After finishing it,my thoughts were that it was a good series.But, I had few issues which i list below:
1.) Weird story progression, they introduce the show with felt and elsa but they suddenly shift focus to completely new characters in Roswaal's mansion.
2.)Other than Subaru and Rem no other characters were given much development and could be cast of as generic characters.
3.)I really liked the show till Ep 15 up until which the psychological and horror elements portrayed gave the show its own unique feel but then it transitions into a completely new show afterwards which i found to be very generic and expected.Subaru decides to save Emilia and be brave and i understand the reasons but the change felt very abrupt and more plot driven than character driven.I feel that the show could have done a better job and i sense wasted potential.
Everyone has their opinion/taste and even if I disliked a particular show i can usually understand why that show attracts so many fans.But when it comes to Re-zero,I agree that it is a good show but i cannot understand why it has such a huge fandom and is very popular.
So tell me, Why do you like it so much? What are the reasons for its success?What about Re-Zero is so good for you that you would rate it a 9 or 10?
Please understand that i don't hate Re-Zero and would simply like to know why this show means so much to a lot of people.Also, provide detailed explanations instead of one-liners so i can understand more clearly.
v_max said: After finishing it,my thoughts were that it was a good series.But, I had few issues which i list below:
1.) Weird story progression, they introduce the show with felt and elsa but they suddenly shift focus to completely new characters in Roswaal's mansion.
2.)Other than Subaru and Rem no other characters were given much development and could be cast of as generic characters.
3.)I really liked the show till Ep 15 up until which the psychological and horror elements portrayed gave the show its own unique feel but then it transitions into a completely new show afterwards which i found to be very generic and expected.Subaru decides to save Emilia and be brave and i understand the reasons but the change felt very abrupt and more plot driven than character driven.I feel that the show could have done a better job and i sense wasted potential.
Everyone has their opinion/taste and even if I disliked a particular show i can usually understand why that show attracts so many fans.But when it comes to Re-zero,I agree that it is a good show but i cannot understand why it has such a huge fandom and is very popular.
So tell me, Why do you like it so much? What are the reasons for its success?What about Re-Zero is so good for you that you would rate it a 9 or 10?
Please understand that i don't hate Re-Zero and would simply like to know why this show means so much to a lot of people.Also, provide detailed explanations instead of one-liners so i can understand more clearly.
All of your gripes can be explained with one reason : The story is far from complete. Judging its entirety (cast, plot, story) from the intro season/adaptation alone without checking the source material that builds up later on, will understandably lead to that conclusion.
But yeah, it's popular for many reasons :
The main character is a walking commentary on a good majority of people who are simply wasting away their time dreaming of escapism, or are simply 'slothful' about their goals. Then it just turns the idea of an escape being relaxing and enjoyable into something that is just not worth your time.
Subaru however has no idea how to get back and if he develops an intent to speak (write, sing, wink, anything) about his condition to anybody, Satella kills off that person (the plot device). You can see how glad Subaru was to live out a long-standing fantasy of his. He even considered experience and behaved with people around him as if he was in a video game.
But he easily ran into trouble given his behaviour (even though his behaviour wasn't that extreme in the anime). Chock full of hero mentality + entitlement = recipe for disaster. On top of that, expecting others to understand him without explaining his behaviour/attitude to them only leads to conflict.
However, he can't speak about his predicament to anyone because the plot of Satella ties into it. It's a balance of character and plot driven elements. It only points towards the fact that he has to make some serious changes in his attitude and how he interacts with people (coupled with his hikikomori past). And also he has to stop thinking that this 'new life' will play out like a video game that he hadexpected it to be. Ironically, it DOES indeed play out like a video game, and that is the very formula the author has been playing with.
The switch in the progression you speak of didn't seem all THAT abrupt, seeing how he originally considered Emilia to be his "easy to win main heroine" (his words). It's plain obvious to see that as long as he had sort of mentality, he got whipped left and right. Once he started fixing it, you got to see some positive things in the story. Bear in mind, he is still not in the clear about how he views Emilia as a person. Her character starts becoming more prominent later on. There are two main characters, one of them has been fleshed out for you so far.
Any how, the moral : If your attitude was crap in your previous life, you are going to be crap in your current life. Only way to progress is to take some initiative to change yourself. This is a pretty standard motif but it was executed fairly well, given the context of "fun filled isekai experience gone absolutely wrong".
Then there is Rem, because she is apparently the quintessential waifu in the eyes of a majority. Maid? check. Doting to the point of laying down her life recklessly? check. Character growth? check. Pivotal role in shaping the main character's attitude? check. It's a pretty good formula for a side character but it was her one of a kind rejection that made Re-zero notorious (or popular). I.e., she rejects Subaru first -> confesses -> gets rejected -> Both Subaru and Rem laugh it out. But her goal was to nudge the character back to the right track. Another thing the author plays with is that he mirrors the Subaru x Emilia relation through Rem x Subaru. One side is 'crazy' about the other and would do just about anything for the other.
I mean, I'd say that the show had a balanced approach on many fronts knowing that it was only an advertisement for the light novel. Even I felt the show was lacking on many areas, but that's because season 1 is just a setup for all that is to come later. The bit about Elsa you speak of, becomes more fleshed out. The other elements like giving context to all the other characters and the world-building elements that kind of lacked, all come into play.
tl;dr : The popularity is because it deviates from the standard "generic" isekai fantasy anime. Subaru is going to remain painfully normal and predominantly 'human' throughout in such a scenario. Unconventional zero-to-hero trope. Atleast that's what I surmise from seeing how the author has been building his character, although he has been making very subtle changes to his character in all versions of the adaptations.
KreatorX said: Even I felt the show was lacking on many areas, but that's because season 1 is just a setup for all that is to come later. The bit about Elsa you speak of, becomes more fleshed out. The other elements like giving context to all the other characters and the world-building elements that kind of lacked, all come into play.
Thanks! that was insightful and has refreshed my outlook of the isekai genre and also Re-Zero. You have made me realize that there were subtle character driven elements pivotal in the story which i definitely overlooked and would have appreciated.
Coming to the fact that season 1 is just a setup,perhaps i should have been a bit more clear in my post.It is quite obvious that it is the case and that the show probably wholly satisfies the audience later on.Most people wouldn't fall in love with just the 'set-up'. Is it because majority of the fans of the anime version were also light novel readers? Is the presence of an excessive amount of Isekai a partial cause for people to fall towards Re-zero?How probable is it to expect a relatively new isekai watcher(Like myself) to give a 9 or10 to Re-zero after watching only season 1 of the anime version(a.k.a 'the setup')?Am i correct in assuming that the majority of Re-zero fans are those who already watched a lot of generic isekai series and embrace Re-zero as a welcome change?
The main character is a walking commentary on a good majority of people who are simply wasting away their time dreaming of escapism, or are simply 'slothful' about their goals. Then it just turns the idea of an escape being relaxing and enjoyable into something that is just not worth your time.
Subaru however has no idea how to get back and if he develops an intent to speak (write, sing, wink, anything) about his condition to anybody, Satella kills off that person (the plot device). You can see how glad Subaru was to live out a long-standing fantasy of his. He even considered experience and behaved with people around him as if he was in a video game.
But he easily ran into trouble given his behaviour (even though his behaviour wasn't that extreme in the anime). Chock full of hero mentality + entitlement = recipe for disaster. On top of that, expecting others to understand him without explaining his behaviour/attitude to them only leads to conflict.
However, he can't speak about his predicament to anyone because the plot of Satella ties into it. It's a balance of character and plot driven elements. It only points towards the fact that he has to make some serious changes in his attitude and how he interacts with people (coupled with his hikikomori past). And also he has to stop thinking that this 'new life' will play out like a video game that he hadexpected it to be. Ironically, it DOES indeed play out like a video game, and that is the very formula the author has been playing with.
The switch in the progression you speak of didn't seem all THAT abrupt, seeing how he originally considered Emilia to be his "easy to win main heroine" (his words). It's plain obvious to see that as long as he had sort of mentality, he got whipped left and right. Once he started fixing it, you got to see some positive things in the story. Bear in mind, he is still not in the clear about how he views Emilia as a person. Her character starts becoming more prominent later on. There are two main characters, one of them has been fleshed out for you so far.
Any how, the moral : If your attitude was crap in your previous life, you are going to be crap in your current life. Only way to progress is to take some initiative to change yourself. This is a pretty standard motif but it was executed fairly well, given the context of "fun filled isekai experience gone absolutely wrong".
Then there is Rem, because she is apparently the quintessential waifu in the eyes of a majority. Maid? check. Doting to the point of laying down her life recklessly? check. Character growth? check. Pivotal role in shaping the main character's attitude? check. It's a pretty good formula for a side character but it was her one of a kind rejection that made Re-zero notorious (or popular). I.e., she rejects Subaru first -> confesses -> gets rejected -> Both Subaru and Rem laugh it out. But her goal was to nudge the character back to the right track. Another thing the author plays with is that he mirrors the Subaru x Emilia relation through Rem x Subaru. One side is 'crazy' about the other and would do just about anything for the other.
I mean, I'd say that the show had a balanced approach on many fronts knowing that it was only an advertisement for the light novel. Even I felt the show was lacking on many areas, but that's because season 1 is just a setup for all that is to come later. The bit about Elsa you speak of, becomes more fleshed out. The other elements like giving context to all the other characters and the world-building elements that kind of lacked, all come into play.
Just finished the anime and also never really got why people think it's good like OP but wow you bring a lot of great points to the table. It doesn't affect my main gripes with the show but it does make me change my perspective about the reasons why certain things were done in the show. Thanks!
KreatorX said: Even I felt the show was lacking on many areas, but that's because season 1 is just a setup for all that is to come later. The bit about Elsa you speak of, becomes more fleshed out. The other elements like giving context to all the other characters and the world-building elements that kind of lacked, all come into play.
Thanks! that was insightful and has refreshed my outlook of the isekai genre and also Re-Zero. You have made me realize that there were subtle character driven elements pivotal in the story which i definitely overlooked and would have appreciated.
Coming to the fact that season 1 is just a setup,perhaps i should have been a bit more clear in my post.
It is quite obvious that it is the case and that the show probably wholly satisfies the audience later on.Most people wouldn't fall in love with just the 'set-up'. Is it because majority of the fans of the anime version were also light novel readers? Is the presence of an excessive amount of Isekai a partial cause for people to fall towards Re-zero?How probable is it to expect a relatively new isekai watcher(Like myself) to give a 9 or10 to Re-zero after watching only season 1 of the anime version(a.k.a 'the setup')?Am i correct in assuming that the majority of Re-zero fans are those who already watched a lot of generic isekai series and embrace Re-zero as a welcome change?
Glad to be of help
Most people wouldn't fall in love with just the 'set-up'. Is it because majority of the fans of the anime version were also light novel readers
There is an overwhelming number of fans who haven't touched the light novels. Speaking for myself, I dived into the light novels (web novel rather) sometime last Christmas and read a good portion of what is to come before I decided to put it on hold, since I'd rather watch this animated instead. The music and art enhanced the experience much more that what I got from reading the novels. Thus, I would assume there are plenty of others like me who think this way ( throwing a wild guess here ).
Is the presence of an excessive amount of Isekai a partial cause for people to fall towards Re-zero?
Actually, isekai is one of the least excessive subgenres out there as compared to the hordes of mecha/harem/ecchi/shounen. However, the one thing that is common in all is that they all play into the wish-fulfillment theme too eagerly.
Am i correct in assuming that the majority of Re-zero fans are those who already watched a lot of generic isekai series and embrace Re-zero as a welcome change?
In this case, I would say that I do not belong to the majority since I have a strong aversion to anything that reeks of harem/polygamy, a trait that a good chunk of isekai-themed works carry with them. Moreover, plenty of them contain that one loser like fellow who suddenly finds himself to be one of the most powerful entities in the new world. Who then proceeds to dawdle around, finding himself the center of attraction of every chick you can imagine, to one-shotting baddies with huge powerups. Wish-fulfillment/escapism, you can join the dots.
And yes, what you said is a more plausible assumption. For me, it was a welcome change as there happened to be a bunch of pretty girls who all minded their own damn business, plus, the series didn't appear to be a harem. xD
How probable is it to expect a relatively new isekai watcher(Like myself) to give a 9 or10 to Re-zero after watching only season 1 of the anime version(a.k.a 'the setup')
I'd call myself a relatively new isekai watcher like you because I eagerly avoid anything that resembles the above. I gave Re-zero a 9 and had watched it for the first time almost exactly a year ago, then rewatched it number of times since I kept finding new tidbits scattered here and there. There's quite some interesting scenes in the anime which I had not picked up in the first watch.
Anyhow, my reasons for really liking this series was because Subaru has a very strong/uncanny familiarity to my old teenage self. I casually picked up Re-zero on a whim last year since I was told by a friend that there was no harem in this isekai-fantasy anime. Now within the first few minutes, I see this dude with dead fish-eyes, bored-with-normal/teenager-life kind of look. The next moment I see him readily/happily brightening up to the idea that he finds himself in a new world. Conventional reaction would have been that of shock/fear and bewilderment. Laughing my ass off, I immediately knew he was going to be THAT guy (former self). Suffice to say, his behaviour pattern didn't disappoint me because of the same reasons.
I would once again presume there must be others like me who had some unhealthy escapist tendencies at one point of their lives before they grew out of it. Or if they understood and appreciated the message of how being 'slothful' can ruin any effort you decide to make.
Hence, they would have rated this highly. Perhaps you could call it a cathartic experience of seeing your past self grow, through Subaru getting his head out of the gutter. Of-course, this isn't to say that I can completely self-insert myself into this Subaru. I'm just able to for now. The author has full control on how he shapes up Subaru by the end. Re-zero does have an MC that is hard to reason with at times. It's both a positive/negative I think. I don't have a fair idea on the probability others having issues that are related to day-dreaming hard about escapism, but it would boil down to how much you have appreciated the general message all over. It's not the most unique one-of-a-kind messages out there, but the way it was delivered is what makes it unique among fantasy works.
The setup is lacking in several areas as well but it appears to me that most of the focus went into giving the audience a full technical report on who Subaru as a person would be. As a side note, there will be 11 total story arcs as planned by the author from start to conclusion. He appears to be penning down the 6th Arc, and he helped direct the anime adaptation, which covers Arcs 1,2 and roughly 95% of Arc 3.
@KreatorX Thanks so much for appeasing my curiosity. I can safely say that all my questions have been answered and I will rewatch season 1 before looking forward to season 2.Your perspective has been invaluable to me.
For all the reasons these lovely people has said but also from my point of view its music.... the ost, but also openings and endings are marvelous and for me music its the main factor of judging in every anime ^-^
Ushiromiya Battler, right now, on this island, no one exists except for you. You're the only one alive in this island. However I'm here right now, and i'm about to kill you. Who... am I?
Part of the reason is that a certain beast-hunting mission towards the end of the season is the most amazing battle I have ever seen in an anime. I really like how the third arc turned out in general.
It's popular because many people myself included find it enjoyable, engaging and entertaining, and the same is true for other popular things as well.
If you don't like it that is FINE I just think that it would be far better and more productive to watch something else that you may like , rather then making bait tread like these that don't contribute or encourage discussion.
Xstasy said: It's popular because many people myself included find it enjoyable, engaging and entertaining, and the same is true for other popular things as well.
Well, you don't say.All I did was ask fans to elaborate on why they found it enjoyable,engaging and entertaining.Is it a crime?
If you don't like it that is FINE I just think that it would be far better and more productive to watch something else that you may like , rather then making bait tread like these that don't contribute or encourage discussion.
Huh? Did you even read all the posts?
I basically just asked fans why they liked it.What is wrong with trying to understand other's perspective?
I understand that there are these type of posts scattered everywhere and most of them are 'baits' or of the negative kind.
But, this thread encouraged discussion and KreatorX was able to satisfactorily clarify what i was looking for.
There is already enough negativity in the community as it is.Could you atleast read all the posts before blatantly assuming anything and creating more misunderstanding.
Once again, read all the posts.There is only healthy discussion and what's more is that this thread has actually contributed to the positive outlook of Re-Zero.
You know I was looking for people like KreatorX to have a long healthy discussion but why do people like you butt in with the wrong assumptions?It is not just this thread,so many places people just throw down provocative one-liners without understanding the context and just end up creating bigger messes.
If I did do something wrong, feel free to criticize me and use a wall of text to clearly show that.But simply saying 'Don't post bait threads' is not at all helpful.
If you don't like it that is FINE I just think that it would be far better and more productive to watch something else that you may like , rather then making bait tread like these that don't contribute or encourage discussion.
WTF?! Did you not read what OP post in the first place? And this thread definitely contribute or encourage discussion. Just look at KreatorX and Emilian posts.
Well I just finished watching it and I have to say I found it kinda "poetic" the way the anime is...
You know, we see Subaru at the beginning thinking in his new life as a videogame and then falling in love with Emilia and do anything to not only save her but also save their friends, He is not the ordinary OP MC with a secret power, he is just a normal guy with nothing special, but being a good person and never give up is what make him standing out from the others MCs, then we see the most human part of Subaru (Ep 15) we're he is really mentally affected to the point of being mentally insane, he was angry, sad, confused, vengeful, and all of that feelings was messing with his mind, also we have this connection between Subaru and Rem that is like they confessed at each other but they laugh about it at the end
So I'm just trying to explain my point of view... I'm not too good explaining myself xD so if you have anything too add feel free to do it I will be really happy...
Xstasy said: It's popular because many people myself included find it enjoyable, engaging and entertaining, and the same is true for other popular things as well.
If you don't like it that is FINE I just think that it would be far better and more productive to watch something else that you may like , rather then making bait tread like these that don't contribute or encourage discussion.
comments like this absolutely scream "i'm insecure about my tastes"
op is literally just asking why you like the show
Did you really just necroed a 5 month old thread just to post that LoL?
All the threads that start with "Why is X Popular" are pointless they essentially boil down to Why do people like things that I don't.
1) It had a unique theme that I've never seen in any anime before ( Revive from a checkpoint) It looks like someone who's playing a game on Insane mode where you can barely save your game, 1 silly mistake and you've to redo everything again + knowing the mistake you did and how to avoid it.
2) First time to see a thriller Isekai, every other isekai u can find MCs having good times, HECK, even these who start with a bad start, they end up having a good life (Like in Tate no Yuusha). But here, Subaru just suffers 24/7.
I don't get why it's popular, I just finished watching it, the idea of the character respawning was interesting at first, but soon it got repetitive boring and overused. At one point it got so convoluted and repetitive, I felt like dropping it. Around episode 21, I started fast-forwarding as I just wanted to get it over with.
If this ever gets more seasons, I'm not watching them.
Kaiser-chan said: Because it's slightly different than other isekai where the MC is god and gets every chick without trying.
Also it's edgy.
If that's a reason for an anime to be popular nowadays, animes have hit a new low.
Man, skip the long explanation of comments above.
Just think back to the meme that explained its popularity. IT'S THE MEME.
It's the Waifu War
This series reintroduced the war that split the community.
Thus, GoToubun No Hanayome gain its popularity the same way. Same meme xD
xkazutox said: Man, skip the long explanation of comments above.
Just think back to the meme that explained its popularity. IT'S THE MEME.
It's the Waifu War
This series reintroduced the war that split the community.
Thus, GoToubun No Hanayome gain its popularity the same way. Same meme xD
Hahaha... good one but like with every other war conflict the reasons behind it are silly I mean, I could imagine someone to side with kuroneko if I try hard, but Onodera? Ichigo?? That makes less sense than terrorism.
One of the worst series I've ever seen. The plot is completely ridiculous and the main character the most retarded in anime history. I guess it's success is due to that stupid dispute among kids over who is best girl, Rem or Emilia; when every normal person knows that Senjougahara is the only waifu.
KR_P said: I'm curious if anyone who liked Re:Zero had watched isekai like Gimgar (which came out the same year) or Log Horizon (came out a few years before)?
ye i did all are great but i think grimgar is a bit lower still i loved it
KreatorX said: But he easily ran into trouble given his behaviour (even though his behaviour wasn't that extreme in the anime).
It couldn't possibly be worse than what was shown in episode 13, c-couldn't it?
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xkazutox said: Man, skip the long explanation of comments above.
Just think back to the meme that explained its popularity. IT'S THE MEME.
It's the Waifu War
This series reintroduced the war that split the community.
Thus, GoToubun No Hanayome gain its popularity the same way. Same meme xD
Hinata > Sakura
Dying > These two hoes
Onodera > Life itself!
Emilia > Level 3 skin cancer > Suffering more than Guts, Homura and Jesus > Remu
Zero Two > Beachigo!
xkazutox said: Man, skip the long explanation of comments above.
Just think back to the meme that explained its popularity. IT'S THE MEME.
It's the Waifu War
This series reintroduced the war that split the community.
Thus, GoToubun No Hanayome gain its popularity the same way. Same meme xD
Hinata > Sakura
Dying > These two hoes
Onodera > Life itself!
Emilia > Level 3 skin cancer > Suffering more than Guts, Homura and Jesus > Remu
Zero Two > Beachigo!
don't be a fool my boy, don't let political correctness wash ur brain too. You can still think for yourself if you try to.
As a romance narrative Oreimo mop the floor with any of the other anime in the funny meme