterday. And boasting as a GOAT but in reality its an overhyped anime. But now the mod evens out the upvoters and downvoters and starting the overall score to decreased. Overall the score should be back from on hopefully
Dec 7, 2020 3:46 PM
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i really don't understand those certain AOT fans who made soooooooo many accounts just to see AOT to be no.1 but still fail

also,some of those people actually made other accounts where they're pretend like they are not AOT fans but other anime fans like Gintama or FMAB or HXH,then downvote other top rank anime except AOT
they make it like they are not the only fanbase that doing it,but other fanbases too

how wicked do you think is that ? ridiculous
Dec 8, 2020 8:03 AM
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It will get back soon enough as more people complete the previous seasons and start watching this one.
HUNTER X HUNTER HAS RETURNED!!!!!!!
Dec 8, 2020 9:02 AM
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This is disgusting, really. So yesterday at 17:34 the number of users that gave Gintama 2/10 was 985 and of those that gave it 1/10 was 3604 (This is already after the 0.02 rating drop) Today at 17:46 it is 1030 for 2/10 and 3650 for 1/10. I made screens at those times. So it's 91 accounts in one day. Of course we talk about accounts like these:
https://myanimelist.net/profile/LamjingbiSagols
https://myanimelist.net/animelist/Harrystyle3656g
https://myanimelist.net/animelist/mhdmhhd
https://myanimelist.net/animelist/Muhammedalryhaw
https://myanimelist.net/animelist/yom37562
https://myanimelist.net/animelist/vfj50824

And so on. Sometimes they give it even 3-5 to camouflage it better. All those accounts are few hours or days old or they are ones that were used in other up/downvoting before the new scoring system. Funny thing is that they claim they want to take throne from FMA but when their series goes near any other series that obviously isn't FMA, they start downvoting that one as well... Really amazing...
Dec 8, 2020 9:34 AM
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Aot fandom is most disgusting fanbase
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Dec 8, 2020 9:40 AM
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BOOHOO THE RATING IS GOING DOWN, AOT FANBASE DISGUSTING, HOW DARE THEY REDUCE THIS BUNCH OF PIXELS ON MY SCREEN BY A FEW HUNDRETHS, THIS IS SERIOUS DAMAGE TO

This anime shit is addictive
Dec 8, 2020 9:45 AM

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spectrojan said:
BOOHOO THE RATING IS GOING DOWN, AOT FANBASE DISGUSTING, HOW DARE THEY REDUCE THIS BUNCH OF PIXELS ON MY SCREEN BY A FEW HUNDRETHS, THIS IS SERIOUS DAMAGE TO



What did the Gintama fanbase do to you man? I actually like One Piece from what I've read so far. I don't understand why you have to constantly announce you hate an anime.
Dec 8, 2020 10:33 AM

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dewwm said:
spectrojan said:
BOOHOO THE RATING IS GOING DOWN, AOT FANBASE DISGUSTING, HOW DARE THEY REDUCE THIS BUNCH OF PIXELS ON MY SCREEN BY A FEW HUNDRETHS, THIS IS SERIOUS DAMAGE TO



What did the Gintama fanbase do to you man? I actually like One Piece from what I've read so far. I don't understand why you have to constantly announce you hate an anime.


Lol what I like Gintama. I rated season 4 a 9. I just think people shouldn't be crying about ratings, they should enjoy what they enjoy
This anime shit is addictive
Dec 8, 2020 10:36 AM

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spectrojan said:
dewwm said:


What did the Gintama fanbase do to you man? I actually like One Piece from what I've read so far. I don't understand why you have to constantly announce you hate an anime.


Lol what I like Gintama. I rated season 4 a 9. I just think people shouldn't be crying about ratings, they should enjoy what they enjoy


Ah I get you. Yeah, my opinion on Gintama won't change no matter the score but still sad to see the score dropping abruptly.
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spectrojan said:
dewwm said:


What did the Gintama fanbase do to you man? I actually like One Piece from what I've read so far. I don't understand why you have to constantly announce you hate an anime.


Lol what I like Gintama. I rated season 4 a 9. I just think people shouldn't be crying about ratings, they should enjoy what they enjoy
if the rating going down because of more natural reason,i'm sure most of gintama fans will be fine,but if it's because people with clone accounts that do it,people won't just accept it,although i don't really care with what rank this season gets,it's just the act by those people that unacceptable in my eyes
Dec 8, 2020 2:41 PM

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Yes, ik! I realized yesterday after looking at AOT 4 ranking in the Top Anime, but I think it will get back up!
Dec 8, 2020 4:16 PM

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Omegeria said:
If you really disliked the show that much, you’d stop in a season or two(or in Gintama’s case idk maybe 50 episodes?)

They haven't even see it, they are just ruining the top ranking whenever a new season of AOT released.
Dec 8, 2020 4:21 PM

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I like how every fanbase calls the other one toxic. Creating these kind of threads which makes more hates is the worst.
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ItsNoux said:
I like how every fanbase calls the other one toxic. Creating these kind of threads which makes more hates is the worst.
I didn't mention any fanbase tho!
Dec 9, 2020 5:48 AM

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It just pisses me off as Aot is actually a good anime and it has the worst fandom ever. I used to think no one can surpass Mha's fandom in terms of toxicity but I guess I was wrong
Dec 9, 2020 10:13 AM

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cythraul said:

ItsNoux said:
I like how every fanbase calls the other one toxic. Creating these kind of threads which makes more hates is the worst.
Yeah it's not like you ever checked stats lmao.


Checking stats and creating thread about stats aren't the same!
And why should i care about that? because you do?
Dec 9, 2020 10:24 AM

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HaChiiman said:
ItsNoux said:
I like how every fanbase calls the other one toxic. Creating these kind of threads which makes more hates is the worst.
I didn't mention any fanbase tho!


Yes you didn't, but you see those replys... I'm pretty sure that you saw that coming.
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I agree with V1D1T. The sad thing is that AoT and MHA are great shows (although I would say moreso the unadapted parts of the manga for MHA), but their fanbases are AWFUL. Both have awful ship cultures and fans who want to shove down your throat how great the show is. I won't deny that the Gintama fanbase doesn't not have those either (but then again, which Shonen anime doesn't?), but it's a lot more lowkey, we don't INSIST that it is the best anime, and we don't get angry if someone disagrees with us. It's likely due to the fact that the two previously mentioned fanbases have a much younger demographic, but let kids be kids I guess.
Dec 9, 2020 7:33 PM

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Ya hate to see it. At least Enchousen is still top 10 :>
Dec 10, 2020 6:25 AM

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ItsNoux said:
cythraul said:

Yeah it's not like you ever checked stats lmao.


Checking stats and creating thread about stats aren't the same!
And why should i care about that? because you do?
No one is telling you to care but then again you cared enough to post on this topic which is mainly about stats.
Dec 10, 2020 9:05 AM

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> AoT fanboys
> Not HxH fanboys
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Dec 10, 2020 9:13 AM

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I just cant believe that adults exist that additional to their main account create throwaway accounts to push/decrease an completely irrelevant score of a Japanese cartoon.
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Dec 10, 2020 9:31 AM

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So LOGH moves down to 9.08? How? It was just at 9.10.
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dewwm said:
The score drop actually happened yesterday. The score dropping doesn't make sense considering Logh hasnt dropped. Either way, vote manipulation is scummy and it sucks that the rank dropped 3 placements out of the blue.

Now LOGH score dropped 0.02 too
Dec 10, 2020 11:08 AM

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MAL's rating system has gone insane. I don't care about it anymore. Its messed up pretty badly
Dec 10, 2020 11:41 AM

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Yup, just noticed Gintama° dropped from 9.11 to 9.09 and LOGH from 9.10 to 9.08, probably because of the recent start of SNK S4


Maybe we'll just have to wait for the anti-bot system to work, same thing happened lately with Tian Guan Ci Fu when its score dropped from 8.72 to something like 8.52, but it went up again after the trolls were cleaned
Dec 10, 2020 12:26 PM

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Damuzen said:
Yup, just noticed Gintama° dropped from 9.11 to 9.09 and LOGH from 9.10 to 9.08, probably because of the recent start of SNK S4


Maybe we'll just have to wait for the anti-bot system to work, same thing happened lately with Tian Guan Ci Fu when its score dropped from 8.72 to something like 8.52, but it went up again after the trolls were cleaned


I still see Tian Guan Ci Fu at 8.54 but there's no way 6% of 1s isn't out of spite. I don't get why people feel the need to downvote and make multiple accounts. The scores will settle naturally over time.
Dec 10, 2020 10:15 PM
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Thesaurust said:
The AOT toxic fanboys because they got 2nd place yesterday. And boasting as a GOAT but in reality its an overhyped anime. But now the mod evens out the upvoters and downvoters and starting the overall score to decreased. Overall the score should be back from on hopefully



AOT fanbase became toxic because when the first episode aired it had a rating of 9.22
And was brought down to 9.12 and within hours to 9.08 and now to 9.06 so who is responsible for this uh,other fandoms?
No
It's fmab fanboys mostly,so fmab went on to downvote gintama,lotgh,etc,that is why AOT fan base became angry,
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I agree with V1D1T. The sad thing is that AoT and MHA are great shows (although I would say moreso the unadapted parts of the manga for MHA), but their fanbases are AWFUL. Both have awful ship cultures and fans who want to shove down your throat how great the show is. I won't deny that the Gintama fanbase doesn't not have those either (but then again, which Shonen anime doesn't?), but it's a lot more lowkey, we don't INSIST that it is the best anime, and we don't get angry if someone disagrees with us. It's likely due to the fact that the two previously mentioned fanbases have a much younger demographic, but let kids be kids I guess.


No I don't think so

When s2 aired AOT had a rating of 8.99
Over a long time and within a year dropped to 8.5 now it is 8.41,when s3 came out it had a rating of 9.12 again for a long time and dropped to 8.6 now it is 8.55,when s3 P2 aired it finished 2 nd on the table but brought down to 7th, this happens every time an AOT season comes out,what should have in top 50 for all season is now not even there in top 100,so
aOT fans are pissed as to why their ratings drop so low ,

IMDb is the only place I trust now because in IMDb AOT has an average of 8.8 considering all seasons but when you take a rough average of all on mal it has a rating of 8.6, up unitll S4,

On IMDb s1 has a rating of 8.9,
S2: has a rating of 9.2
S3: has a rating of 9.2
S3p2 :has a rating of 9.7

On Mal
S1:8.45(understand able)
S2:8.41(heavily underrated)
S3:8.55(Again even more underrated)
S3P2:9.08(a gap of 0.62)

I am not considered S4 because it's not over

So overall the hate for AOT is ginormous
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Toxic fans suck, watch something before you rate it smh
Dec 10, 2020 10:39 PM
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Haven't watched gintama but having accounts made just for the sake of lowering a show's score is the most pointless shit ever.

All the AOT hype and people wanting to dethrone FMAB is legit the dumbest thing I've seen, I don't understand why people actually go out of their way to contribute to that cesspool.


Dude if Mappa pull it off then the dethrone thing is legit ,and AOT should take the top spot on mal, because every manga reader,every otaku agrees ,even the anime man ,that AOT is a masterpiece manga,9 dosent mean Masterpiece,it means great ,the others who don't want it higher ,just hates it because it is soo damn good

But if mappa makes it average at best
Then your argument about AOT fans I will take it as an agreement
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Dude if Mappa pull it off then the dethrone thing is legit ,and AOT should take the top spot on mal, because every manga reader,every otaku agrees ,even the anime man ,that AOT is a masterpiece manga,9 dosent mean Masterpiece,it means great ,the others who don't want it higher ,just hates it because it is soo damn good

But if mappa makes it average at best
Then your argument about AOT fans I will take it as an agreement


I agree that if it is that good it should take the top spot on mal. I would honestly be happy if it did since I like the show. I just hated seeing how many people rated it 10 or 1 after a single episode, like I get that if it sticks to the manga it'll be amazing. It was just after seeing this thread I feel it's all getting kinda ridiculous.



Too much everyone is doing😂,but FMAB they are the one who started all this shit , because their score dosent drop even after 1000 users rating it 1 for about 7 hours ,😂😂,

This is so stupid why can't they just ignore it , if a fanbase rating it's show a 10/10 it's not harming any other shows rating ,but we have people who just can't stfu and rate AOT 1/10 within one episode ,that shows that AOT is hated too much not only here

But even on IMDb 5.7% rating it 1/10 for the first episode

And in those comment section they have ridiculous reasons like

The episode was awesome I loved it ,but we have to wait for a week ,this is stupids ,I am tired of this
And then rate the episode 1/10
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Mack_Yeager said:
D95 said:
Haven't watched gintama but having accounts made just for the sake of lowering a show's score is the most pointless shit ever.

All the AOT hype and people wanting to dethrone FMAB is legit the dumbest thing I've seen, I don't understand why people actually go out of their way to contribute to that cesspool.


Dude if Mappa pull it off then the dethrone thing is legit ,and AOT should take the top spot on mal, because every manga reader,every otaku agrees ,even the anime man ,that AOT is a masterpiece manga,9 dosent mean Masterpiece,it means great ,the others who don't want it higher ,just hates it because it is soo damn good

But if mappa makes it average at best
Then your argument about AOT fans I will take it as an agreement


I think everyone agrees that Attack on Titan Final Season is going to be great. But that doesn't mean fans have rate other shows 1/10 or 2/10 just so that it could reach on top. Plus its just one episode, atleast watch until 4-5ep and then rate it. If manga fans know that it is going to be a masterpiece then just rate the manga. Rating it 10/10 now is just triggering others in rating it 1/10 and destroying the whole anime. Hell I love AOT but its fandom just pisses me off.
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I told yall we will have another holy war on this sht and not surprising that Gintama and Logh is the main victim here
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No I don't think so

When s2 aired AOT had a rating of 8.99
Over a long time and within a year dropped to 8.5 now it is 8.41,when s3 came out it had a rating of 9.12 again for a long time and dropped to 8.6 now it is 8.55,when s3 P2 aired it finished 2 nd on the table but brought down to 7th, this happens every time an AOT season comes out,what should have in top 50 for all season is now not even there in top 100,so
aOT fans are pissed as to why their ratings drop so low ,

If an anime's score dropped so much after it finished airing, that's not always due to spams. Erased 2 eps before its end it had 9.14, now it is 8.39.
Dec 11, 2020 8:43 AM
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Wonder if mods are observing this and planning to make changes and brigaders have become smarter with their scores
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PrasantGrG said:
Wonder if mods are observing this and planning to make changes and brigaders have become smarter with their scores

I don't think so, all I see is a thousands of illegitimate accounts as usual
Dec 11, 2020 9:27 AM
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HaChiiman said:
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Wonder if mods are observing this and planning to make changes and brigaders have become smarter with their scores

I don't think so, all I see is a thousands of illegitimate accounts as usual


Spamming 3s, 5s and such are likely detected less than troll 1s by the system so I guess they're more effective
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PrasantGrG said:
HaChiiman said:

I don't think so, all I see is a thousands of illegitimate accounts as usual


Spamming 3s, 5s and such are likely detected less than troll 1s by the system so I guess they're more effective

This is possible. I thought that the system can detects the trolls no matter how they vote
Dec 12, 2020 8:28 AM

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They've also switched to rating it a 3/10, but are giving all of the other top shows a 10/10. I don't know why Gintama is being targeted so specifically though.
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They've also switched to rating it a 3/10, but are giving all of the other top shows a 10/10. I don't know why Gintama is being targeted so specifically though.

No, all anime in the top 10 are targeted, Gintama and LOGH have always been the most affected series because they have fewer voters.
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Just remember if there were no spammers, this show would be at the top, and that alone does the justice for me.
Dec 12, 2020 12:53 PM
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Oh boo hoo, I guess the only possible explanation for your favorite things score going down MUST just be spams
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I told yall we will have another holy war on this sht and not surprising that Gintama and Logh is the main victim here
which is a shame,because they are the only top 10's anime that actually deserve to be on the top 10(maybe sangetsu s2 too),when the rest is just overrated af shows with toxic fanbases(yes fmab,i'm looking at you).
And yes,i've watched all the top 10 before making such statement.
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