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Modernoir said: keragamming said: Oh yes, don't get me wrong as a manga reader and seeing what is happening in the long run, I can see why he made Armin survive. But that still doesn't mean I like the way how he survived, it just took me out of my suspension of disbelief and I just didn't like how the way it was done, the same goes for how Reiner survive as well. Those were always my gripe when it comes to this arc. I criticize these chapters back when the chapter was release I guess you weren't aware of it. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1530501 Honestly that's something I can respect since in the manga I felt more shocked by his survival too. I at least think in the anime it seems far more plausible (people have survived extreme burns before, my visualization was that he made a much harder impact onto the roof but the anime made it seem more like his fall was lessened by the overwhelming amounts of air produced by the CT). I'd love to go more into it but it's spoiler territory, but Armin surviving is a genuinely good thing for the story because of what it sets up in the future. Just food for thought. I agree totally with all of that, its just that I have a mix feeling with this episode. |
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| hahahahahahaah snk never ceases to shock me with its stupidity and plot armors |
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Modernoir said: IdleSolution said: hahahahahahaah snk never ceases to shock me with its stupidity and plot armors What stupidity/plot armor? It isn't THAT far fetched that Armin survived, he didn't burn his lungs out by breathing the air in and his fall was lessened by the steam as he descended. It's entirely plausible that he could've survived to the extent of just being able to take the serum. Even then, Erwin got a proper death too so it's not like all was robbed. Plus you can't just say it's instantly stupid, have you considered that the story actually isn't over and that more will come from these developments? Don't waste your time on @IdleSolution he doesn't like the series, he doesn't type anything good when it comes to snk, its best you ignore. |
Modernoir said: IdleSolution said: hahahahahahaah snk never ceases to shock me with its stupidity and plot armors What stupidity/plot armor? It isn't THAT far fetched that Armin survived, he didn't burn his lungs out by breathing the air in and his fall was lessened by the steam as he descended. It's entirely plausible that he could've survived to the extent of just being able to take the serum. Even then, Erwin got a proper death too so it's not like all was robbed. Plus you can't just say it's instantly stupid, have you considered that the story actually isn't over and that more will come from these developments? I wouldn't bother with IdleSolution though. His mind is made about SnK. |
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| Saw the episode raw because i couldnt wait anymore for proper subs lol. I.. somehow think i prefer this part in the manga over the anime but i cant really explain exactly why, imo it felt a bit dull in certain parts but maybe thats because i already knew what was going to happen, idk really. People are going to hate on EMA a lot because of this, i can already feel. To this day even some manga readers are pissed about how they acted during this situation, but in all honesty it was a really human thing to do. Eren and Mikasa didnt want to see their friend die and im pretty sure him being all burnt really made them even more desperate.. ahh man, this arc is just sad. I'm really looking foward to the basement, chapters 86-90 are one of my favorites in the manga and i cant wait to see them animated! DupeusT31 said: The only thing I didn't like in the ep is that they didn't include Reiner crying when realizing Bertolt was gonna die. Same. I was hoping they'd keep that part but instead we just got a shot of reiner lying in top of the wall zoomed out.... |
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| ok i don't think there was a single bit of this episode i didn't like - it was everything i could have asked for in a serumbowl adaptation and more. this was incredible. the VAs were especially good, and i felt every single emotion. now i know there's gonna be criticism from anime-onlies and manga readers alike on who should have gotten the serum - and i'm not gonna really go into it - but hear me out: erwin's goal in joining the survey corps wasn't to save humanity; it was to prove his father's theory correct. armin's goal went way beyond that: he dreamt of seeing the ocean and beyond. erwin made up his mind and gave his life in the suicide charge with the rest of the new recruits in order to buy time for eren - he had an honorable death. giving him the injection would have gone against his final decision and put him back into hell. levi's choice was justified. i actually really liked the seemingly lack of music (or at least the opening) in this episode. there's so much emotion throughout that i feel like putting music into the mix would have kinda killed the vibe. it just didn't seem right. oh FUCK YES! we're finally at the basement! i can't wait to see anime-onlie's reactions to the reveal... |
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Modernoir said: keragamming said: Those plot armor/fake outs is my main gripe in this arc when I was reading the manga, when Armin supposedly died in the manga, I and many also thought he was dead. Seeing anime only praising the series last episode knowing what was to come next episode, apart of me really wish Armin would've stayed dead because it would have really hit home that anyone can die in the series. Thankfully all this drama was done in one episode, but really it depends on how anime only will view this, on the other hand Armin survive, but for the cost of that Erwin and Bertholdt is dead and the ending scene was beautiful. This is why I said this episode and the next one will make or break this season. So I'm patiently waiting for anime only reaction to this episode. I'm genuinely surprised you of all people think that way. I mean, I can sort of understand why but surely since you're up to date with the manga you can at least start to see why it makes perfect sense for Armin to have survived this ordeal? And that is a well cooked true. I'm not here to discuss whether or not Armin should die falling from 50 meters with quiet badly burns (I'm still believe that it's possible considering situations in real life that also were submitted here and plenty of other, unexplained stuff) but I believe that it's a perfect executed plot looking what is happening next in manga (I mean it's planed very well and it's not just a dumb "main character – he needs to live" stuff). I personally would be more pissed if Isayama resurrected commander Erwin knowing, he was a badass character almost without any flaw and dyingproof ability (guys, his arm was chewed like a fucking bubblegum by Titan and he was still able to command and retrieved Even from Berthold...) |
Modernoir said: keragamming said: Oh yes, don't get me wrong as a manga reader and seeing what is happening in the long run, I can see why he made Armin survive. But that still doesn't mean I like the way how he survived, it just took me out of my suspension of disbelief and I just didn't like how the way it was done, the same goes for how Reiner survive as well. Those were always my gripe when it comes to this arc. I criticize these chapters back when the chapter was release I guess you weren't aware of it. https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1530501 Honestly that's something I can respect since in the manga I felt more shocked by his survival too. I at least think in the anime it seems far more plausible (people have survived extreme burns before, my visualization was that he made a much harder impact onto the roof but the anime made it seem more like his fall was lessened by the overwhelming amounts of air produced by the CT). I'd love to go more into it but it's spoiler territory, but Armin surviving is a genuinely good thing for the story because of what it sets up in the future. Just food for thought. -anime only here- Idk what happens, but I dont think you can outright say if its good or bad, I mean we will never know how the story wouldve been if Erwin survived, so there is nothing to compare it to |
Modernoir said: Kursei said: And that is a well cooked true. I'm not here to discuss whether or not Armin should die falling from 50 meters with quiet badly burns (I'm still believe that it's possible considering situations in real life that also were submitted here and plenty of other, unexplained stuff) but I believe that it's a perfect executed plot looking what is happening next in manga (I mean it's planed very well and it's not just a dumb "main character – he needs to live" stuff). I personally would be more pissed if Isayama resurrected commander Erwin knowing, he was a badass character almost without any flaw and dyingproof ability (guys, his arm was chewed like a fucking bubblegum by Titan and he was still able to command and retrieved Even from Berthold...) Completely agree here. I think the characters already gave more than enough reason to justify why Armin should've got the serum, but can you imagine for a moment how fucked up it would be if Erwin got the serum instead? Not only did he dedicate himself to giving his life to lead the final charge, but if he actually lived and saw the basement he'd True. I couldn't imagine reasonable continuation for his character too knowing that his dream was to only see the truth contained in Erwin's father basement. And it was the most merciful thing that could happen for Erwin after everything he did and I'm glad that we saw this as a reason to his death. About Mikasa and Eren's reasoning. Guys, It's a trio of best friends. There still young people living in a fucking cruel world. Armin grandfather died with miserable death by rushing on Titans with a fucking fork. Mikasa's mother and father died without actually any good reason and Eren, oh boy Eren besides him looking how a Titan is tearing apart his mother he learned that he ate his own father. There is nothing left for them, they actually live only for themself. and now, they could lost the most precious thing for them – Armin. Of course they could act without reasoning (but still managed to show pros and cons of using serum on him) |
KurseiJun 2, 2019 2:37 PM
Weebover9000 said: Lel0uchZer0 said: I don't care. She is a survey corp... she has to understand what she is into. Jean is 16 as well and understood fast what they need to do (so did conny ffs) I am sorry that i am harsh but i can't stand character that don't show one bit of pragmatism. My favourite character is lelouch so yeah... Jean still hesitated and caused hange to not kill reiner, so why are you not bashing on him and only mikasa? In real life situation It could happen too. We are humans and sometimes we act without any reason to it. I love how Mikasa acted seeing how strong and disciplined she is. Yeah, Jean was right and still, with every action there is a price. |
| Well, bye, bye Erwin, you were my favourite character, but you already fought enough, may your soul rest in peace ;_; I wish he could had at least reached to the basement before dying, but that would had been way too good to happen. Also Bertolt died like a little bitch, kinda disappointed with that, considering Reiner at least looked like he acepted he was going to die when Hanji was about to decapitate him. The dude even thought his former comrades (whom he clearly intended to kill a few moments ago) were going to rescue him, lmao. I don't know,s eeing the very first antagonist of the series to die in such way, like if he was just a fodder character... was pretty weird. |
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Sadly we won't hear Erwin saying this anymore: |
StephanovJun 2, 2019 2:56 PM
Weebover9000 said: Pretty much, lmao. I get that the message was that Bertolt was no different from all those poor bastards who were crying when they were eaten by the Titans, but after such display of cold blood and acceptance in the previous episodes, it felt jarring as heck.Illyricus said: Well, bye, bye Erwin, you were my favourite character, but you already fought enough, may your soul rest in peace ;_; I wish he could had at least reached to the basement before dying, but that would had been way too good to happen. Also Bertolt died like a little bitch, kinda disappointed with that, considering Reiner at least looked like he acepted he was going to die when Hanji was about to decapitate him. The dude even thought his former comrades (whom he clearly intended to kill a few moments ago) were going to rescue him, lmao. I don't know,s eeing the very first antagonist of the series to die in such way, like if he was just a fodder character... was pretty weird. Bert "I can accept any outcome that happens" Bert being eaten by armin "REEEEEEEINNNNNNERRRRRR!" |
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Illyricus said: Weebover9000 said: Pretty much, lmao. I get that the message was that Bertolt was no different from all those poor bastards who were crying when they were eaten by the Titans, but after such display of cold blood and acceptance in the previous episodes, it felt jarring as heck.Bert "I can accept any outcome that happens" Bert being eaten by armin "REEEEEEEINNNNNNERRRRRR!" Bertholdlt isn't like Erwin who can face death head on, its as simple as that. Getting eaten alive is one of the scariest way to go and I think most will agree with me on that. At the end of the day he is human after all. That seems like a natural reaction. |
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