who will win?
| I haven't played the game but in the wiki it shows that he have 5 stars as Archer and 4 as Caster, so i guess he it's stronger as an Archer. |
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Heimur said: I haven't played the game but in the wiki it shows that he have 5 stars as Archer and 4 as Caster, so i guess he it's stronger as an Archer. Stars don't account for strength(a third of the five stars are lore wise weaker than some 1 stars). That said, Caster is weaker than Archer for several reasons. The trade off is Caster actually takes care of business unlike Archer. |
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| why this is even a question? lol. Archer Gilgamesh obviously wins and crushes Caster Gilgamesh even if he doesn't use EA. Remember the only reason Acher Gilgamesh lost in FSN is because of his arrogance. |
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| If Archer uses Ea on his first move he wins. Any other way is a victory for Caster. |
Pretty much. Considering their usual approach, Caster will just release a nuke on Archer immediately, Archer will underestimate him and not use EA and then get brutally murdered. |
| bruh |
| Archer is the stronger class container for Gil. In his Caster state, he's restricted to magecraft weaponry from his GoB and he has Ea sealed. And I don't see Archer Gil underestimating himself, so yeah Archer Gil would win. |
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| Archer Gil is stronger, in both Lore and power Caster Gil is really strong, but it just look stronger than the Archer version is because he fights Enkidu, who is the only person that Gil fight with 100% power and the only person he considers at the same level as him (Sorry for bad english) |
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| I choose Caster Gilgamesh because power isn't all that important in battle in TM. Most impressive threats aren't those with more power but those who know what to do with their power. Plus concepts and strategy have an edge over raw strength. deg said: he is almost defeated by that fake Enkidu Kingu is more powerful than Enkidu. |
| err what. You guys do realize Gas Gil is basically a forced class right. He can't fight to his full potential. Very simply put Archer > Caster Gil. Always. -Mahesvara said: Archer is the stronger class container for Gil. In his Caster state, he's restricted to magecraft weaponry from his GoB and he has Ea sealed. And I don't see Archer Gil underestimating himself, so yeah Archer Gil would win. The strongest class container for Gilgamesh is the Gilgamesh class. XD F/E Joke if you get it. |
G_Aker said: Oh no I totally get it, I watched a subbed version of Gil's route in CCC lolerr what. You guys do realize Gas Gil is basically a forced class right. He can't fight to his full potential. Very simply put Archer > Caster Gil. Always. -Mahesvara said: Archer is the stronger class container for Gil. In his Caster state, he's restricted to magecraft weaponry from his GoB and he has Ea sealed. And I don't see Archer Gil underestimating himself, so yeah Archer Gil would win. The strongest class container for Gilgamesh is the Gilgamesh class. XD F/E Joke if you get it. |
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ThessNov 23, 2019 10:19 PM
| So we're talking about his timeline mentality or the actual class itself here? But even if we're talking in mentality terms in FGO the Archer class Gilgamesh is still superior. FGO Archer Gilgamesh is not just FSN Gilgamesh....sooooo |
| Why are we assuming that Caster Gil with his magic nukes cant beat sword spam from Archer Gil? I dont buy it. Caster Gil also uses his future sight without dismissing it, like Archer does. Also one small important detail. Gilgamesh in Babylonia is a Living Hero. I dont care how good the Archer vessel is, Living Gilgamesh is still stronger than that. |
G_Aker said: So we're talking about his timeline mentality or the actual class itself here? I assume you're talking about summonable Servants. Archer Gilgamesh is inferior to his kid self as a dangerous opponent according to Nasu. It's because of his mentality and maturity. That's why I leaned on Caster Gilgamesh, who has the personality of his older self. Power means nothing if you're a careless dumbass, and "Carelessness EX" is Archer Gilgamesh's secret stat according to Nasu. |
Haneken2086 said: I think Unlimited Blade Works showed that a battle between a past and future version of the same character will ultimately be a draw, because it's the same character. Though I'd like to see Gil in a host of other classes too: Rider, Berserker, Assassin, etc. When did we have a draw in UBW? The Servant let the other guy win.And it wasnt even about who is stronger. |
Haneken2086 said: ssjokg said: When did we have a draw in UBW? The Servant let the other guy win.And it wasnt even about who is stronger. https://lparchive.org/Fatestay-night/Update%20243/ |
ssjokgNov 24, 2019 5:45 AM
arturaxmal said: I can just imagine Archer Gil looking at his Caster version and wonder what happened to himself... then realizes Enkidu died and falls into depression. Caster Gil wins. This thread is pointless, just wait for episode 21 and you're going to get some answer. |
Eiyuuo-Gilkun said: So much wrong with this onearturaxmal said: I can just imagine Archer Gil looking at his Caster version and wonder what happened to himself... then realizes Enkidu died and falls into depression. Caster Gil wins. Uhmm no archer gil normally is his adult version after enkidu death when u summoned him (Caster/Babylonia Gil is pretty much an other timeline where he need to bcm a mage bcs of the singualarity *cough plot BS, in normal timeline he still reign as a hero king even after his journey for immortality) ppl have this idea that archer gil is young and bratty no he is not that's the stay night version which is in fact teen gil bcs post 4th grail war he drank the potion of youth to blend with modern human and if you read what the potion do it also revert the user personality so we have gil with his teen personality before he meet enkidu and also modern human pisses him off so much. Even in archer gil Chara material he is indeed normally dislike the modern era human but he is more on the neutral side he only want to purge humanity bcs he is way younger in stay night than his other incarnation in Zero, Strange fake, or CCC |
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