WARNING: Bot activity boosting fake scores.

Clubby said:


Nice, you didn't mention the heaps of accounts made in April 2020 that made reviews after episodes 1,2 and 3 came out with 10/10 reviews. There's bad guys on both sides, no need to deny it

breaker_not said:


Lmao, a guy that gave kissXsis a 9/10 and this show a 1/10 after 4 episodes has the balls to complain about trolls and score manipulation, unbelievable

Clubby said:


Did you even read what i put on my profile? i rate anime by enjoyment, e.g if i found the watch fun or not.
How is that vote manipulation?

Clubby said:
This want to have such a high score stems from kpop stan's hunger for attention, they want people to indulge in the content that they like without taking into consideration the fact that people have opinions that can differ. 90% of people who gave it a 10 are fans of the source, and for most, fans of kpop.
kpop stans have proven multiple times that they want people to consume their favorite media without considering others' opinions, leading to situations like this, where they want the show to have a high score so that people who don't know it think it's actually good, when it's average at best. Sure, some anime-only people like the show, but the overall consensus from the anime-only community on this show is that it's mediocre.
But they can't have that, if it has a 6-7/10 people will look at it as just another seasonal! So what do they do? They resort to making accounts to upvote the show, a technique that's been tried and tested just this year!
This show doesn't deserve the score it has, and this problem is mostly why i'm against adaptations of korean media, call me what you want, that's my take on it, agree ir disagree, complaints go in my PM's.

GhostRO123 said:


Then why is it that you've given a score to an entire season of an anime? If it were individuals scores per every episode that was released up until now then that is understandable. But if the other 9 episodes are yet to be released how do you know they are the same quality as those first four if you didn't even watch them?

You're doing the exact same thing as those bots who rate 1/10 or 10/10 prematurely to a season of an anime that is still airing.

TolkienFan365 said:


People can rate shows based off their current enjoyment. I always do and my ratings can change vastly over the course of watching. If I give a show a score after 4 episodes it means after those 4 episodes this is how I currently feel. What a lot of people forget about MAL in the end the point of scores and rating is really supposed to be a personal guide. I don't rate for validation and I doubt he is either. Just because you feel his ratings are invalid doesn't indicate it's rating boosting.

MAL has tried to put systems in place to avoid the Reviewers/Chihayafuru cases. It honestly doesn't matter if people are looking for "objective" ratings (like MAL's user base is a bunch of Lit or film critics or that an objective rating could be possible). The site is an aggregate site they never do. MAL ratings are honestly basically irrelevant if the show is old or niche. I don't get why so many care about an arbitrary score.

Daniel_Naumov said:

This is unfortunately another problem, which I know we cannot do anything about. Gradual education available to people worldwide is the only answer to a decent... "forum" culture, if you wish. And which is why I do not mention it here. Today we can acknowledge the existence of actual malicious intent affecting the scores, not subjectivity or irresponsibility alone.

GhostRO123 said:


Then why is it that you've given a score to an entire season of an anime? If it were individuals scores per every episode that was released up until now then that is understandable. But if the other 9 episodes are yet to be released how do you know they are the same quality as those first four if you didn't even watch them?

You're doing the exact same thing as those bots who rate 1/10 or 10/10 prematurely to a season of an anime that is still airing.

TolkienFan365 said:



How is it a problem that some people rate shows before it finishes airing? I am using MAL in my own way.

Daniel_Naumov said:

This is unfortunately another problem, which I know we cannot do anything about. Gradual education available to people worldwide is the only answer to a decent... "forum" culture, if you wish. And which is why I do not mention it here. Today we can acknowledge the existence of actual malicious intent affecting the scores, not subjectivity or irresponsibility alone.

Surely you are not misunderstanding the aim of this thread - to bring to the attention of the masses to the fact that the scores are being manipulated, negatively at that. Although I do agree the establishment should make a big red sign when hovering over the ratings - :"SUBJECTIVE AND DO NOT REFLECT THE QUALITY OF ART".

Daniel_Naumov said:

And I have no intention of forbidding you from it. As long as you eventually come back and update that score of yours to reflect the series - the piece of Art - on the whole.

TolkienFan365 said:


People can rate shows based off their current enjoyment. I always do and my ratings can change vastly over the course of watching. If I give a show a score after 4 episodes it means after those 4 episodes this is how I currently feel. What a lot of people forget about MAL in the end the point of scores and rating is really supposed to be a personal guide. I don't rate for validation and I doubt he is either. Just because you feel his ratings are invalid doesn't indicate it's rating boosting.

MAL has tried to put systems in place to avoid the Reviewers/Chihayafuru cases. It honestly doesn't matter if people are looking for "objective" ratings (like MAL's user base is a bunch of Lit or film critics or that an objective rating could be possible). The site is an aggregate site they never do. MAL ratings are honestly basically irrelevant if the show is old or niche. I don't get why so many care about an arbitrary score.

TolkienFan365 said:


If people drop shows they are no longer interested in or don't finish it is their right. Often that criticism can be incredibly legitimate. There are certain shows that get better or worse after a certain point but you can often tell the general quality of a series within the first 3-4 episodes for most anime out there.

GhostRO123 said:


Honestly, I don't see how it would deter the users since they would just be one click away from confirming that they're not bots and continue to rate the anime.

A 24-hours restriction for new accounts might sound good in theory but those bots could just as easily wait for the ban to pass and then continue to mess up the score of said anime. And I don't think there is a point in widening that range to a 48-hours restriction either since they will do the same thing and the result won't change. Also, if they were to make it even bigger (like a few days or a week at max) it would do more harm than good.

Daniel_Naumov said:

If they lack the mental fortitude and/or resilience to go through with what they started - to take responsibility for their ratings that contribute to the public opinion, namely updating the scores to the final AFTER they finish the whole series - then they should not have the privilege of contributing to that public opinion. Lack of conviction is a weakness of character. Do, or do not. There is no try. Half-baked measures are not accepted.

Naturally, if they simply remove their scores after giving up and walking away, I would have no problem with that. But unless they take that metaphorical and allegorical responsibility I am speaking for the tenth time today, they should not humiliate themselves with leaving a score after 4 episodes and never coming back.