| What is a VPN and why should I use it? How do I get one? Do I have to pay or are there free safe options? |
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deg said: VPN connects you to a server or network of servers in doing so you hide your IP address or your identity online it can also bypass censorship and some lets you torrent safely, go pay for one if you can because if you are not paying then youre the product as they say thanks for the answer :)). ill prob pay, hahahah what do you mean by the product? :) |
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| You don't need VPNs unless you go on shady sites. For example pirated sites or Adult sites |
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| TBH don't know the computer stuff about it. But in my case, I used it to access applications that were blocked in my school, like reddit and instagram. I think the free ones are safe for doing the stuff I used to do, (access apps that were blocked at school). If you plan on torrenting or live in China or North Korea, you might want something that costs money, ones that does't sell your data you and have more IP locations. |
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ohml said: TBH don't know the computer stuff about it. But in my case, I used it to access applications that were blocked in my school, like reddit and instagram. I think the free ones are safe for doing the stuff I used to do, (access apps that were blocked at school). If you plan on torrenting or live in China or North Korea, you might want something that costs money, ones that does't sell your data you and have more IP locations. Some Asian countries fine you if you use VPNs to go on sites |
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| @ deg said: there is also a new one that is more better than VPN btw called WireGuard that is much faster too so if you really plan to do this you might want to check that out especially if you plan to use it for online gaming too I'm currently using surfshark. It's the cheapest decent VPN. Don't go for the name brand stuff like Nord and ExpressVPN, they have the exact same functionality but more cost. IVPN and CyberGhost seems to be the top of the shelf brands though that pros use I think. |
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| I don't think VPN is necessary unless porn is banned in your country or you torrent lots of shit. |
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| @Fraver I think deg explained what is a VPN and why should you use a paid one very well. I just want to add a little bit more. While many use VPN for accessing sites restricted in their country. However, some use a VPN to hide their browsing history. It doesn't matter if you are doing something illegal or not, some just value their privacy. I don't think you can be %100 anon on the internet at this age but every bit helps. While looking for a VPN, you really should check out their log policy. After all, you are using a VPN to hide your browser history. If they are logging that for themselves, that would make the whole point of VPN useless right? That is why you should not use free VPNs but even most of the paid VPNs log your data. You need to make extensive research to find a VPN with true "no logging policy". As a side note, their HQ location also matters. For example, if the said VPN company is USA based then they are obligated to share your data when asked by the government. deg said: there is also a new one that is more better than VPN btw called WireGuard that is much faster too so if you really plan to do this you might want to check that out especially if you plan to use it for online gaming too Lastly, WireGuard is really promising but it is not production-ready yet. I wouldn't use it for now. |
| there's a free one. I only used it for torrenting |
| I use protonvpn because it's free and not trash whenever I need to use it for something work related. However for everything else I generally tend to avoid using VPN's (Fuck those snitches, seriously) and rather use TOR as long as it isn't blocked. |
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| Virtual Private Network , If some sites are restricted in your country VPN allows you to access them. I need to use VPN to access to Pastebin because of my country blacklisting it. |
| VPN connect you to their server, so you can say your IP cannot be tracked by the website or provider when you browse. But, of course the VPN company know it. But they ensure its user privacy though. Some benefit of using VPN : 1. You can access site that your internet provider or country ban 2. You can access site that ban your country 3. If your internet is not fully unlimited (Example : Can only access media, picture or video, no more than 1 GB daily. Note : Some country have internet company that breakdown their service according to their user preferance) it can bypass it. So you can still access media with full speed. Because the internet provider can't trace what you browse Some disadvantage : 1. It cost more data than normal browse, since you must connect to VPN server (If your internet connection is full unlimited this shouldn't be a problem) 2. As far as i know, the VPN Company hold your information 3. Limited speed. Usually VPN company limit your speed when you browse using their service or maybe limit your Data Quota. They usually provide option to pay for more speed with Quota or unlimited All i write is what i know. If there is some mistake please correct me |
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| I find it amusing how it's generally referred to as VPN nowadays when what people use it for fits the description of a mere proxy server. It's not like people pay for access to interact with other clients on that provider's network, lol. Also i'm dumbfounded by the replies here implying that VPN is mandatory for torrenting. ISPs in many countries don't care if you're downloading stuff through P2P networks or visit porn sites so it depends on where you live really. For the purpose of visiting blocked/censored websites VPN also seems like an excessive option to me, a simple web proxy is enough for that. deg said: there is also a new one that is more better than VPN btw called WireGuard that is much faster too so if you really plan to do this you might want to check that out especially if you plan to use it for online gaming too Correct me if i'm wrong, but isn't WireGuard just one of many technical implementations of a VPN? The way you phrased it makes it sound like it's a different service. And if i remember correctly it doesn't even set up a network, just creates a secure tunnel between two hosts, which, for the purposes listed in this thread (proxying traffic basically), is enough, but doesn't technically fit the Virtual Private Network definition. |
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HorizonFox said: VPN is also used for stability gaming, web proxy won't be there for that. First time hearing about that, can you elaborate? What problems does it solve? From what i can imagine, it might only affect ping positively in a rare case when the route from you computer to game server miraculously ends up being shorter through the VPN servers. |
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HorizonFox said: Genoard said: First time hearing about that, can you elaborate? What problems does it solve? From what i can imagine, it might only affect ping positively in a rare case when the route from you computer to game server miraculously ends up being shorter through the VPN servers. VPN protocol wrap the network stack and encrypted packets make ISPs unable to pinpoint the data meta and decide to throttle or not (that's what i still believe), it doesn't help lower ping in my games but given VPN mainly uses UDP protocol is more steady for gaming by constantly sending data regardless the server acknowledgement or not is another benefit for smoother gaming than using TCP. I sure don't know why some online games don't use UDP in the first place especially those games that need 3 communication Client > Server > Client for an operation. VPN had helped me bypass gateways going in anti-ddos lockdown and let me play to the point where i don't randomly disconnect from session because of whatever my ISP or some foreign datacenter was doing. There are also some Gaming VPN claim to lower pings but i never tried those. The more you know. Never experienced something like this myself (or at least didn't notice). Though i fail to see why would the ISP try to throttle gaming traffic of all. And to add to that, why would they let encrypted traffic through at the same time. |
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Guilion said: I use protonvpn because it's free and not trash whenever I need to use it for something work related. HorizonFox said: ProtonVPN is based on Swiss privacy focused company with contracted servers from 3rd party datacenters around the world. They offer free 7 days premium trial for new account and switch to free plan with limited servers after expire, though not a fan the client app using over 200MB RAM on Windows but it's clean and has always been a great help to skip off bad gateways during emergencies and support Mac and Android OS. Torrent works for premium trial but i barely use it. ProtonVPN performs deep packet inspection. How else do you think they restrict P2P connections to only paid users and reroutes paid users P2P traffic to dedicated P2P servers? Genoard said: And to add to that, why would they let encrypted traffic through at the same time. Any ISP that throttles encrypted/VPN traffic will be shooting themselves in the foot because big enterprises and probably also government departments mandate the usage of VPNs. They don't wanna lose out on those big contracts, they don't really care if some individuals are using it to game. |
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-InfiniteLoop- said: Guilion said: I use protonvpn because it's free and not trash whenever I need to use it for something work related. HorizonFox said: ProtonVPN is based on Swiss privacy focused company with contracted servers from 3rd party datacenters around the world. They offer free 7 days premium trial for new account and switch to free plan with limited servers after expire, though not a fan the client app using over 200MB RAM on Windows but it's clean and has always been a great help to skip off bad gateways during emergencies and support Mac and Android OS. Torrent works for premium trial but i barely use it. ProtonVPN performs deep packet inspection. How else do you think they restrict P2P connections to only paid users and reroutes paid users P2P traffic to dedicated P2P servers? "Whenever I need to do something work related" as in, not illegal, as in, I don't care if Big Brother is watching me because I have to send an activity log to him once I'm done anyways. Did you miss my next paragraph? |
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HorizonFox said: -InfiniteLoop- said: ProtonVPN performs deep packet inspection. How else do you think they restrict P2P connections to only paid users and reroutes paid users P2P traffic to dedicated P2P servers? By account status? I mean we're lock out of premium servers even without the need of deep packet inspection after the trial expired. Actually i didn't even know ProtonVPN use deep packet inspection, learned all that ages ago and forgot about it already because life somehow got comfy. I meant how are they able to kill the connection as soon as torrents start for free users. They'd have to analyze the encrypted traffic to determine it's P2P to do this. Actually, the creepy thing is that you don't need to be torrenting, simply opening a torrent client would activate the kill switch. @Guilion - Yeah my bad, I think my perception is skewed a bit. I suppose it depends on what classifies as work related. For me, I use ProtonVPN for personal use but wouldn't even consider it for work related stuff. Well not like I'd be able to even if I tried. I haven't used TOR but I've heard the speed is slow. |
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-InfiniteLoop- said: @Guilion - Yeah my bad, I think my perception is skewed a bit. I suppose it depends on what classifies as work related. For me, I use ProtonVPN for personal use but wouldn't even consider it for work related stuff. Well not like I'd be able to even if I tried. I haven't used TOR but I've heard the speed is slow. TOR has gotten better as far as speed is concerned to be honest, I've been able to get up to 1.5 M/s download speed. If you don't want to use the Tor browser to test it Brave has an anonymous option that incorporates it. |
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| You wouldn't really need one unless you were torrenting, wanted to access stuff from different websites that are blocked in your country or you didn't like your browsing history being sold to advertisers. |
| The only reasons most people should care about a VPN is if you are using public Wi-Fi, or if you are trying to watch something that is blocked in your country via YouTube or whatever. "Guaranteeing privacy" is misleading since all it does is shift the burden of your data from your ISP, to the VPN provider, and there is no guarantee what they do with it. |
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