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Oct 16, 2009 7:08 AM
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whats the big deal about 20somethings liking naruto? Im 22 (1987) and i like it. Im going to get my MDA next year.And even when im working il still be reading naruto...well if it still exists lol =P
Oct 16, 2009 7:28 AM

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nice !! nxt will be killer bee vs kisame....
Oct 16, 2009 7:33 AM

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The first alliance in the shinobi wolrd, who of the two groups is going to win?..

Idon`t know but i hope this become more awewsome, jjaja.

And killer bee vs. Kisame, Sakura and Naruto what are going to happen between they?
Oct 16, 2009 7:53 AM

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Asteriks said:
kitty_ninja said:
yup totally. we're not old fudd duddies! we like interesting stuff be it believeable or not.
Well, it really doesn't mean a thing how old you are, as long as you enjoy in something, but Fai, who is 25 or 26 years old, and don't have anything better to do in life (when you're that old, you should have some goals), than trashing something which obviously isn't for his age.
I rather find it sad, really.


Look this up, kid and then stfu: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion

Sayuri-Hime said:

Fai, you're such a pessimist. The plot is starting to move along so well and you're still bitching. Get over it and get off this forum man, seriously. You say the same shit every week and I'm sick of hearing/reading it.


Problem is not "plot advancing".

The problem is plot advancing into ridiculous direction.

I'll admit - I am reading this just to finish this manga as I hate dropping something after reading ~400+ chapters of it.

Ever since the start of Part II Kishi was pulling shit out of his ass, however nothing was as stupid as what began at the end of Pain arc.

Its like watching really bad anime, something like Gundam Seed, where you get ridiculous things thrown at you and yet still try to finish it out of whatever respect you had for author during the start of it.

Kishimoto has not advanced the plot, he has already messed it up.




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Lets see:

Having Minato do some sort of Xanatos Roulette?

Gimping and then Killing off realistic villain like Pain so Uchiha "I_Conquer_the_world" Madara can lead as main villain?

Reviving every and every fodder character killed by aforementioned villain, thus making the whole arc pointless?'

Throwing away the only female Akatsuki without her getting any sort of real fight? (I mean she just stands there as if making tea and then we get "and she went on to her country" shit)

Pitting Sauce against ALL THE KAGES and still having him come out alive?

Pitting Sauce against all the Kages?

Having Main evil cliche villain want to put an eye on the moon?

Having him blurt out his plan?

Throwing away the idea of the new ninja war with hidden villages going against each other again and instead introducing some stupid "Evil Madara World Conqueror vs all the good villages" crap?

Making KAKASHI the leader of aforementioned Alliance?(instead of someone OLDER and wiser, like, lets say any of Kages or frogs?)

Pulling out the new and shiny never-before-mentioned ten tailed beast who now sports a sharinnegan?


Having main character show up for 2 panels once in five chapters?

Having aforementioned main character go emo in each of these panels?

Hyping Kisame as some sort of chakra god who uses a magic sword ? (while it certainly would have been easier to just spit some "he's a shark sage" crap)
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Now Kishi did introduce the interesting stuff too, like The backstory of Uchiha and Senju and the Sage Mode, but the crap so far outweighs any sort of positive story development.

Its like there's no pre-planned plot and characters run around doing whatever Kishi thinks up that second
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Oct 16, 2009 8:31 AM

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Instant Bijuu chakra levels XD

Oh yeah
Killer Bee vs. Kisame
This is going to be killer!
Oct 16, 2009 8:32 AM

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YEEEAAA!!! I love Kisame! I can't wait to see his fight against killer bee. Gaara is a fantastic Kazekage; so wise. And is Kakashi the next Hokage or what?! AND what do they mean when they say, Naruto is going to take a break? For how long exactly? I'm just too anxious to wait!! Awesome chapter :D
Oct 16, 2009 8:52 AM

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LOL, especially the "Shark Sage"! Damn I wish I could put all that in my sig.

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Oct 16, 2009 9:16 AM
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Fai said:


Look this up, kid and then stfu
As soon as I noticed STFU abbreviation, I didn't bother reading entire post.
Oct 16, 2009 9:40 AM

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The alliance is up, and ther search for both Naruto and Killer Bee. Though eager to see that battle between Kisame and Killer Bee as well as the outcome (should be interesting, since both use swords as well as have high level chakras under their control).
Oct 16, 2009 10:10 AM

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Great chapter and finally somebody realizes that Kakashi is more capable for the alliance than Danzou.
I'm looking forward to the next chapter, Killer bee vs Kisame will be refreshing.
Oct 16, 2009 11:23 AM

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looking forward to Kisame and Killerbee's fight <3 !


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Oct 16, 2009 12:04 PM

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so we finally get to see kisame in action YESSSSS!!!!!!!
Oct 16, 2009 1:01 PM

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@Fai: Referring to your most recent post, the sad thing is your right. I like the way the story is moving though but yea. A lot of plot and shit that just doesn't add up in the past 40+ chapters.
Oct 16, 2009 1:58 PM

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The kages formed the shinobi alliance and Kisame found Killer Bee. Looking forward to the next.



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Oct 16, 2009 2:11 PM

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I think Fai should keep bitching and moaning no matter how annoying it becomes, because his opinion is just that. And I'm sure you are a busy guy Fai, but since you seem to be an expert at story development; have you ever considered writing stories yourself? Have you already written stories? I'd love to read how an enticing plot is developed!
Oct 16, 2009 2:50 PM

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People shouldn't talk crap about age.

Fai overreacted, I can't complain, because he does have a point, but I don't agree this chapter would be any worse than anything we've saw so far.

It had some good points. Obviously the Kages needed to talk about what to do next. Nothing really awesome there, yet they did talk and decide something.

I don't think they chose the Alliance leader yet, even if they did Konoha does not have any known characters that would be up to the job.If Kakashi were chosen as Konoha representative it would be a resoanable choice, as for now, I can't really think of anyone both strong and famous in Konoha. Yet, I can't see him being appointed as the Alliance leader, that would be too much.

As for Kisame, that talk about having as much chackra as a Tailed Beast didn't bother me. It sounded more like a exaggeration from that mist shinobi.




Oct 16, 2009 3:10 PM

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whooo Kisame is back :P
Oct 16, 2009 3:28 PM

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R-Zero said:

Fai overreacted, I can't complain, because he does have a point, but I don't agree this chapter would be any worse than anything we've saw so far.


Yes I did overreact a bit, considering my main complaint was Kakashi_as_leader stuff, which, after reading a better translations seems as if its not set in stone yet.

R-Zero said:

It had some good points. Obviously the Kages needed to talk about what to do next. Nothing really awesome there, yet they did talk and decide something.


But you see, that contrasts really hard on how kage meeting went. I expected tension, false accusations, etc.

Surely going into generic "everyone vs big bad" mode was unavoidable but I expected a lot more of atmospheric feuds during the talks.

Now it seems as if all kages, who were at each other's throats ideologically and physically suddenly all have the same outlook on everything and anything....

R-Zero said:

I don't think they chose the Alliance leader yet, even if they did Konoha does not have any known characters that would be up to the job.If Kakashi were chosen as Konoha representative it would be a resoanable choice, as for now, I can't really think of anyone both strong and famous in Konoha. Yet, I can't see him being appointed as the Alliance leader, that would be too much.


If anything Kishi has the guts to try that. Its clear that its going to be a fan-favoured character and we all kno on just how much Kakashi is popular in the yaoi-fangirl population of japan.


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As for Kisame, that talk about having as much chackra as a Tailed Beast didn't bother me. It sounded more like a exaggeration from that mist shinobi.


Oh but:
- in past "as evil as that of Uchiha Madara" sounded like exaggerated sentence about legend/myth.
- Rikkudou created the moon sounded like exaggeration.
- "Battle between First and Madara Created this valley"sounded like exaggeration.

I would not put it past the kishi to do that, alongside to some sort of "Artificial Tailed Beast Shroud" technique....
Oct 16, 2009 3:55 PM

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Fai said:


There should have been an 0/5 option, seriously. While Bleach seems to have regained its awesomeness


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
Oct 16, 2009 4:01 PM

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Dreamtheater2112 said:
Fai said:


There should have been an 0/5 option, seriously. While Bleach seems to have regained its awesomeness


LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL


Let's compare:

THis chapter:
Bleach: Plot moves on, Main char gets personality upgrade.
Naruto: lets junite against evil oh and that guy is liek, artificial tailed beast!!!

Previous chapter:
Bleach: Thrilling stuff, plot moves on.
Naruto: I will place eye on the moon!!!111

Chapter before that:
Bleach: Plot finally moves forward from boring espada crap.
Naruto: Sauce is plot-saving throws from all the kages.



Yes. Naruto goes down, bleach goes up.
Oct 16, 2009 4:27 PM
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lol Killer Bee <33333
His fight with Kisame has potential, hurray. :D

The Sakura and Naruto talk shall be.....emotional, I guess lack for a better word. I wonder what'll be said. I wonder if Sakura will quit being so whiny and just man up and admit she likes Naruto and Sasuke is a lost cause...then again if that were to occur, we just might never see Sakura again because of Hinata Confession Syndrome. D:
Oct 16, 2009 4:57 PM

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wow. this one was a lot more interesting the past three combined.

maybe its time for someone else to be OP as well.
Oct 16, 2009 5:09 PM

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Fai said:
But you see, that contrasts really hard on how kage meeting went. I expected tension, false accusations, etc.

Surely going into generic "everyone vs big bad" mode was unavoidable but I expected a lot more of atmospheric feuds during the talks.

Now it seems as if all kages, who were at each other's throats ideologically and physically suddenly all have the same outlook on everything and anything....


I can't disagree with ya. It could have been better. It was like Madara showing up relieved all suspiscion between them and almost made 'em buddies.

Fai said:

Oh but:
- in past "as evil as that of Uchiha Madara" sounded like exaggerated sentence about legend/myth.
- Rikkudou created the moon sounded like exaggeration.
- "Battle between First and Madara Created this valley"sounded like exaggeration.

I would not put it past the kishi to do that, alongside to some sort of "Artificial Tailed Beast Shroud" technique....


I don't doubt anything these days, you know xD. But I guess I'll be happy enough if Kisame don't start shooting world destroying Kamehamehas.

lolodalonghorn said:
The Sakura and Naruto talk shall be.....emotional,


It would be awesome if that talk were to be interrupted by Hinata with a dynamic entry right in the middle of Sakura's face.

rofl




Oct 16, 2009 6:32 PM

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not really impressed with this chapter, but oh well.

Next chapter promises excitement though :)

Oct 16, 2009 9:38 PM

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Fai said:

But you see, that contrasts really hard on how kage meeting went. I expected tension, false accusations, etc.

Surely going into generic "everyone vs big bad" mode was unavoidable but I expected a lot more of atmospheric feuds during the talks.

Now it seems as if all kages, who were at each other's throats ideologically and physically suddenly all have the same outlook on everything and anything....

I see your point, but the thing is, if they don't unite, they're all fundamentally screwed.

PS: I might have overreacted as well. X D

PPS: Please quit with the yaoi fangirl comparisons. It insults me every time... T_T... WHAT'S WRONG WITH BEING A YAOI FANGIRL?!?!
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Honestly the story is losing quality.

I started re-reading the initial chapters of series I just for the heck of it & ended up reading all the way upto the Negi-Hinata fight in 1 go. On the other hand I don't feel the slightest desire to re-read a single chapter in sereis II.
The firmness of the faith the charachters have in their paths is reduced senselessly in comparision to series I. I still think Zabusa was a better villain than a lot of these guys.

Somehow the current plot just doesn't have the cool feeling it used to have before. It just feels like a stereotypical & highly predictable story where they are trying to overdo the highlighting of certain traits of the charachters. Eg: Sasuke's penchant for revenge, Madara's/Danzou's evil, Naruto's ability to reach out to people, Akatsuki's power, Sharingan's power etc.

Note: Ofcourse the above is MY personal OPINION & I'm not trying to insult the author's work, because I for one have never written a story, leave aside a popular manga like Naruto. I just expressed that the story doesn't meet MY EXPECTATIONS. Whether or not anyone else likes the current plot is totally up to them.
Oct 17, 2009 4:04 PM

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Looks like Naruto is screwed, they'll have the talk.
Oct 17, 2009 5:46 PM
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Such an..... interesting chapter..... i cant wait for the next one, though!!!! I gots to see that fight!!!!!

I HOPE IT DOESNT END!!!!!!
Oct 17, 2009 7:18 PM
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I lol'd at Gaara's mentioning of Naruto and the responses of his siblings and Killer Bee's song.

Other than that, mediocre chapter is mediocre chapter.
This.
Oct 18, 2009 10:43 AM

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Well it was an okay chapter for me, I thought the way they made this alliance was way too hasty.
I'm just looking for the fight between Kisame and Killer Bee.

Oh and btw, it appears that Raikage doesn't trust his brother that much.
Oct 18, 2009 2:02 PM
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I think this chapter was pretty good, even though I don't like how Kisame is supposed to match a bijuus chakra level. The bijuus were always mentioned as the strongest beings and now all of a sudden someone claims that Kisame is supposed to match them. I hope this is just an exaggeration.
Oct 18, 2009 8:09 PM
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Oh and btw, it appears that Raikage doesn't trust his brother that much.
I think he does trust him, but the problem is, Killer Bee is too much of Naruto Kumogakure version, meaning, he probably doesn't bend by any logic, and when Raikage said his brother would bring chaos to the battlefield, he maybe even thought that Killer Bee wouldn't considere Madara and his subordinates as enemies, since, as far as we know, all he wants is to other people hear his rap.

Not to mention how he faked his defeat, only to be captured, for the sake of getting himself a vacation.
Oct 18, 2009 9:23 PM

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Man I'm pumped for this sword fight.
Oct 24, 2009 8:53 PM
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Let's hope that Kishimoto will show us a great fight! I can't wait to see how they will fight!!
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Kisame found Bee!
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yay! It's really nice getting to see kisame




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