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Konpurekkusu said: BNHA has the budget for good animation, and the writing was good, so why does the animation have to be a slideshow? D: Just one word : Movie |
| Lots of hype...for this slideshow? I'm beyond disappointed. BNH needs sakuga in the big moments. |
| that shit hurted :( I loved Toga and Twice at the start. I never really appreciated Twice, I mean I liked him, hes a more kind, funny light-hearted villain especially compared to the others. But I never really had Twice at the centre of my mind, this episode I really liked him, last episode as well... He really goes well with Togal (not in a shipping way but they bounce off each other and balance each other really well). Speaking of Toga I cant wait to cosplay her, I'm cosplaying as her for MCM Comic Con London in May and I'm so hyped, her character design is amazing so I hope I pull it off. But hnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnng lets talk about the real beef chunk of this episode. God, I sometimes think to myself that Mirio did deserve One for All a bit more than Deku, I love Deku but Mirio just felt so much more heroic just in one episode compared to Deku the in whole fucking anime. He fought for Eri so hard and didn't give up, he sacrificed his quirk for her and still kept on fighting with a smile when all the odds were against him. He sacrificed his childhood dream of being a hero and all of his gruelling training to control his difficult quirk, all for one girl he barely even knew. He is probably (other than All Might) the most courageous and selfless character in My Hero Academia so far, the most heroic character. The fight was tense... but people are complaining about the "slideshow" part. I agree it would of been better, more impactful if it was followed by an actual animated fight. It felt like it was preparing itself for sakuga animation. But I dont think it was that big a deal. I dont see the fight to be this episodes main point. It is Mirios character and how he is truly the most heroic of them all. The most important part of this episode was Mirios sacrifice, not his fighting. |
SeijatachiiiiDec 29, 2019 5:45 PM
| Eri is a hoppu or is it just me? |
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| Okay, so here's my thoughts on the episode. - I think that the visuals could have been better, just like some people have said, there were a lot of still frames (not talking about the ending), and I feel like they could've done much more to improve the fight overall visually. With that being said, as an anime-only fan, the episode personally, was really good. I thought Mirio and Overhaul's voice acting were top-notch, and the music made the moment that much more emotional. Mirio is definitely my 2nd favorite character in the series after this episode, he was an absolute beast and a true hero. Also, I could see why people were upset with the slideshow at the end, but after checking the manga I saw that the scene was actually anime original, they replaced blank text boxes with the slide show to give some insight on how the five minutes Mirio survived without his quirk. I personally wasn't even bothered by it the first time watching, since the episode was coming to an end, I thought that the transition played in sync with the music in the background, making it that much more intense. I think it was important to end the episode with that last shot of Mirio protecting Eri, making it that much more impactful. With that being said, of course myself and everyone else included would've liked to see Mirio fight. But, I have a feeling that this was done because of the movie they were producing during the same time they were making this season, as well as having to use more budget on the upcoming fight. Based off the previews, and how I think the fight will go, there would be a lot of animation required for the movements of Overhaul's spikes as well as Deku's full cowl. To me, while the visuals could have been better, it didn't undermine the impact of the episode to me at all, I still felt the emotional aspect and severity of the episode. I've thoroughly enjoyed the last few episodes and hope that the climax in the next two episodes continue to be great. |
AwesomeAlfie27 said: I am going to say something weird The "Animation" part is just a part of an "animated" show, not the most important one. If people only care about animation then there is no reason for this medium to exist, or to create interesting story/characters who actually *Blend* with the animation style Gintama doesn't have crazy animation, and it doesn't need it(Crazy Sakuga would ruin it) Am i trying to be defensive? No, i don't even think i am a huge fan of MHA, i am just tired of people whining about animation, from OPM S2 (negatively) to Demon Slayer(positively) Were S2 and S3 animated better? Yes Do i care? No What about the episode? Like always, i watch MHA for the writing, world building and storytelling And, like always, i liked all of it, Mirio is a great character and some consequences will be felt Animation wise? I thought it was good, especially the slideshow part, a quirkless guy shouldn't fight with cfazy flips or incredible action, he is just a normal dude, the most important part was the meaning behind it I really liked your points here, I agree as well. I liked the video regardless of the "subpar" animation, which to me was either normal for MHA. I think that for this particular episode, it was less about Mirio's fight with Overhaul but more focused on the dramatic part of the fight. We all know that MHA doesn't have the best choreography when it comes to fights, where animation is required to portray successfully, nonetheless this was still one of my favorite MHA episodes. |
TheOmnivert said: wtf, that great fight was shown in a slideshow manner how great would it have been, how powerful it have been if the studio decided to bring the old director back and animate that precious fight i am angry but the emotions were super high in this one 3/5 for not giving us proper animation I am pretty sure the director for the series didn't change. Seems like he focused more on the movie than the tv series. I wish they would assign different animators for the movie. Then again, they get two pay cheques for it. These slaves... i mean animators need the pay. |
Kami_sama_ said: To any manga readers who may say that they butchered the fight, look at the chapter and you will see that Horkikoshi didn't attach any panels to the fight after he lost his quirk. He simply narrated it instead with a couple of text boxes. Bones added a lot to the end of the fight to add more emotion, slideshow or not. Also there was no need to put endless sakuga in a fight that emphasizes on pure emotion, look at All for One vs All Might. There was practically no sakuga in that fight. All in all, it was a good adaptation and it made me tear up. Lemillion saved one person, lets hope if he gets his quirk back that Lemillion can save 999, 999 more. 5/5 i agree. My only complaint was the subtraction of narration through this fight and the mimic guy losing control. I guess the direction was relying on the audience to interpret the scene without being told which is good directing. However, shonen fans aren't the best when it comes to subtlety. then again, the narration would have given more detail into things the audience could not possibly have known, like mirio fighting for 5 mins quirkless. |
virg0 said: Kami_sama_ said: look at All for One vs All Might. There was practically no sakuga in that fight. the best and most emotional moment in the fight (united states) was sakuga, and even so, i dont think that with good animation the fights would be better in this season. they just feel emotionless when compared to the previous seasons please explain why the mha fights were not emotional this season. i agree mob psycho s2 was gorgeous but the writing was terrible. It had literal friendship power up, villains turning good instantly, irrelevant character growth for reigen, forced emotions from episode 1, etc. MHA does have instances of garbo writing but is superior given that mob and one punch man are incredibly simple, episode series. they have less to juggle than mha. ONE is not a good writer. |
| Th Hatsuyuki said: yellowheartren said: I really hate it when there's so much emphasis on someone, build-up to get to know them, to create their character, everything, only for them to - end up being "disposable", basically. "Use" once, and that's all, they're gone. And I legit don't know whether this is the better case or the worse, being "only" his quirk, and not his life. x_x Isn't that the case for most BNHA characters tho ? The author loves introducing a huge cast of characters every arc just to never use them again after said arc ends. That just isn't true. Especially given the series still is running. Especially since the reintroduction and use of characters in the manga because it is still running. What you said could be said about half of hxh characters but would be false for the same reasons. |
shane_nichols said: Gj Bones. Ya ruined the best moment in this shitty arc. Quirkless Mirio. This could've been Deku. I would be had much more interest in this show than him just INHERITING the strongest power. Oh well. Guess the wanna save the Sakuga for the gay boy. Elaborate why the arc is shit. Please give objective criticism for those are what can change or enlighten minds. If your complaints are of pacing, i agree it is irregular. Any other issues? |
| dem' goosebumps in the battle between Mirio and Chisaki... The Episode is really Epic (except maybe the animation is kinda a bit worse than usual I guess). Mirio is such a good character. When Nighteye said He deserves One for All, now I know why. Respect... |
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| A lot of people complaining about the still frames at the end of the episode. I didn't mind it. The Japanese animation industry is stretched thin and overworked. They can only assign so many people so much time to work on those sakuga moments. I'm assuming that they decided to have their best animators work on the next fight. nanimeanswhat said: I know I'm supposed to feel emotional but every episode feels the same this season. Some inspirational internal dialogue about the meaning of being a hero (feat. some flashbacks) and yelling about being a hero while fighting with the enemy and repeat. Same. Also throw in the heavy reuse of the iconic music that played during the All Might vs All For One episode from last season. The music was incredible and was only used that one time, but it begins to lose its impact now that we have been hearing it every episode. I'm enjoying the story but the arc is dragging its feet. The raid has been going on for five episodes in a row. Five battle episodes in a row. It's starting to remind me of how a Naruto or One Piece battle arc would go on for over a dozen episodes when really the whole battle arc could be told in one or two episodes at most. Really feels like the last five episodes could have been condensed into two or three at most. |
| "You mean her." "Please don't make that mistake again." Who the hell cares, he's dead. Amazing episode. Lemillion is dope af. |
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Valyrian1124 said: A lot of people complaining about the still frames at the end of the episode. I didn't mind it. The Japanese animation industry is stretched thin and overworked. They can only assign so many people so much time to work on those sakuga moments. I'm assuming that they decided to have their best animators work on the next fight. nanimeanswhat said: I know I'm supposed to feel emotional but every episode feels the same this season. Some inspirational internal dialogue about the meaning of being a hero (feat. some flashbacks) and yelling about being a hero while fighting with the enemy and repeat. Same. Also throw in the heavy reuse of the iconic music that played during the All Might vs All For One episode from last season. The music was incredible and was only used that one time, but it begins to lose its impact now that we have been hearing it every episode. I'm enjoying the story but the arc is dragging its feet. The raid has been going on for five episodes in a row. Five battle episodes in a row. It's starting to remind me of how a Naruto or One Piece battle arc would go on for over a dozen episodes when really the whole battle arc could be told in one or two episodes at most. Really feels like the last five episodes could have been condensed into two or three at most. Totally agree. I do really like this season and I think the battles are pretty good and fun, but I'd enjoy it more if they explored the meaning of what a hero is through the existing dialogue and fights instead of wasting time explicitly explaining their motivations and what they've learned about themselves. Symbolism should not be overlooked but shounen anime almost always does. If they toned down the "why I'm a hero" monologues they could have definitely trimmed down this raid to nearly half its length. |
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JustOppais said: Old_School_Akira said: oh spear me.............. 🙄 There was CGI backgrounds in some parts of the previous seasons too and don’t call me the N word. 🤦♂️ Careful, there are a lot of overly sensitive people on MAL. I'm not particularly a fan of the word either, but I mean...lol yeah. |
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BlakexEkalb said: ttcchen said: no. Just go google "transgender". Ah so it’s like believing they are something they are not? It’s like cosplaying but you actually believe you’re that thing. Lol don't even try to fight the crazies here on MAL. They won't listen to reason or accept reality. It's best to just ignore them. |
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i'm going to put it all into the new director's fault. he looks like a good guy to make emotional scenes, but when it comes to fights, he just can't. he lacks the creativity to innovate, they just looks like bland copys of the manga, and that's bad when you don't have the epic animation of previous seasons. that's why I said that if they are under his management, they would look as bland as they are right now, but more fluid. when it comes to mha, jojo and shingeki, i don't even need to watch the anime to know that they are going to surprise us, because they have managed to bring us beautiful things, so when i knew about the director change, i thought that would be okay because bones huh, and i was wrong. the hardest punch for me was kirishima's fight, because this moment is one of my favorites in the manga, i really had high hopes for it, and when i saw this video, i just couldn't hype more, but i was really disappointed with the anime one. there's some things that works good in a manga, one of them that i can use as a example is the size of balloons in a page. when there's a really small balloon in contrast with a really big, you aren't supposed to give much attention to the small one, and that happens here, when fat gum is screaming "you wanna know why you're gonna lose?! because all of us, including me, underestimated him! the hero called red riot, and his chivalrous spirit". his speech is real fucking good that you pass the page almost with light speed to read the next line and don't even mind the small interrupment of the villains, because it is unnecessary for the actual moment (this is something that the guys doing the manga animated video that i linked earlier knew, and removed it), but the director just copy pasted the manga and kept that moment, breaking the speech with such a useless cut for the villains, specially when you dont have sized balloons or the freedom of the manga panels to show the audience what they have to give focus, and have to change all thats going in the screen... i just don't know why. i think that i used a really small detail but it's a good way to explain my point, he just doesn't know when add or remove things for the purpose of improving the fight. also, i should note that copypasting the manga isn't a terrible thing, but when you had the taste of amazing things that improved the manga in the previous seasons, the actual ones just look... emotionless. i agree mob psycho s2 was gorgeous but the writing was terrible. It had literal friendship power up, villains turning good instantly, irrelevant character growth for reigen, forced emotions from episode 1, etc. MHA does have instances of garbo writing but is superior given that mob and one punch man are incredibly simple, episode series. they have less to juggle than mha. ONE is not a good writer. i don't know why you mentioned mob here, but if there's something that you can't bad talk mob is the creativity put in the fights, and all the anime in general. i could stay here all the day showing how they did amazing things and innovated, but i'll choose this fight. the camera angles, the fps gun pov, the way that the teleport is done by changing the background,, it all blows my mind. of course there's moments without fights thats really worth mentioning, and what comes into my mind now is when reigen is being interviewed and mob uses his psychic powers to move all the cameras, and one of them turns out to be what we are using to watch, so we witnesses a really cool effect of floating. the staff just used and abused mob as his sandbox tool, and i'm grateful for it. |
na_1Dec 30, 2019 2:29 AM
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| Pretty good episode 4/5 Le's fight was cool until it turned into a slideshow but it didn't ruin the episode |
| Lmao I think Overhauls in the wrong anime I thought I was watched fmab when he first started earth bending |
| Despite the massive backlash that is the Mirio vs. Chisaki slideshow of an animation, the episode was still good, but not as great as it could be. HAH, even Twice and Toga can't run away from Chisaki's Shie Hassaikai band of criminals with the collaboration, but then again, their free-spirited selves aren't liable towards their loyalty. And as for Togata, facing the Hassaikai head-on was overwhelming presence he could not bear, but on front of Eri, he realized Izuku's intention that time, and acted on it in full force. And the fight between the next generational good vs. evil was as expected. Alas, Eight Bullet Nemoto cleared one shot of the Quirk-erasing bullet onto him. To compensate for the black bar frame in the manga, Bones added in original content in context for mangaka Kohei Horikoshi's dialogue of quirkless Togata fighting Chisaki at the expense. Still, I'd wish that dialogue was there to amplify the experience. Izuku's here to save both Mirio and Eri...here's hoping that MHA would hold its greatness. Anime-onlys will definitely experience the same overhyped emotions with it whilst manga-readers still reeling in over the major singularity issue. |
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| Mirio made me believe he should’ve gotten One For All, sorry Deku>.< |
| Damm...what an episode. Mirio is easily my favorite char. I do feel like if he died there it would be even more epic. At this point I feel like he's going to get his quirk back. |
| I don't typically read manga so if I get anything right please don't tell me. |
| As an anime only viewer I was sensing that something would happen to Mirio from the plot structure but I am really disappointed that they only decide to erase his quirk.I liked him a lot as a character. His backstory and presentation made him an important existence in the lore of the series, and that is exactly why, they should have killed him in a heroic way to rise the dramatic tension to unparalleled heights. As far as the anime goes, I can say that mangaka always plays safe and is not brave enough to take risks to elevate the story. As long the series continues this way, it will always be a generic shounen with some pretty good moments. |
SatanicAlpha said: AwesomeAlfie27 said: I am going to say something weird The "Animation" part is just a part of an "animated" show, not the most important one. If people only care about animation then there is no reason for this medium to exist, or to create interesting story/characters who actually *Blend* with the animation style Gintama doesn't have crazy animation, and it doesn't need it(Crazy Sakuga would ruin it) Am i trying to be defensive? No, i don't even think i am a huge fan of MHA, i am just tired of people whining about animation, from OPM S2 (negatively) to Demon Slayer(positively) Were S2 and S3 animated better? Yes Do i care? No What about the episode? Like always, i watch MHA for the writing, world building and storytelling And, like always, i liked all of it, Mirio is a great character and some consequences will be felt Animation wise? I thought it was good, especially the slideshow part, a quirkless guy shouldn't fight with cfazy flips or incredible action, he is just a normal dude, the most important part was the meaning behind it I really liked your points here, I agree as well. I liked the video regardless of the "subpar" animation, which to me was either normal for MHA. I think that for this particular episode, it was less about Mirio's fight with Overhaul but more focused on the dramatic part of the fight. We all know that MHA doesn't have the best choreography when it comes to fights, where animation is required to portray successfully, nonetheless this was still one of my favorite MHA episodes. I agree on the choreography part Mha fights are more about emotion than actual choreography Also please go away, a civil discussion on MyAnimeList? It can't be |
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shane_nichols said: amperevenon said: Because of the useless fuckin fights that no one gives a shit about and the flashbacks interrupting EVERY SINGLE FIGHT just to rehash the shit that you already know because Horikoshit is a great writer. Honestly, Season 1 >>>>>>>>>>>>Trash 4.Elaborate why the arc is shit. Please give objective criticism for those are what can change or enlighten minds. If your complaints are of pacing, i agree it is irregular. Any other issues? I said to give objective critique. I and many others care but you don't. That is subjective. If you just don't like it, fine but because you have no objective complains your just bitching. All the fights were useful. All flashbacks introduce new info. In this episode we learned via flashback they have acheived PERMANENT quirk erasing bullets, We learned and/or confirmed: that twices clones are not has durable as the original and the criteria for making them, toga can consume many bloods at once any change in any and also she doesn't have permanent use of the dna. We learned the yakuza boss doesn't condone overhauls inhuman methods, etc. Mirio flashback was the basic writing technque of milestone usage. Bones played his life story to build drama. Good writing. I am pretty sure you got these complains from theanimesnob. I saw a recent video he made and you just REHASHED his invalid claims. He is just a bitter greek who bitches about cartoons and anitubers cos no one cares for his opinions. I await your rebuttal. |
| Finally, Mirio is gone, Sych a relief. He was most irritating character in the show, even more than Deku himself, he was like super-Deku with his unmotivated goal to protect everyone. Too sad i know that villains are doomed to lose. About the episode: more of the goddamn exposition, please, no more, sick to death of it. Why this season has so much of unnecessary talking? Is this how it was in manga? Anybody who loves Mirio, please explain your reasons, i really dont understand his generic character at all. |
SilentNoxDec 30, 2019 12:17 PM
| Best episode after the two best All Might episodes. I know what would happen and it still felt super impactful and made me care |
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